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craig mc
Aug 21, 2009, 06:06 AM
Is it a crime for a group of people to lie and decieve a person with the intent of destroying someone's life.

artlady
Aug 21, 2009, 06:17 AM
Yes it is a crime.Criminal Conspiracy.

craig mc
Aug 21, 2009, 06:23 AM
Say these people played part in a deception over the space of a year and half, backing up the lies of another person so to make the other believe what ever was being said was the truth that would be a criminal act?

twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2009, 08:28 AM
Yes it would be a criminal act. Exactly what have these folks been doing to the victim?

JudyKayTee
Aug 22, 2009, 03:27 PM
Need more information about exactly what is going on, if you know the ID of the parties.

craig mc
Aug 23, 2009, 06:16 PM
Basically id been involved with this woman for the last year and half. And I got to know her brother and a person she claimed to work with who I recently found out was really her cousin. Anyway at the time I met her she claimed to be carrying twins to her ex boyfriend who she said had left her and she wanted nothing more to do with him. She approaches me and starts hounding me about my personal life. She keeps on until I eventually crack and open myself up to her and we start getting closer. Few months later she tells me she lost her twins in a car accident not only did she tell me this but every one we know which I just found out was a lie and the babies never existed. This is where the story gets interesting I start to get to know her brother and cousin who also continue to say she had lost babies. Me and her get to the point where we decide to take things further and meet up and we did so in feb this year, we slept together and I left to go home. Few weeks later she goes into hospital where she tells me she could have womb cancer and may not be able to have babies all this was backed up by her brother and cousin. Months go by and not a word of cancer is mentioned. She said the hospital gave her a course of hormone treatment to see if that could clear up her womb problem, we start to make plans to have a baby when she was due to come in August but needed her treatment to finish and see how her womb was. The week before she was due to finish her reatment she told me she had lost a baby beloging to me shortly after I had left in February and she had told no one about it. A week later she finishes her treatment and goes for a check up where the doctors noticed something wasn't right more tests were needed to make sure. 2 days later she tells me she's pregnant with my baby and that the baby was not in the right place in her womb and the hormone treatment had slowed down its growth also stopping her womb from expelling it from her body. Im overjoyed at this news and start to make plans to be there for when she's due to give birth. The day after she tells her parents she's having my baby who then proceed to call her ex boyfried and his parents to put pressure on her to marry him or so I was led to believe and she says she wants to escape from them as she didn't want to marry him and it was my child. She lets me choose a anemf or the baby still claiming I was the father calling me dad telling me she was going to marry me etc. Her brother and cousin say there backing me up saying they don't want her to marry him and they don't like him. She continualy states I'm the father watching as o look for things to get the baby for when he's born. Then she goes into hospital because she had bled I hear nothing for 2 days from anyone so I text and finally get an answer and she says the baby is in a bad situation and may not make it they needed more tests to find out. 3 days pass with no word until I recoeve a text from either her brother or cousin telling me they had to remove the baby or she could loose her life and the child was not strong enuff to survive in an incubator. A week goes by with yet again no contact I send text after text and call any amount of times until she texts me saying that the pain was too much to share with me and she needed time to deal with I ad she would call me when she felt better. One more week passes and she logs onto msn with her ex boyfriend and tels me that the baby had not died and it wasn't mine and they would marry this September. She let me mourn for that child for 2 weeks knowing that I would be devastated at losing the baby she showed no remorse at all instead laughing and joking with him while rubbing the baby in my face telling me how happy they were going to be

Sory for the wall of text but you asked for more info and there's a lot more to the story than what I've put down here the botom line is her and the other 2 lied to me over the course of the last year and half for reasons I have no idea but its caused me an unmeasureable amount of pain and depressioin

artlady
Aug 23, 2009, 06:33 PM
The only thing I think (NOT A LAWYER) is that you might be able to pursue a civil case for emotional distress.

I highly doubt it would make any difference.People are allowed to be users and jerks according to the law.

Sadly,there is no moral court.

See it as the learning experience it is.

craig mc
Aug 23, 2009, 06:37 PM
I'm currently pusuing a civil case and I have a lot of chat logs with the people in question admitting to the deception I think the mian sticking point is proving the damages which ill have soon enuff from my doctor and councilor

JudyKayTee
Aug 24, 2009, 05:58 AM
im currently pusuing a civil case and i have alot of chat logs with the people in question admitting to the deception i think the mian sticking point is proving the damages which ill have soon enuff from my doctor and councilor



Judging from everyone's behavior here:

(1) You were taken by these people - for whatever reason - more than once;

(2) They can't possibly have anything with which to pay you even if you win.

I do notice in your narrative that you blame other people and circumstances for some of your bad decisions. That is not going to help your case.

I think it's a lost cause. Agreed you were taken advantage of (again, for whatever reason) but I see this as a moral problem, not a legal problem, which no Attorney is going to want to touch.

The practical side of me says that it will cost you time and money upfront to pursue this and even if you win, as I said, there is no money to pay you a Judgment.

Learn from this and move on.

stevetcg
Aug 24, 2009, 06:42 AM
I have no more greenies to give Judy, but I concur. There doesn't appear to be anything illegal in your post.

Sorry for what you went through, but face it,. some people are just bad. Looks like you found one or a few.

And honestly, it might just be one. Its possible that others were deceived also.