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tanyaa
Aug 20, 2009, 06:02 AM
I've different types of shades of skin, whole over my body... does anybody ve this problem?
I know its natural to ve different shdes in different areas bt I think I've unusual diffrence in some of the part of my skin
So I want know about some product which is helpful to light the specific areas of skin.im aware of some products, such as pills ,which works whole over body. Bt I want to know about something else, which can be use in certain areas and which ll be worthful to ve big diffrence:)..

imgorgeous
Aug 20, 2009, 12:51 PM
Tanya ,

Asians, South Americans and black people ALL have the same problem.. No matter how fair you are.. certain parts of the body especially near the genitalia are darker..

You are not alone.. Rest assured !

Golden_Girl
Aug 20, 2009, 08:41 PM
Lol... if you are able to tan really well then most likely you will not have even skin. Our skin is much lighter when we are younger, but then being outside so much especially not using sunblock will cause this. If the rest of me was as light as other lighter areas of my body then I would be near yellow... or shall I say golden.

tanyaa
Aug 22, 2009, 03:32 AM
Thanks to imgorgeous and golden girl:)
Bt I told before, I know its natural to ve different shades.bt I've usual diffrence,n its our family problem:(.
Like my belly, back side is much darker... n for my dreassing style those part also hides frm the sun too... so its nt usual prob nt the reasn of the sun..
So I want a solution badly:(

imgorgeous
Aug 22, 2009, 03:56 AM
tanyaa - honestly I wouldn't know what to recommend to you to get you to even out...

Because I am currently using monobenzone and its not evening nothing..! Not working for me


I was using benzyl before and it did not work


Hydroquinone apparently gives you nice lightening albeit temporary, however, it does not even out the skin patterns as per peoples inputs...

You just have to start on some effective lightening agents and carry on.. IN due course of time I believe something may help... Just like us it's the trial and error method babes... Whatever works for you is a blessing What doesn't needs to be replace immediately /

Golden_Girl
Aug 22, 2009, 06:49 PM
thnx to imgorgeous n golden girl:)
bt i told before, i kno its natural to ve diffrent shades.bt ive usual diffrence,n its our family problem:(.
like my belly, back side is much darker... n for my dreassing style those part also hides frm the sun too...so its nt usual prob nt the reasn of the sun..
so i want a solution badly:(

Yeah me too, for some reasons those area of the body becomes darker as well which is also common for people who have more melanin. I know that the skin is thicker there so I'm unsure if that has anything to do with it. I would like to lighten my whole body evenly, but unsure what will do this as I am searching too.

tanyaa
Aug 22, 2009, 10:26 PM
Thnk you both... once again:)
You I need a permanent change... cz I'm fade upp! I used some whitening creams.. bt it didn't work:(
Very recently I heard of laser permanent lightening treatments bt its very coastly and I heard its nt work that well.. dnt know how truth is that..
Actually I'm looking for a nutrial good dermatologist.. bt one of a skin specialist discourge me be 4 :( so I'm afraid how can I found a good nutrial lightening expert :(
I'm really confused and sad:(
Though thanks 1ce again imgorgeous and golden girl:D

Golden_Girl
Aug 23, 2009, 12:20 PM
I briefly heard of laser permanent lightening recently. A few months back I had called many dermatologists about skin lightening treatments, creams, or something that will help lighten. But, they all had discouraged me as well and also said that they have nothing that will do that. So, I'm thinking there are spas that can help achieve overall lightening? I will have to continue searching for more info on it.

tanyaa
Aug 23, 2009, 09:42 PM
Thnx:)golden girl
.. I was thinking to meet with a dermatologist:S.. now I think I shouldn t meet.. right?:S.. as you said many ve discouraged you already:(..
So I should start smthning of my own:S.. im really confused..
Ll u tell about laser treatment what you know about this treatment so far...
Thnx:)

Golden_Girl
Aug 24, 2009, 06:02 PM
I would see the dermatologist if I were you and see what they have to say. All Derms aren't the same and may assist you with your goal. Because they definitely know what can make you lighter, you just have to find a way of encouraging them to spit out that information.

tanyaa
Aug 25, 2009, 12:24 AM
OK ill do that.thnx:)

B00tyfu7
Aug 27, 2009, 04:02 AM
Could anyone tell me of any RELIABLE monobenzone and/or hydroquionine retailers please?

Golden_Girl
Aug 27, 2009, 04:56 PM
B00tyfu7, I have read many good things with the Obagi brand which contains Hq 4%, I'm sure there are other good brands that also contain Hq or if you are interested in formulating your own Hq or mono? I do not know of any reputable retailers as I do not use Hq or Mono. But, some of the other members will be more knowledgeable in those areas, as I am still learning about Hq.

neptuno
Aug 27, 2009, 05:05 PM
Could anyone tell me of any RELIABLE monobenzone and/or hydroquionine retailers please?

Check this out:

https://obagi-onlyobagi.3dcartstores.com/


5 stars retailer.

Source: my own experience:D

tanyaa
Sep 8, 2009, 11:14 PM
I would go ahead and see the dermatologist if I were you and see what they have to say. All Derms arent the same and may assist you with your goal. Because they definately know what can make you lighter, you just have to find a way of encouraging them to spit out that information.

I meet with a dermatologist few days back.. bt again.. no result... he discourage me again and said stop browsing this sort of things... now I don't know what to do:(

I really wanted to start and proced my lightening treatment under a dermatologist.. bt again I'm failed.. :( bt I want to start my lightening treatment as soon as possible... dont know what to do.. im becomeming deepressed:(

MAHARANI
Sep 9, 2009, 01:40 PM
tanyaa,

Just curious to know where you are living. I live in the uk and feel that here, skin lightening is not as progressive as in the US, where maybe you would meet a more sympathetic dermatologist. I may be wrong. I would be interested to know.

MAHARANI
Sep 9, 2009, 01:42 PM
I would love to be located in the far east in places like Japan etc, where skin lightening is not such a dirty word.

Even in india, it has a massive market demand for this.

Golden_Girl
Sep 9, 2009, 03:26 PM
I agree Maharani, in the far east like Japan their would be ample amounts of services in this area, and I say more safe alternatives as well. There lightening there is like our tanning here in the States. I believe States such as California and maybe even New York has more services in this area. I had called around last summer to several good dermatologists in my area and they all said they did not know of any way to lighten, they did mention one crème that I think contained maybe 2-4% Hq. But it wasn't Obagi or the likes.

Thanks Neptuno for the link! I will definitely be checking it out today :)

Tanyaa, sorry that your Derm. Discouraged you, I guess one of the reasons could be that he was trying to look out for your best interests? But, he could have at least recomened 4% Hq and 0.025% Tretinoin as some derms can prescribe this but maybe mainly for sun spots, acne, and the like instead of a complete skin lightener. Have you considered attempting to cound your own active lighteners along with a good base crème? This is a good option to also consider as I think I will be giing it a try this fall once I purchase the equipment needed. I am also considering trying a large bottle of the 55h+ Cristalline Glycerine as Brown Deceit has had great success with this and it is free of hq, steroids, and mercury. Also, the Fair and White Gel Crème Exclusive Whitenizer for the face which many people say it gives great results (but does contain Hq). And also maybe Likas papaya soap since I heard so many good things about it. I am unsure about the rest of the Fair & White products if they work or not.

Also we can keep in mind that spas also have services to help lighten the skin, though I am unsure how well it works on brown skin but would be something to consider if your willing to pay more cash for it.

tanyaa
Sep 9, 2009, 08:44 PM
I agree Maharani, in the far east like Japan their would be ample amounts of services in this area, and I say more safe alternatives as well. There lightening there is like our tanning here in the States. I believe States such as California and maybe even New York has more services in this area. I had called around last summer to several good dermatologists in my area and they all said they did not know of any way to lighten, they did mention one creme that I think contained maybe 2-4% Hq. But it wasnt Obagi or the likes.

Thanks Neptuno for the link! I will definitely be checking it out today :)

Tanyaa, sorry that your Derm. discouraged you, I guess one of the reasons could be that he was trying to look out for your best interests? But, he could of at least recomened 4% Hq and 0.025% Tretinoin as some derms can prescribe this but maybe mainly for sun spots, acne, and the like instead of a complete skin lightener. Have you considered attempting to cound your own active lighteners along with a good base creme? This is a good option to also consider as I think I will be giing it a try this fall once I purchase the equipment needed. I am also considering trying a large bottle of the 55h+ Cristalline Glycerine as Brown Deceit has had great success with this and it is free of hq, steroids, and mercury. Also, the Fair and White Gel Creme Exclusive Whitenizer for the face which many people say it gives great results (but does contain Hq). And also maybe Likas papaya soap since I heard so many good things about it. I am unsure about the rest of the Fair & White products if they work or not.

Also we can keep in mind that spas also have services to help lighten the skin, though I am unsure how well it works on brown skin but would be something to consider if your willing to pay more cash for it.

Maharani I'm from bangladesh
Thanks again golden girl.. ive tried so many lightening cream before which wasent permanent and that was specially for face.. bt I want something permanent and wich is good for whole body.. ya I also don't know why my dermatologist did that act... I feel the reasn may be for the side effects.. bt I try to convince him that I'm aware of the side effects.. still... bt he just said stop browsing this kind of stufz online.. :(
Now I feel ill use 3-5%monocream.. bt I'm bit frightend about using on my own... I wanted to precede my treatment under a expert... dont know what to do:S...
Here is sooo many prob... there is no avaiable shops to find mono cream.. here s is hard to pay online... im not getting any help from expert.. dnt know what to do:(

MAHARANI
Sep 10, 2009, 01:09 PM
And it's good that you were trying to go down the safe option route, by consulting an expert. It's a shame that he did not understand and just turned you away basically.

Did he charge you for the consultation? It may be that you have to try a different derm. You may find a more sympathetic one. Otherwise, it just means doing your own research and trial and error with products.


I personally have found forums like this really helpful in terms of discussing what works and what doesn't and have saved time and money by avoiding harmful and useless items. Hopefully you will have the same experience.

MAHARANI
Sep 10, 2009, 01:12 PM
tanyaa,

In my opinion I would think very carefully about the mono. Please read up on it as much as possible. In my opinion, unless you are white, it would be the very last resort. And as you say you are form Bangladesh, I am guessing that you have skin with colour.

Golden_Girl
Sep 10, 2009, 06:45 PM
I agree. With mono, people who already have quite fair skin seems to have less problems that are associated with it is much less obvious. But for browner skin, you'll most likely have to go through the white patches that comes along with it and it could take 1 or more years to completely depig.

What other skin lightening brands did you use? There are other products that you can use and then just maintain 1-3 times weekly once you reach your goal, since our skin is always replacing itself about ever 28 days. You could possibly even try compounding your own lightening formula if you want? Also, possibly call the different dermatologists in your area first and see if they offer to assist before spending the money on the appointment.

tanyaa
Sep 10, 2009, 10:16 PM
Thanks to maharani and golden girl
I ve too mcuh uneven skin tone so I can't really ans about my skin tone lolz.. bt I'm intersted to lighten my darker part (permanently)so I think ill face patches then:(.. bt how much patches produce or how it seems I dn ve ny idea:-S... bt those place I want to whiten (belly, back side)... for my dreaasing style it always hides.so I'm liltle relieved about patches..
Golden girl in our country doctors do not consult anything about treatment before visiting him.. so this the big problem you know:(.. and they are really greedy.. I won't say everybody bt most... n I dn feel I'm lucky enough to find the nice one:(..

Golden_Girl
Sep 11, 2009, 12:35 AM
Well, there are many greedy doctors here in the U.S. too... lol. Here a few picts of how the patches will look:

http://www.indiandermatology.org/gallery/vitiligo/Vitiligo.jpg

http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/Immunology/Students/Spring2003/Leese/Vitiligo.jpg

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/bwthomasap.jpg

http://www.jackson.ch/Anderes/vitiligo2.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/656/vitiligo4nn9.jpg

tanyaa
Sep 11, 2009, 05:57 AM
Oh my god this is horrible! OMG OMG!
Though thanks golden girl!I forgot all my questions!

Golden_Girl
Sep 11, 2009, 07:38 PM
I didn't mean to scare you, but just wanted you to know what will most likely happen if you use it for a long period and if the skin is not already quite fair, because it is a big decision to make. Right now, I would like to find a good semi-permanent regimen which would include maintaining the results.

tanyaa
Sep 11, 2009, 09:48 PM
I didn't mean to scare you, but just wanted you to know what will most likely happen if you use it for a long period of time and if the skin is not already quite fair, because it is a big decision to make. Right now, I would like to find a good semi-permanent regimen which would include maintaining the results.

Thanks a lot... it really helped me to make my decission.. I feel I was crazy to start my treatment with mono.. so what are you using golden girl may I know ?
Thanks a lot for for helping me so far:)

Golden_Girl
Sep 12, 2009, 03:15 PM
Right now I'm using whitederm super skin fading concentrate, whitederm potent skin fading cream, glycolic 10%. I'm trying to be patient but so far no success with this regimen. I didn't have to pay for it since a friend bought them for me and said it worked, but still if it doesn't work that means money wasted.

This is what I'm considering purchasing either all or some:
-55H+ Cristaline Glycerine
-Fair & White Exclusive Whitenizer Gel Crème (contains Hq)
-Likas Papaya Soap
-Hydroquinoine (Hq) 4% along w/ Tretinoin (Retin-A) 0.025%
-or just try formulating my own w/ Alpha-Arbutin and Kojic Acid.

These from what I have researched so far and many people's success that I am considering trying possibly next month if I still see no results, plus they are a decent price enough to lighten the whole body. The product that I had the most success was with the Makari, but it is costly and especially to lighten the whole body would lighten my pockets too much. I am considering mequinol/tretinoin as well, which is supposed to be stronger than Hq but weaker than mono. But it burns the skin and I am unsure if it lightens in spots or evenly.

tanyaa
Sep 12, 2009, 10:42 PM
Right now I'm using whitederm super skin fading concentrate, whitederm potent skin fading cream, glycolic 10%. I'm trying to be patient but so far no success with this regimen. I didn't have to pay for it since a friend bought them for me and said it worked, but still if it doesn't work that means money wasted.

This is what I'm considering purchasing either all or some:
-55H+ Cristaline Glycerine
-Fair & White Exclusive Whitenizer Gel Creme (contains Hq)
-Likas Papaya Soap
-Hydroquinoine (Hq) 4% along w/ Tretinoin (Retin-A) 0.025%
-or just try formulating my own w/ Alpha-Arbutin and Kojic Acid.

These from what I have researched so far and many people's success that I am considering trying possibly next month if I still see no results, plus they are a decent price enough to lighten the whole body. The product that I had the most success was with the Makari, but it is costly and especially to lighten the whole body would lighten my pockets too much. I am considering mequinol/tretinoin as well, which is supposed to be stronger than Hq but weaker than mono. But it burns the skin and I am unsure if it lightens in spots or evenly.
Mequinol/tretinoin
Thanks a lot :) your such a sweetheart.. im also intesrted about mequinol/tretinoin because I read some information about these elements such as little kim used it and some more.. if you manage to get more information about this stuffz please please let me know... bt right now I want to start my treatment.. but I'm confused form which to start.. can you please suggest me something:S

so sexy
Sep 13, 2009, 05:20 AM
OMG, thanks for those pics. I will neva use the Mono

Golden_Girl
Sep 13, 2009, 04:13 PM
No prob Sosexy.

Tanyaa, can you tell me where did you hear about Lil' Kim using mequinol, I'm so curious of what she is using? If I had to choose now I would go with the likas papaya soap, tretinoin (retin-a), 55H+ Cristaline Glycerine 16 oz (I would use for the body and face), and the Fair & White Exclusive Whitenizer Gel Crème (contains Hq) for the face. I really like the Neutrogena spf 85 or 70 sunblock. If this helps to lighten well I would just stick with this and continue my search from there.

.. If I'm able to lighten the face and not the body, then I'll also try the Hq 4% w/ the treitinoin for about 4-6 months only.

This is what I have decided so far, but if I continue to find something better and hear from many their great results on something then I'll post it. I was also trying to read more about MSM/vitamin C lightening, I saw some at the drug store today that was 1,000 mcg... but I'm still unsure if MSM lightens over time.

tanyaa
Sep 13, 2009, 10:00 PM
Thanks again golden girl:) well I read about little kim in this forum may be the question was "what lil kim is using" something like that... most possibly I saw your post there:S so you suppose to know about that..
I don't want to be too fair like vitiligo patient bt I want something permanent though which is not effective to make big difference in lightening.. :S...
All the pics you post its seems like vitiligo patient.. so if one start usuing mono for permanent lightening he'll become like vitiligo patient?I'm not intersted about mono anymore lol.. bt curious about those pics
Golden girl ill try to find what u've mentioned:) thanks.. bt ll you please tell me the list of products you describe from those,which are available in beauty shops and which are in pharmacy? And for which products I need a prescription? Looking for your further help :)...
Thnxx bye:)

sagluva
Sep 14, 2009, 09:56 AM
No prob Sosexy.

Tanyaa, can you tell me where did you hear about Lil' Kim using mequinol, I'm so curious of what she is using? If I had to choose now I would go with the likas papaya soap, tretinoin (retin-a), 55H+ Cristaline Glycerine 16 oz (I would use for the body and face), and the Fair & White Exclusive Whitenizer Gel Creme (contains Hq) for the face. I really like the Neutrogena spf 85 or 70 sunblock. If this helps to lighten well I would just stick with this and continue my search from there.

..If I'm able to lighten the face and not the body, then I'll also try the Hq 4% w/ the treitinoin for about 4-6 months only.

This is what I have decided so far, but if I continue to find something better and hear from many their great results on something then I'll post it. I was also trying to read more about MSM/vitamin C lightening, I saw some at the drug store today that was 1,000 mcg...but I'm still unsure if MSM lightens over time.

I juat purchased the crystalline 55h+ glycerin. I have oily and acne prone skin.. will it cause me to break out if I put it on my face?

so sexy
Sep 14, 2009, 12:01 PM
I juat purchased the crystalline 55h+ glycerin. I have oily and acne prone skin.. will it cause me to break out if i put it on my face?

I too have oily skin and yes the Cristaline is of an oil base but I'm washing with Likas a few times a day, I use an astringent every night, and also a peel facial wash once a week. So far so good no breakouts, it's still early for me but fingers crossed no breakouts with this regimen. I do plan on adding Retin-A too. I also have a Glycolic 35 peel gel that is supposed to be used once a week but I only use this maybe once a month. I think I'll probably start using this the way I should.

Golden_Girl
Sep 14, 2009, 10:19 PM
Tanyaa - I'm trying to think of the thread that mentioned Lil'Kim possibly used mequinol, I must have forgotten. I do remember in some threads here that she possibly used L'Maj (which has a negative reputation), mono, peels,. there could be so many things that she could have used. I remember starting a thread about her a while back trying to figure out what she used and posted some picts of her. Yes, the picts were of vitiligo patients and the conditions of their skin. Vitiligo patients and people who are lightening with mono will have to possibly use it for long periods until they completely depig and there are no more spots. From time to time they may get "brownies" which are little brown spots. I believe you would have to order Likas Papaya Soap, 55H+ Cristaline Glycerine and The Fair & White Exclusive Whitenizer Gel Crème you might can find it in beauty stores where you live but they are also sell it online, I couldn't find these in my area excet for the Fair&White gel. There are some reliable online places that sell these I'm sure but I don't know who, but I have checked a while back and all of these are carried by sellers on Amazon.com, so then you can check the seller's reputation first before purchasing.

Hq 4%Tretinoin I know people buy these online, I can send you the sources that are known to be reliable. Alpha-Arbutin and Kojic Acid you have to buy online as well. I have never tried these products yet, but I usually check first through Amazon.com to see if they carry it.

Sagluva - Much luck with the Cristalline, I'm unsure if it causes breakouts or not as I haven't used it yet. There is another member here who used it with much success and some others that are using it now like So Sexy. I checked out the ingredients and may try it next month.

tanyaa
Sep 15, 2009, 10:57 AM
Thanks again golden girl:).. ur helping me every single day so tousands of thnx:)..
Bt what you think guys there's nothing to light you permanently! I don't mean anything like mono or any product that make one like vitiligo patient!liltle light bt permanent?
OK golden girl so if one use mono for a long time and want to make the fairness permant then he/she will be like vitiligo patient?I mean using mono long period to make permanent light lthen the result will be like vitiligo patient?
And what you suggest the ingrediant and the product to be ligheten one has to maintain it for life time:S

Golden_Girl
Sep 15, 2009, 05:16 PM
Wow, thanks Tanyaa. I wish I knew what actually could make the skin which ever shade we like permanently, but I don't know. Using mono over time will eventually make your skin without pigment and no longer without spots, this is from what I have read from other's experiences and from articles.

I don't like the idea of maintaining either, but I guess it is similar to how people who tan must maintain their darker complexion in some manner. I used to hate the idea of always having to wear sunblock and was dissapointed. But, now I am so used to it and I do not mind. Having to maintain 1-3 times a week may not be so bad once we become used to it overtime, just have to add it to our daily regimen and seen as being no different than brushing teeth, bathe, wash hair, and maintain lightened skin. At least until we find something that is permanent and does not remove all skin pigment. The products that I mentioned earlier are what I'm considering to use, I'm sure there are lots out there and are a decent price to maintain with as I am still seaching to add as much to my list. Ingredients such as alpha-arbutin, kojic acid, mulberry root extract, bearberry leaf extract, sepiwhite, licorice extract, etc are among the most natural and gentle lighteners. vitamins C & A will help to exfoliate and speed up results. Hydroquinone is the last alternative, but should not be abused or used for very long periods as it is cytotoxic. Well, this is all that I know so far.

tanyaa
Sep 17, 2009, 11:38 AM
Thanks for:S? OK.. so using mono over time make a person like vitiligo petient?and you if one use mono on particular place I heard the effect spread all over, is that true?anyway thanks for your help again golden girl:).. bt there's a sad news.. accpet neutrogena I didn't find any suggestive products in our top beauty shop:( though the spf was highest 30:(.. bt today I bought loriel whitenning cream lets see what ll be the effect:S hope for the best:S...
Bt thanks again:)

Golden_Girl
Sep 17, 2009, 06:18 PM
I have never used mono, although there are others here on this board that has. Any product that you apply on the skin will get into the bloodstream. Here are some information to read, hope this helps.
monobenzone topical medical facts from Drugs.com (http://www.drugs.com/mtm/monobenzone-topical.html)
Monobenzone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monobenzone)
MONOBENZONE - TOPICAL (Benoquin) side effects, medical uses, and drug interactions. (http://www.medicinenet.com/monobenzone-topical/article.htm)