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IRISHSAINT26
Aug 5, 2009, 03:25 PM
Should an 10 year old be allowed to play this game? Should a three year old play and watch? It glamorizes stealing cars shooting police officers, violence and hookers... strip clubs...

podoboo
Aug 5, 2009, 07:50 PM
Well in the eyes of my mother, as long as you drill it into their head that its just a game and has absolutely no ties to reality, it doesn't hurt. However myself personally would never ever ever let my younger brother or sister (who are 5 & 9) watch let along play a copy of it (even though I was allowed to play the game when I was 12)... Some kids are just a tad to impressionable to be around anything like that. It really depends on the kid though, Some, as I was, can play a game or watch a TV show/movie of this kind and not duplicate anything that comes from it, however others like a cousin of mine, have to imitate every single bad act imaginable... So my vote is no, after all there are ratings on the boxes for a reason.

Jake2008
Aug 5, 2009, 07:59 PM
Ultimately it's up to the parents.

But, there is no way in hell that a 10 year old, and particularly a 3 year old, should be allowed to watch that kind of violence, whether on TV, at the theatre (where they wouldn't get in anyway), or in a video game.

Killing police officers is 'entertainment'?

Just my opinion, but that game should be off limits for young children.

shazamataz
Aug 6, 2009, 01:31 AM
There's a reason the game is for ages 15+ ;)

IRISHSAINT26
Aug 6, 2009, 07:24 AM
Its 17+ Thank you all I agree, hopefully I can talk some sense into the person allowing this. It does depend on the child but I think 10 and 3 is way to young, I heard where 6 year old said it taught him how to drive, drove the car and ran over and killed his younger sibling. Very sad, we need to change America for the better one child at a time.

shazamataz
Aug 6, 2009, 08:16 AM
Oh OK, I thought it was only 15, 17 is even better.

Good on you though, you can try to talk some sense into them, it's really not appropriate, like you said, it can teach them some pretty bad values. Use the example you said here.

Just remember in the end they are their children so all you can do is to bring it up, if they say that they don't care if they play it then you don't want to start an argument.

Good luck.

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 11:43 AM
I don't think that a 10 year old should be playing that game. My little brother is 10 and I saw him playing it one time. I was a little shocked to see that. I asked him what he liked about the game and he said that he likes running people over, shooting people, and beating up the police. To me that wasn't cool. A 10 year old shouldn't be "liking" that kind of stuff. Some kids go out and re-enacte what they see on games and television. That's what's wrong with some kids today. And it doesn't make it any better that the parents don't care.

A 3 year old shouldn't even be anywhere near that kind of stuff.

That's my opinion.

albear
Aug 6, 2009, 11:49 AM
And then when kids younger go and commit similar crimes to that they've done in the game, it's the game that gets the blame, when it's the person who bought the game in the first place's fault :mad:

snippy07
Aug 6, 2009, 11:50 AM
I personally played it when I was 10, but I just liked driving the cars, I even stopped at the red lights and tried driving the same speed as the other cars :). But not everybody likes playing like that haha, so yea I think 10 is to young for most people.

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 12:06 PM
Snippy I play the game like that too :) I mean I do missions too, but I mainly just like to drive the cars, do cab fare missions, pimp mission lol. I just like to have fun on the game. Not that crazy reckless stuff

Unknown008
Aug 6, 2009, 12:31 PM
I had started the new GTA on nintendo DS (and Bear knows that;)) but I was really shocked... It's using foul languages, the 'boses' praising the character for using them, dealing of drugs, reckless killing, putting fire to shops, etc... I think I'll just deleted that game, and no longer play it. Already, I've not played it for some days now, more on other games.

So, my answer is also no. I've found 10+ ratings, 15+ ratings, 17+ ratings but also 18+ ratings. This game should be in either 17+ or 18+. Unfortunately, most younger teens ignore these ratings and go play them.

Btw, that GTA I got was from a smaller peer, who's 13! :eek: I really don't know where they get those games, and he even told me it was a very good game :eek:

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 12:40 PM
Wow!

spitvenom
Aug 6, 2009, 12:42 PM
You know I am 31 and I never played any of the GTA games. But I am not that big of a gamer anyway. I have a Wii do they even make it for the Wii?

snippy07
Aug 6, 2009, 12:47 PM
You know I am 31 and I never played any of the GTA games. But I am not that big of a gamer anyway. I have a Wii do they even make it for the Wii?

No I don't think so I just checked BestBuy online for you and they don't have it, so I'm assuming not unless they got it somewhere else.

Unknown008
Aug 6, 2009, 12:49 PM
You're lucky Spitevenom! I think that there are better games on the Wii console. (I want one badly!! :()

EDIT: There are so many people having one... you're the fifth one (I think) since yesterday whom I discovered had a Wii :(

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 12:52 PM
Yea the Wii is a pretty nice game system. I love it. Wish I had one too

albear
Aug 6, 2009, 12:56 PM
It's a really good party console, drunk bowling with friends can be priceless :)

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 01:00 PM
I haven't heard anyone complain about it either. They say that it is nice excersising too.

Drunk bowling with friends does sound like fun lol. Drunk kareoke is fun too!! That's my fav!

Unknown008
Aug 6, 2009, 01:02 PM
I've only heard of some people complaining that the game was being mean to them by saying that they were not that very in good physique :p ;)

asking
Aug 6, 2009, 01:06 PM
Three. No way. And ten is too young, although if the ten year old had a 16 year old sibling, it might be hard to stop without banning the game.

I confess that my kids have played this game quite a lot and well before 17. In fact, I even have played it and had fun. I wasn't very happy about the game at first, but they were mostly driving the cars. To be honest, there are way more horrible games. The most disturbing thing I saw was an adult visitor who didn't usually play video games. We handed him the controls for GTA and he started kicking random pedestrians to death. This was a middle aged, mild mannered college professor (I thought) so I was kind of surprised.

My kids are not violent at all and are very tender hearted about animals. The older one won't even go to see violent movies--especially documentaries about Iraq and similar. Yet he plays first person shooter games. He does not like it when I kill real mice in our garage. Is the younger one less sensitive because he's logged more hours playing games? I don't know. But he's not remotely inclined to real violence as far as I can see. When he occasionally goes around shooting pedestrians in Grand Theft Auto, his brother and I give him a hard time. He says we take it too seriously.

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 01:06 PM
LOL that's funny

spitvenom
Aug 6, 2009, 01:06 PM
Allbear is right drunk bowling is great. We play for money also. Here is what we do everyone puts 2 bucks in the pot (sometimes more sometimes less) then get a deck of cards and shuffle them when ever a player gets a strike or a spare they pick a card if you don't get a strike or spare you don't get a card. At the end of the game whoever has the 5 best cards (like poker) wins the pot.

Now if you get a strike or a spare and forget to pick up a card and the next person goes gets a X or / and picks up a card the person who forgot does not get to pick up a card. That's when the being drunk really gets interesting.

albear
Aug 6, 2009, 01:07 PM
I've only heard of some people complaining that the game was being mean to them by saying that they were not that very in good physique :p ;)

Yeah but I know I'm not so I'm not so insulted by it :D

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 01:07 PM
Sounds like a fun game

spitvenom
Aug 6, 2009, 01:11 PM
I've only heard of some people complaining that the game was being mean to them by saying that they were not that very in good physique :p ;)

It's true they give you a Wii fit age when you first start the Wii fit game and it is insulting. But it goes by BMI (body mass Index) which is a BS way to tell if someone is in shape or not. I mean I am 5'6" 165lb but I go to the gym every morning and I have more muscle then fat. But the Wii doesn't know this so my guy looks like a short beer bellied guy. I was offended it rated me overweight!! I have been going to the gym almost everyday since I was 16!!

HotPotato2009
Aug 6, 2009, 01:13 PM
That's messed up

Unknown008
Aug 6, 2009, 01:17 PM
LOL! Quite a story, spitevenom! :p

As for BMI, it's easy if you know the values in kg for mass and metres for height.

BMI = Mass/(Height^2)

albear
Aug 6, 2009, 01:21 PM
Lol, spitvenom,that sucks (orry but I'm laughing inside :D)

spitvenom
Aug 6, 2009, 01:24 PM
Oh and my Wii fit age is 45!!

dontknownuthin
Aug 9, 2009, 07:58 PM
I don't let my 15 year old play this game. He will never have this game as a minor. If has it as an adult, he will know I think it's ridiculous to spend his money on it. It's violent, it glamorizes violence against police, stealing, speeding, guns -- why would any parent want this game in their house?


Children this age should have nothing rated higher than "G" in games or movies. They will fight for more, and the parent's job is to say "no". They will grow up soon enough, and there's absolutely no benefit whatsoever to be gained from playing this game - whether 10 or 100.

Unknown008
Aug 10, 2009, 09:43 AM
Ah, I've found the site about game ratings.

Entertainment Software Rating Board (http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp)

GTA should be M (Mature) or AO (Adults only)

angelbaby93
Aug 10, 2009, 03:13 PM
This game should not be played by children that young or even be watching someone play this game because the children may think its OK to try and do things in that game.. I have played all of them and I don't think children should really play it unless their mature enough... The ratings also say mature on them

jenniepepsi
Aug 10, 2009, 09:53 PM
I don't think I can even comment on this :P I don't think ANYONE should play it. I think it's a terrible discusting game that should never have been made in the first place.


But that's just me ;)

albear
Aug 11, 2009, 06:39 AM
There are worse games out there jennie, a lot worse

Unknown008
Aug 11, 2009, 06:43 AM
there are worse games out there jennie, alot worse

Yes, Bear, sadly...

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 06:47 AM
There are a lot of worse games than GTA. I like the game because it has a lot of missions to complete.

Unknown008
Aug 11, 2009, 08:34 AM
Missions like "Go kill that person", "Set fire to that store" or "Bring that Ecstasy for me, 10 boxes" ? :eek:

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 08:46 AM
:p well... yeah if you put it that way. See now you making it seem like I'm the bad person here :p

When I play the game I usually play alone or with my boyfriend. I don't ever play that game when my brother comes to my house or anyone else his age. The rules in my house about GTA is if your not older than me, you can't play it LOL!

Unknown008
Aug 11, 2009, 08:59 AM
OMG! You better not be young then, or else, everybody would be able to play GTA! :p

Well, I don't know, I just removed the game from my console. I'm actually playing Sonic Chronicles DarkBrotherhood. It's hard to level up, and the opponents are getting tougher... I'm using more and more PP to fight them.

Never mind me, continue...

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 09:04 AM
I'm 22.

I've never heard of any of the games that you play

albear
Aug 11, 2009, 09:06 AM
Howcould you not have heard of sonic?

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 09:10 AM
Oh... well I've heard of sonic lol, but that was a LONG time ago when I played sonic. I played that when it was out on sega genesis. I believe that was in the 90s

Unknown008
Aug 11, 2009, 09:13 AM
Hum may I ask you on what do you play games? I said before I played on GBA and Nintendo DS (well, I didn't say about GBA but now :o)

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 09:20 AM
The only game system I have now is Playstation 2. In the 90s I had the sega genesis, and then I moved to a Nentendo 64 (but that stopped working) so I bought a Playstation. I like sports games, racing and driving games, navy seal and army games etc.

What is a GBA?

Unknown008
Aug 11, 2009, 09:26 AM
GBA is Game Boy Advance, one of the products of Nintendo.

The first game console I know from Nintendo is GBC, or Game Boy Colour, then GBA, for Game Boy Advance, then, GBA sp, for Game Boy Advance sp (dunno what the sp stands for exactly), then came the Nintendo DS, then the Nintendo DS lite, and recently, the Nintendo DSi, with camera integrated. Those are the portable consoles of nintendo. (there may be some I've missed... but I know only about these, which I came across)

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 09:32 AM
You must play the handheld games?

Unknown008
Aug 11, 2009, 09:40 AM
Yes, if you put it that way. I've played some (that's very few though) PC games, and about the same amount of games displayed on a TV set. I've got a playstation 1 (I know, that's really old), played Grand Turismo on that, and a few others. But now, it's sleeping...

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 09:49 AM
Lol oh OK.. I need to buy some new games for my system

jenniepepsi
Aug 11, 2009, 10:07 AM
there are worse games out there jennie, alot worse

Oh I know. I don't like god of war either. Not because I don't like the accuall GAME, it's the 'game play' I don't like. Its so GRAPHIC! *shudder* but I can't complain. Its for adults. The only time I complained was when my hubby decided to let our 5 year old watch. Grr. She got to watch some dude get his bowels eaten by a raven, EVERY DETAIL DEPICTED, and then the stomach magically GREW BACK and he had to go through it again as a punishment from the gods.

Yeah definitely not something my 5 year old needs to see.

Don't get me wrong, blood and guts don't bother me as much as you would think. Ayla has played mortal kombat before, and the 007 games and doom and stuff like that. She even plays world of warcraft. But the DETAIL and the SUBJECT matter in god of war drives me nuts.

Its much the same situation with grand theft auto. It's the subject matter that I find disturbing. Not so much the blood, violence, bad words.

jenniepepsi
Aug 11, 2009, 10:09 AM
Wow I feel old... I still remember our intelivision and atari and my parents even had an old magnavox oddessy! Lets see how many of you know what THAT is! LOL. Fun as hell when your little. Then you grow up. :P not so much

albear
Aug 11, 2009, 11:19 AM
Well I had worse games in mind,but yea that's the whole point of the rating system

Subject matter? You don't like greek mythology jennie :D

HotPotato2009
Aug 11, 2009, 11:28 AM
You know what game I find scary to play? Silent Hill... oooooooohhhhhhhhh now that gives me the chills lol. Any of you ever play that?

jenniepepsi
Aug 11, 2009, 11:46 AM
Lol no its not the greek mythology I don't like. It's the type of violence. And it doesn't really have anything to do with religeon, or lack of it. Whether I'm a christian or NOT, I would still feel that kids don't need to believe ANY gods are evil like that. You know? Be it my god, your god, or some imaginary god. Its just not something a child should even have to comprehend.

frostybabygurl
Aug 11, 2009, 11:50 AM
When GTA first came out, my ex used to play this around our daughter all the time, he used to let her play it as well. He would show her how to pick up hookers, beat people up and get the police chasing after you. At the time my daughter was 7 and she started to become very aggressive after playing it. I advised her father to stop playing it around her and to not allow her to play it, her aggression slowed down to almost non existent. As much as I am a firm believer that video games, movies and music don't create violence, young children are easily influenced and therefore should not be allowed to play these games. There is a reason why they have the ratings on the back of the games. Pretty much what t comes down to, is your child's maturity and how you feel about allowing that game to played in your home. There is no right or wrong answer in regards to this issue.

abdrahman
Aug 30, 2009, 02:21 PM
there's STRONG LANGUAGE why the hell would u let them play I played when I was 11 but I was pretty mature I didn't talk about farting and the F word so yeah plus there cheat codes to see NAKED PEOPLE so it's rated (to me) X for xtrem violence and stuff only ages to 999 to 5000000000