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MAD King
Jul 24, 2009, 06:47 PM
We got dorect beside our door a spider. We do not want to kill it, but woul dlike what kind of spider this is. Is it poisonous or harmless?

Thank you

jmjoseph
Jul 24, 2009, 06:50 PM
Can't really see it that good. Compare web picture of a "Brown Recluse", THEY'RE poisonous.

jmjoseph
Jul 24, 2009, 07:19 PM
I looked up the Brown Recluse, and it doesn't look like it. There is a BROWN widow spider. Not only black, but brown too. I would "relocate" him if I wasn't sure. Especially if there are kids around. We do a lot of relocating here. I relocated a HUGE black snake that was under a cooler in the garage. I got some major hero points with my two sons (4&7) over that. I was fishing and got bit by a spider last month on my thigh. I had to take antibiotics ,and my leg is just now healing good. So be careful.

MAD King
Jul 24, 2009, 07:44 PM
Here is a closer shot. Hope you can see it better now.

simoneaugie
Jul 24, 2009, 07:47 PM
Kudos for not squashing it! Just move it if you're worried that it's poisonious. Send a photo if its back if you can.

Torrid13
Jul 24, 2009, 08:43 PM
When I was in the 7th grade or so, I got bit by a brown recluse on my chest in my sleep.

Needless to say, I woke up with a rotting chest. >.> Luckily I'm fine now, but I have a nice pink scar on my jellyfish skin. Be careful, for sure.

Catsmine
Jul 25, 2009, 02:53 AM
From the photo, it's difficult to distinguish identifying features, but the body shape and general coloring, as well as the webbing, seem consistent with a brown widow. They are relatively harmless unless you try to pick them up barehanded.

Getting her to move is a simple matter of sweeping down her web every day for about a week. If she can't catch dinner, she'll find another restaurant.

MAD King
Jul 25, 2009, 09:37 AM
Brown Widows look different:

Brown Widow Spider (http://www.badspiderbites.com/brown-widow-spider/)

I will try to get a better pic from the back but I am not a big fan of spiders, but I do not want to kill it. Don't know why. But I also could never relocate it. Can I flush it with my water hose?

jmjoseph
Jul 25, 2009, 03:02 PM
Brown Widows look different:

Brown Widow Spider (http://www.badspiderbites.com/brown-widow-spider/)

I will try to get a better pic from the back but I am not a big fan of spiders, but I do not want to kill it. Dont know why. But I also could never relocate it. Can I flush it with my water hose?

Yes, they are different. You couldn't get an old mop or something like that and get it on there and walk it to the edge of your property?

MAD King
Jul 25, 2009, 03:07 PM
But will the spider really leave my house to get a new place then? Just to my neighbour? Or is it just moving a foot away?

jenniepepsi
Jul 25, 2009, 03:23 PM
I say wolf spider. My dad looked at it (he knows lots of spiders) and said it looks like a wolf spider

MAD King
Jul 25, 2009, 03:35 PM
Aren't wolf spiders larger?

Wolf spider - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_spider)

jenniepepsi
Jul 25, 2009, 03:52 PM
Not always, here is a grey colored one in carolina

http://www.petbugs.com/caresheets/gallery/H-carolinensis.jpg

jenniepepsi
Jul 25, 2009, 03:53 PM
It has the same markings, its just red instead of grey

Catsmine
Jul 25, 2009, 04:22 PM
But will the spider really leave my house to get a new place then? Just to my neighbour? Or is it just moving a foot away?

Just sweep down the webbing a few times. It will get the hint.

I don't think it is a wolf spider, they don't spin. Here are some other links to spider pictures:

ARACHNOLOGY - ORB WEB SPIDERS (http://www.arachnology.be/pages/Orbweb.html)

Alty
Jul 25, 2009, 04:59 PM
I've sent the picture to my friend, he's an entomologist and specializes in spiders.

It may take a few days for him to get back to me though, so be patient. :)

Until then, I'd listen to Cats and start sweeping down the web, or put on gloves (thick ones) and move her.

The chances of it being poisonous is pretty slim, contrary to popular belief there aren't that many poisonous spiders, most of them are harmless.

MAD King
Jul 25, 2009, 06:53 PM
.......put on gloves (thick ones) and move her.



I'll wait of your friends answer. :o

Alty
Jul 25, 2009, 07:07 PM
I'll wait of your friends answer. :o

LOL! Okay then.

Give it a few days, he's a busy guy. :)

MAD King
Jul 25, 2009, 08:00 PM
Yes of course

Torrid13
Jul 25, 2009, 09:01 PM
I'm sorry, but spiders scare the bejeebus out of me. Probably because of my past epic battle with one, but still!

They're all... 8-legged and hairy and all those eyes... and come into your house like they're crashing a party you didn't invite them to... AND THEN! They steal your corners!

And yes, I am aware I am being a hater right now.
Don't stone me!

Alty
Jul 25, 2009, 10:54 PM
I love spiders. Think about it, they're cool. They spin silk out of their arses, who else can do that?

Also, 8 legs, that's awesome.

Got a response from my friend. Sadly he's in Arizona collecting bugs right now so doesn't have all his equipment on hand.

His response;

Well, it's a boy - I can tell you that much. It might be a grass spider, wolf spider or even a fishing spider. It's not dangerous. you'll be okay. I'm collecting bugs in Arizona. I'll call you when I'm back.

In other words, it's totally safe to move him, find him a new home. :)

MAD King
Jul 26, 2009, 07:44 AM
In other words, it's totally safe to move him, find him a new home. :)

Thank you. I will ask my neighbour if he would move it :o

Is it true: I heard that if you move spiders they will come back to the place you moved them from?

jmjoseph
Jul 26, 2009, 08:21 AM
Thank you. I will ask my neighbour if he would move it :o

Is it true: I heard that if you move spiders they will come back to the place you moved them from?

WE do it all the time. I couldn't say either way. But I know that they don't come RIGHT back. They're really smart like Catsmine says, they get discouraged, and make a web somewhere else. We try to live in "harmony"( within reason ) with all the critters around us. Sometimes we have to kill the ones that pose a threat to our kids, but even them we relocate sometimes. Black widows are on the kill list because there are so many of them. And they are prolific egg layers. Good luck to you. Let us know if your spider returns home.

I found out, through this site, that flying squirrels will return "home" to where they were plucked. Up to 20 miles. The professionals recommend taking them across a RIVER, to prevent them returning. That was our problem, we had dozens of them in our eave. Someone on the other side of the river is cussing me now.

MAD King
Jul 26, 2009, 08:41 AM
I found out, through this site, that flying squirrels will return "home" ...

I first thought you were kidding me, but after I looked it up on google: Holy cow, there are really flying squirrels. I have never seen or heard of it. WOW. Nice animals.

jmjoseph
Jul 26, 2009, 09:01 AM
I first thought you were kidding me, but after I looked it up on google: Holy cow, there are really flying squirrels. I have never seen or heard of it. WOW. Nice animals.

Yea, at first they were nice, my wife and I thought it was cool having such amazing creatures living amongst us. But THEN, they multiplied, and mulitiplied, and... 10 years later. And here we are with the scatching clawing, bumping, not to mention the CHEWING. Well all is well, they've been successfully evicted, and there's peace again... well not really peace, I still have two young sons that are driving me crazy right now. You see, my wife is a flight attendant, and spends every weekend overseas, so it's us three, trying not to tear the house up. They do more damage than the squirrels. But, I'm keeping THEM.

MAD King
Jul 26, 2009, 09:07 AM
You are funny. Lol

Alty
Jul 26, 2009, 09:45 AM
Yea, at first they were nice, my wife and I thought it was cool having such amazing creatures living amongst us. But THEN, they multiplied, and mulitiplied, and... 10 years later. And here we are with the scatching clawing, bumping, not to mention the CHEWING. Well all is well, they've been successfully evicted, and there's peace again... well not really peace, I still have two young sons that are driving me crazy right now. You see, my wife is a flight attendant, and spends every weekend overseas, so it's us three, trying not to tear the house up. They do more damage than the squirrels. But, I'm keeping THEM.

LMAO! Love it.

Squirrels can be a nuisance. My friend had squirrels in her yard, the darn things ate their pool lining, $5000 to replace it.

They tried to evict too but they kept coming back.

They finally gave up, filled in the pool, put up a bird feeder and are now living together in relative peace and quiet.

Friends - 0
Squirrels - 1

:)

Torrid13
Jul 26, 2009, 10:56 AM
I love spiders. Think about it, they're cool. They spin silk out of their arses, who else can do that?

Also, 8 legs, that's awesome.

Well, I can fling snot from my nose, if I ever had the desire to. HA, spider!

jmjoseph
Jul 26, 2009, 10:59 AM
Well, I can fling snot from my nose, if I ever had the desire to. HA, spider!

Wow, that's handy to know. How much does something like THAT pay. I'll bet my kids will give you a quarter for a picture of you actually doing it.

Torrid13
Jul 26, 2009, 11:04 AM
I know. I'm obviously more prepared to handle situations than a SPIDER. XD

Well, see, all you have to do is get a bad head cold (sinus infections work best) and let the snot accumulate until it's about to come out of your nose, and then turn your head really fast.

It will fling out. >:3

I accidentally did it once to my dad when I was younger, that's how I know about it. I haven't done it recently... I promise...

<.<

>.>

jmjoseph
Jul 26, 2009, 11:13 AM
I know. I'm obviously more prepared to handle situations than a SPIDER. xD

Well, see, all you have to do is get a bad head cold (sinus infections work best) and let the snot accumulate until it's about to come out of your nose, and then turn your head really fast.

It will fling out. >:3

I accidentally did it once to my dad when I was younger, that's how I know about it. I haven't done it recently...I promise....

<.<

>.>

Yea, sure you haven't. It's probably on your resume as special skills.

Alty
Jul 26, 2009, 11:14 AM
I can shoot milk from my nose at least 3 feet.

Don't ask how I know. ;)

jmjoseph
Jul 26, 2009, 11:31 AM
I can shoot milk from my nose at least 3 feet.

Don't ask how I know. ;)

Don't tell me, you were drinking milk right when you saw torrid's nose trick and...

jmjoseph
Jul 26, 2009, 11:33 AM
I can turn a hundred dollar bill into a handful of change, at Bass Pro Shops... in a matter of seconds.

Torrid13
Jul 26, 2009, 11:47 AM
Yea, sure you haven't. It's probably on your resume as special skills.

I've been caught.

Yes, it IS under the "special skills" section, right under whistling and sounding like Cartman from South Park.

jmjoseph
Jul 26, 2009, 12:32 PM
I hope my two boys find a mate with your thinking, a love of the great outdoors. I think it's such a shame to miss all the wonderful things that are OUTSIDE the house. Mother nature is my girlfriend, I try to see her every chance I get. My wife comes along too.

Alty
Jul 26, 2009, 12:49 PM
Sadly I have to be the voice of reason here everyone.

We're hijacking the thread, my specialty. Back on topic or we'll get into trouble.

I hate being the voice of reason. It's so not me. ;)

Catsmine
Jul 27, 2009, 02:39 AM
MadKing, do you have any other questions? That actually pertain to your spider?

jmjoseph
Jul 27, 2009, 02:54 AM
Sorry about the rambling on. I was influenced, I'm not naming names.

As far as spiders go, I've found that the best way to get rid of Black Widows is to kill all the ones you see. You would have to actually contaminate your property with chemicals to deter them, as I understand from researching. I hate to kill anything that I don't eat , but they're too much of a threat to my children. Madking, Do you have a phobia of spiders? As you seem reluctant to touch one. Most people I know are. As a surveyor, you're walking through the woods, walk through a web you don't see, just as your getting the web out of eyelashes, you feel the webMAKER crawling on the back of your neck... You gently remove it and walk on, through another web...

Good luck on the spiders at your house.

MAD King
Jul 27, 2009, 07:13 AM
jmjoseph, Yes I do have a phobia of spiders. I do not use chemicals. I think what kills insects and other animals can kill jumas too. So I'll take the water hose.

Catsmine I do not have further questions.

Thank you all

Catsmine
Jul 27, 2009, 03:13 PM
Catsmine I do not have further questions.

Thank you all

I try to help, despite bored Sunday afternoon hijackers. For once I wasn't one of them. You are most welcome.

CloudMoon
Aug 13, 2009, 07:25 PM
I am trying to find out about a spider of my own and I came across a picture and description of that I can't remember name but it it pretty much harmless

Catsmine
Aug 14, 2009, 01:54 AM
i am trying to find out about a spider of my own and i came across a picture and description of that i can't remember name but it it pretty much harmless

Did it look like MADking's?