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lazylana88
Jul 9, 2009, 06:39 PM
Does it really exist or is it an excuse for people to pursue their gay interest while not completely closing themselves off to straights? What is it about. Most girls are bi" is it just an attention scam? I rarely hear of bi guys

N0help4u
Jul 9, 2009, 06:46 PM
Why do you say most girls are bi
I know tons of girls that have no interest in being with another girl.

jenniepepsi
Jul 9, 2009, 06:47 PM
There are some instances where it really is a gay person not wanting to completely let it out that they are gay.

Or a curious person who is straight but still a little interested in the same sex.

However, its not fake. There are people who are mutually interested in boy sexes and enjoy the sexual company of both.

lazylana88
Jul 9, 2009, 07:17 PM
Ok, what i meant is that most girls who say they are bi are girls and i think its for atencion
and so to bisexuality is just like a gray area that we make up?

Catsmine
Jul 9, 2009, 07:38 PM
most girls who say they are bi are girls

Please proof read.

Justwantfair
Jul 9, 2009, 07:39 PM
It is far more acceptable for a woman to consider herself bisexual then it is for a man.

Bisexual men are often more gay, while bisexual women are often experimenting with their sexuality, besides the additional factor that bisexual women are attractive to straight men, it's a win-win for a bisexual female. A bisexual male on the other hand, would often find themselves rejected by straight women.

Bisexuality does exist. There are often gray areas with which people fall, it's not all black and white.

mosag330
Jul 9, 2009, 07:53 PM
Bisesuality? Is that so?

There are indeed people who claim they are bisexual just to get attention. Those are the people who are responsible for the idea that bisexuality isn't "real", and that bisexuals are all either in denial or attention-whores. Those are the people who need to be slapped.

Quote: I rarely hear of bi guys

All I have to say to that: you need to get out more.

Men are less likely to admit to being bisexual because of the negative stereotypes associated with male homosexuality.

Male vs female bisexuality is so thick with double standards that it's virtually impossible for a guy to retain any dignity once he comes out.

The first thing people think of when they hear "bisexual girl" is more along the lines of hot cheerleaders making out and letting you watch, join in, or whip out your camera. The first thing people think of when they hear "bisexual man" is either that creepy emo kid from homeroom, or someone who will sneak up and rape you in the locker room if you drop the soap.

When a girl gets drunk and kisses another girl once on a dare or because she was bet $20, she is just having some fun. If she considers herself straight, people take her for her word. When a guy gets drunk and kisses another guy once on a dare or for $20, he is a latent homosexual. If he considers himself straight, people will consider him "in the closet" and try to out him at every opportunity.

So, it's kind of easy to see why men are more hesitant to admit to a "deviant" sexual lifestyle or to experimentation.

Reference: approximately 3/4 of my friends or ex-boyfriends are gay/lesbian/bisexual.

ScottGem
Jul 10, 2009, 02:12 AM
Hmmmm, j_ely823 and lazylana88 seem to be sharing the same computer. One claims to be a 19 yr old clearly heterosexual (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/lifetime-love-373818.html) while the other seems to be either 19 or 21 with homosexual tendencies.

I'm thinking troll here.

N0help4u
Jul 10, 2009, 03:17 AM
I was wondering why the two of them popped up the same day asking similar type questions

Christfollower
Jul 15, 2009, 02:08 PM
Being bisexual is not fake. Sometimes emotional needs are best met with the opposite sex and others are met with that of the same sex. While you can be physically attracted to the opposite sex, some people find that they have also had enjoyable homosexual experiences as well. It is possible to be emotionally and physically attracted to both sexes.

Justwantfair
Jul 15, 2009, 02:10 PM
To remain monogamous, even bi-sexuals have to make a choice for love.

Justwantfair
Jul 16, 2009, 06:24 AM
mosag330 disagrees: That is flawed logic.

There isn't anything flawed about monogamy, it means one. Being attracted to both men and women, in a monogamous relationship you will choose a partner and to be faithful that will mean avoiding further attractions to remain faithful to your partner.

The rules regulate that if you disagree it has to be an unfactual statement. It's very factual that monogamy is limited to one relationship, which means making a choice. Please use the reputation system appropriately.

smoothy
Jul 16, 2009, 07:27 AM
There isn't anything flawed about monogamy, it means one. Being attracted to both men and women, in a monogamous relationship you will choose a partner and to be faithful that will mean avoiding further attractions to remain faithful to your partner.

The rules regulate that if you disagree it has to be an unfactual statement. It's very factual that monogamy is limited to one relationship, which means making a choice. Please use the reputation system appropriately.
Mosag330 doesn't even know how to use condoms, is constantly argumentative based on several threads, and constantly misuses the red disagree. If she continues to do so, I would recommend lodging complaints against her with the moderators.

THere is nothing at all flawed about the logic of monogamy... many people chose it and many people that do live long happy lives totally monogomous... and best of all they can do so without concern of getting AIDS or some other STD. Monogomy might not be for everyone... the only flawed logic is among people that choose to have numerous sex partners, and not use sufficient protection... and even with protection its gambling with your life these days.

If there is a flawed logic present anyplace it's there, not among people who choose monogamy.

Alty
Jul 16, 2009, 10:38 AM
There isn't anything flawed about monogamy, it means one. Being attracted to both men and women, in a monogamous relationship you will choose a partner and to be faithful that will mean avoiding further attractions to remain faithful to your partner.

The rules regulate that if you disagree it has to be an unfactual statement. It's very factual that monogamy is limited to one relationship, which means making a choice. Please use the reputation system appropriately.

Not only is your statement correct, it's also opinion and therefore not deserving of a reddie.

I suggest that Mosag read the rules before she is given a warning or banned from this site.

Why do newbies think the rules don't concern them?

ScottGem
Jul 16, 2009, 03:05 PM
Comments on this post
mosag330 (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/mosag330.html) disagrees: That is flawed logic.

First, may I call your attention to the guidelines for using the comments feature found here:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/feedback/using-comments-feature-24951.html

Your negative comment was inappropriate since it expressed an opinion. You may disagree with the opinion, but not by using the comments feature.

What is worse is that the post you commented on was NOT flawed logic in the slightest. So not only was your comment inappropriate it was incorrect.

slapshot_oi
Jul 17, 2009, 08:05 AM
I don't know if bisexuality is "real" per se, but I tend to think that people will become bisexual if it falls within the boundaries of socially acceptable behavior, pretty much what Justwantfair already said.

At any rate, of the bisexuals I've known and most were women, all of them have been in and out of relationships and are quite depressed. They play it off as if life is great, but talking to them in private, I got their whole story. They were always "on the search for love", and opening your availability to other gender increases your odds, right?

I think bisexuality has more to do with self-reflection than sexual orientation.

briancp34
Jul 17, 2009, 09:52 AM
There isn't anything flawed about monogamy, it means one. Being attracted to both men and women, in a monogamous relationship you will choose a partner and to be faithful that will mean avoiding further attractions to remain faithful to your partner.

The rules regulate that if you disagree it has to be an unfactual statement. It's very factual that monogamy is limited to one relationship, which means making a choice. Please use the reputation system appropriately.

I hope to draw attention back to the question. Bi-sexual as many on here have said is in fact a grey area. There are many different ways to interpret it. It can be for attention. It can be out of curiosity. It may an open minded search for companionship. They may have experienced unspeakable things in their childhood that has lead them in the, what I will say biological wrong direction. I don't mean that there is nessicarilly anything wrong with bi or homosexuality. It simply doesn't work for biological reproduction, which is the root topic for sexual activity.

I have to say that women are certainly more attractive than any guy I ever saw. I've always thought of sex as sensual relations between 2 people. So I can tell you that women are definitely more sensual than some big hairy ape trying to act all sexy. Of coarse that's my opinion. That's why I would say you find a lot more bi-sexual women than you do men. But now we get back to that grey area.

Their condition may be as shallow as a need for attention. If same sex relations were to come to be more exceptible, they may just drop it, because it just didn't get them their attention.

Their condition may be because they're curious about their sexuality. In which case there's no telling which way they may ultimately prefer. If they seek a certain way they wish to be treated, they may go with any relationship that they get that treatment from.

On the other end of that scale of grey they may have been mentally or sexually abused as a child and they may have it more or less deeply set in their mind that this is the way things are supposed to be. In these cases I would say that if bi and homosexuality were to become more exceptible, We would see a lot more "closet cases" come out to be known. They may also tend toward which ever relationship renders the treatment that they believe they need or deserve. If they come upon a relationship that treats them the way they believe they're supposed to be treated but the relationship lacks in sensuality, they may bring it to the table. That's no matter if they are a man or a woman with which ever they've made their relationship with. Normally that other person would also have the right maximum or minimum sexual and sensual elements at the table to combine with their own to create the atmosphere they wish.

In the end I'd say that bisexuality is a temporary state of self exploration. In the end, they choose one or the other anyway.

MINTKATA_71
Jul 19, 2009, 04:26 AM
Human attraction is simple and complex. With the vast knowledge and ever growing population humanity is becoming even more free. And soon into the future all sexualities will be accepted as a norm. Humanity is growing and always changing with acceptance. With of course many bumps on the way.
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klynntuck
Jul 22, 2009, 08:55 AM
I am a bisexual woman, and to me, its not a scam. I will never give up on men. I love the male extension way too much, and I love the female body and I love the sex with both. I started experimenting with girls when I was 13 years old. I know that's early, but I was curios then. I didn't actually have sex with a male until 14 which is also early, but anyway. I found that I like having sex with women because they know what another woman wants sexually (most of the time) I'm currently in a relationship with a man and he doesn't want me to be with women at all. But I can't help myself, I have a major urge to sleep with women. They turn me on!:D

N0help4u
Jul 22, 2009, 09:19 AM
I was replying to a post the other day by a girl that said she was bi and with everything she wrote it dawned on me that
She is not bi because she has to choose being with one sex or the other and that very likely if she is with a guy her heart is going to be wishing she was with a girl.
The only conclusion I could draw was that she was bi because society expects her to be heterosexual so to conform and compromise she accepts herself as bi
So in that sense I can see how bi can be fake.

DrJ
Jul 22, 2009, 12:49 PM
I think bisexuality is more real that homosexuality.. and heterosexuality, for that matter. I see it more of a spectrum of bisexuality... a spectrum of attraction.

Attraction is just a force by which one thing is attracted to another... the way a moth is attracted to light. It doesn't necessarily mean the moth wants to have sex with the light.

And repulsion is a force by which things repel one another

So we all just have a certain level of attraction or repulsion for others. While some may argue that they are repulsed by the same sex, I don't think that is entirely true. You choose your friends by the qualities they have that you are attracted to. That doesn't have to include sexual attraction... but it doesn't have to exclude it either.

So to what degree is that attraction/repulsion?

"Straight" girls may get drunk and make out with other girls. But they have to be attracted enough to that girl (or girls in general) that they feel it is acceptable.

"Gay" boys may get drunk and make out with other girls so they, too, must have a certain level of attraction to them.

I, personally, would never be able to make out with another guy, drunk or not, because my level of attraction for men does not go THAT far.

N0help4u
Jul 22, 2009, 12:58 PM
I have heard people say that everybody has some bi/homosexuality to them because there are things they are attracted to of the same sex whether it be their hair or their personality, but then my question is I am attracted to flowers, sunset, animals, my kids,
So how is thinking somebody of the same sex has nice hair, eyes or whatever being a form of bi/homo sexuality?

Xrayman
Jul 22, 2009, 04:30 PM
Bisesuality is fake


Okay, firstly it is Bisexuality.

Your comments about "Fake" sexual orientations both amuse and disturb me.

It always amazes me that people that understand the least about a subject seem to speak the loudest and have the most to say-strange that.


Does it really exist or is it an excuse for people to pursue their gay interest while not completely closing themselves off to straights? What is it about. Most girls are bi" is it just an attention scam? I rarely hear of bi guys


Yes it REALLY exists. No it is not an excuse to pursue a "gay interest". Closing off from straights?? What??
What is it about? It is a valid sexual orientation within the scope and spectrum of human sexuality.
Most girls are Bi?? You have absolutely no idea.
Seeking attention? Why would you want to seek attention when this group of people are the most ridiculed and put-down sexual orientation-because apparently it is "fake"?
I rarely hear of BI guys. Well that's because societal pressures are placed onto this population-gay males are regularly seen in a good light, gay females-are even encouraged in some circles , and bi-females are seen as attractive to a great deal more of society both male and female because we think we may "have a chance" with that person regardless of our gender.

A great quote was said a while ago-a biker was asked about his tattoos and society's view of them-he said, "The difference between tattooed people and non-tattooed people is that tattooed people don't judge non-tattooed people"

I think the same can be said for people of different sexual orientations that we may not understand.

Come on people, loosen-up accept all variances within the spectrum of human sexuality and move-on! After all we all accept YOU.

Thanks for the rant.

DrJ
Jul 22, 2009, 05:25 PM
I have heard people say that everybody has some bi/homosexuality to them because there are things they are attracted to of the same sex whether it be their hair or their personality, but then my question is I am attracted to flowers, sunset, animals, my kids,
so how is thinking somebody of the same sex has nice hair, eyes or whatever being a form of bi/homo sexuality?


What if you looked at that question the other way around. I wouldn't say that THAT kind of attraction is a form of bi/homo sexuality but that bi/homo sexuality is a form of that kind of attraction.

Everything exists in a range of attraction or repulsion to everything else and it is by that range that we label or define the relationship.

Hmmm.. I wonder though... if that IS the case, could it be that there are different types of attraction that would be measured? Or would everything just be at different levels on the same scale? Anyway, that's a different discussion...

(obviously, this theory is still a work in progress heh)

N0help4u
Jul 22, 2009, 05:35 PM
yeah but like you say there are so many variables and so many people that anybody can fall in any one or more of many categories.
I think the person I replied to the other day was not bi but felt the obligation to accept both rather than the socially taboo one.

I know that bi or homo or what you are saying is not an issue or choice of mine because basically I do not look at people sexually but as people/individuals and really I don't have much of any interest in the sexual aspects of anything.
Now IF the RIGHT guy came along... :D

klynntuck
Jul 23, 2009, 08:13 AM
Bisexual mean that your are attracted to both sexes and you explore both options. I explore all my options and enjoy them both.