View Full Version : My fantail died
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 11:48 AM
My fantail died a few weeks ago and I just want to know how it died. It was the only fish in the tank and it's gills had white stuff poking out!:eek:
jenniepepsi
Jun 30, 2009, 12:23 PM
I'm sorry for your loss.
It sounds like your fish died of ick. Was the 'white stuff' looking like salt, and all over the fish and tank?
Do you have a fish vet in your area that could possibly preform an autopsy?
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 12:35 PM
im sorry for your loss.
it sounds like your fish died of ick. was the 'white stuff' looking like salt, and all over the fish and tank?
do you have a fish vet in your area that could possibly preform an autopsy?
Um no it didn't look like salt at all and it wasn't all over the fish just around the gills
jenniepepsi
Jun 30, 2009, 12:40 PM
Can you possibly get a picture of it?
I want to say its simply the fact that he is dead. The same thing happens to people. When we die, our blood stops pumping, giving our bodys a pale /white color.
But I can't say that unless I know EXACTLy what it looks like.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 12:43 PM
can you possibly get a pciture of it?
i want to say its simply the fact that he is dead. the same thing happens to people. when we die, our blood stops pumping, giving our bodys a pale /white color.
but i can't say that unless i know EXACTLy waht it looks like.
Well I can't get a picture of it because I flushed it down the toilet. But it looks like a whitesh wormy thingy sticking out of the gills
jenniepepsi
Jun 30, 2009, 12:48 PM
Ahhh
This is most likely poop. Which is common and I doubt this was the cause of death unless he asperated it and jammed up his gills and he stopped breathing.
You may never know why he died hon.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 12:50 PM
Well I don't agree because I feed my fish red flakes and their poo is always red
jenniepepsi
Jun 30, 2009, 12:55 PM
Their poop should NOT be red unless you are over feeding them that tells me they had internal damage.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 01:17 PM
[QUOTE=jenniepepsi;1828388]their poop should NOT be red unless you are over feeding them that tells me they had internal damage.
but all my fish's poops are red and alot are very healty
jenniepepsi
Jun 30, 2009, 01:19 PM
Huh?
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 01:25 PM
huh?
well as i mentioned i feed my fish red flake food and their poops are always red
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 01:36 PM
well as i mentioned i feed my fish red flake food and their poops are always red
hello? you still there?
hheath541
Jun 30, 2009, 02:10 PM
Goldfish are actually fairly fragile fish. They can become poisoned, and die, from the toxins their own bodies produce if their water isn't changed often enough. Also, since they are fish, they don't usually have an incredibly long lifespan.
How big was the fish, in inches? How big was the tank, in gallons? Did it have a filter system? How old was the fish? How long had you had it? Where did you get it from?
The general rule is one inch of goldfish for every gallon of water in the tank. You should also be changing out half the water every month or so, and have a filter system in place. Under gravel filters work best with goldfish.
Where you get the fish can make a huge difference, too. There is usually no way of knowing how old a fish is when you buy it. Many pet stores don't take very good care of their fish, especially smaller, less expensive fish, like goldfish. When you're looking at fish you should look at all of them. If there are dead fish in the tanks, the water seems unclean, there's algae build-up, any of the fish seem listless or sick or damaged in any way, or they have fish poorly paired it's a good idea to not buy fish from there. And by look at all the fish, I mean all of them. Just because the tank holding the type of fish you want to buy look OK doesn't mean the rest of them are. If they don't take care of one tank, they're probably not taking very good care of the rest, either.
jenniepepsi
Jun 30, 2009, 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by joyluo1999
well as i mentioned i feed my fish red flake food and their poops are always red
hello? you still there?
I am really confused as to why there are a whole bunch of random squares in your posts...
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 02:53 PM
I had a 5 gallon tank with no filter. That fantail was the only fish left in that tank.
(The rest died from fin and tail rot.) The fantail was about one inch long, including the tail when it died. I got it from WAL-MART. (I know WAL-MART fish aren't the best.) I only had it for about 3 weeks but when I bought it they said it was a baby and was going to grow very fast.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 02:54 PM
Huh??
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 02:55 PM
I had a 5 gallon tank with no filter. That fantail was the only fish left in that tank.
(The rest died from fin and tail rot.) The fantail was about one inch long, including the tail when it died. I got it from WAL-MART. (I know WAL-MART fish aren't the best.) I only had it for about 3 weeks but when I bought it they said it was a baby and was going to grow very fast.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 02:56 PM
My computer got messed up so I had to go for a while
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 02:59 PM
goldfish are actually fairly fragile fish. they can become poisoned, and die, from the toxins their own bodies produce if their water isn't changed often enough. also, since they are fish, they don't usually have an incredibly long lifespan.
how big was the fish, in inches? how big was the tank, in gallons? did it have a filter system? how old was the fish? how long had you had it? where did you get it from?
the general rule is one inch of goldfish for every gallon of water in the tank. you should also be changing out half the water every month or so, and have a filter system in place. under gravel filters work best with goldfish.
where you get the fish can make a huge difference, too. there is usually no way of knowing how old a fish is when you buy it. many pet stores don't take very good care of their fish, especially smaller, less expensive fish, like goldfish. when you're looking at fish you should look at all of them. if there are dead fish in the tanks, the water seems unclean, there's algae build-up, any of the fish seem listless or sick or damaged in any way, or they have fish poorly paired it's a good idea to not buy fish from there. and by look at all the fish, i mean all of them. just because the tank holding the type of fish you want to buy look ok doesn't mean the rest of them are. if they don't take care of one tank, they're probably not taking very good care of the rest, either.
I had a 5 gallon tank with no filter. That fantail was the only fish left in that tank.
(The rest died from fin and tail rot.) The fantail was about one inch long, including the tail when it died. I got it from WAL-MART. (I know WAL-MART fish aren't the best.) I only had it for about 3 weeks but when I bought it they said it was a baby and was going to grow very fast.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 03:05 PM
huh???
Um my computer stopped working and I had to restart it.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 03:06 PM
i am really confused as to why there are a whole bunch of random squares in your posts....
Um my computer stopped working and I had to restart it.
hheath541
Jun 30, 2009, 03:29 PM
I had a 5 gallon tank with no filter. That fantail was the only fish left in that tank.
(The rest died from fin and tail rot.) The fantail was about one inch long, including the tail when it died. I got it from WAL-MART. (I know WAL-MART fish aren't the best.) I only had it for about 3 weeks but when I bought it they said it was a baby and was going to grow very fast.
Did you completely clean and/or treat the tank after the other fish died? It might have been the fin rot that killed your fantail. It's been known to effect the gills. It could have also been a bacterial or fungal infection from having dead fish in the tank.
It's best to clean a tank after an infection kills off fish. You can also buy tablets to drop into the tank that kill off the infection, and turn the water green for a couple weeks.
On a side note, the people who work in the walmart pet department know nothing of where their fish come from or their ages. Most of them know very little about fish at all.
It may have just been a small fantail to begin with. Fantails come in 3 sizes; small, medium, and large. Most fish reach full size in the first few weeks of their lives.
If you plan on getting any more fish I would suggest a full cleaning of the tank first, and the installation of a filter system. Drain out all the water. Wash any gravel or rocks you have at the bottom. Wash the tank itself.
Also, if you plan on getting more goldfish, you'll need to prep the tank. Goldfish needs certain chemicals in their water to thrive. Chemicals that their own bodies produce. It's best to get a few feeders to prep the tank. Just let them live in the tank for about a month before getting the fancier, and more expensive, goldfish.
joyluo1999
Jun 30, 2009, 03:39 PM
did you completely clean and/or treat the tank after the other fish died? it might have been the fin rot that killed your fantail. it's been known to effect the gills. it could have also been a bacterial or fungal infection from having dead fish in the tank.
it's best to clean a tank after an infection kills off fish. you can also buy tablets to drop into the tank that kill off the infection, and turn the water green for a couple weeks.
on a side note, the people who work in the walmart pet department know nothing of where their fish come from or their ages. most of them know very little about fish at all.
it may have just been a small fantail to begin with. fantails come in 3 sizes; small, medium, and large. most fish reach full size in the first few weeks of their lives.
if you plan on getting any more fish i would suggest a full cleaning of the tank first, and the installation of a filter system. drain out all the water. wash any gravel or rocks you have at the bottom. wash the tank itself.
also, if you plan on getting more goldfish, you'll need to prep the tank. goldfish needs certain chemicals in their water to thrive. chemicals that their own bodies produce. it's best to get a few feeders to prep the tank. just let them live in the tank for about a month before getting the fancier, and more expensive, goldfish.
Yes I did clean out the tank and put medication in to make sure the bacteria was gone and I also looked at the tail and it was normal. I really don't think it was fin and tail rot that killed my fish
hheath541
Jun 30, 2009, 03:41 PM
I doubt you'll ever figure out what killed it. I would just go with a thorough cleaning before putting any more fish in the tank, and installing a filter system.