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caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 03:00 PM
Guys I need help in English... I have to write passage from short story to explain one paragraph... just in four or five line... help me if you can... the story is The Bet by Anton Chekhov
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 03:13 PM
Which section of the story?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:09 PM
Anyone... does not matter
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:11 PM
Can you help me with that...
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 04:17 PM
Which paragraph?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:25 PM
Anyone... just one paragraph... just pick one..
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 04:26 PM
anyone...just one paragraph....just pick one..
Which one do YOU want to write about?
Alty
Jun 26, 2009, 04:26 PM
We can't do your homework for you. You have to put in some effort.
Tell us what you've got so far, then we'll go from there.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:30 PM
Its not about. My homework... I did one paragraph but I am not sure and I just want if someone do another paragraph for me anyone from here... so I can see my mistake and I can improve it... I just did it myself... I just want to know... help
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:31 PM
To wondergirl... whatever comfortable for you...
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 04:33 PM
its not abt. my homework...i did one paragraph but i am not sure and i just want if someone do another paragraph for me anyone from here...so i can see my mistake and i can improve it...i just did it myself...i just wanna know... help
Please post what you have written so far. I am not stupid enough to write a nice paragraph and then you disappear with my good writing. Btw, what I write would not show your mistake.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:38 PM
I feel like I wrote summary... I think that she does not want me do that... I am just confuse so I just want to see someone ans... so I can check mine... its my english assignment
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 04:41 PM
i feel like i wrote summary...i think that she does not want me do that...i am just confuse so i just wanna see someone ans....so i can check mine...its my english assignment
Please post what you have written.
Alty
Jun 26, 2009, 04:44 PM
Read the rules, we can't do your homework for you.
Post what you've written, then we can go from there.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:45 PM
"The Bet" is a short story that explores a moral theme regarding the value of human life. However, the story is constructed with an important ironic twist that brings the reader back to the original context of the bet (if the lawyer could endure solitary confinement for fifteen years), and presents an unexpected result. One can ultimately see that Anton Chekhov presents the readers with two different paths in the story. One of them is the banker, who refuses to face his own morality and the other is the lawyer (prisoner) who actually faces his own morality, but falls into despair because he is so disconnected from the outside world, even after gaining so much knowledge. These two characters may thrive on change, but they both alter their own human values in great ways.
I did this I don't think so I am right... I feel that she does not want this
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 04:53 PM
"The Bet" is a short story that explores a moral theme regarding the value of human life. However, the story is constructed with an important ironic twist that brings the reader back to the original context of the bet (if the lawyer could endure solitary confinement for fifteen years), and presents an unexpected result. One can ultimately see that Anton Chekhov presents the readers with two different paths in the story. One of them is the banker, who refuses to face his own morality and the other is the lawyer (prisoner) who actually faces his own morality, but falls into despair because he is so disconnected from the outside world, even after gaining so much knowledge. These two characters may thrive on change, but they both alter their own human values in great ways.
i did this i don't think so i am right...i feel that she does not want this
What is the exact assignment?
(Don't you mean "mortality," not "morality"? Big difference.)
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:55 PM
Yeah sorry... the assignment is like read short story choose paragraph or line and write about. It... its grade 12 English assignment
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 04:57 PM
yeah sorry...the assignment is like read short story choose paragraph or line and write abt. it...its grade 12 English assignment
So choose a paragraph or line, and I will help you write about it.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 04:58 PM
OK lets take first paragraph... you OK with that?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:00 PM
ok lets take first paragraph...you ok with that??
It's your assignment and your choice. I'm just along for the ride.
How much do you have to write, and with what purpose? To explain? To expound upon? What?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:00 PM
I understand the paragraph but what should I start to write?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:02 PM
i understand the paragraph but what should i start to write?
Like I asked, what are you supposed to be proving or saying in what you write? What's the point of what you are to write?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:04 PM
Its like one page... from the paragraph I have to tell meaning of words something like... I just need to analysis
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:07 PM
its like one page...from the paragraph i have to tell meaning of words something like...i just need to analysis
Sorry, that's not good enough. What is the assignment?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:10 PM
It is like analysis of paragraph... write paragraph in own word to describe that paragraph properly...
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:11 PM
it is like analysis of paragraph...write paragraph in own word to describe that paragraph properly...
"Like"??
What did the teacher actually say?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:12 PM
We have to explore the paragraph...
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:15 PM
it is like analysis of paragraph...write paragraph in own word to describe that paragraph properly...
Which? --
Rewrite the paragraph in your own words.
Analyze the paragraph as to contrasts, ambiguities, themes, why it's a topic sentence, etc.
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:16 PM
we have to explore the paragraph...
What the heck does that mean?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:16 PM
Yes... we have to do this... but I am so bad in that to do it so need your help..
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:17 PM
I just want to understand... how to do it.. if you help me with one paragraph than second one I will do it..
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:18 PM
Yes....we have to do this...but i am so bad in that to do it so need your help..
You need to start listening in class and writing things down.
Again, I ask --
Which? --
Rewrite the paragraph in your own words.
Analyze the paragraph as to contrasts, ambiguities, themes, why it's a topic sentence, etc.
Something else.
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:19 PM
I just want to understand...how to do it..if you help me with one paragraph than second one i will do it..
You have to do more than ONE??
What the heck is the assignment?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:21 PM
I know... tht what she said.. I heard it... we do not need to contrast... just need to analysis and rewrite
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:22 PM
i know...tht what she said..i heard it...we do not need to contrast...just need to analysis and rewrite
One paragraph?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:23 PM
You just one paragraph
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:24 PM
ya just one paragraph
Okay, you picked the first paragraph. What did you find out when you read it?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:27 PM
They talk about capital punishment and christan state...
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:28 PM
they talk abt capital punishment and christan state...
Hmmm. What else?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:30 PM
they talk abt capital punishment and christan state...
Please write in proper English, not in texting.
What does capital punishment have to do with "Christian States"?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:30 PM
Death penalty ought to be replaced everywhere by imprisonment for life. "I don't agree with you," said their host the banker. "I have not tried either the death penalty or imprisonment for life, but if one may judge a priori, the death penalty is more moral and more humane than imprisonment for life... LOOK BEING HONEST I AM NOT SO GOOD IN THIS... THTS WHY I WANT YOUR HELP... IF I DO ANY MISTAKE THAN I AM SORRY
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:32 PM
death penalty ought to be replaced everywhere by imprisonment for life. "I don't agree with you," said their host the banker. "I have not tried either the death penalty or imprisonment for life, but if one may judge a priori, the death penalty is more moral and more humane than imprisonment for life.....LOOK BEING HONEST I AM NOT SO GOOD IN THIS...THTS WHY I WANT YOUR HELP...IF I DO ANY MISTAKE THAN I AM SORRY
I want YOU to think!!
Tell me, what is capital punishment and what does it have to do with Christian States?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:36 PM
Death penalty and life imprisonment
.
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:36 PM
All right. Let's back up the bus.
The story starts with an old banker remembering a party he gave 15 years ago. Tell me who was at the party and what was being argued about.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:41 PM
He gave the party one autumn evening,they talk about. Capital punishment.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:43 PM
In the guest there were many journalist and intellectual men
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:43 PM
he gave the party one autumn evening,they talk abt. capital punishment.
Who is "they"?
What else did they talk about?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:44 PM
in the guest there were many journalist and intellectual men
So this was a smart group of men discussing very important topics.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:45 PM
They talk about. Death disapproved of death penalty.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:46 PM
Hey I don't understand this sentence They considered that form of punishment out of date, immoral, and unsuitable for Christian States. In the opinion of some of them the death penalty ought to be replaced everywhere by imprisonment for life.
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 05:48 PM
hey i don't understand this sentence They considered that form of punishment out of date, immoral, and unsuitable for Christian States. In the opinion of some of them the death penalty ought to be replaced everywhere by imprisonment for life.
Christian States believe in the Bible. What does the Bible say about the death penalty (capital punishment)?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:54 PM
By imprisonment for life.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 05:55 PM
Can u tell me what is imprisonment meaning?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:08 PM
can u tell me what is imprisonment meaning??
imprisonment for life = being in jail for the rest of your life
It would help if I know what country you live in and what language you speak as a native.
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:10 PM
Do you understand what the other term means -- capital punishment?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:10 PM
I am living in greek... I have to submit in next half an hour... thx for your help... I note all the point which you told me...
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:12 PM
Can you make this paragraph in your own words... I will make it too than I will check it mine too... last favor... thank you so much
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:17 PM
The banker had given a party 15 years ago. At the party were smart, well-educated men who disagreed about capital punishment and life imprisonment. Most seemed to believe life imprisonment was to be preferred, especially by Christian countries that believe in the Bible. The death penalty means to kill someone, and God tells us in His commandments not to kill. Life imprisonment would be the kinder way to punish criminals.
This is not an analysis. It is only a rewriting of that paragraph.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:20 PM
Thank you so much... I wrote little bit like this... than you so much... can you tell me your real name
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:21 PM
thank you so much...i wrote little bit like this...than you so much...can you tell me your real name
What did you write? Or did you copy what I wrote?
Why my real name?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:22 PM
thank you so much...i wrote little bit like this...than you so much...can you tell me your real name
Where are you right now? What time is it?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:31 PM
Just like that I want to know your name... I want to remember you because you helped me and make me learn how to do it? I mention in guest there were many journalist and intellectual name but that sentence you define so well... can I know your name now?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:40 PM
just like that i wanna know your name....i want to remember you because you helped me and make me learn how to do it? i mention in guest there were many journalist and intellectual name but that sentence you define so well...can i know ur name now?
Now, copy and paste here what you wrote, and I will tell you my real first name.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:43 PM
Copy and paste... what want me to do copy... I will do anything to know your real name... lolz
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:44 PM
copy and paste...what want me to do copy...i will do anything to know your real name...lolz
Copy and paste what you wrote for your assignment.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:48 PM
OK I did now tell me your name... and country you belong
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 06:55 PM
ok i did now tell me your name....and country you belong
I don't see it anywhere. Where did you paste it?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:55 PM
Heyyy why you are taking so much time to telling me your name...
Clough
Jun 26, 2009, 06:59 PM
I don't see it anywhere. Where did you paste it?
I don't see anything either, Wondergirl!
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 06:59 PM
OK I have to make 200 words.. so I am working on it... I took your lines and rest is mine... ok here you go.
"The Bet" is a short story by Anton Cheknov, The banker had given a party 15 years ago. At the party were smart, well-educated men who disagreed about capital punishment and life imprisonment. Most seemed to believe life imprisonment was to be preferred, especially by Christian countries who believe in the Bible. The death penalty means to kill someone, and God tells us in His commandments not to kill. Life imprisonment would be the kinder way to punish criminals. Banker argued that capital punishment is more humane than life imprisonment, while the young lawyer disagreed, insisting that he would choose life in prison rather than death. The banker, a spoiled and pampered man, is very nervous and gets himself carried away by excitement at the time he makes a bet with the lawyer.
I AM STLL Writing ON IT AS I HAVE TO WRITE 200 WORDS
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 07:00 PM
ok i have to make 200 words..so i am working on it...i took your lines and rest is mine...ok here you go.
"The Bet" is a short story by Anton Cheknov, The banker had given a party 15 years ago. At the party were smart, well-educated men who disagreed about capital punishment and life imprisonment. Most seemed to believe life imprisonment was to be preferred, especially by Christian countries who believe in the Bible. The death penalty means to kill someone, and God tells us in His commandments not to kill. Life imprisonment would be the kinder way to punish criminals. Banker argued that capital punishment is more humane than life imprisonment, while the young lawyer disagreed, insisting that he would choose life in prison rather than death. The banker, a spoiled and pampered man, is very nervous and gets himself carried away by excitement at the time he makes a bet with the lawyer.
I AM STLL WRITTING ON IT AS I HAVE TO WRITE 200 WORDS
So you stole my words.
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 07:03 PM
ok i have to make 200 words..so i am working on it...i took your lines and rest is mine...ok here you go.
"The Bet" is a short story by Anton Cheknov, The banker had given a party 15 years ago. At the party were smart, well-educated men who disagreed about capital punishment and life imprisonment. Most seemed to believe life imprisonment was to be preferred, especially by Christian countries who believe in the Bible. The death penalty means to kill someone, and God tells us in His commandments not to kill. Life imprisonment would be the kinder way to punish criminals. Banker argued that capital punishment is more humane than life imprisonment, while the young lawyer disagreed, insisting that he would choose life in prison rather than death. The banker, a spoiled and pampered man, is very nervous and gets himself carried away by excitement at the time he makes a bet with the lawyer.
I AM STLL WRITTING ON IT AS I HAVE TO WRITE 200 WORDS
You started this thread by saying, "i have to write passage from short story to explain one paragraph." Now you are discussing the second paragraph, plus you stole what I had written in trying to explain to you what was going on in the first paragraph. All you are doing so far is putting Chekov into your own words (and mine). Is that the assignment?
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 07:05 PM
I AM STLL WRITTING ON IT AS I HAVE TO WRITE 200 WORDS
Why didn't you tell me this when I asked what is the assignment? Is having to write "200 words" a secret?
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 07:05 PM
I know its not perfect but I did copy and paste because I want to know your name
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 07:07 PM
I just got to know... my friend told me till now I was knowing about just one paragraph... belive me... why would I do that... if you want I will remove your words...
Clough
Jun 26, 2009, 07:09 PM
I remember many months ago that someone asked a question about writing a ternary form composition for a college assignment. No problem for me!
We worked very hard on it. I don't know why he was given such an assignment because through interrogatory discovery, it became very evident that he didn't know all that much about music writing at all.
I fairly certain that he plagiarized the work that I did as he never responded to questions I asked after the piece was finished.
I don't mind if people use the music that I write for them to have some sort of pleasure, but to steal my work to make them look good for an assignment... well, that's just plain wrong and dishonest!
Please show your own efforts with what you do for your school work.
Thanks!
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 07:09 PM
Do not worry I will remove your words... I am sorry
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 07:09 PM
i just got to know...my friend told me till now i was knowing abt just one paragraph...belive me...why would i do that...if you want i will remove your words...
You have to analyze one paragraph or the entire story?
I want YOU to do the assignment, and I'm still not sure what that is.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 07:11 PM
To Clough... I am being honest thts why I told her I include her words... rest of the line is mine... I just ask her how to begin,I learn something and I work on that... I am not dishonest I will remove her words...
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 07:13 PM
To wondergirl I am being honest that I include your words because it was good... I learn it... I did not only copy... but it is OK.. I will remove it... I just wanted to know your name because you helped me and learn something... if I hurt you than I am sorry
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 07:16 PM
to wondergirl i am being honest that i include your words because it was good...i learn it...i did not only copy...but it is ok..i will remove it...i just wanted to know your name because you helped me and learn something...if i hurt u than i am sorry
I went to school for many years and did my own work. My work is always good.
I want you to understand the assignment and also understand the short story. The first paragraph sets the scene and gives a sort of thesis statement.
Clough
Jun 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Thank you for your exlanations and apologies, caroash09!
For you to engage someone here who can help you the best, it's just like school and you need to show the work that you've done for your teacher on the site.
Alsol, if you're going to learn how to write in English, please avoid using the chat speak.
Thanks!
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 07:20 PM
Thank you guys... from now I will understand all my work... I am not just saying because I am here... but I will do my work by myself
Thanks
Clough
Jun 26, 2009, 07:28 PM
You can of course post your work here without any risk of being embarrassed. We are here to help. Some of us here have been teachers in schools and in other places for a very long time.
Thanks!
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 07:31 PM
thank you guys.......from now i will understand all my work...i am not just saying because i am here...but i will do my work by myself
Thanks
Stop being huffy! We want YOU to learn. I've learned all this already. I do not want you to copy what I write, but learn from what I write. We will be happy to help, but only HELP! Not do your work for you so you can copy.
Clough
Jun 26, 2009, 07:35 PM
I do understand what you mean by being "huffy", Wondergirl. But, that is English slang and I would appreciate an explanation from to for caroash09 as to what it means.
Again, we are here to help you, caroash09, and are glad to do so!
Thanks!
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 07:39 PM
I do understand what you mean by being "huffy", Wondergirl. But, that is English slang and I would appreciate an explanation from to for caroash09 as to what it means.
Again, we are here to help you, caroash09, and are glad to do so!
Thanks!
huffy = like a chicken who fluffs and ruffles her feathers when she has been pushed off her nest
Context should help too.
caroash09
Jun 26, 2009, 08:01 PM
OK I said sorry.. I ask for apologize... you keep saying I copy your words... but learn than I did it... I being honest told you the truth.. you learnt everything and I am learning...
Wondergirl
Jun 26, 2009, 08:03 PM
ok i said sorry..i ask for apologize...you keep saying i copy your words...but learn than i did it...i being honest told you the truth..you learnt everything and i am learning....
So what have you written? Please post it.
Clough
Jun 26, 2009, 08:04 PM
ok i said sorry..i ask for apologize...you keep saying i copy your words...but learn than i did it...i being honest told you the truth..you learnt everything and i am learning....
Well, how about continuing your work here?
Thanks!