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GShelton
Jun 18, 2009, 01:13 PM
OK, a few questions: (I did not want to start separate threads. Maybe I should have?)


Q1: What is/are the proper method(s) for securing larger NM such as 6-3 with ground? Do they make staples for this?


(OK, so that was 2 questions.. )


Q2: I am using Carlon Super Blue (http://www.carlon.com/SC/SC_Blue5.html) boxes (residential.) The single gang boxes do not have the "tab" that secures the wire. Instead it has a little square held on by 2 spots. Am I supposed to turn this and push the wire in, or am I to knock this out? Also, if I knock out the wrong one, what is a legal way to cover that hole to satisfy NEC 110.12(A)?


Thanks in advance.

tkrussell
Jun 18, 2009, 01:44 PM
My answers are in red:


OK, a few questions: (I did not want to start separate threads. Maybe I should have?)


Q1: What is/are the proper method(s) for securing larger NM such as 6-3 with ground?

Support NM cable 12 inches from each box or fitting, and then no more than every 4.5 ft.

Do they make staples for this?

Yes, see:
Briscon Electric Manufacturing Corp. makers of electrical supplies (http://www.brisconelectric.com/)


(OK, so that was 2 questions..)


Q2: I am using Carlon Super Blue (http://www.carlon.com/SC/SC_Blue5.html) boxes (residential.) The single gang boxes do not have the "tab" that secures the wire. Instead it has a little square held on by 2 spots. Am I supposed to turn this and push the wire in, or am I to knock this out? Also, if I knock out the wrong one, what is a legal way to cover that hole to satisfy NEC 110.12(A)?

Find you box here and install per instructions:
Carlon Electrical Products (http://www.carlon.com/Electrical.html)

I think you have this one:
http://www.carlon.com/Installation_Training/IT-2B1-Install-Low.pdf

Yes, twist out the knockout. I do not think they make a knockout blank for these, so be careful, try not to have to many unused openings. No inspector ever had an issue with a unused KO with these, that I know of.
Probably because the openings are so small. Try to avoid any as there is no approved method of closing them.



Thanks in advance.

GShelton
Jun 18, 2009, 01:59 PM
Thank you!

The PDF from Carlon (horrible install guide if you ask me. LOL!) shows the box details in the second row, 3rd from the left. It says knockout, so I will go with you on that. (Good thing because I did knock them out. LOL!)

As for the staples, I do see on that site they have a 1-3/8" long 13/16" wide that is rated for the 6-3. The ones I have are not long enough and just pull out. Off to the supply house for me.

Thanks again!