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xadmin
Jun 11, 2009, 11:23 AM
My girlfriend recently broke up with me and I need advice on what to do. Stay and try to win her back or to leave.

My girlfriend and I have been together for 3 years. She is attractive, intelligent, educated, likes music and dancing. We met while she was an undergraduate in college and I was a 1st year medical student. She is currently 24 and I am 27. I was her first boyfriend ever and she was my 2nd girlfriend.

The first year of the relationship was great. We saw each other through rose tinted glasses. But as time passes, we saw more of each other flaws and annoyances and the relationship became more rocky. In the three years that we dated, I discovered that my girlfriend is a "clean freak". She spent a lot of time washing her hands and often asked me if my hands are clean whenever I did something like touching her or her hair. During many erotic encounters, she would stopped to ask me if I had washed my hands. Even if I had washed them, she would smell my hands to make sure I had used soaps. After we have (safe) sex, she would put on her pajamas before we can cuddle to fall asleep in the warm bed and tell me to go wash myself so that I don't stain her bed or get my sperm on her body (she is obsessed about getting pregnant). She does not seem particularly high-strung, but this pattern of anxiety strikes me as really weird. I do not enjoy it. Throughout our 3 years of being together, most of the sex we do were oral. Intercourse happened only 40-50 times total throughout the 3 years with most of it being in the first year. At first I did not like it that we have sex so rarely, but over time I put up with it and got used to it. Still, I was not happy with our sex life and the fact that she doesn't really consider my needs sexually.

I am a very caring person, but my girlfriend seems a little self-centered and not very affectionate. For example, whenever she is tired, I would ask how she is doing and give her body massages or make her hot chocolate. However, if I was tired, she would acknowledge it, but do nothing. I would often tuck her into bed by giving her a 30 minutes massage before she fall asleep, but she has never done the same for me. I would at time make her breakfast in the morning before she goes to work or offer her a hug or a kiss, but she doesn't do the same unless I ask for them (these things get worse and worse as the relationship progresses). Furthermore, there is an imbalance in the generosity department throughout our 3 years of dating. I happily take her out for lots of nice dinners in restaurants, which she clearly enjoys -- while she gives me tea, bread and ham in her refrigerator. I did this when I didn't even have a job or stable income while she was working with a decent salary. She had never taken me out to a nice restaurant. The two time that we went out to a nice restaurant, her parents took us. For Christmas, I gave her a nice sweater, Godiva Chocolate and nice earrings; I got a shirt. (I don't put much importance in the money, it's the care and consideration.) On the other hand, I should emphasize that she does seem very kind on a moment-to-moment basis -- Asking for my opinion at times and ready to offer me a hug and a cup of tea.

Recently, I withdrew from medical school to pursue other opportunities (I plan to go back and finish up medical school, but she doesn't know that). However, I don't think she like this idea. I am currently looking for a job and I still haven't found one and I moved to the same city as she is in (Boston) to work on our relationship more, but when I moved to Boston, she broke up with me. It couldn't have come at a worse time, when I have no job or school. We still hang out and she is jealous if I see other girls, but at the same time, she doesn't want to be with me. She said she is not in love with me anymore.

Right now I am just thinking of either throwing in the towel to end this relationship or try to win her back. I have thought long and hard about it and I think I should let her go and move on myself because I don't see this relationship as healthy for me. But every time I think about her in another guy's arm, I get jealous and I have trouble letting her go. I even snooped in her Facebook account and found out that she had been talking and going out with a guy two months prior to our break up. They were holding hands while going out dancing and to the movies with each other. I confronted her about this and she said they were "just friends". I told her that friends don't hold hands with each other and she said they do. I don't know, but this doesn't seem right. Then she got furious at me for getting her Facebook password and snooping on her. Am I wrong here for snooping? The reason I did this is because I had a hunch that she had an emotional affair with some guy and it was confirmed after I read her message exhanges between the guy and her on Facebook.

Anyway, what should I do and help.

Eelarch
Jun 11, 2009, 11:28 AM
If she broke up with just move on, she had her reasons, ignore those reasons and continue with life and don't waste your time trying to get her back

jmooney527
Jun 11, 2009, 11:40 AM
She doesn't seem like a very nice person from the way you depicted her. I think you know the answer to your question... you should not try to win her back. Of course post breakup you will get jealous of her seeing someone else... it's normal. Try to stay away from her and see the NC sticky in the main section for how to do so. You know the relationship won't work out so don't bother trying so hard, when clearly she doesn't care. You need a certain level of love and attention, and she wasn't giving that to you at all. You can't expect her to change so start going out, having some fun, and keep yourself busy. Best of luck!

justaguy123
Jun 11, 2009, 12:14 PM
I don't know how much advice I can give, I'm going through a breakup right now and my mind might be cloudy.

Personally it sounds like you have already admitted it's over. Being in a relationship for that long, it's almost impossible to walk away and you cannot make excuses to stay together. You pointed out several reasons YOU are unhappy and they're pretty big reasons. You need to stop snooping, it's only going to make you more jealous. She has a right to be upset about this. If anything can be restored here, whether it's a friendship or something more, it cannot be successful if there are things you hold against the other. I know it seems impossible to not worry or wonder what is going on in their personal life, but it seems best that you just let it go for awhile. You ultimately know what is going to make you happy, but if I can tell you anything... you shouldn't have to change someone to be happy with them. I wish you all the best... it sucks right (I know!)... but I have reason to believe life will get better.

Romefalls19
Jun 11, 2009, 12:38 PM
Didn't even read the post, just the title. Leave, never wait or try to win anyone back. If they want to come back, they know how to find you.

talaniman
Jun 12, 2009, 08:55 AM
Right now I am just thinking of either throwing in the towel to end this relationship or try to win her back.

Throw in the towel and get someone who makes you happy.

Hell, you should be happy your rid of her, as this sounds to one way to be real. I'm surprised you put up with that BS for... years??

She ain't worth it.

liz28
Jun 12, 2009, 09:18 AM
How you put up with her for 3 years is beyond me. You seem to be really unhappy but still stayed and tolerating her bs--this is called settling.

You compromise a lot and did everything to make her happy while she didn't give a damn about your needs--only hers. This relationship was really one sided because you did everything for including spendind money you didn't have on her and giving up your schooling to move near her.

Your must bet is to move on and don't beg nor chase after her. Pick yourself back up and go back to school to finish what you started.

This girl isn't worth it and you could do and deserve better.

xadmin
Jun 12, 2009, 11:53 AM
Thanks guys. Yeah sometimes I wonder why I put it up for years. I guess I was just settling

kp2171
Jun 12, 2009, 12:05 PM
Don't chase another person.

Chase your dream.

If that's med school, do it now. It won't get easier in time.

I'm begging you...

I spent way too much time chasing the "right person" instead of completing myself... better to do the latter... follow what you need for yourself, and then the right person will fit into that position...

xadmin
Jun 12, 2009, 01:12 PM
dont chase another person.

chase your dream.

if thats med school, do it now. it wont get easier in time.

im begging you...

i spent way too much time chasing the "right person" instead of completing myself... better to do the latter... follow what you need for yourself, and then the right person will fit into that position...


Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I should complete myself.

kp2171
Jun 12, 2009, 01:30 PM
Uhm...

Well...

If I have any "good" advice to give its most likely cause I've been in your place (or close to it) and screwed it up...

Don't worry about your hesitation or your concern and wondering...

Most of the time, if you get good advice here its because we have made similar mistakes... and hope that you will be "smarter" than us...

jmjoseph
Jun 12, 2009, 01:51 PM
Don't waste any more time on this girl. She sounds strange and selfish. There are many more girls out there more like your type. Go back to medical school, the longer you wait, the harder it's going to be getting back in the groove. Concentrate on your studies and forget her. I know it's hard, but you'll look back one day thinking: whaaaaaaat? Good luck and GOD bless.

xadmin
Jun 12, 2009, 03:16 PM
uhm...

well...

if i have any "good" advice to give its most likely cause ive been in your place (or close to it) and screwed it up...

dont worry about your hesitation or your concern and wondering...

most of the time, if you get good advice here its because we hace made similar mistakes... and hope that you will be "smarter" than us...

Well, I am definitely not smarter. I just want to learn from other people experience. I have trouble getting over her and it hurts just to think that she treats me like this for the past few years. I am trying to move on and it is still hard.

Is your circumstance similar to mine?

TrueFaith
Jun 12, 2009, 09:02 PM
She broke up with you. And honestly my friend it sounds like you put up with a Lot of things that did not make you happy

And you are trying to justify yourself by stretching her good points when you know there was not that many.

Yes it was nice was it felt safe and yes it was easy

But we all don’t have to stick to someone just because it’s easy.

It sounds like you was not that happy with her.. at all. And it sounds like she was a very different person to who you are.

I personally think this is a very good thing to happen to you.
Yes it hurts at first
But don’t let your own pride blind you to the fact that you was never really happy with this women.

Your feeling hurt
Your feeling like you was used
Your feeling that you gave more than she did

And you know what.. you are probable right in most of it
People don’t set out to use or hurt other people..

We let others treat us how we want.

Some people would have had an issue with her to start with they would have gone OK.. imp off or this is not working
You wanted to stay and try it out.. and good on you.. for doing so.
It’s easy to walk away.
So I wouldn’t regret this.. relationship I would put it down to a learning case more than anything

As you was her first boyfriend.. she has no idea what a real relationship is about.
So yes she was self centered
And yes she could get away with it. Because you let her.

Nothing wrong in that. But again I can’t stress this enough you guys are very different.

So don’t feel guilty this is not your fault. Nothing you could have done or said differently
Would have changed this outcome

It’s so easy to look back and go I should have and could have
But us as humans act the best we can with the knowledge that we are given at the time.

Good luck

All the best

Regards

xadmin
Jun 12, 2009, 09:50 PM
TrueFaith,

Thanks for the words of encouragement. The things that you said help me to put my situation in a more realistic perspective.

TrueFaith
Jun 13, 2009, 01:07 AM
No problem my friend I have been there :)

Got the t-shirt used it. Then sold it

Then found it on my door a week later ;)


All the best

xadmin
Jun 13, 2009, 03:56 PM
No problem my friend i have been there :)

got the t-shirt used it. then sold it

then found it on my door a week later ;)


All the best

So the person came back to you?

xadmin
Jul 3, 2009, 10:32 AM
Threads merged

My ex girlfriend of 3 years saw a message I posted here and got really angry. She broke up with me 2 months ago and I am currently trying to reconcile with her.

The message I posted was under another thread dealing with the topic of whether ex ever regret dumping or moving on from their partner and whether the grass is greener on the other side. I posted my experience saying:

"I was with my ex GF for 5 years and then I broke up with her. Then I dated someone else for 3 years. To tell you the truth. I do regret dumping my 1st GF of 5 years. The grass is not greener on the other side. It's just different (and in my case, less green on the other side).

Would I go back to my old GF of 5 years? Who knows, but I rather let time pass or date other before I make that decision. However, my old GF of 5 years was the best I ever had and I doubt I will meet somebody like her again."


So basically, she was browsing through my webpages' history and saw the message I copied from above and now she is mad at me saying in these past 3 years that we have been together, she was being used and I was just with her for convenience. She turned herself into the victim and I suddenly become the bad guy.

Is it a good thing that she saw my posting and my true feeling or will this posting be another reason and tool for her to justify why it is right for her to break up with me?

slapshot_oi
Jul 3, 2009, 10:35 AM
Unless you posted the original under a different username, she'll find this too. Actually, that doesn't matter because you quoted the exact post.

So with that, you probably should just ask her.

xadmin
Jul 3, 2009, 10:42 AM
We talked, but she interpret this to the extreme and she plays the victim here. So we did talk and all she said was that all this time (3 years) she was being played and used.

57373
Jul 3, 2009, 10:42 AM
No if I was your ex I wouldn't care,if she has half a brain she would know you had more history with your previous ex and I (assume) she was your first love,you don't just forget that.

Now if you had been obsessing about an ex you dated a week over 3 years... then yeah... she has every right to lable you an idiot.

jmjoseph
Jul 3, 2009, 10:43 AM
If she's your ex, she shouldn't be looking through your stuff. She broke up with you. I think you should move to pasture #3, regardless of what shade of green the grass is, you should find happiness regardless. The world is full of possibilties, don't get bogged down. Good luck.

anewday
Jul 3, 2009, 11:30 AM
It is a bit bizarre that she'd be looking through your web history. You were together for 3 years though, so she's probably a bit confused and wondering what you've been "up to". If you're moving on fast, already seeing someone else, etc.

She did break up with you originally though, and this just gives her more reason to justify that break.

I wish
Jul 3, 2009, 11:35 AM
The grass is not greener on the other side. It's just different (and in my case, less green on the other side).

That line already tells me that you should not be reconciling with her. I suggest that you let her go. It's going to take a lot of work for you to regain her trust and you don't even seem that interested in her, otherwise you wouldn't have said that.

Moving forward, you've got two options:

1) If your ex is who you want, then try to reconcile with her. BUT unless you guys can fix the problems that made you break up in the first place, don't bother opening up old wounds.

2) Realize that you broke up with both girls for a reason and move on with your life. No more looking back. No more wondering if you made the right decision on breaking up or not trying harder to fix things. It's done. Learn from your mistakes and move forward.

Either way, stop living in the past, live in the present and focus on the future.

I wish
Jul 3, 2009, 11:37 AM
It is a bit bizarre that she'd be looking through your web history.

Good observation. It sounds like the relationship was in trouble before she even found out about the forum post. It sounds like the trust was beginning to deteriorate and finding the post was just the last straw for her to break up with him.

talaniman
Jul 3, 2009, 12:03 PM
Is it a good thing that she saw my posting and my true feeling or will this posting be another reason and tool for her to justify why it is right for her to break up with me?
Seems that's the way she took it, another reason to break up, but that's what she was looking for any way. Its good you know how she reacts, and even better to know your honest feelings, she doesn't measure up to your other ex.

Your mistake the way I see it, is trying to reconcile with someone who doesn't measure up, which sounds like your settling for less, and letting your ex find out the truth the way she did. Dude, you never let a female snoop when you know good, and well you have stuff you didn't want her to see.

Thats like leaving another females underwear where they can be found.

Of course she is mad, now what??

xadmin
Jul 3, 2009, 12:06 PM
Good observation. It sounds like the relationship was in trouble before she even found out about the forum post. It sounds like the trust was beginning to deteriorate and finding the post was just the last straw for her to break up with him.

No, she broke up with my for two months already (April) and just yesterday looked through my web history to see what I have been up to and she found that I posted here regarding the whether the grass is greener on the other side.

Noticed that my thread was merged

xadmin
Jul 3, 2009, 12:16 PM
Seems thats the way she took it, another reason to break up, but thats what she was looking for any way. Its good you know how she reacts, and even better to know your honest feelings, she doesn't measure up to your other ex.

Your mistake the way I see it, is trying to reconcile with someone who doesn't measure up, which sounds like your settling for less, and letting your ex find out the truth the way she did. Dude, you never let a female snoop when you know good, and well you have stuff you didn't want her to see.

Thats like leaving another females underwear where they can be found.

Of course she is mad, now what???

Well I didn't have anything to hide really. I was just posting a response on here to another topic someone came up with regarding if the grass was greener on the other side and offered my own personal view. To this note, I didn't think somebody would snoop through my computer because she broke up with me for 2 months already, but I still haven't let go. Maybe she hasn't either or is just confused and that is why she still look through my computer to see what I was doing. Well she found out what I said about the greener grass with my first GF of 5 years and now she played the victim saying that in all these years dating my 2nd GF, I didn't appreciate her and still think of my first GF as greener grass.

So I don't know the fact that my 2nd ex-GF of 3 years saw this message by going through my history that it is a good thing or bad thing. I mean we end the relationship without violence or saying hurtful things to each other (but I am still not quite over her), so I don't want to add more bad experience to our ending and this greener grass message might not be appropriate for her to see?

talaniman
Jul 3, 2009, 01:27 PM
She had no business snooping through your computer history, in the first place, It was done intentionally to find something.

You ready to let go yet, and give up this insane notion of friends, or whatever you think your doing??

If your not, you will run your head into the same brick wall again.

sully123
Jul 3, 2009, 03:13 PM
I agree with Tal, move on. She had no business looking through your computer. Go back to medical school and leave her in the dust. IT sounds like you have a lot to offer a person from within yourself. Go back to your medical school and believe me you will find someone out there, who will appreciate you. Good luck.

xadmin
Jul 3, 2009, 03:49 PM
I am currently focusing on myself and try to better myself. I feel hurt that things gotten like this.

s_cianci
Jul 3, 2009, 03:54 PM
Click your heels and walk away.

xadmin
Jul 3, 2009, 04:53 PM
Click your heels and walk away.

How do you handle the hurt that she is with other guys?

anewday
Jul 4, 2009, 10:13 AM
How do you handle the hurt that she is with other guys?

Tear yourself apart. Think of everything that they're doing.
To quote "High Fidelity": 'You are as abandoned and noisy as any character in a porn film, Laura. You are Ian's plaything, responding to his touch with shrieks of orgasmic delight. No woman in the history of the world is having better sex than sex you are having with Ian... in my head. '
Then realise that you did those things with her. Probably better too. That you'll do those same things (if not better) with other people. That you did similar things with people before her. Yes, they're coveting her body, but you're already a hundred steps ahead of them. Because she broke up with you, you've probably analysed her more than she's ever done in her entire life.

xadmin
Jul 4, 2009, 10:51 AM
Tear yourself apart. Think of everything that they're doing.
To quote "High Fidelity": 'You are as abandoned and noisy as any character in a porn film, Laura. You are Ian's plaything, responding to his touch with shrieks of orgasmic delight. No woman in the history of the world is having better sex than sex you are having with Ian... in my head. '
Then realise that you did those things with her. Probably better too. That you'll do those same things (if not better) with other people. That you did similar things with people before her. Yes, they're coveting her body, but you're already a hundred steps ahead of them. Because she broke up with you, you've probably analysed her more than she's ever done in her entire life.


You know, it hurts so bad, but I do think it is time for me to move on.

jmjoseph
Jul 4, 2009, 11:04 AM
How do you handle the hurt that she is with other guys?

It takes time , always has, always will. Try to remember all the strange habits, selfish ways, basically all the bad things that you've mentioned. As far as her with other guys, just be glad that it's not you putting up with all those things. Let her ruin someone else's life. Wash your hands of her ( yes that was a pun). Now go out and meet yourself a nice, normal girl, and be happy in your life. Good luck to you.

xadmin
Jul 4, 2009, 11:11 AM
It takes time , always has, always will. Try to remember all the strange habits, selfish ways, basically all the bad things that you've mentioned. As far as her with other guys, just be glad that it's not you putting up with all those things. Let her ruin someone else's life. Wash your hands of her ( yes that was a pun). Now go out and meet yourself a nice, normal girl, and be happy in your life. Good luck to you.

Thank you for your advice. It still hurts when things are like this with her and I.

xadmin
Jul 27, 2009, 01:13 AM
Gosh guys, I am a wreak here. I still can't get over my EX. I don't know what to do.

It seems she is not fit for me, but somehow I am just so attached and couldn't accept the thought that someone would dump me that I still latch on to her hoping that we might reconcile.

I need to love myself and learn to move on and be alone, but I am really having problem doing this. Any help would be appreciated.

kctiger
Jul 27, 2009, 07:20 AM
Gosh guys, I am a wreak here. I still can't get over my EX. I don't know what to do.

It seems she is not fit for me, but somehow I am just so attached and couldn't accept the thought that someone would dump me that I still latch on to her hoping that we might reconcile.

I need to love myself and learn to move on and be alone, but I am really having problem doing this. Any help would be appreciated.

You just HAVE to do it... move on, build a new life. It is really liberating once you accept, and I mean ACCEPT that this is over forever. That is the hardest part, so once that is done, you are on your way.

Write a list of things down and accomplish some goals that you thought you never would have achieved. Make each day count man! Seriously, you are free to do whatever you want, so find out what makes YOU happy as a person, and go for it.