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lavendar35
May 17, 2009, 01:35 PM
First off, let me say that I have a mild case of OCD... I become quickly obsessed about trivial matters and destroy myself mentally thinking about it, until I take a deep breath and occupy myself... only to have the thoughts come back a little while later.

My boyfriend of a year and a half dumped me about a month ago. Being my first boyfriend, he knew I was very inexperienced and thought the only way he could educate me on sex was to constantly ask for oral sex starting from the very first MONTH of dating. I should have ran and never looked back at that point when I could have, but I didn't and stayed and kept refusing to have intercourse or perform oral for him.

It kept getting worse and worse.. he would threaten to leave me, he would constantly tell me he was scoping other girls out "wondering if they could please him" unlike me, he would call me a child, accuse me of having psychological issues (oh, the irony) and he would say that "we're not a normal couple" and that all the problems in the relationship were my fault, and my inability to be physical with him. Anyway, after a year and a half of putting up with his crap, I caved. I was doing hand jobs, but I attempted oral multiple times for about a minute or two, stopping due to feelings of guilt and regret every time. He would comfort me saying that it was okay because I was new at this, but during arguments he would always make fun of my "2 minute blow jobs". If you're wondering why I didn't leave, it was because I was, and still am, extremely insecure and I was very attached to him... I know that's no excuse, but it's the best one I have.

So he ended up dumping me, saying that had "spoken to others about our relationship and that they had felt sorry" for him, for not "getting any" for a year and half. Now, I'm left here with myself and my own thoughts. I wish I had never even attempted those "2 minute blow jobs".. it is making me feel like crap... I've read some responses on this forum with people saying that "sex is sex" and that some wouldn't consider me a virgin anymore. I am Iranian, and in my culture virginity is a huge deal (culturally, religiously, who knows why a piece of tissue is such a huge deal?), and although I am agnostic myself, I feel like a virgin man in the future will be hesitant once I admit to performing oral... but then again, I wouldn't want to be with a man like that to begin with, but it still scares me to think about it. I wish I had never gotten naked for my ex, never given him the "2 minute blow jobs".. I feel extremely guilty, why do I feel like this and what can I do? Thanks a lot for reading my post.

artlady
May 17, 2009, 01:56 PM
I assume that you feel guilty because you were more or less forced to do something you did not feel comfortable with.

It is called emotional blackmail and he was very wrong to push you this way.

He has made you feel this way by his selfish and demeaning comments.

Do not give him that power.

Unless there was penetration,I would say,you are indeed a virgin.
You are also lucky to be rid of someone who would want you to forget your values for his pleasure.

liz28
May 17, 2009, 03:03 PM
I agree with Artlady.

You should never do something you don't want to do and this includes being pressure to things.

I am glad you left but wished it was sooner than later. This guy only wanted sex and didn't respect your decision to stay a virgin.

Please never stay with someone like him.

In order for you to not be a virgin, his penis had to actually go into your vagina. It doesn't matter if it was a quarter or half way in. Once it was in your no longer was a virgin.

I respect your you decided to stay a virgin and there are guys out there that would respect your wishes to.

Fr_Chuck
May 17, 2009, 03:07 PM
You learn an important lesson about not doing anything you don't feel good about doing

So you learn that a boy that really cares for you will never ask or make you do something you don't want.

bronzebabe
May 17, 2009, 04:55 PM
He's a user. If you had sex with him, he would have left you and told bad things, lies, about you. You need to learn that guys like him, are bad. Don't ever bother with him again. he is scum, and not worth another thought.

ScottGem
May 17, 2009, 05:06 PM
If there was no penile penetration then you are a virgin.

The only guilt you should feel at what you did is for allowing yourself to be used by him. But you did nothing wrong. Sexually gratifying an adult partner through manual and oral stimualtion is not wrong as long as there is mutual consent.

This guy is a loser who used you until he got what he wanted then dumped you. I see no reason to tell any future partners you have what you did before them.

Gemini54
May 17, 2009, 07:33 PM
This guy was a bully and a sleaze. His constant harassment put you into the position of doing things against your better judgement.

Two minute blow jobs are just that. Two minute blow jobs. They are not sexual intercourse and you are still a virgin.

Congratulations for not giving into his demands, imagine how much worse you would feel if you had. You should be proud that you listened to your instincts on this one.

You say you stayed because you were insecure and attached to him - I have to ask, why did he stay so long if he wasn't getting what he wanted? Perhaps he enjoyed bullying you?

lavendar35
May 17, 2009, 08:07 PM
You say you stayed because you were insecure and attached to him - I have to ask, why did he stay so long if he wasn't getting what he wanted? Perhaps he enjoyed bullying you?

He said he had loved me and although it was nothing like the love that someone can imagine, I honestly think it was HIS way of loving... he honestly thought with love comes sex (which to an extent is true, if no partner abuses the other) and if one is missing he said, it's a deal breaker. He had tried to break up with me numerous times before that but he would burst into tears and so would I and it would only be a tear fest... he was unhappy in our relationship due to the lack of sexual activities, but we still had immense feelings for each other and I loved him.. we still talk on the phone but don't see each other in person because we're afraid of developing stronger feelings. He still tells me that he will get married to me one day and how our daily married day routine will go.. etcetc, and I'm just sitting there listening to him tell me how much he loves me after hurting me so much? And I don't even know what to think I mean, we've broken up, there is no reason for his sweet talk anymore, he knows I won't sleep with him... so why does he do it? He has proved to be there for me over and over again when I needed him but he always said "I love as much as you let me love you, when you put up boundaries, you stop me from loving you as much as I can." Typical guilt trip... I never knew what to think, never knew if he truly loved me or not.. because despite all the abuse, he did stay for a year and a half.. a lot longer than most men who only want sex. Also, thanks a lot for your response Gemini :)

Gemini54
May 17, 2009, 08:53 PM
he has proved to be there for me over and over again when I needed him but he always said "I love as much as you let me love you, when you put up boundaries, you stop me from loving you as much as I can." Typical guilt trip... I never knew what to think, never knew if he truly loved me or not.. because despite all the abuse, he did stay for a year and a half.. a lot longer than most men who only want sex.

Yea, it's really confusing - I may well be very wrong - perhaps he wasn't a bully - perhaps he just didn't know when to stop trying for something he wasn't going to get.

Perhaps he genuinely liked you - but if he did, why didn't he respect your culture and your wishes?

The only thing that I can see is that despite the fact that you cared for each other, there were serious impediments to your continued happiness as a couple.

In the end you'll hopefully find that it's for the best. It's a good experience and you've learned a lot. Sadly, we seem to learn the most when we experience difficult times.

There will be someone else, and this time you'll know that you want YOUR wishes respected. Don't take anything less.

Xrayman
May 17, 2009, 09:01 PM
You are fine.
He is an emotional abuser.
He's dumped.
You are still a virgin.

You don't have to tell everybody (future partners) all of your past history.

Enjoy your present singlehood.
Then wait for the right man to come along, as you are now doing.

Best wishes.

smoothy
May 18, 2009, 06:00 AM
I'm not sure if that could legally constitute rape... but it must be close. And no you don't have to have vaginal penitration to be raped. If there are any real lawyers reading this thread maybe they could clarify that fine line.

The guy was real scum... there is pressure... and then there is what he did. Be glad he is gone and out of your life. You don't need people like that.

Quite honestly... I've had sex with nearly every woman I ever dated in the first two weeks much less month, sometimes the first date. But that was concentual when it happened... and nobody was ever pressured into it.

lavendar35
May 18, 2009, 11:25 AM
Smoothy, I was reading your other posts about virginity and the answer you and others had provided. Would you consider me a virgin or not? And thanks a lot for your response and everyone else who has put the time to help me out so far. You guys are all great people.

And about the rape issue.. just thinking about that sends goosebumps down my spine. He did emotionally abuse me but he never laid his hands on me is why I keep thinking it can't be rape, but emotional black mail is just as bad I suppose.

smoothy
May 18, 2009, 11:39 AM
Quite honestly you fall into a grey area in my mind... The innocence is gone, and you can't get that back. Technically you remain a virgin assuming he never got in your pants by most standards, but spiritually I think that's gone. Not many people are going to agree with me here with that. And I don't care to go through that argument with them all again either. Its just my opinion.

My personal viewpoint is any form of penitration ends virginity... oral, anal or vaginal. But with that said... I don't think you are in a culture that puts excessive value on that like some repressive cultures do. Keep in mind most people got baths once a year if at all when some of these definitions were put down in writing thousands of years ago... obviously some things just weren't done (very often anyway) given the hygene standards of the times. I feel that influenced the narrow scope some use for virgin.

You know it was something you were pressured into by a less than nice guy. Just remember this as well as other things can be a wonderful and pleasurable thing with the right guy who truly loves and respects you. And try to not focus on what this guy pushed you into. You are who you choose to be... and your worth is not defined by a single word... "virgin" but by your concience actions.

Catsmine
May 18, 2009, 03:44 PM
Lavendar,

You have been abused and bullied by a very accomplished bully. The calling after you broke up and describing married life while he masturbates is artistry(you didn't say it, but I'm betting). He's not worth answering the phone. See how long he continues to "be there" once you make it absolutely clear he has no chance anymore.

lavendar35
May 18, 2009, 04:09 PM
Lavendar,

You have been abused and bullied by a very accomplished bully. The calling after you broke up and describing married life while he masturbates is artistry(you didn't say it, but I'm betting). He's not worth answering the phone. See how long he continues to "be there" once you make it absolutely clear he has no chance anymore.

Wow, honestly your comment was pure genius. I really hope you know these details because you read my other posts, otherwise I will have to set up a temple in your honor. In fact, only a few nights ago he called (yes.. we still talk, I couldn't cold turkey cut him out of my life, but we don't see each other) and said "you know I'm going to get married to you right? I hope you know one day I'm going to marry you..". He is so obsessed with being my first that nothing else matters to him, he STILL asks me "so, when do you think you'll be ready?" and acts as though he didn't just dump me 2 months ago. I've tried dating others to forget him, and it almost worked.. except the guy who I was fond of told me he didn't feel a "connection" with me and chose another girl to be with. But like others have said, I should probably make myself stronger before I go into another relationship. Am I making a bigger deal than I should about my virgin status? I feel like I'm being very obsessive...

Catsmine
May 18, 2009, 04:23 PM
Find a nice group of people who share some of your interests (other than virginity, lol).

Make some friends.

When one asks you out, go.

Forget this p***k, completely.

If and when you're asked, hopefully about the sixth month of your next relationship, don't lie, you were pressured into oral sex. If you didn't like it the first time, a good prospect will be ecstatic to teach you the pleasure of giving and receiving. You can always say no.

You can always say no.

You can always say no.

You can always say no.

Gemini54
May 18, 2009, 06:04 PM
Wow, honestly your comment was pure genius. I really hope you know these details because you read my other posts, otherwise I will have to set up a temple in your honor. In fact, only a few nights ago he called (yes..we still talk, I couldn't cold turkey cut him out of my life, but we don't see each other) and said "you know I'm going to get married to you right? I hope you know one day I'm going to marry you..". He is so obsessed with being my first that nothing else matters to him, he STILL asks me "so, when do you think you'll be ready?" and acts as though he didn't just dump me 2 months ago. I've tried dating others to forget him, and it almost worked..except the guy who I was fond of told me he didn't feel a "connection" with me and chose another girl to be with. But like others have said, I should probably make myself stronger before I go into another relationship. Am I making a bigger deal than I should about my virgin status? I feel like I'm being very obsessive...

Eeeew. That casts a whole different light on the situation. I mean really - WHY would you keep talking to this guy?

Instead, why don't you build a temple in your own honour and forget about him, his obsessions and your obsessions. In the end you're feeding both obsessions by continuing to talk to him because it keeps bringing it up again for you.

Be realistic, you're not going to put the experience completely aside in 2 months, but you can make a start:

Start by deciding NEVER to speak with him again.
Start by acknowledging that his influence in your life has been toxic.
Start by telling yourself that you are worth more than just your virginity.
Start by letting go of this obsessive thinking which wastes your time and head space.
Start by doing something useful - study, work, family, whatever - consciously shift your focus to something outside of yourself.

It will be hard, but it's time to let this issue go - it's consumed too much of your time and energy already.

smoothy
May 19, 2009, 05:23 AM
Wow, honestly your comment was pure genius. I really hope you know these details because you read my other posts, otherwise I will have to set up a temple in your honor. In fact, only a few nights ago he called (yes..we still talk, I couldn't cold turkey cut him out of my life, but we don't see each other) and said "you know I'm going to get married to you right? I hope you know one day I'm going to marry you..". He is so obsessed with being my first that nothing else matters to him, he STILL asks me "so, when do you think you'll be ready?" and acts as though he didn't just dump me 2 months ago. I've tried dating others to forget him, and it almost worked..except the guy who I was fond of told me he didn't feel a "connection" with me and chose another girl to be with. But like others have said, I should probably make myself stronger before I go into another relationship. Am I making a bigger deal than I should about my virgin status? I feel like I'm being very obsessive...


Like I told you, Do not let a single word define who you are or are not... "Virgin".

Unless you are part of a culture that has a history of doing horrible things to women that aren't. Such as Pakistan, parts of India... parts of Africa, then its not something to obsess over having lost.

YOU are the person you chose to be based on your actions and choices. Yes that was taken away from you by a scum... you should refuse any further contact with him, and if he calls hang up on him. Eventually he will get the message. Get his number blocked, and tell him STOP calling... if he refuses to leave you alone, then go to your local police station and ask them about how to get a restraining order issued against him.

The guy HAS to bcome history if you are to move forward. Not every person you meet will work out, some may take a few dates or a few months, but it is important to move forward if that happens. You will never find that one "Right" person without this process, Mr. Right is far better then Mr. He'll Do.

talaniman
May 19, 2009, 06:37 AM
Am I making a bigger deal than I should about my virgin status? I feel like I'm being very obsessive...

I think that's more about the ones who are trying to take it from you, than what you actually feel. You have been through one heckuva learning experience with a guy who, may have cared, but not enough to respect you.

That being said, its your responsibility to stand up for yourself, and not be lead by love, or lust. Those that love themselves for who they are, seldom fall for someone else's BS.

What you did was because you cared for him, more than you cared for yourself, and he exploited it. But now you know better than to let the needs of another, overshadow your own.

You clearly need to love yourself enough to forgive yourself, and move forward from this.

kp2171
May 19, 2009, 07:36 AM
Jumping in here late. Mostly just giving props to those who posted before me.

As you've seen, there are conflicting opinions about what defines virginity. I follow what most do... that intercourse is what ends virginity. Does sexually active virgin sound strange? Maybe. But that's where id place you... not having intercourse, but sexually active.

Yes... I think you are "making too much" out of being a virgin. And I'm so not trying to minimize those who choose abstinence or those who actually think about sex and all of the consequences that come with it... my first Big Love was a girl I dated through HS and college. Seven years total. We both refrained from intercourse for over two years. Yes... we were sexually active. Hand stim, oral... but she wanted to wait and I was willing to do the same, tho' it wasn't always easy. Eventually we decided to stop waiting. That said, even when it was tough to hold back, there was also a comfort in not having to worry about it all the time.

The reason why I think you might be "making too much" about what you are defined as is because... while its nice to think your "first" will be special... that doesn't mean sex with my next lover was any less meaningful. In fact, id say each new relationship added a depth of understanding and appreciation for sex as a means of showing intimacy and connecting to that other person. Sex with my partner today is absolutely not "worth less" than it was the first time I made love.

I hope you can somehow separate the power struggles and the mind games this guy played from sex. Do your best to try to not let the emotional baggage from this guy jade your experiences in the future.

Oral sex on this guy doesn't mean this is what oral sex is. I know it will take time to get this guy and the feeling associated with sex out of your head... but he doesn't define what good sex is. He doesn't define loving touch. Your experience here is not what oral sex "is"... it is just your experience so far. So try not to let this experience jade you about sex in the future.

However... do let this experience help you understand how you need to be in control, be comfortable, and not be blackmailed or threatened into doing something you are not ready to do... or at least not ready to do it under those circumstances.

A person could lie to you, fool you, get you to kiss them passionately, and then dump you. That doesn't mean kissing is a bad thing. It means that person was bad to you. I think this situation is similar, though there's a clear escalation of sexual activity in your case.

As for the "we will marry someday"... no... you won't. Young loves are often like that. Been there myself. Had every intention of marrying my first big love. Thank god I didn't. You can love a person for a time, and not all time.

He isn't the only guy out there... I'm guessing out of a few billion more people in the world, one or two might be an "upgrade" from the noise you just went through.

lavendar35
May 19, 2009, 05:18 PM
Wow thanks a lot, thanks to all of you who keep checking back.. I check back here everyday to see what new comments have been posted, I print them out and I stick them on my bedroom wall.. (a little extreme but the only thing I can do to help myself recover).

The reason I am so afraid of this experience is because I feel no decent man will want me anymore. I feel as though if the next guy comes along and I admit to him I've experimented with oral sex at 16, he will be a little hesitant about me. My biggest fear however is remaining single for the rest of my life. My biggest fear is never getting married, and I feel like even if a guy does fall for me... after learning that I've tried oral sex he will be a little taken aback. Not getting married has always been my fear, always. Out of insecurity, out of god knows what... but it's a huge phobia of mine and sometimes I lay awake wondering what I will do if I don't find the right guy.

People tell me I'm blowing it way out of proportion. But I feel used, and having hurt his ego, when we talk (which I should stop doing, I know) and fight, he calls me a whore. I tell him that there is huge irony in that... but he doesn't listen. I'm afraid he will spread rumors about me, and then no one will want to marry me. Is not being married a completely irrational fear? What can I do to help myself get over this fear? I have this mindset that all men want the pure, untouched virgin... and I feel like, although I'm a virgin, I'm not as pure anymore and men will have second thoughts about me...

smoothy
May 19, 2009, 05:24 PM
Only idiots will be hesitant... MOST women I have dated were not vigins... and in fact I never thought badly of any of them at the time. Breakups were over personality conflicts or other reasons. Never over virginity.

Simple... STOP talking to him... you are only perpetuating this and letting him get to you, and thus have power over you. Get a restraining order if you must... but stop any form of contact. Right now... and forever.

Based on your obviously excellent english I assume you are not in a third world country that makes a big deal about virginity... and not surprisingly those are nearly always arrainged marriages as well.

You really do need to speak with your therapist about this. Because that really is an irrational fear. VERY few guys will walk away from a woman because she is not a virgin. I have dated several women that were victims of a real rape and worse abuse, and that woman suffered some horrific abuse in her childhood, she was still also one of the most incredible women I have ever known in my life, and I don't say that lightly. Don't think guys ignore the person you are to focus on something like that in your past, everyone has a past, not everyone is proud of theirs... what matters is the person you are now... and will be in the future.

Xrayman
May 19, 2009, 05:39 PM
I'm not sure if that could legally constitute rape... but it must be close. And no you don't have to have vaginal penitration to be raped. If there are any real lawyers reading this thread maybe they could clarify that fine line.


In australia we call it sexual abuse -ILLEGAL.
And it may constitute rape-ORAL RAPE is the term we use here.

There are MANY forms of rape-this dude is at the very least a stalker and (in this country) would maybe even classified as a high risk rapist.

She could really push the issue here, she needs an intervention order and to RECORD every abusive phone call-he is sick.
Most answering machines can record the conversation. Then she needs to go to the police so there is a RECORD of abuse from this person-this all adds weight to protection orders etc.

I am not a lawyer, but I have a pretty good idea of what's wrong and illegal-at least here.-most countries are close to the same standards.

Gemini54
May 19, 2009, 07:04 PM
Dear lavendar, in the end the only person that can deal with your thoughts and fears is YOU.

Yes, your thoughts and fears are irrational:


I feel no decent man will want me anymore. I feel as though if the next guy comes along and I admit to him I've experimented with oral sex at 16, he will be a little hesitant about me. My biggest fear however is remaining single for the rest of my life. My biggest fear is never getting married.

We all experiment with sex and your new partners will be no different. Believing that this experience will affect your chances of marriage, makes absolutely no sense at all. Try and think this through rationally - why would it? It's only your fears that are telling you this and they have no basis in fact.


I'm afraid he will spread rumors about me, and then no one will want to marry me. Is not being married a completely irrational fear? What can I do to help myself get over this fear? I have this mindset that all men want the pure, untouched virgin...

This is also not based in fact - for a start, most women (and men) in Western countries are not virgins whan they marry and this is a positive thing for their relationships.

To keep obsessing about this thing is not healthy. Re-read KP's advice:


a person could lie to you, fool you, get you to kiss them passionately, and then dump you. That doesn't mean kissing is a bad thing. It means that person was bad to you.

This experience has been painful for you, but it's 'training' for how you will deal with other future difficult experiences in your life. It's really important that you develop a sense of perspective on it and develop resilience in response to adversity rather then going into a downward spiral of self loathing each time something challenging happens.

Pull yourself out if it! Go out with friends, watch movies, spend time with your family, throw yourself into your school work. Speak to a school counsellor if you have to.

You are being morbid and self indulgent if you continue like this. I repeat, the only person that can control your thoughts and fears is YOU.

Fr_Chuck
May 19, 2009, 07:11 PM
As one get order finding or dating someone that has never had sex is rare. And to be honest in most cases a person does not ask, and there is no reason to have to explain this to the next person unless it is causing you problems

Catsmine
May 20, 2009, 02:09 AM
Lavendar, every time you pick up the phone and talk to him you are digging this hole you are in a little deeper. Notice that all the advice we have given can be boiled down to one phrase:

STOP DIGGING!

If you let him continue to call and abuse you, you are making it worse. You are getting way too close to self-destructive behavior already. Please get away from this relationship before it kills you.

talaniman
May 20, 2009, 05:07 AM
You need to be careful, and see how your fears, and insecurities, are making you go down some very unhealthy paths.

Leave the guys alone, and get healthy by building a life that you enjoy with real friends, and realistic goals for the future. That will raise your confidence, and self esteem, and then you can be happy, with who you are.

It makes little sense, and is very dangerous, for you to worry about what some unnamed, unseen guy, will think of you. Be happy with yourself, and a real man will love, and accept you for who you are, and not be worried about what you did as a kid.

Look in the mirror everyday, and tell the one you see "I Love You"!!

Synnen
May 20, 2009, 05:51 AM
I have to ask the original poster here (and I'm sorry if I missed it, if it's already posted)--what country are you in? Are you in a Western country (like the US) or are you in a country where more emphasis is placed on the purity of a woman, like in the Middle East?

lavendar35
May 20, 2009, 07:12 PM
I have to ask the original poster here (and I'm sorry if I missed it, if it's already posted)--what country are you in? Are you in a Western country (like the US) or are you in a country where more emphasis is placed on the purity of a woman, like in the Middle East?

No I'm not in the Middle East actually, I live in Canada and have been for the last 11 years. I am Middle Eastern myself however, born in Iran. The emphasis comes from my parents... they keep telling me: if you stay "good", many decent men will want to marry you. And we all know what staying "good" means. My parents, having been born and raised in Iran until they were both 30-something, have ideals that make me put virginity on a pedestal, to the point where I've become obsessive and destructive, like talaniman, Gemini, Smoothy, Catsmine and Artlady pointed out very correctly.

smoothy
May 21, 2009, 05:35 AM
Well you aren't in Iran... and you don't go for the arrainged marriage thing.

You really have nothing to worry about. Any guy that worries more about your virginity status than he does about your personality is the sort of man you don't want to make a life with anyway.

I know you don't recognise this yet, but you really do have far more opportunities to find the right man than you would if you actually were in Iran. Most Western men do not have the same mindset and that for you is a good thing. We care more about the kind of woman you are and your personality... if you are or are not a virgin is not somethiing most of us even care about.

dontknownuthin
May 21, 2009, 02:18 PM
You are still a virgin. The bigger issue, I hope, is that you learned that you need to be in control of decisions over your sexuality.

You should never do anything sexual out of feelings of pressure or in response to a threat. You would not be the first person to say "no", and it's not a bad way to find out who's in the relationship for the right reason. If a man leaves because you aren't comfortable with sexual contact yet, well - let him go. The one who shares your values will stick around.

lavendar35
May 23, 2009, 02:15 PM
You are still a virgin. The bigger issue, I hope, is that you learned that you need to be in control of decisions over your sexuality.

You should never do anything sexual out of feelings of pressure or in response to a threat. You would not be the first person to say "no", and it's not a bad way to find out who's in the relationship for the right reason. If a man leaves because you aren't comfortable with sexual contact yet, well - let him go. The one who shares your values will stick around.

Thanks to all of you.. you have all contributed to my returned sanity. I will stop over analyzing this, be happy that we are not together anymore, and remember that I don't live in Iran and will have many opportunities to hit it off with men who share and/or respect my values. You are all great people, putting aside time to help out someone like me, with no benefits to yourselves. I will also never do anything with anyone if it makes me feel uncomfortable and as cliché as this sounds.. I will listen to my gut feelings and remain a virgin (by continuing to say no) for many future years to come and hope that in the future, the man who I become close with will help me get over this abuse.. I will also set more time aside for myself and my friends.. to help me recover and possibly help myself confidence. Much thanks, I wish the best for all of you because your kindness speaks volumes.

Catsmine
May 23, 2009, 05:32 PM
You're welcome to come back anytime, with questions or just to chat, or maybe with an answer.

dontknownuthin
May 26, 2009, 06:14 PM
You're very welcome. Just know that most people have made some mistakes dating (think of the countless men and women who have awakened after a one night stand for the walk of shame home). Just make better choices moving forward, and don't make too much of past regrets.

kp2171
May 26, 2009, 06:48 PM
Thanks to all of you..you have all contributed to my returned sanity.


Thanks for the thanks... just remember... when somebody has an answer to a problem, its often because we've made the same mistake, or something similar, often more than once.

I'm glad when someone finds my advice useful, but I always want that person to know it wasn't divine knowledge. Step in dog crap enough times and you might learn to avoid it.

Icky analogy, I know... but still... I've made more mistakes than right choices... so don't be too hard on yourself. That doesn't mean you ignore the past. Doesn't mean don't demand more of and for yourself.

But really... most of us have made similar mistakes along the way, even if the details aren't the same.

So take the time to breathe in and out... take time to take time.. and don't punish yourself too much for the noise of the past. Good people do dumb things. I'm the poster child for that statement. ;)

Your seeking help and talking your way through this shows you have the courage to demand more, and the willingness to face your "mistakes."

That's a big deal.

musicianguybrum
May 31, 2009, 07:25 PM
At the end of the day, you are rid of him. That's all that matters. He has manipulated you. I have a tendency to be impatient, but at the end of the day, if 1/2 of the couple isn't ready, then you just have to wait.

To be nasty about the blowjobs you gave him, was cruel, heartless and damn selfish...

You sound like a loyal, sweet and caring young lady. Just follow your heart and don't ever do anything you don't feel comfortable doing, if the other person can't hack it, tell him to bog off (in the nicest possible way).

About you still being attached to him, this is natural, you spent a long time with him. Just keep moving forward, enjoy life, and just be patient. Prince charming will find you!

griffers90
Jun 4, 2009, 11:25 AM
You poor girl hun! If he really did that to you then he did you a favour by leaving (trust me it only gets worse) But as you seem quite distracted by the point of virginity I will clarify that you only loose your virginity if his penis entered your vagina so to me sounds like you are indeed a virgin. Just be careful who you give it up to OK?

lavendar35
Jun 4, 2009, 08:19 PM
KP, thanks for your kind words and having realized my mistake, I am trying my hardest to currently move forward from this, occupying myself with exams until the summer.

Musician, thanks a lot, and I hope that's what it'll be like.. I hope I find my "prince charming" one day, because it's not difficult for me to be loyal to someone for the rest of my life.. in fact I'm crossing my fingers that I will find that someone and look forward to being with them permanently..

And Griffers, many thanks hun, and don't you worry.. I will be careful *lol*.. too careful probably to the point of obsession, so I'm waiting until I'm married simply for moral reasons... thanks again!

I hope this thread is open in a year or two so I can come back and post something and thank you all again, because hopefully then I will be in a better stage of my life!
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