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dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 07:49 AM
I am a single mom of 3 small kids. I have been seeing this guy (whose 27 I am 32)that works with me for about 3 months. Everything was going great we saw each other everyday now all of a sudden he says he needs time and space. Doesn't want me calling him or anything I am not sure what is going on. I am trying to give him space but at the same time I am not understanding what is going on. Someone please help me understand. Does he have someone else or what. What does it really mean when a guy tells you they need space??
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 08:27 AM
YOU MUST pull back - leave him a lone.
SEE - the first few months you shouldn't see that person every day - YUCK! That's too much - way too much. Smothering.
We see this every day here - at first one person loves the attention grow to get annoyed by the over attention.
Let him come to you - be busy.
3 months is not a long time - you needed to SLOWLY go into a relationship. No rush. The WORD is SLOW!!
When you go fast and furious - see that person every day - you usually crash and burn.
dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 08:29 AM
Do you think that there is someone else??
ScottGem
Sep 26, 2006, 08:35 AM
all of a sudden he says he needs time and space.
Give him a gift of a DVD set of Star Trek movies, that should provide Time and Space :D
Seriously, take it at face value. Three months is not a lot of time. Either he met someone else or he's not sure about the relationship or something else. For a 27 year old to take on an older woman (however slightly) with three kids, can be very intimidating.
He either wants to break it off and doesn't know how, or he just needs some time to decide what he wants to do. If it's the former, then you a well rid of him. If he doesn't have the honesty and integrity to tell you the truth, then you are better off without him. If it's the latter, the only thing you can do is give him the time and space he asks for.
I suggest you get on with your life and not wait for him. If he comes back, fine.
dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 08:36 AM
It helped. I am just not sure how to let that bird go
I guess the bigger question is how much time should I give him before I say in my mind it's over and move on?
ScottGem
Sep 26, 2006, 08:39 AM
The bird is gone. The question is whether it will return. Only time will tell.
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 08:43 AM
Could be. You never know.
Some questions:
Did you see him every day?
Talk ever yday o nthe phone?
See him every day on the weekends?
See - early on you need to take it slow and learn about the person. What's the rush??
Are you feeling needy or insecure or were you??
It sounds like you were in a relatinship before?
dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 08:46 AM
Yes we saw each other everyday.
Talked on the phone and emailed each everyday.
Had lunch together everyday
Spent the weekends together
At one point I guess I was a little cingy and insecure
kp2171
Sep 26, 2006, 09:04 AM
You don't know enough right now, which means you need to be on guard and reserved some.
When I started dating my wife I went through the same kind of thing... largely because:
1) I liked her a lot
2) I had plans to leave town in motion
3) she liked me a lot
4) she had a child
5) id already put off plans before for a relationship
Now... in my case, all worked out well. (by the way, I was 28 and my wife was 33 with a 13 year old)
For as much as I say usually when somebody pulls back, its done... well I guess it wasn't in my case.
BUT... in every other relationship I have had where the girl pulled away for space, it was OVER. Sometimes cause there was another guy in line, sometimes cause there was another guy in bed, sometimes cause they thought it wasn't what they wanted.
So... best you can do is some of what was mentioned. Stand your ground, don't cling to him. If clinginess is what draws him to you, is that any way to live? He wants space... there's really nothing you can do to stop that. You can limit his using you as a diversion.
I think its too early to judge here. Like I said... in my case, I needed a little time to figure out if I wanted to change plans again. And having the child involved complicated things, as in it ups the stakes. But my wife didn't chase after me. I kept going to her. When I did she made her position clear... she liked me large and shed love to see me... but she wasn't into games and she wasn't going to be a convenience stop.
I think you need to do the same. If he really needs to think things through, hell come around. If he really is stepping away, hell continue that path.
Be open. Be nice. Think of pleasing yourself first. Don't change your behaviour to try to please him. Give it a little time. You just don't know enough yet. Unfortunately that means some uncertainty for a while.
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 09:26 AM
"Yes we saw each other everyday.
Talked on the phone and emailed each everyday.
Had lunch together everyday
spent the weekends together
At one point I guess I was a little cingy and insecure"
That's just too much. Ughhhhh! Way too much. I am surprised you're not sick of him??
You two needed a life away from each other. They are part of your life - not your life.
And you haqve 3 small children to worry about and work. Much more important than him. Don't ever put him ahead of you or your kids.
dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 09:28 AM
One the nights he wasn't supposed to come over that was fine with me but he came over anyway..
I will never put anyone before them they come first and for most.
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 09:33 AM
Next time - and with him - take it SLOW.
I would not contact or talk with him unless it's work related.
dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 11:00 AM
Luckily we don't have to interact with each other for work related stuff
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 11:07 AM
Good - just go on about your business. No neediness. Do not contact him. Believe me - if he comes back - this is the only way. You won't be able to convince anyone to come back.
Work on yourself. Realize what pushed him away and stop that.
Going forward - be less available.
K_3
Sep 26, 2006, 11:08 AM
When I was dating it always seemed as though 3 months was significant time. It would start to slow down or it would change directions. Give him time, I would not wait around for him though, if he comes back and you still want him fine. Three months should not be enough time for you to not be able to get on with your life. No one likes anyone clingy, male or female. To cut off completely, I would say he may have someone else in his life.
Presleygall85
Sep 26, 2006, 11:13 AM
OK my only advice to you is to not rush him... let me tell you why...
My mom had twins ( me and my sis) at the age of 16. At 18 she met my (step) dad after 3 months of dating they got married and it was a really big step getting married and already having 2 small kids all at once.. my dad had his doubts but my mom wasn't willing to sit around and let him make sure this is what he wanted to do... after 18 years of trying to make everyhting work.. my dad left my mom.. now everything has gone to S***! So please don't rush him, he needs to make sure for himself this is what he wants... He needs to take the time for himself to reflect on how he wants his life to go.. and hopefully in your case he wants you and your family... I wish you the best!
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 11:17 AM
Yeah - after 3 months -things change - you need to going gabout your life at that point and let them come to you.
dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 11:44 AM
What if I am really not sure what pushed him away. I have gotten some self help books and I am reading those.
Should I ask him if he wants to break it off?
talaniman
Sep 26, 2006, 12:42 PM
Just my opinion. Forget him and have no contact. He wants space so be it. The sooner you move on the more quick you can get a life without him. For all intents and purposes it is broke off. Accept it and don't look back. After 3 months where you really that much in love or did the lust feel good? This relationship moved way to fast in my opinion and you got comfortable and he didn't.
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 12:43 PM
No - but, I also wouldn't return his e-mails, text etc. - make him WORK for it going forward. Leave it be don't contact him.
I know what pushed him away - TOO MUCH!! Too much being together.
It's GOOD to be apart - make him miss you. No attention.
dancingtwins
Sep 26, 2006, 12:49 PM
One of the things he said to me was absences makes the heart grow fonder! So I guess he is wanting to see if his heart grows fonder. I have a feeling there may be someone else should I try to catch him..
Wildcat21
Sep 26, 2006, 02:03 PM
That's what we're trying to tell you!! Ok?
Don't WORRY about someoen else - there is also someone else until you are exclusive... after 3 months, in a HEALTHY relationship, you shouldn't be exclusive.
I think maybe you should date others as well - gives you a strong perspective on thngs.
s_cianci
Sep 26, 2006, 07:23 PM
Don't knock yourself out trying to figure out what's really going on. There's no way for anyone to really know. He himself might not even be sure. He may tell you one thing but subconsciously he may be thinking something totally different. The best thing to do is to give him the space he says he needs. Break off all contact for now, save for what may be necessary for business. Get on with your life and be able to enjoy it just as much without him as with him. Let him miss you. He may eventually start to chase you again. If he doesn't you'll have lost nothing and will have had the pleasure of knowing him while it lasted.
chuff
Sep 26, 2006, 09:07 PM
One of the things he said to me was absences makes the heart grow fonder! So I guess he is wanting to see if his heart grows fonder. I have a feeling there may be someone else should I try to catch him..
Catch him doing what? Dating another woman when he has no ties to you?
Dancingtwins, I'm an emotional person so I know this stuff can really hurt but from what your posting you're the one pushing him away. I'd be pulling away if I was him. You've got yourself and 3 children to worry about that's 4 people total who should be occupying your time and energy. To me that's almost a good thing because it provides you, or should provide you with some focus and activity in your life. It sounds like he's been pretty fair by telling you that he needs time and space and said that maybe in the future you can get back together but that's a maybe and maybe's should always be considered never.
You've got to quit holding onto hope and tell yourself it's over.
ScottGem
Sep 27, 2006, 05:15 AM
Ok, I'm going to get harsh here. You came here asking for advice. Did you really want advice or did you hope someone will give you support by telling you to do what you want to do?
You have gotten very good and unanimous advice. LISTEN TO IT!!! FOLLOW IT!!! Give him the space and move on with your life.
Stop asking if you should do what everyone has told you NOT to do.
kp2171
Sep 27, 2006, 06:47 AM
I wouldn't waste my time trying to catch him.
If he's honest, you're wasting your time.
If there's another woman and he just doesn't know what to do... well, shouldn't he have that time to figure it out? You, in the meantime do not have to wait for him, but I guess id rather he get another person out of his mind first. You are not engaged. You are not married. You are trying each to determine compatibility. Let him go his way.
Spending a lot of energy trying to catch him doing anything is just a distraction... not to mention a new trust issue.
As I said in my earlier post, I did some of the same things this guy did, for very "valid" reasons, no other woman involved, when I dated the woman who would become my wife. If I felt she were trying to track me down in a lie or she were obsessing over me, I'm not sure I wouldve been drawn back to her. And, at least in my case, it wasn't that I had lessened feelings for her. I just needed a little time to wrap my mind around everything I mentioned before.
Luckily for me, my wife was willing to wait a little while.
talaniman
Sep 27, 2006, 08:32 AM
Please stay out of his business and move forward with your own life.
dancingtwins
Sep 27, 2006, 08:56 AM
He just emailed me he wants to have lunch so that we can talk
Wildcat21
Sep 27, 2006, 09:17 AM
Hmmmmm - say your busy - maybe tomrrow. Don't be on his call and rush to him. Seriously - he hurt you a little. Be different.
talaniman
Sep 27, 2006, 09:30 AM
If you have something else to do,do it.
ScottGem
Sep 27, 2006, 10:39 AM
Well that's a good sign, but I agree with the others. Don't be at his beck and call or come running when he crooks his finger. Tell him you can't at the time he proposes, but come back with a counter proposal of a later time.
chuff
Sep 27, 2006, 01:18 PM
He just emailed me he wants to have lunch so that we can talk
You are not ready for this. Please tell him thanks but no thanks for now. Maybe later.
Wildcat21
Sep 27, 2006, 01:33 PM
Be less available to him. AND seriously - you need time to think about the gief and crap he caused you!!
Be busy. Be with your kids.
Wildcat21
Sep 27, 2006, 01:34 PM
Let us know what you did and what happens - but pull back for now and decide - over several days IF he's worth it.
dancingtwins
Sep 27, 2006, 01:47 PM
We decided to casually date but not date other people. I told him that I wasn't going to be at his beck and call and I didn't want to see him everyday. That we both needed to think about what we really wanted
Presleygall85
Sep 27, 2006, 02:58 PM
Good for you!! Just remember he is just one guy and there are plenty out there who would treat you the way you want to be treated if you only let them! :)
Wildcat21
Sep 27, 2006, 03:00 PM
TAKE IT SLOW!! By taking a step BACK you will find out if you really like him or not - or was just infactuation and the attention and being wanted.
sumler
Sep 27, 2006, 04:08 PM
Maybe He Is Sceared Of A Ready Made Family Does He Have Kids?sometime That's The Case Maybe He Need Time To Figuer Out Hum Is This What I Want?
LUNAGODDESS
Sep 27, 2006, 04:48 PM
Straight to the point... if he says he need timeout give it them and you find something else to do... read the reactions of other experts... there is a pattern here... their responses are not demeaning... but helpful...
dancingtwins
Sep 29, 2006, 07:37 AM
He emailed me this morning and said that we haven't broken up he just needs some time and space. I told him I wasn't going to wait on him...
Wildcat21
Sep 29, 2006, 08:00 AM
Good for you - he flaked on you big time. That's GREAT you said you wouldn't wait - no one should be plan B.
He better get his act together quick. I advise looking for Mr. Right - this guy turned into Mr. Right now.
Seriously - last time a gal said that to me she was trying to date another guy. Just my thoughts. Luckily I wasn't that into her. She did come back, but I said no.
dancingtwins
Sep 29, 2006, 09:45 AM
I think that is what he is wanting to do... I told him that it is his lose
Wildcat21
Sep 29, 2006, 09:54 AM
Yeah - something isn't right here.
chuff
Sep 29, 2006, 11:52 AM
He emailed me this morning and said that we haven't broken up he just needs some time and space. I told him I wasn't going to wait on him...
When I read your original post I didn't get the impression you two were exclusive. So to read this one it makes me think he's just trying to keep you as a back up plan.
s_cianci
Sep 29, 2006, 06:12 PM
It could mean any of a number of things. Either way, just give him the space he says he needs and go on living your life. As they say, there's plenty of fish in the ocean. Go out and catch yourself some.
dancingtwins
Oct 10, 2006, 01:22 PM
Well it has been over a week and out of the blue he emails me today wanting to go to lunch with me We went to lunch and casually talked. What is going on?
Wildcat21
Oct 10, 2006, 02:07 PM
He wants his cake and eat too.
Be careful here - go SLOW. Don't rush into anything.
+ he's a 27 year old guy - he's not rerady for any type of seriosu relationship.
dancingtwins
Oct 10, 2006, 02:08 PM
I am going slow. I am going out with another guy Sat night just as friends. I am not sitting at home waiting on him to come back to me. If he does decide that he wants to come back he will work to get me back.
Wildcat21
Oct 11, 2006, 08:07 AM
Perfect - going out with someone for laughs will help give you a new perspective.
dancingtwins
Oct 11, 2006, 09:31 AM
It will also let me know if it is him that I really want...
Wildcat21
Oct 11, 2006, 10:13 AM
Here's the deal - going forward - you need to tell him what YOU NEED. Take control of the relationship. No more hot and cold from this guy. Tell him your wants from him. Becareful though - you need your share of the power in the relationship.
dancingtwins
Oct 11, 2006, 11:46 AM
One day he is all lovey dovey the next he is cold. He told me yesterday that he missed me and my kids. That he loves me but he just needs more space to make sure it wasn't just a lust thing. Why do guys do this...
momincali
Oct 11, 2006, 12:36 PM
Frankly, lots of guys will start to really like a gal, but, then comes the reality that she has kids and that's kind of where they freeze. They're not sure if they can do the whole package. It's fun for a while, but kid's always make it a much more serious affair.
For the sake of your kids, keep your distance. They don't need this hot cold thing from this guy. Kids have a way of internalizing what is going on and I don't want them thinking that they did something wrong and that is why he isn't coming around anymore.
He needs to grow up, sounds like he's not mature enough to handle this type of relationship. I wouldn't bring my kids around any man unless I knew he was a keeper, and he felt the same way, they don't need the confusion and the feeling of loss.
Wildcat21
Oct 11, 2006, 12:47 PM
Can't rate you Mom... but yes - huge sign of imatuirty. He's too young.
SINGLE4
Oct 11, 2006, 01:13 PM
I wouldn't bring my kids around any man unless I knew he was a keeper, and he felt the same way, they don't need the confusion and the feeling of loss.
I 100% agree with this! Kids get attached to "boyfriends/girlsfriends" and then when there is a break up... they get them ripped away! They think it is something they did to scare them off! I know because I am 32 years old and was with a man for 3 years and he broke up with me! My daughter who was 10 years old at the time, thought is was because of something she did or because she was around! It is hard to see kids go through this and I will never do that to her again... never!
A hard lesson learned!
dancingtwins
Oct 11, 2006, 01:17 PM
Lessoned learned this time too. I will make sure he is a keeper before I introduce another guy to my kids
dancingtwins
Oct 12, 2006, 02:06 PM
:confused: UPDATE!!
Yesterday was his birthday (27) I didn't call him or email him or anything. He emails me yesterday afternoon wanting to met at his house for a booty call after work. I told him that I would be NOONE's booty call that I had more respect for myself than that and he should have more respect for me than that. I told him to grow up and when he was finished playing games call me and we could see where we both are in our lives.
Wildcat21
Oct 12, 2006, 02:30 PM
Wow - what a jerk. What a jerk.
Maybe time to forget this guy?
chuff
Oct 12, 2006, 03:28 PM
One day he is all lovey dovey the next he is cold. He told me yesterday that he missed me and my kids. That he loves me but he just needs more space to make sure it wasn't just a lust thing. Why do guys do this....
Women do this too. Either way, I think he's trying to toy with you.
Wildcat21
Oct 12, 2006, 03:49 PM
I don't think he's that into you obviously. Time for a new guy.
dancingtwins
Oct 13, 2006, 05:45 AM
Now he is telling me that he needs this space to see if he loves me for me or if it is just a lust thing.
chuff
Oct 13, 2006, 06:48 AM
Now he is telling me that he needs this space to see if he loves me for me or if it is just a lust thing.
Now I'm telling you I stand by my original answer that he's toying with you.
talaniman
Oct 13, 2006, 06:58 AM
Want to stop feeling like a yo-yo? Cut the string and stop talking to this guy period.
Wildcat21
Oct 13, 2006, 09:12 AM
Yeah - chuck this guy - he's screwing with you. GIVE HIM SAPCE!! Eternity!! All the space he wants. Unlimited space!!
momincali
Oct 13, 2006, 10:15 AM
That was the lamest thing he could have said and I hope you can see that clear as day. He's shallow and immature and wanted it easy, when you let him know it would no longer be that way, he came up with a lousy excuse.
Stand by your integrity. Attention is great, not at that price though.
dancingtwins
Oct 17, 2006, 11:53 AM
He called last night and said that he made a decision. He said that he didn't want me to die or anything but he didn't have any feelings for me. I said that is fine. It is your loss. I deserve better. Please don't call me anymore.
J_9
Oct 17, 2006, 11:58 AM
Good for you!!
You are so right. You do deserve better.
He was looking for a reaction and you gave him one he did not expect.
Good for you. Keep it up!!
momincali
Oct 17, 2006, 12:05 PM
By the way he was treating you, he didn't tell you anything that really surprised you and I think that it even helped you because you were already kind of expecting it. It was tough, but you said the right thing. Good for you. Now, remember, say what you mean and mean what you say.
talaniman
Oct 17, 2006, 02:13 PM
You are free at last...
Wildcat21
Oct 17, 2006, 02:19 PM
Good!! You have your answer - he was toying with you. Wanted a booty call.
Lots of great guys out there - take it SLOW. Weed out the creeps like this guy - so guys like this grow up!!