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coolchick14
May 4, 2009, 09:24 AM
I am 25 and the guy I'm interested in is 32. We have class together and began talking that way, just about school. After a while, he took my number and email. We casually began emailing at first, mainly about school, but about other things too. Later it moved into phone calls and texts, and occasionally online chat. We talk every couple of days or so, using school as the excuse to do so, but he'll always try to change the subject and asks me a lot of questions about my interests and such. He casually mentioned that he would take me for a ride on his motorcycle when the weather gets nicer, as a way of repaying me for all the help I've given him with this class.

I've invited him to a few different outings with friends, but he's always busy on the days I invite him. He sometimes seems like he's fishing for a date or to hang out, but never comes out and says anything. Finally yesterday, he asked me to have dinner after fishing for it and getting the right response from me. We had dinner and it was great. The conversation, of course, still began with school, but quickly switched to more personal things, like career and further educational goals, family life growing up, travel interests, etc. We joked around a lot and laughed a lot, which I think is a good sign. He also kept eye contact most of the time. We walked back to my building where he was parked. He didn't walk me to the door, though I think he may have thought about it and then decided not to. I thanked him for dinner (he paid and said it was his way of repaying some of his debt to me) and then he shook my hand, which I found extremely odd. As I was walking away, he told me he'd maybe call or text later if he needed a break or had any questions.

Later that night, I was still very confused by the hand shake. This dinner was not supposed to be a date, just hanging out casually, but the hand shake just seemed really odd to me, so I asked him about it. He joked about it at first, with a running joke we have relating to class, and then explained that he's known for the handshake and probably a hug would've been better. Later he asked if in my culture we hug and kiss to greet people and I said yes and that maybe next time I'd greet him that way. I also explained that I don't do that with men as much because fear of jealous girlfriends and he assured me there is no one to be jealous, so I can greet him however I want. I casually brought up the motorcycle ride at some point in the conversation and he said he'd still love to do that but the weather still isn't nice enough. We continued to joke around a bit until I told him I had to go finish working on the project.

Last thing I learned about him: he's recently divorced. I'm not sure how long ago, probably somewhere between a year or two. It's not a big deal to me because I came out of a very long-term, serious relationship almost a year ago. I still don't have a great read on his interest level, but I'm pretty sure he's at least somewhat interested, right? I hope I'm reading his signals correctly. Also, how do I get him to ask me out on a real date or is he just interested in hanging out as friends? What should I do?

I wish
May 4, 2009, 01:09 PM
Sounds like he's just taking a very conservative approach and doesn't want to come on too strong. I'm sure he's somewhat interested, but just keep talking. You don't need to make a long lasting decision about this guy so soon. Get to know each other more. One date isn't going to make or break anything, so I suggest you guys hang out more often instead of just talking on the phone and texting.

coolchick14
May 14, 2009, 08:04 AM
Well, I asked him if he wanted to hang out again sometime and he said yes. We both had really busy weekends and he said he'd let me know if he was free. He text me congratulating me on graduation, so he remembered that, and told me he'd call me Sunday if he had some free time. He didn't call and sent me a text the next day apologizing for not calling because he had been busy all day. Then we said we'd hang out sometime during the week maybe. Then on Tuesday he told me he was free that afternoon, but I couldn't go, so then he said maybe Thursday and I said OK. We didn't set up any actual plans or anything though. Finally, yesterday night he sends me a message telling me he's had a busy week and asking if maybe we can hang out sometime soon, but he didn't acknowledge that we said we'd maybe hang out today. So then I asked him about it and he said he had something to go to today for work. So I'm confused and not sure what to do. I responded to his message about hanging out sometime soon and told him that's up to him at this point. I'm not doing or saying anything else now. He could be really that busy, or...

artlady
May 14, 2009, 08:16 AM
Dinner is a real date in my book.

I would let him lead the way and you still should ask him to join you at events if you feel he would be interested.

You mentioned a different culture so there may be cultural differences that make him feel awkward in social settings,hence his reluctance to hang with a group of your friends.

It might be a good general discussion to have,the differences in culture and how he adapts to the difference.

Regarding his busy schedule,if he is busy now ,chances are that will not change.Be prepared for him to be unable to make time for fun.

Continue to talk ,find out about his work ethic,his goals for the future.Keep it open and simple for now.

I wish
May 14, 2009, 10:21 AM
Like Artlady said, if he's busy now, he'll be busy later as well. If he continues to make an effort to communicate with you, then chances are he's still interested. I wouldn't give up so easily. Keep trying to work out your schedules to find some common time.

Furthermore, because you are not committed to each other yet, it's more difficult to work out common schedules. Just keep talking to him to get to know him better, via email, phone, text, IM, etc. Eventually I'm sure you guys will find time to hang out as well.

talaniman
May 15, 2009, 06:29 AM
Also, how do I get him to ask me out on a real date or is he just interested in hanging out as friends? What should I do?

Your busy when he isn't, and he is busy when your not. Back up, and do what you enjoy without him, until you two figure out how to make time for each other.

Dinner is a real date, at least I thought so and you have to be friends with no expectations to even hang out don't you?

Just me, people who are so busy, they cannot fit you in there busy schedule are not worth calling in the first place.

That really goes for you both.

coolchick14
May 15, 2009, 04:07 PM
I know dinner is a real date, but when he asked, I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be a date or not. It felt like a date the entire time and we talked about ourselves and he seemed really interested in what I had to say and he asked lots of questions, but at the end he just shook my hand, which threw me off completely. That's why I don't call it a real date because I wasn't sure what it was to begin with. Most men I've asked have said it was a date and the hand shake was him being nervous. Ok, but then the other stuff. We're both busy, so I can totally understand that, but if he continues to text me and chat with me online, does that mean he's still interested or being polite? He initiates the texting most of the time and he did mention us hanging out sometime soon, but would a guy say that just to be polite?

coolchick14
May 15, 2009, 04:13 PM
Let me rephrase that. I have already put it out there that I would like to hang out with him again. We've talked about it happening, but it hasn't yet. Would a guy bring up us hanging out if he didn't really mean it and was just saying it to be polite and not seem like he's completely rejecting me? The way I see it, he could just stop talking to me completely or just once in a while, but he continues to initiate communication with me. The fact that he's busy doesn't bother me so much because I'm busy too, but what bothers me is not really knowing if he's interested or just being friendly. Does that make sense? Thanks for help :)