Today I was talking to a very close friend of mine and we have different views but we agree to disagree.

I think there is life about death otherwise I wouldn't think for another minute that spirits exsits but she thinks once you die you are reincarnated and move on to another life.

However, I don't think so. What are your takes on this matter?

Well I can say your both right.

I believe that there is a lot that we do not know about.

Maybe there is a clause, maybe there are some cases where the spirit is sent back to a new body. With God anything is possible.

Also there was a time where I believe that the church taught reincarnation as part of the belief but very early nipped it in the bud.

I personally believe there is a life after life. I also believe that it is possible that somebody can come back to life on earth.

So when I say that your both right. You both have different beliefs, but you both believe that life continues in one form or another. So in reality your beliefs are not that far apart.

At least you both believe that life continues after this one.

I believe that believing in reincarnation is like saying that you limit God in your mind because God is not so limited that he has to *recycle* souls.
I believe there is something people call reincarnation but I believe it is more like a spirit channeling through a person N0T reincarnation.

I believe that we do not suffer death only transformation.

I believe that our soul is our life force which is who we are, what we think and how we feel. After our mortal bodies gives that up, it goes onto a new life. To be re-incarnated to something unfamiar like an animal or something like that would not make sense to what or who we are.

Hi liz28, you are welcome sweetheart. I don't know how to quote rates, but you are more than welcome.

I believe in life after death yes. (so much so I run a spiritual forum RE: Death & The Afterlife (http://www.spiritcharms.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=77) there's been too many experiences not to, plus I am mediumistic and do talk to spirit.

Thanks for your nice comments re my forum black111madonna x

I believe we have life eternal in heaven.That is Gods promise to the faithful.
I think when we see spirits,I believe they are souls that are earthbound for a variety of reasons.
Unfinished business or a trauma that holds them to earth.
Interesting question Liz,I liked reading the responses :)

I believe in life after death, and I call it Heaven. How can there not be life after death, what would be the point of living this life, expecting nothing left after we expire. I do not believe in reincarnation because "Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment," Hebrews 9 27
Tell me, if there is no afterlife, how can this whole life mean anything, how can you just live thinking that you can die any day, and after that, just a dark nothingness, an empty void? I find it extremely hard not to believe in life after death.

I believe that the body dies, but that the soul lives on. I believe in the basic concepts of Heaven and Hell.

If you live your life you will never die meaning if you are constantly aware of whatever is happenig inside and outside of you you will have no fantesies if you are doing this right.
Also whatever comes in contact with your body or touches your body and it may be anything just feel it simply touching your skin. Just live in the moment in total and do whatever you do in total and know what ever you are doing every step YOU ARE.
Do meditation unmoved and watch your breath and do it as long as you feel and alwase listen to your feel. Try to follow as many of these as possible and you will see you will know the answer to your questions and much much more.


Be BLissful

I like to thank everyone for their response and everyone view is dead on and I agreed with all of them.

Everyone remember to live your life and don't put off what you do today for tomorrow because tomorrow isn't promise.

Liz

Hello liz:

After you die, there ain't no more you. You're done, finished, over, kaput. Worms'll be working their way around your brain.

It's nice to pretend that we'll go to a better place... I guess that's why some people don't care much about THIS place.

excon

After Liz getting such a nice response to her thread and believing in what she believes in, I think that comment above wasn't a nice one! Of course everybodys entitled to their opinion and believe in what they believe,but what a horrible way of expressing yourself.

what a horrible way of expressing yourself.Hello spirit:

We've never met. I'm excon. I tell the truth. I don't sugarcoat stuff. I'm not one for warm and fuzzy. I have an opinion. I express it clearly.

I DON'T, however, disrespect my fellow posters. My opinion is NEVER personal, and it's NEVER directed at any one person.

The question asked for my belief. I stated it. The only thing horrible about my post is YOUR reaction to it.

excon

After Liz getting such a nice response to her thread and believing in what she believes in, i think that comment above wasnt a nice one! of course everybodys entitled to their opinion and believe in what they believe,but what a horrible way of expressing yourself.

Liz asked a question, Ex answered it honestly. That's what this site is all about.

LOL no worries, nothing wrong with speaking your truth, and not sugar coating either,but I guess it must just be me then that cares about others feelings, as I'm finding out on this site.

I've read so many horrible,nasty responses on this site lately to people that need help and understanding and not people taking the p*** all the time. Excon, I know that you wasn't but I think some people could have done without the 'worms working their way around your brain' comment on such a sensitive subject for some. But that's just my opinion. No hard feelings :)

Liz... here are some more views on the same topic.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/religious-discussions/there-afterlife-190885.html

Liz, I thought that you might be interested in reading this book by Michael Newton - Journey of Souls.

It gives an interesting perspective on the afterlife, or the life between lives, and reincarnation and is based on actual case studies by a clinical psychologist.

I personally found some of the concepts in it to be a bit structured, but it presents a conceptual framework for 'life after death' that both you and your friend might be interested in reading and discussing.

If there is no life after death then what are we living for? Nothing. It's as simple as that. I may not believe in the Christian version of "heaven" but I do believe in an after life. If we just live and die and that's it then what is the point of achieving your dreams and goals if they all amount to nothing? The answer is NOTHING. Makes no sense right? There has to be life after death. It's the only thing that makes sense... BEAT THAT SCIENTISTS!!

As for reincarnation, as a Wiccan I believe in this. Everything in nature goes in cycles, from the Earth and other planets rotating around the sun to the seasons to the months and days. Everything goes in a circle eventually. So why not humans? What makes us different (spiritually, not physically) from anything else in the universe that moves in a cyclical motion? Nothing.

Today I was talking to a very close friend of mine and we have different views but we agree to disagree.

I think there is life about death otherwise I wouldn't think for another minute that spirits exsits but she thinks once you die you are reincarnated and move on to another life.

However, I don't think so. What are your takes on this matter?

My answer would be this: I knew one lady who ( and her whole family) were not believers in God at all ( if they would bel;eve it would have been christian catholic faith, -as majority of us in our country), so life after death was out of question.. When the lady's father died, after some time he apeared in her dreams-in the same house that they lived ( and she still does).When she saw him, he told her,-'my daughter I ask you one thing to do-please do good on yourself-believe in God, -he does exsists'.Then they talked briefly aba
Out something, but the main message he wanted to leave was that one.. So,in our religion if one believes in God, they also believe in the life after death..

I believe that believing in reincarnation is like saying that you limit God in your mind because God is not so limited that he has to *recycle* souls.
I believe there is something people call reincarnation but I believe it is more like a spirit channeling through a person N0T reincarnation.

No offense but your answer is very demonstrative of so many who have little or no idea what reincarnation is at all. Might I suggest you study reincarnation just a touch before appearing so shallow, which I suspect is not your desire.

60% of the world believes and teaches reincarnation. But certainly not at all like your response.

Sorry.
:rolleyes:

Hello liz:

After you die, there ain't no more you. You're done, finished, over, kaput. Worms'll be working their way around your brain.

It's nice to pretend that we'll go to a better place... I guess that's why some people don't care much about THIS place.

excon

Might I suggest you pick up any book by Edgar Cayce or Seth or numerous others. You might want to rethink that. If this is what you think what a waste a 'life' would be.

No offense but your answer is very demonstrative of so many who have little or no idea what reincarnation is at all. Might I suggest you study reincarnation just a touch before appearing so shallow, which I suspect is not your desire.

60% of the world believes and teaches reincarnation. But certainly not at all like your response.

Sorry.
:rolleyes:

Your last two posts. I do not agree with. May I point out that this thread is about peoples personal beliefs. Whether you agree with certain peoples thoughts or opinions on these things does not matter.

What matters is that you share your personal beliefs. That is what this thread is for. Please instead of pointing out others, as there beliefs being shallow because you do not really see it the same way does not mean it is the wrong way.

Share your beliefs without knocking anybody Else's.

Joe

Your last two posts. I do not agree with. May I point out that this thread is about peoples personal beliefs. Whether you agree with certain peoples thoughts or opinions on these things does not matter.

What matters is that you share your personal beliefs. That is what this thread is for. Please instead of pointing out others, as there beliefs being shallow because you do not really see it the same way does not mean it is the wrong way.

Share your beliefs without knocking anybody Else's.

Joe
You pointing out the thread being about personal beliefs is a valid one, albeit I don't see where it necessarily said that anywhere. Nevertheless, I can easily agree.

What one believes is certainly valid to that person, correct or incorrect. The belief about the Earth revolving around the Sun was once considered ridiculous. Now that we know it is so, however, demonstrates easily how 'shallow' that belief once was.

That one has an opinion is normal, but there IS a 'right' way vs a 'wrong' way. Going against the flow of traffic on a one way street is not what I would consider the 'right' way, even if a person should have the belief that it is. To walk through a wall, for most, would require a door, and then to walk in the appropriate direction to get to the other side is also necessary. Perhaps there is a 'right' way or a 'wrong' way to do almost everything! You throw a ball up it comes down.

To state a belief in 'life after death' one way or the other without an actual study seems somewhat absurd to me, in that there are numerous studies, books of experiences, vast quantities of available info of specific cases, etc etc. And readily available if someone honestly desires to pursue it.

As specifically concerns 'life after death', it either is so or it isn't, One's 'opinion' is irrelevant. Assume for a moment there is a life after death, then whether one should 'reincarnate' or not is not the issue. The question is, do we continue to 'live' after what we perceive of as 'death', and if we do.. . Then perhaps our understanding of death is a bit screwed up.

When I used the word shallow, perhaps our understandings of the meaning of that are different and I might could have used a different one. And of course that's MY opinion and some might consider that shallow.. .