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rockinsmile089
Apr 23, 2009, 02:39 PM
What is a reasonable price for a yorkie dog from a breeder? I am purchasing a yorkie soon, and I need to know which prices are fair. Thank you for your help.

Alty
Apr 23, 2009, 02:56 PM
If you're getting the dog from a legitimate breeder then it can be in the thousands. It depends on where you live too.

If you're getting the yorkie from a backyard breeder or puppymill you'll save money on the dog, but you'll probably spend upwards of tens of thousands in vet bills.

Silverfoxkit
Apr 23, 2009, 03:30 PM
The average backyard breeder yorkie is around $800, but then like Alty said you will only be hurting yourself and your dog in the long run and you might not get want you want. I have seen a many puppy mill yorkie and they aren't the pretty little show pups you see on t.v.

Why do you want a yorkie? What research have you done into the breed? No breed should ever be purchased just because they are "cute" or "beautiful"

Are you aware of the grooming this breed is going to require?

If you are certain this is the right breed then make sure that you only get a dog from a reputable breeder. Yes it is more expensive because quality dogs are healthier and have received more veterinary care and attention. Breeding a dog responsibly is not cheap.

Some of the things you need to ask when looking for a breeder:

1. Why does the breeder breed? To make money? Because little "Fifi" is just too cute they have to let her have puppies? Maybe to teach their children the miracle of life?

These reasons are all wrong. A legitimate breeder breeds because they want to help conserve and further the quality o the breed.

2.How many dogs do they breed, how many different breeds, and how often?

A legitimate breeder never has huge quantities of dogs or more then a few select breeds. They do not breed a female dog every heat cycle or before they are mentally and physically ready.

3. What health tests have been preformed on the parents?

They should be able to provide proof of genetic testing done and offer a health warranty and often a spay and neuter contract.

You should always see the parents and where the dogs are bred and kept. If this right is refused to you this is a major red flag and you do not want to invest in these persons dogs.

These are just a few of the things you need to know. In order to be a responsible pet owner you need to do further research on your own to make yourself aware of the breed and potential breeders.

rockinsmile089
Apr 23, 2009, 03:55 PM
Thank you to everyone who is answering my questions. I have found a very good breeder for pups $1000.00

Alty
Apr 23, 2009, 04:14 PM
Thank you to everyone who is answering my questions. I have found a very good breeder for pups $1000.00

That's awfully cheap.

Is this breeder licensed? Are the pups registered? Were the parents genetically tested? How long has this person been breeding? Have you talked to other people who have purchased a pet from this breeder?

Did you find this breeder in the paper?

Just a word of caution A legitimate breeder rarely advertises their pups in the paper. Also, a legitimate breeder will give you a list of names of other people who've purchased pups from them in the past. A legit breeder will let you see where the dogs are kept, will let you meet the parents of the pup, will show you the health check and genetic testing done of the dogs, will many times demand a home check before allowing you to purchase one of their pups and will also make you sign a document stating that you will have the pup spayed or neutered at 6 months of age and should you decide not to keep the pup you are to return it to them.

Just because someone's dog had puppies, that doesn't make them a breeder.

Do a thorough check before adopting an animal from anyone.

rockinsmile089
Apr 23, 2009, 04:30 PM
The dogs are AKC registered, I found the breeder from her website.

Alty
Apr 23, 2009, 04:33 PM
The dogs are AKC registered, I found the breeder from her website.

AKC registration doesn't mean anything, there are so many loopholes, I could get my mutt registered if I wanted to.

How did you hear about the breeder?

$1000 dollars is really cheap. If you take in to consideration all the cost involved in breeding $1000 would mean that this breeder is actually paying to breed her dogs.

I would check. Yorkies are prone to many genetic defects.

Silverfoxkit
Apr 23, 2009, 04:35 PM
AKC Registered DOES NOT in any way, form or fashion mean that they are not puppy mill puppies. In fact many if not most of them have some form of registration. Regretfully I have worked at a very poorly operated pet store before and I have seen literally hundreds of puppy mill puppies, a good 90% all registered, a chunk of those even AKC. Were the puppy of good breeding, temperament, and health? NO. Usually not.

Please take our advice and do not just take the breeder for face value. Look into it closely and personally or you may find yourself funding a horrible practice for a less then healthy puppy.

Alty
Apr 23, 2009, 04:44 PM
Just so you have a better idea what a puppy mill is all about I've posted a link. This video was taken of the poor yorkies rescued from a puppy mill. These are breeder dogs. The spend their entire lives in a tiny cage just siring or birthing puppies.

YouTube - Rescued Yorkies from Substandard Puppy Mill-Specific Dog Case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhbp7Jz0lmo)

Most of the puppies found in pet stores are puppy mill puppies. Most of the people selling dogs in the paper are either puppy mills or backyard breeders (just one step above puppy mills).

It's buyer beware.

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 01:01 AM
$1000 is very cheap even in Australian dollars... that would equate to $1600 American.

As long as you know why the breeder has bred their dog and look at the living conditions of the dog it's up to you...

Also, ask how many litters the dog has had in the past... but don't make it sound like you are enquiring because you think they are a puppymill, as they WILL lie to you.

Check the condition of the mother, is she well fed, looked after, coat condition good, is generally happy?

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 03:39 AM
Yes, she sellsw her yorkies for very good prices. I have talked to her on the phone yesterday, and she really cares about yorkies. She has a rule that you can't take them to kennels (because they are so small) and everyone in the family has to help with the yorkie. She also emailed me pictures of te puppies and mother and where they live. She is also very nice, also, she lives only 20 min to 30 min away!

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 03:46 AM
That's great rockinsmile :)
Go and have a visit and get to know the pup before you buy it... it always pays to get to know their personality and double check everything :)

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 03:54 AM
Thats great rockinsmile :)
Go and have a visit and get to know the pup before you buy it... it always pays to get to know their personality and double check everything :)

Yes, I agree! I would never buy a pup without meeting it. Also, we're getting one on the larger side, and she's going to help us pick him/her house!

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 03:54 AM
When I said house I meant puppy! :)

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 03:56 AM
Susan is a very nice breeder. The reason she started breeding yorkies is: "I love yorkies so much and I wanted them to be a part of my life, and I get to make money from them so working with one of my favorite things in the world is like a job! Breeding is perfect for me, I really have always loved dogs."

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 04:00 AM
What is the best way to train a yorkie? Because of their small size, training is different from my previous dogs. My father has had a yorkie, but he forgot how they trained it. Are there any tips on training our yorkie? :D :)

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 04:02 AM
Training a yorkie is pretty mcuh the same as any size dog except much easier for toilet training etc because you can physically lift the puppy up to take it ouside.

There are quite a few dog training classes that operate and if you want your dog to learn basic commands they are well worth going to.

They are known to be very snappy dogs so obedience is a must :)

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 04:08 AM
Susan is a very nice breeder. The reason she started breeding yorkies is: "I love yorkies so much and I wanted them to be a part of my life, and I get to make money from them so working with one of my favorite things in the world is like a job! Breeding is perfect for me, I really have always loved dogs."

Mmmmm just be careful, I don't trust people who say they breed for money but you are the one who has talked to the lady and it is up to you to decide about her character :)
Just a few things to consider...

Does she do genetic testing (ie: tests for certain diseases/defects)?
Is she selective about who buys her puppies or is she willing to sell to anyone who wants one?

I'm not being horrible, I just want to try to make sure people are buying healthy. Happy puppies :)

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 04:13 AM
Here's a great site for teaching your dog basic commands and lead training...

Supercoat - Training Tips (http://www.supercoat.com.au/dogs-obedience.aspx)

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 04:22 AM
Mmmmm just be careful, I don't trust people who say they breed for money but you are the one who has talked to the lady and it is up to you to decide about her character :)
Just a few things to consider...

Does she do genetic testing (ie: tests for certain diseases/defects)?
Is she selective about who buys her puppies or is she willing to sell to anyone who wants one?

I'm not being horrible, I just want to try to make sure people are buying healthy. happy puppies :)

Yes, in my previous one, it says she doesn't sell to anyone, she has to meet the whole family, they can't be put into kennels (because of their small size) and everyone in the family has to want the yorkie and help take care of it.

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 05:24 AM
What aer some of the most common medical issues in yorkies? Are they easily treated? How often do you have to groom (bathe, brush teeth etc.) yorkies? Do you have to brust their hair every day?

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 05:31 AM
Try to avoid doing too many threads, you already have 3 on the same topic :)

Yes they do need regular grooming as they have a long silky coat. If you decide to have a clipped coat (reccomended) then you will need to clip about every 8 weeks and still brush regularly to remove dead coat.

One of the main issues Yorshire Terriers have is slipping patellas, this is where the knee cap slips out of place all the time. It can be fixed with surgery but if left can lead to arthritis.

Another common problem is retinal dysplasis, depending on the degree it can cause patial to full blindness.

Renal failure is also relatively common in the breed (kindney failure)

While I'm not saying this to scare you, it is just good to know what the hereditary problems common to the breed are :)

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 05:33 AM
Yes, in my previous one, it says she doesn't sell to anyone, she has to meet the whole family, they can't be put into kennels (because of their small size) and everyone in the family has to want the yorkie and help take care of it.

Ahhh sorry, must have been daydreaming when I read that post! :)

Curlyben
Apr 24, 2009, 08:04 AM
>Threads Merged<

Alty
Apr 24, 2009, 08:15 AM
Try to avoid doing too many threads, you already have 3 on the same topic :)

Yes they do need regular grooming as they have a long silky coat. If you decide to have a clipped coat (reccomended) then you will need to clip about every 8 weeks and still brush regularly to remove dead coat.

One of the main issues Yorshire Terriers have is slipping patellas, this is where the the knee cap slips out of place all the time. It can be fixed with surgery but if left can lead to arthritis.

Another common problem is retinal dysplasis, depending on the degree it can cause patial to full blindness.

Renal failure is also relatively common in the breed (kindney failure)

While I'm not saying this to scare you, it is just good to know what the hereditary problems common to the breed are :)

I'm quoting you Shaz because I think this post is great but I had to spread the love.

I have to mention that the above hereditary problems is why genetic testing on the male and female is so very important. You can't tell just from looking at a puppy whether it's healthy and will remain healthy.

Yorkies are one of those breeds that unfortunately have been inbred a lot.

Ask the breeder for the paperwork showing what the genetic testing discovered. If she didn't do genetic testing, well, she's not a legit breeder, just a want to be.

Just loving animals isn't enough for breeding. You have to have knowledge in order to breed responsibly and ensure that you breed nothing but the best quality pups. Too many people think that breeding just involves getting a male and female together and waiting for the pups to arrive.

I'm not saying that this person isn't nice, or that she's cruel, but she doesn't sound like a real breeder to me and the only one that will suffer is the pup and your pocket book.

Really check her out. I know it's hard to resist buying one of the pups, they're so cute, but when they start costing you thousands of dollars in vet bills, not so cute anymore.

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 08:23 AM
I couldn't give the good stuff either Alty but what you are saying is dead on...
I just wasn't as good at getting the point across lol :)

Alty
Apr 24, 2009, 08:39 AM
I couldn't give the good stuff either Alty but what you are saying is dead on...
I just wasn't as good at getting the point across lol :)

You got it across just fine, just thought I'd reiterate. :cool:

Silverfoxkit
Apr 24, 2009, 09:50 AM
I agree completely with Alty, sorry, had to spread the love. ;)


, and I get to make money from them

This threw up a major read flag when I read it. As I stated before, legit breeders DO NOT breed for profit and often put so much care into their animals they barely break even.

"Love" is not enough to breed dogs. Everyone can love a dog, but should everyone breed? Certainly not! This sounds like a backyard breeder to me. As nice as she may be, she does not sound like a legit breeder.

What is a Backyard Breeder? (http://home.comcast.net/~NoPuppyMillsVA/What_is_a_Backyard_Breeder_/what_is_a_backyard_breeder_.html)

rockinsmile089
Apr 24, 2009, 01:36 PM
"Love" is not enough to breed dogs. Everyone can love a dog, but should everyone breed? Certainly not! This sounds like a backyard breeder to me. As nice as she may be, she does not sound like a legit breeder.

What is a Backyard Breeder? (http://home.comcast.net/~NoPuppyMillsVA/What_is_a_Backyard_Breeder_/what_is_a_backyard_breeder_.html)[/QUOTE]

I just came back from visiting her house, and I did see the mother, father, paperwork, people she sold to, and where the puppies live. I do not mean to be rude, but your assumations are wrong :p

Alty
Apr 24, 2009, 01:38 PM
We never said she wasn't a breeder, we just said to make sure.

Some of the things you wrote set off a few alarms about this person.

What did the genetic testing show? Are the mom and dad disease and defect free? How far back does the bloodline go?

shazamataz
Apr 24, 2009, 11:32 PM
What did the genetic testing show? Are the mom and dad disease and defect free? How far back does the bloodline go?

That's the real test...