View Full Version : My furnace. Its off but it still keeps blowing air. Reset high temperature switch?
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 05:42 AM
Ok. My old thermostat was a digital one but without batterys, and the screen didn't work (wasnt displaying anything, could not see nothing) so I went Lowe's to buy a new one just today. I turned off the furnace and the breaker when I installed it. Everything went perfectly until I went upstair to turn the furnace on. I have my heater on and its only blowing air, not cold or hot. Just air, so I went to my thermostat to turn off the furnace but nothing. The thing still keeps blowing air even when I already turned off my thermostat. The only way I can turn my furnace off is my hitting the OFF and ON switch by my furnace.
The problem is that it did this before I replaced my old thermostat. I replaced it because I thought that was the problem but nope. Its still doing the samething as it was before. I can put it on heat or ac but the thing will still blow air out, again.. not cold nor hot. Just air. Fan is on AUTO on my thermostat.
My house is fairly new. Not sure if that helps but here is the Model number of my furnace: Bryant MODEL 310AAV/JAV. I think it's a gas furnace.
Oh yeah. There was a light flashing. It was flasking 3 times quickly then 3 times slowly
(333 3 3 3) That is what it looked like.
Here is what the code reads:
33, LIMIT CIRCUIT FAULT - Indicates the limit, drath safeguard, flame rollout, or blocked vent switch (if used) is open or the furnace is operating in high-heat only mode due to 2 seccessive low heat limit trips. Blower will run for 4 minutes or until open switch remakes whichever is longer. If open longer then 3 minutes, code changes to lockout #13. If open less then 3 minutes status code #33 continues to flash until blower shuts off. Flame rollout switch and BVSS require manual reset Check for:
-Recstricted vent
-Excessive wind
-loose blower wheel
-proper vent dizing
-dirty filter or restricted duct system
-Defective blower motor or capacitor
-defective switch or connections
-inadequate combustion air supply (flame roll-out switch open)
Im really thankful for the help. Being a single mother of 3, it's a bit hard to pay those high repair bills.
Thanks. Kati.
Oh yeah, Someone told me it could be that I need to reset high temperature switch. Anyone have an idea onto where this could be located?
Joshdta
Apr 23, 2009, 05:53 AM
Sounds like a high limit problem. How is your filter?
Joshdta
Apr 23, 2009, 05:54 AM
Turn you power off to yor unit and look for this.
http://www.hvacpartsoutlet.com/ProductImages/RSLHH12ZB220.jpg
Joshdta
Apr 23, 2009, 05:55 AM
Then with the power off tap it between the wirs with a screw driver or something gently. This limit is supposed to reset itsself but sometimes if they are over heated it will stick.
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 06:25 AM
Would you happen to know where this might be located?
Should I open the furnace doors or is it in the attic?
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 06:27 AM
My filter has just been replaced yesterday. Its new. Brb while I go look for the image you showed.
Thanks for the help.
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 08:25 AM
Okay, Been looking for it for almost an hour and I think I might of found it.
There are 2 red wires connected to it and there isn't a reset button. They are two screws to the side of out. Im not sure if I should remove the screws and pull out the part. Im not sure if it's long from the back as it shows on the picture you linked me. I found it in front of my furnace.
Another thing is that its connect to the air vent. The blower is below. Here is a picture I found on the internet along with where I think it might be at.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9030/ssde.jpg
Also, There are 2 red wires connected to something where the image above says the number 7. You can see it at the buttom of the vent there is a little device.
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 11:38 AM
Bryant Plus 80 Manual (http://www.scribd.com/doc/288676/Bryant-Plus-80-Manual) Here's a online guide of my furnace.
Joshdta
Apr 23, 2009, 01:13 PM
That's should be the right one. In the front of your furnace right above the gas valve
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 01:55 PM
Okay, I hope that was the correct thing I was tapping but now the code changed to code 13.
13 LIMIT CIRCUIT LOCKUT - Lockout occurs if the limit, draft safeguard, flameroll out, ore blocked vent switch (if used) is open longer than 3 minutes or 10 seccessive limit trips occurred durning high heat.
-Control will auto reset after three hours
-Refer to #33,
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 01:58 PM
Maybe I wasn't tapping the correct thing? Hmm, Its right behind the gas valve.
omgnowaykati
Apr 23, 2009, 02:31 PM
OK, I went back and heard a clicking sound if I moved each wire connected to the High limit control switch up and down glently. If it helps I can take some photos of my furnace all around.
Im REALLY grateful for all the help and thanks for hanging in there with me. Lol :)
Joshdta
Apr 23, 2009, 04:59 PM
OK sometimes the conectons there get coroted may be they just need cleaned. Also there are lots of small limmits with red reset bottons in the middle of them. Check to see if any of them are out just press them back in the will click.
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 03:07 PM
Hmm, there is just 1 that I see and its connected to nothing, Just connected to the side of a steel plate, I tried to push it in but it doesn't click or anything. Let me take some pictures.
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 03:17 PM
OK lets try something else and you tell me what happens
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 03:18 PM
I will give you the order of operation and you tell me what step does not work OK
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 03:43 PM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2189/dscf4283.jpg
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omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 03:45 PM
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4287.jpg
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 03:47 PM
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4290.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4289.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4287.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4286.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4284.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4283.jpg
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 03:50 PM
On the 3rd picture, That is the only reset switch I can see but it doesn't click or no anything but go in and out really.
All the other red circles is the place where I was banging with a screw driver.
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 04:37 PM
Did you check to make sure nothing happened to your vent outside?
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 04:38 PM
There is also a reset in the bottom door in the blower compartment on some furnaces.
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 06:20 PM
Nope. Nothing is wrong with the outside vent. Im going to go check the blower compartment and snap some photos of that as well.
Thanks
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 06:27 PM
OK. Does the vent motor spin fast when you first turn it on? No rubing or grinding or anything like there might be something in it?
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 06:51 PM
Nope, Nothing grinds.I just got done checking to see if there was anything in there and nothing. I couldn't find a switch of any sort. Here's a picture.
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Picture074.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Picture075.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Picture077.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Picture076.jpg
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Picture084.jpg
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 06:56 PM
Another thing, That fan in the left top corner is always spinning even if it furnace if off. Not sure if that would/could be a problem.
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/Furnace/DSCF4284.jpg
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 06:56 PM
Well it looks like there is nothing in the bottom door so you can put it back on.
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 06:57 PM
When you first reset your unit. The vent motor comes on? Then does anything else happen before it starts flashing 33? Or does the blower motor just start running and nothing else?
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:00 PM
From what I have seen in your pictures all the sfty switchs have the red wires going to them. Execpt for the pressure switch.
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 07:06 PM
Here's what happens when I first turn on the furnace.
- 3-5 Sec wait time till the Blower Turns on sounds normal... like the AC is running
- 5 seconds after the blower turns on a flashing code 33 starts to flash.
I go to my thermostat to turn off or on the furnace but nothing, I have no control over my furnace with my new thermostat. The old t-stat didn't have batterys and it wasn't reading the Degree inside the house nor would it show anything, It seemed to be dead.
But with the old t-stat it would do the exact samething, The furnace would not turn on unless I hit the ON switch on the furnace.
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 07:09 PM
None of the red wires that I can see have a switch of some sort. There is only 1 switch that I'm able to push in.
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 07:10 PM
Should I try to install my old thermostat back? Could there be a reason why my old t-stat was not working since it didn't come with batterys?
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:11 PM
It still sonund to me like it is the limt behing the gas valve. Turn the power off. That the 2 wires off it. Put the two wires together and turn the power back on see if it runs
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:13 PM
Take off the stat and tell me what wires you have going to what terminals
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 07:13 PM
Okay, Going to go try that.
Again, Thanks for helping me this far. :)
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:14 PM
No probem anything I can do to help. Just hope we can get it fixed for you
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 07:19 PM
Okay, I tried what you said and that seemed to work. I now have control over my furnace I think, It doesn't power up anymore, Do you want me to turn the heater or AC to see if it works?
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:22 PM
Furnace
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:23 PM
For heat
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 07:29 PM
OK going to go try that.
Here's a picture of where the wires go to, on the wires I just disconnected there is 1 red wire going to the switch with a button and 1 red wire going into the blower door. Here's a quick picture.
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/omwnowaykati/DSCF4286.jpg
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:33 PM
Yep that is the one I think it is. Make sure the wires can not touch any metal.
omgnowaykati
Apr 24, 2009, 07:36 PM
Nothing, Doesn't turn on.
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:39 PM
Is it flashing a code again?
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:40 PM
And you have the 2 wires pluged onto each other? 2 make a contenius loop?
Joshdta
Apr 24, 2009, 07:43 PM
Do you have AOL or aim? You can message me direct if you like it is faster.
amaljeni
Nov 20, 2010, 12:03 PM
Hi,
How did u fix it, I have the same problem.
Leo
amaljeni
Nov 20, 2010, 12:39 PM
Thanks guys,
I turn-on the switch an press the reset button. Started working now. All this posting are very good.
Thanks you very much,