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mertkz
Apr 14, 2009, 10:05 AM
Hi,
I live in Michigan and I am searching for a lab/schnauzer mix breeder. I would also adopt a rescue of this mix pup, but my guess is that will be hard to come by. Anyone know of contacts in the surrounding areas of MI for this dog?
I noticed on one posted questions someone got their dog from the Chicago area?
Thank you!

shazamataz
Apr 14, 2009, 10:15 AM
The only way to obtain this particular mix would be to find one in a shelter.
Registered breeders are not allowed to breed cross-bred dogs.
They have more genetic problems than pure-bred dogs and are bred by backyard breeders.
I know they make up cute little names for cross-breds like schnoodles or maltypoos etc but these dogs more often than not have underlying problems.
I'm sorry for the rant but people who intentionally breed mixed breed dogs make me so angry!

GJbean
Jun 19, 2009, 08:12 AM
I live near you and would LOVE to have a schnauzer / lab mix puppy or two! So maybe a breeder will read these posts and respond.

IGNORE the previous poster. There are virtually NO schnauzers in rescues.

We have allergy issues in our home (yes we have tried solutions and they did not work). We want the lab/schnauzer mix for allergies and for other reasons, which we do not have to explain.

Soooo, if there is a breeder out there, looks like you have a couple of customers.

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 10:41 AM
Soooo, if there is a breeder out there, looks like you have a couple of customers.

Again, PLEASE do not encourage backyard breeders buy advertising that you want to buy one of their problem ridden mutts...

Have either of you checked your local shelter for dogs?
There are literally hundreds to choose from and you might save a special little guy from being put to death.

Just Dahlia
Jun 19, 2009, 11:00 AM
Labs shed, that wouldn't be good for allergies.

Just Dahlia
Jun 19, 2009, 11:06 AM
POSTED by Gjbean[
"IGNORE the previous poster. There are virtually NO schnauzers in rescues."


It's really not nice to advise people to ignore others:(

Everyone has their own opinion and can make up there own mind, that's why they are here for answers.

And Shaz is very knowledgeable, she knows what she is talking about.:)

Sumewhereintime
Jun 19, 2009, 11:24 AM
SOUNDS LIKE PREACHING TO ME!! Not an answer, just an opinion.

If you want to POST A SEPARATE subject then do it.

The question here is about where to find a lab schnauzer mix. Last I checked we were still in America.

ZoeMarie
Jun 19, 2009, 11:26 AM
Why don't you go to the animal rescue site and do a search?

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 11:33 AM
POSTED by Gjbean[
"IGNORE the previous poster. There are virtually NO schnauzers in rescues."


It's really not nice to advise people to ignore others:(

Everyone has their own opinion and can make up there own mind, that's why they are here for answers.

And Shaz is very knowledgable, she knows what she is talking about.:)

Thank you Dahlia :)
I tried to give you a greenie but I had to spread the rep.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I personally refuse to advise people to buy from backyard breeders.
I have a sticky about backyard breeders and puppy mills at the top of the 'dogs' page. You would do well to read it 'somewhereintime'

Just Dahlia
Jun 19, 2009, 11:53 AM
The question here is about where to find a lab schnauzer mix. Last I checked we were still in America.[/quote]


Actually a lot of people on this sight are not in America:rolleyes:

Just Dahlia
Jun 19, 2009, 11:57 AM
Shaz, I can't find your 'Sticky':confused:

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 12:16 PM
Shaz, I can't find your 'Sticky':confused:

It's in the "useful picees from out members" thread...

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/various-pieces-useful-information-about-dogs-our-members-318391.html
Go to the link I posted in that thread, it is a great site explaining how bad backyard breeders are.

On a side note, I have another backyard breed lover in another thread... I don't know why I bother sometimes...
They deserve to have an unhealthy mutt.

Sariss
Jun 19, 2009, 01:17 PM
You will be unable to find a breeder that breeds this mix, unless it has become a 'designer mutt'. And if it has, I would steer clear of these so called breeders, as they will charge an arm and a leg for a dog that you could rescue from a shelter.

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 01:27 PM
You will be unable to find a breeder that breeds this mix, unless it has become a 'designer mutt'. And if it has, I would steer clear of these so called breeders, as they will charge an arm and a leg for a dog that you could rescue from a shelter.

Yes, I went into our local pet store the other day and they were selling "Spoodles" (My poor beloved breed has been defiled) the cross-breds were selling for $500... yes $500 more than the purebreds...
They wanted $1500 for these mutts!
I was horrified, we charge less than that for our purbred Mini Poodles! And I am sure they don't health test like we do!
Not only that but they are claiming they are "hypoallergenic!"
What a crock!

Just Dahlia
Jun 19, 2009, 01:34 PM
What's a Spoodle?:confused:

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 01:40 PM
What's a Spoodle?:confused:

Spaniel x Poodle...
The particular "Spaniel" varies depending on the breeder... usually a Cocker Spaniel :rolleyes:

Sariss
Jun 19, 2009, 01:42 PM
Here, those are called Cockapoos. :P
Then there's Labradoodles, Golden Doodles, Schnoodles, Chi-Poos, Yorkie-Poos, MaltiPoos... ugh

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 01:45 PM
Here, those are called Cockapoos. :P
Then theres Labradoodles, Golden Doodles, Schnoodles, Chi-Poos, Yorkie-Poos, MaltiPoos... ugh

Ahhh yes... sorry! Not sure what spaniel it is then!
It's awful, just because my breed has "poo" in the name they think it's funny to mix them :(

There were two names that made me chuckle though...
Havanese x Poodle... "Have a poo"
Borzoi x Afghan... "Bogan" (for those who don't know 'bogan' is Australian slang for basically someone from a trailor park!)

After the initial chuckle wore off though I was sad again...

Just Dahlia
Jun 19, 2009, 01:47 PM
My neighbor has a Labradoodle. It looks like a giant Schnauzer:eek:
But it is very friendly:)

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 01:49 PM
My neighbor has a Labradoodle. It looks like a giant Schnauzer:eek:
But it is very friendly:)

There is a "breeder" here for Labradoodles, they even advertise on television...
Really most of them just look like standard poodles without their faces clipped.

Only about half of the puppies end up being non-allergy (just a random fact)

Catsmine
Jun 19, 2009, 02:06 PM
It's worse than you think, Shazzy

American Canine Hybrid Club, ACHC (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americancaninehybridclub.htm)

Just Dahlia
Jun 19, 2009, 02:48 PM
That's amazing! but the Poochon and the Bolonoodle were really cute:eek:

You shouldn't be encouraging people with cute puppy pictures, it's just wrong.;):D

Catsmine
Jun 19, 2009, 02:57 PM
The puppies are adorable. DUH! All puppies are. It's these parasites trying to make a buck off these cute little animals later suffering that chaps my shorts.

Sumewhereintime
Jun 19, 2009, 06:21 PM
Guess this makes you all feel very important. So glad for you.

Still looking for that schnauzer/lab mix. If you all don't shut up, I might breed my own.

AND WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU RESCUED A DOG?? Yea I thought so. A dog becomes a part of the family.

For the record, you PREACHERS, we are volunteers in a dog rescue. We will be happy to take the right dog from a rescue, but we have not found one.

Get up off the couch and do something instead of judging other people and telling them the way you think they should act. Clean up your own act first.

Oh, got a line on a breeder. Thanks for all of the activity.

Sariss
Jun 19, 2009, 07:02 PM
Good on you. :)
I may not volunteer at a dog rescue, but as a Vet Tech I spent much of my time during my schooling at high-kill shelters, and that made me what I am when it comes to breeders. I did not enjoy euthanizing litters of 8 week old puppies every week.
And all my dogs (and cats) have been rescues, thank you very much.

And which rescue do you volunteer for? I'd love to see some of the dogs they have, and to see if all of the people who volunteer have the same attitude as you.

I'm also interested in the breeder you found (which is odd since at the beginning of your post you acted as if you had not found one yet, but by the end, you had). What kind of prices are there for their dogs?

Sariss
Jun 19, 2009, 07:26 PM
In response to the OP, here is a cute boy I found. He's about two and a half hours out of Chicago.

Adopt a Black Labrador Retriever: Dalton: Petfinder (http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=13866178)

Catsmine
Jun 19, 2009, 07:36 PM
Guess this makes you all feel very important. So glad for you.

Still looking for that schnauzer/lab mix. If you all don't shut up, I might breed my own.

AND WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU RESCUED A DOG??? yea I thought so. A dog becomes a part of the family.

For the record, you PREACHERS, we are volunteers in a dog rescue. We will be happy to take the right dog from a rescue, but we have not found one.

get up off the couch and do something instead of judging other people and telling them the way you think they should act. Clean up your own act first.

oh, got a line on a breeder. thanks for all of the activity.

I've been rescuing dogs since 1977. My family has been breeding pure bred animals since 1960. Right now we have a cocker mix from the pound and are looking at a Rottie.
I truly hope you and your "breeder" enjoy the same treatment that the "breeder" Michael Vick got.

teachnk
Jun 19, 2009, 08:28 PM
Look at this cutie in Indiana! What a handful. I love how honest and responsible this rescue foster home is - otherwise this crazy pup might be bouncing from home to rescue... or worse.
Adopt a Schnauzer: Jack - S.IN.: Petfinder (http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=13920146)

Sumewhereintime, I know you are obviously very young - but you need to understand that loving animals means defending them and fighting the irresponsible breeding that contributes to so many deaths and health issues. I find it difficult to believe you work with a rescue and haven't found the "right" dog. Seriously? You want someone to breed a mutt for you... so that those rescue dogs can take up foster homes while other dogs die in shelters. I have a rescue mutt now, and I even had a "pet store" full bred dog, that I unknowingly fell in love with 17 years ago - when I was way too young to know better. With time, as you mature, you'll begin to understand why some are so passionate, even if you don't like the "tone".

simoneaugie
Jun 19, 2009, 09:58 PM
Szit-poos are the best named mixed breed. I'd like to see a Chi-dane sometime... Would it have health problems?

shazamataz
Jun 19, 2009, 10:50 PM
Szit-poos are the best named mixed breed. I'd like to see a Chi-dane sometime...Would it have health problems?

I'm not sure to be honest...
The mother would have to be the Great Dane obviously.
I looked it up a while ago and found this very strange looking puppy... I don't know if it was real or not.

Catsmine - there's a whole Hybrid club?? Good lord.
Last dog we adopted was a fair while ago I admit, but we have adopted several dogs before (A terrier mix and a great dane)
I adopted a rabbit from the pound earlier this year though.

Sumewhereintime
Jun 20, 2009, 06:44 AM
The land of the free and the home of the brave.. . when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.

We have the right to make decisions for our family. We have the right to buy the dog we want from the breeder we want.

There is nothing ethically wrong with that. We don't have to rescue a dog from a pound if it is not the right dog for our human family.

If that is where you want to get your pets FINE FOR YOU. You have absolutely no right to try to DEMAND what my family does. Are you getting any of this?

IF we could find a schnauzer/lab mix we would adopt one.

If not, we will buy one.

By the way, try to help some humans too. If this is how you respond to humans, I can only imagine how you respond to dogs.

shazamataz
Jun 20, 2009, 07:17 AM
I don't live in the "land of the free and home of the brave"

Yes you are entitled to your opinion.

Yes you are entitled to buy a dog where you choose.

But no, it is not ethically correct to buy from a backyard breeder, no matter how much you tell yourself that.

Sariss
Jun 20, 2009, 04:16 PM
Sorry, Shaz and I both don't live in America. :)

I'm still kind of interested in the answers to those questions you skirted past, though..

And I respond fine to humans, when they aren't having a hissy fit thousands of miles away in front of a computer.

jenniepepsi
Jun 20, 2009, 04:40 PM
You know summer, if you don't want the advise from people
when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.

Then I suggest, you Don't COME TO AN ONLINE BOARD.

:) thank you :) respectfully and lovingly yours

Jennie

JoeCanada76
Jun 20, 2009, 04:44 PM
I do not live in United states either.
Good advice Jenniepepsi.

Alty
Jun 21, 2009, 05:46 PM
The land of the free and the home of the brave . . .when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.

We have the right to make decisions for our family. We have the right to buy the dog we want from the breeder we want.

There is nothing ethically wrong with that. We don't have to rescue a dog from a pound if it is not the right dog for our human family.

If that is where you want to get your pets FINE FOR YOU. You have absolutely no right to try to DEMAND what my family does. Are you getting any of this?

IF we could find a schnauzer/lab mix we would adopt one.

If not, we will buy one.

By the way, try to help some humans too. If this is how you respond to humans, I can only imagine how you respond to dogs.

Get off your high horse, this is a world wide site on the world wide web, it's not just for Americans.

You do have the right to get a dog that fits your family, what we're saying is that no legitimate breeder breeds mixes, so you won't find a legit breeder for a mixed breed. The people who breed those dogs are either puppymill owners or backyard breeders, both are in it only for the money and they don't give a damn about the dogs in their care.

If you want a dog that may have genetic defects or other health problems then go for it, we can't stop you from supporting people that are responsible for the deaths of millions of dogs each year, and yes, that's in America!

Just so you know, I have 3 dogs, one from an oops pregnancy of a friend of ours (he did everything right to prevent his female from become pregnant but it didn't work), one from the shelter (he was abused, fearful and on death row, he's been a member of our family for almost 7 years now) and one purebred from a legitimate breeder.

I also have 4 bunnies, all except 1 are rescues.

I volunteered at the human society for a long time, but my heart couldn't take it anymore and I was running out of room for all the animals I brought home with me.

So preach to someone you have a right to preach to, but don't preach to the wonderful people on this site, you don't even begin to compare to them.

JudyKayTee
Jun 22, 2009, 02:24 PM
The land of the free and the home of the brave . . .when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.

We have the right to make decisions for our family. We have the right to buy the dog we want from the breeder we want.

There is nothing ethically wrong with that. We don't have to rescue a dog from a pound if it is not the right dog for our human family.

If that is where you want to get your pets FINE FOR YOU. You have absolutely no right to try to DEMAND what my family does. Are you getting any of this?

IF we could find a schnauzer/lab mix we would adopt one.

If not, we will buy one.

By the way, try to help some humans too. If this is how you respond to humans, I can only imagine how you respond to dogs.



What lives under a bridge?

Alty
Jun 22, 2009, 02:58 PM
What lives under a bridge?

I know, I know.

A troll. :)

What do I win?

Catsmine
Jun 22, 2009, 03:21 PM
I know, I know.

A troll. :)

What do I win?

The pleasure of editing the video.

Alty
Jun 22, 2009, 03:46 PM
The pleasure of editing the video.

Isn't that a lose?

How is that a win?

What video?

Okay, staying away all weekend means a lot of confusion when I get back. :eek:

Catsmine
Jun 22, 2009, 04:44 PM
Isn't that a lose?

How is that a win?

What video?

Okay, staying away all weekend means alot of confusion when I get back. :eek:

:: strutting ::

I got Alty!!

Alty
Jun 22, 2009, 04:55 PM
:: strutting ::

I got Alty!!!

Don't get too cocky Mister, I have many tricks up my sleeve.

:: pout, pout, pout::

tickle
Jun 26, 2009, 03:16 AM
I just fell into this thread and thought I would take it to the end. OP was just misinformed on her search for a lab/schnauzer mix. I hope she found one, it would be a lovely pup.

With all due respect to all of you lovely informed people, there was a lot of 'ganging up' here and it did get quite nasty at times. I am surprised at all of you really for doing that. We all have to practice restraint in a situation like this and when the OP feels threatened by all of this, he/she is going to come back with rejoiners that get the ire up. It is only natural.

I don't think she was a troll JKT.

I stay out of these issues because they don't go anywhere.

Respectfuilly submitted

Tick

JudyKayTee
Jun 26, 2009, 07:24 AM
I dont think she was a troll JKT.

I stay out of these issues because they dont go anywhere.

respectfuilly submitted

tick



That is my assumption based on ALL her posts and argumentative rants, not just on this thread.

And, of course, you are certainly entitled to express your opinion.

Respectfully right back at you,

Judy

tickle
Jun 26, 2009, 07:36 AM
That is my assumption based on ALL her posts and argumentative rants, not just on this thread.

And, of course, you are certainly entitled to express your opinion.

Respectfully right back at you,

Judy

As far as I can see she only posted once according to your profile. Are you saying she has more then one profile ?

Tick

JudyKayTee
Jun 26, 2009, 07:41 AM
as far as I can see she only posted once according to your profile. Are you saying she has more then one profile ?

tick



She's posted once according to my profile? I don't know what you mean.

I see that she's posted 8 times and had a couple others pulled and not counted.

Are we talking about the same person?

Alty
Jun 26, 2009, 08:51 AM
I just fell into this thread and thought I would take it to the end. OP was just misinformed on her search for a lab/schnauzer mix. I hope she found one, it would be a lovely pup.

Tickle, you know I adore you, but I have to disagree.

She wasn't misinformed. No legitimate breeder breeds mixes.

Legitimate breeders breed to keep the bloodlines strong, to improve on the breed of the dog, to put forth the best quality dogs. Mixing breeds isn't something a legit breeder does, because there's no point to it.

Mixed breeds don't qualify for dog shows, awards, etc. etc. They don't have pure bloodlines because they aren't a specific breed.

Can the OP get a puppy with the mix she wants? Yes, of course she can. Can she get one from a licensed qualified breeder? No.

There are many backyard breeders and puppy mills that will put forth mixed breeds. I cannot condone buying from these types of organizations because it's an epidemic that kills millions of dogs every year. Backyard breeders are horrible. They don't test for genetic defects, they don't care about blood lines and often they don't even know how to care for a pregnant dam or her pups. Most of these dogs end up in shelters, many never leave.

As long as there are backyard breeders and puppy mills there will be full shelters and garbage bins full of dead dogs that never find their forever homes.

I'm not against mixed breeds, I have two myself, but I am against funding the people who "breed" them.

Shelters are the way to go.

Catsmine
Jun 26, 2009, 08:54 AM
Judy, Tickle, I think you two are referring to different posters.

Tickle refers to the original poster Mertkz.

JKT refers to the argumentative Sumewhereintime.

JudyKayTee
Jun 26, 2009, 09:22 AM
Yes, Sumewhereintime is definitely one of the pests you should control -

tickle
Jun 26, 2009, 09:29 AM
Okay, gotcha. Will keep my eyes peeled. I minsinterpreted, probably didn't read everything. I had thought it was new poster mertkz.

Glad you corrected me.

Tick

JudyKayTee
Jun 26, 2009, 09:35 AM
okay, gotcha. Will keep my eyes peeled. I minsinterpreted, probably didnt read everything. I had thought it was new poster mertkz.

Glad you corrected me.

tick


No problem - I should have quoted the "troll."

Catsmine
Jun 26, 2009, 12:36 PM
Yes, Sumewhereintime is definitely one of the pests you should control -

I'm willing to discuss a fee for services contract.
I don't kill things for fun, not even trolls.

JudyKayTee
Jun 26, 2009, 01:17 PM
I'm willing to discuss a fee for services contract.
I don't kill things for fun, not even trolls.

I'm not talking about killing - I'm talking about a stun gun.

Catsmine
Jun 26, 2009, 02:16 PM
I'm not talking about killing - I'm talking about a stun gun.

You didn't know trolls are immune to tasers?

mrsCtouall
Jul 6, 2009, 07:41 PM
I actually have a Lab/Schnauzer mix, his name is Percy. I found him in a local resue. He is the size of a large lab-85-90 lbs. and looks like a Schnauzer in the face! Very luvable boy.

Catsmine
Jul 7, 2009, 02:55 AM
I actually have a Lab/Schnauzer mix, his name is Percy. I found him in a local resue. He is the size of a large lab-85-90 lbs. and looks like a Schnauzer in the face! Very luvable boy.

I wish you and Percy a long and happy time together. Thank you for saving him. The philistines that breed mutts for profit I wish would find honest work.

tickle
Jul 7, 2009, 04:32 AM
I once had a lab/airedale cross and her face was airedale. Unfortunately her lab dad was a bit weird, so she was too.

There is a Giant Schnauzer, about the same size as a Bouvier de Flanders, roughly 80 lbs. tops. So you probably have the giant version/lab cross, that's why he is so big.

Schnauzers come in basically three sizes, my Tessie was in between at about 40 lbs.

You have the best of both worlds, then, lab/schnauzer would be a very smart cookie of the canine world.

All terrier breeds were used in the First World War as messengers because of their courage and intelligence. Schnauzers make good rescue dogs as well. I have a fondness for all terriers.

Tick

shazamataz
Jul 7, 2009, 04:40 AM
I have a fondness for all terriers.

tick

Lab/airedale would be an interesting mix.

I have a soft spot for Scottish Terriers, beautiful dogs.

Alty
Jul 7, 2009, 09:42 AM
I have a lab/border collie mix, poor dear has a lab body and a border collie face, no collar will fit, his neck and head are the same size.

I have a border collie crossed with God only knows what.

I have my little beagle. Funny story about that. We've been saving up to get him neutered. He's going in soon. We went on a walk the other day and this lady with two beagles came running up to us, kneels down in front of Chewy, lets out a high squeal and says "Thank goodness, he's male and intact. How much for stud services?"

What! I kept my calm, told her that I don't allow my animals to breed, he'll be neutered soon. She insisted. So I decided to have some fun.

I asked how many years of breeding experience she had. She said it would be her first time.

I asked if she'd be paying for the genetic testing that Chewy would require. She said she wasn't doing that.

I asked many other questions, she failed on every one.

I finally gave her a look and said "Sorry, but I don't agree with backyard breeding" I then went on to give her a lecture about backyard breeding, puppymills, irresponsible owners. You know how I am.

She left in a huff.

My work here is done. :)

shazamataz
Jul 7, 2009, 09:55 AM
Hahaha, well done Alty!

Mum will love that story :D

Catsmine
Jul 7, 2009, 05:02 PM
I have a lab/border collie mix, poor dear has a lab body and a border collie face, no collar will fit, his neck and head are the same size.

I have a border collie crossed with God only knows what.

I have my little beagle. Funny story about that. We've been saving up to get him neutered. He's going in soon. We went on a walk the other day and this lady with two beagles came running up to us, kneels down in front of Chewy, lets out a high squeal and says "Thank goodness, he's male and intact. How much for stud services?"

What!? I kept my calm, told her that I don't allow my animals to breed, he'll be neutered soon. She insisted. So I decided to have some fun.

I asked how many years of breeding experience she had. She said it would be her first time.

I asked if she'd be paying for the genetic testing that Chewy would require. She said she wasn't doing that.

I asked many other questions, she failed on each and every one.

I finally gave her a look and said "Sorry, but I don't agree with backyard breeding" I then went on to give her a lecture about backyard breeding, puppymills, irresponsible owners. You know how I am.

She left in a huff.

My work here is done. :)

Just sit back and let the applause roll in. HUZZAH!!!

Alty
Jul 7, 2009, 05:05 PM
Just sit back and let the applause roll in. HUZZAH!!!

Oh I'm sure she wanted to clap her hands, on my face! ;)

It felt good. Sadly, I'm sure it won't stop her.

Ignorant people don't usually listen. That's evident every time a wannabe breeder comes to this site.

They just want to hear what they want to hear. They don't care about the millions of dogs dying because of their ingnorance, stupidity and greed.

Catsmine
Jul 7, 2009, 05:15 PM
They don't care about the millions of dogs dying because of their ingnorance, stupidity and greed.

I'm being nice. I am. I'm not going to post about wishing long painful diseases and desecrated graves on hateful people that exploit animals for nothing.

Alty
Jul 7, 2009, 05:21 PM
I'm being nice. I am. I'm not going to post about wishing long painful diseases and desecrated graves on hateful people that exploit animals for nothing.

Trust me Cats, I often bite my tongue.

If only I could say what I really feel.

Animals are living, breathing, feeling, loving beings. They give so much of themselves and all most humans do is take, take, take.

There are so many homeless unwanted dogs in the world right now. Not only dogs, but all different types of animals, all because of human greed.

Any person that knows about the suffering of these animals and still breeds (without being a licensed breeder) does not deserve to own an animal.

Heck, the word own makes me mad too. I don't "own" my fur babies. I share my life with them. I am blessed that they share their lives with me.

Okay, I'm off my soapbox.

Sorry. :o

Just Dahlia
Jul 7, 2009, 05:23 PM
Ignorant people don't usually listen. That's evident every time a wannabe breeder comes to this site.

They just want to hear what they want to hear. They don't care about the millions of dogs dying because of their ingnorance, stupidity and greed.

I was ignorant and I learned, I also remember another person who wanted to get a dog from her daughter, and you and Shaz convinced her not to breed, you would find her a dog (she had special problems) :)

I have been reading since Jan 09 and even if it was just 2 people you convinced, it was worth the effort in my opinion.

Please keep it up, I have been singing yours and everybody else's song since I became aware. It really is just ignorance, which I was. :o

Catsmine
Jul 7, 2009, 05:26 PM
Trust me Cats, I often bite my tongue.

If only I could say what I really feel.

Animals are living, breathing, feeling, loving beings. They give so much of themselves and all most humans do is take, take, take.

There are so many homeless unwanted dogs in the world right now. Not only dogs, but all different types of animals, all because of human greed.

Any person that knows about the suffering of these animals and still breeds (without being a licensed breeder) does not deserve to own an animal.

Heck, the word own makes me mad too. I don't "own" my fur babies. I share my life with them. I am blessed that they share their lives with me.

Okay, I'm off my soapbox.

Sorry. :o

Our opinions diverge here, dear. Humans are just as much animals as dogs. I simply cannot abide the irresponsibility of supposedly thinking animals.

shazamataz
Jul 8, 2009, 01:51 AM
I was ignorant and I learned, I also remember another person who wanted to get a dog from her daughter, and you and Shaz convinced her not to breed, you would find her a dog (she had special problems) :)

I have been reading since Jan 09 and even if it was just 2 people you convinced, it was worth the effort in my opinion.

Please keep it up, I have been singing yours and everybody elses song since I became aware. It really is just ignorance, which I was. :o

Exactly right, even if we manage to convince just one person not to breed their dog then that is 6 puppies that would never have been born and 6 puppies that would be saved in a shelter somewhere.

For some people it is not ignorance, they genuinely don't see the damage they are doing.
Especially with people who "just want one litter" or their dog "deserves to be a mother" they just do not realise. Hopefully we can educate people and show them that their dogs do not need to be bred, explain the enormous cost involved with health testing as well as the risks of pregnancy and birth.

Dogdays
Jan 7, 2010, 03:23 PM
I have a black Lab /standard schnauzer mix that we got at a shelter a year ago. 3.5 years old. We are her third home and while we adore her she has been challenging. Very high energy. She was an escape artist as well. We exercise her a lot and have been through 3 obedience classes with her as well as changing our landscaping a bit. We had to be very committed to solving these issues with her to make her a safe and positive member of our family. We are there now. I loved her from the moment I saw her and she is very loyal and loving back. Looks like a lab only with higher set ears and a cute scruffy beard. Has the schnauzer personality not the lab. She is a lot of dog and we had to adjust our home and lifestyle to her as did our purebred lab.

shazamataz
Jan 7, 2010, 05:16 PM
Dogdays, you are the reason I do like mixed breeds.
When people adopt them from shelters it gives them another chance at life.
Thank you for adopting and working with her to make her part of your family.

tickle
Jan 7, 2010, 05:58 PM
Schnauzy is our favourite breed, my son and me. I am seeing them more so in town, the standard breed. All around dog, used during the war for their terrier intellligence, along with Airedales. During the first world war they were called the
Thinking man's dog'; this probably means because the breed can second guess, and I think they could have.

They are worth a small fortune for the working person here. Probably $700 800 dollars for a registered pup. I am keeping my eyes open in the shelters though and may come up with a terrier mix, or quite possible a Schnauzer for us again. It doesn't necessarily have to be a pup, our previous Schnauzer was a rescue my son and I made, and she was already seven when we got that lovely lady, as with our Walker hound, taffy.

Tick

Aurora_Bell
Jan 8, 2010, 08:02 AM
Well thought I'd jump on the band wagon and kill some time by talking about me! :D
Alty I LOVED the way you handled lostintime or lostinspace or what ever the name was, good job!
Anyway, I am thinking of adopting a lab boxer mix, sad story, this lady moved to the Town I live in and she was selling Laboxers on Kijiji, I would not support this type of thing, but I ran across the add on my daily searches for.. well... anything. Anyway, she stated in her add she had 6 wonderful "Vet checked and approved" Laboxers, LOL and this is a quote: "pure bred Boxer and Lab pup only $600.00 each". I know it's not funny, but I do find it funny how she claims to have pure bred mixed breed. :s anyway, a month or so later I was in our local SPCA dropping of some dog food, and doing the usual walk around (I try to go once a week to take some of the dogs for a walk) and I saw some new arrivals, can you imagine my surprise when I saw 5 PURE BRED LABOXERS there?
Yup apparently the woman dropped them off along with the Mama, saying it wasn't her dog, she found it running loose in her yard, decided to take the dog in and feed her, when she realized she was pregnant, well her son amazingly developed allergies, and along with the 3 cats they already have, she couldn't afford to take on more mouths to feed.
So... even though Lady has shown some doggy aggression before, the trainer that I am using seems to think she would be OK with puppies, as my girl was a product of a puppy mill her self, so this week end we are going down to see how she gets on with one of them.
Anyway, that's my story, sorry it's so long!

Alty
Jan 22, 2010, 09:40 AM
Purebred laboxers, LOL! ;)

You do realize that we're going to need pictures. Right? ;)

tickle
Jan 22, 2010, 12:32 PM
Pure bred Lab Boxers. I don't think so. They would need to come with papers, recognizing the sire and dam and be recognized by the American Kennel Club, and after that the Canadian Kennel Club. Do you know how difficult it is to get new breeds recognized. It takes years !

I hope you are kidding, Alty, a pics would do no good, I mean, they may be a lovely looking animal, but that is that as it could go.

Tick

Aurora_Bell
Jan 22, 2010, 12:35 PM
LOL tickel, we were being funny.
I was trying to show how stupid it sounded, that this woman was trying to sell "pure bred Laboxers" and how terribly sad it was that most of them ended up in the Shelter.
I was trying to say that people will call their mutts anything to make $$$$

tickle
Jan 22, 2010, 12:44 PM
LOL tickel, we were being funny.
I was trying to show how stupid it sounded, that this woman was trying to sell "pure bred Laboxers" and how terribly sad it was that most of them ended up in the Shelter.
I was trying to say that people will call their mutts anything to make $$$$

Sorry, there Aurora... you know the absolutel nutcases we get around here talking about new breeds, etc. Would be great to see a pic of one though !

Tick

Aurora_Bell
Jan 22, 2010, 12:47 PM
I will definitely post the cute little buggers as soon as I get home tonight.

tickle
Jan 22, 2010, 12:51 PM
I will definitly post the cute little buggers as soon as I get home tonight.

Looking forward to that !

Tick

tickle
Jan 22, 2010, 12:53 PM
I am looking for another dog. Walking + dog + my son + and me is something we used to do every day, but my Walker hound is ailing, has a torn ligament in her hind leg and is l2 years old. She is out of the picture entirely and can't even manage short walks now. She is okay around the house and still gets out to do her business, eats and is well loved.

To bad you are in the US.

Tick

Aurora_Bell
Jan 22, 2010, 01:03 PM
AHh nope I am in CANADA!
I am in NS actually.
That is too bad about your WH, it's so hard to see them get that way. My oldest Staffy is 10 now, and has already had 2 surgeries on his knee, (torn ligamints) and because has become quite obese. :(
But he still enjoys swimming in the summer and the short walks that he can manage. He is a major couch potato now.
Do you have any pics of your hound?

Alty
Jan 22, 2010, 01:34 PM
I hope you are kidding, Alty, a pics would do no good, I mean, they may be a lovely looking animal, but that is that as it could go.

LOL, Yes Tick, I was kidding.

There's no such thing as a purebred mixed breed. That's why I found it funny.

tickle
Jan 22, 2010, 02:27 PM
AHh nope I am in CANADA!
I am in NS actually.
That is too bad about your WH, it's so hard to see them get that way. My oldest Staffy is 10 now, and has already had 2 surgeries on his knee, (torn ligamints) and becasue has become quite obese. :(
But he still enjoys swimming in the summer and the short walks that he can manage. He is a major couch potato now.
Do you have any pics of your hound?

Ah, great canajun, eh ! :eek: Yes have lots of pics of the lovely lady, will try and get some on here real soon ! She is a great old girl and sitting right beside me now.

Tick

Aurora_Bell
Jan 23, 2010, 06:45 AM
I will have to resize the pic of the "pure bred" Laboxers :P
I think there is only one left, and they are interviewing for her today.
I love seeing them go! I hate seeing them come back, it's almost certain that the second time around, there is no chance for them.
I wish I had money, I would have a farm if misfits. :P