jojo24792
Apr 11, 2009, 04:30 PM
find the value of y such that
4y+1=82y-1
the y+1 is a power and so is 2y-1
I don't know how to write it in that format
I know the answer I just don't understand how you arrive at it
its 5/4
galactus
Apr 11, 2009, 04:44 PM
Just use the ^ key. 4^(y+1)=8^(2y-1)
That's what that key is for.
I will use LaTex though.
4^{y+1}=8^{2y-1}
ln of both sides:
(y+1)ln(4)=(2y-1)ln(8)
(y+1)ln(2^{2})=(2y-1)ln(2^{3})
2(y+1)ln(2)=3(2y-1)ln(2)
2(y+1)=3(2y-1)
Solve for y.
Perito
Apr 11, 2009, 04:51 PM
Most people use a "^" to indicate a power, sort of like this:
4^(y+1) = 82^(y-1)
I'll do it differently:
4^{(y+1)}\,=\,82^{(y-1)}
If you take the logarithm of both sides, you'll get
log(4^{(y+1)})\,=\,log(82^{(y-1)})
Note this:
log(A^x) = x\,log(A)
So using that we have
(y+1)\,log(4)\,=\,(y-1)\,log(82)
you can now rearrange it and solve it. To simplify that, let A = log(4) and B = log(82):
A(y+1)\, = \, B (y-1)
Ay + A\, = \, By - B
(A-B)y\, =\, -(A+B)
y\, =\, -\frac{(A+B)}{A-B}
log(4) = 0.602
log(82) = 1.9138
A+B = 2.516
A-B = -1.3118
y\,=\,-\frac{(A+B)}{A-B}\,=\,1.918
I don't get 5/4 = 1.25. Check me and see if I did something wrong.
By the way, you don't have to use common logs. You can use ln or logarithms to any base.
I see that Galactus posted an answer while I was working on it and he (correctly) used 8^(2y-1) instead of 82^(y-1). That's why I got the "wrong" answer. He also used natural logs and he recognized that 2 is the cube root of 8.