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confuzzled hair
Apr 3, 2009, 04:39 AM
I really need some advise, I've got natural ash blonde hair and I stupidly dyed it intense dak brown.
I had it intensly bleeched 2 years ago for my 18th birthday and OMG I had bright blond hair on top and bright orange underneith and my hair came out in clumps, I went to another hair dresser and she tried to put a dark brown underneith only when she washed it the tips of the blonde went blue!! So I ended up brown once again.
now I've just seriously had enough and I've been to yet another hairdresser she's told me to get GOLDWELL COLOR REMOVER to strip the dark brown out I've bought 2 boxes just in case. I'm worried thatits just not going to work at all but the color corrector at sallys told me it would eventually. I don't want the underneith done just the top half ill let the underneith grow out on its own whereas I can't be doing with looking like a complete fool letting it all grow out naturally, I look grey when my roots come through (which is every 2 weeks) and I added up how much I spend on dye a year and its pushing £2000.
I really can't be botherd doing it any more.
has anyone every used this goldwell colo remover before and did it work?
thanks, answers would be really helpful x:confused:

Perito
Apr 3, 2009, 05:35 AM
This thpe of color remover is similar to Igora Phantom. These products do work, but sometimes you have to use two or even there applications to get all of the dye out. Once you think you're finished, you need to check to make sure that all of the artificial pigment is removed from the hair. To do this, apply some fairly weak developer (3%, "10-volume") to the hair. This will "redevelop" any remaining artificial color molecules and the hair will again turn dark. If this happens, you need another application.

These products are not bleaches and they're much, much gentler on the hair than bleach is. You won't get breakage from using these color removers. Of course, after you use it, your hair will be an unpleasant, brassy color (the remaining natural undertones), so you will have to dye it after using the color remover. Don't expect it to return to your natural color (some people do).

confuzzled hair
Apr 3, 2009, 07:48 AM
Thanks for your reply, some hairdresser has told me that I'm going to end up with bright orange hair, and that its easier to lighten with bleech, so I need 3% developer? How much 30ml? Should I dilute it? I'm going to apply the color remover tomoz so fingers crossed I do hope it works.

confuzzled hair
Apr 3, 2009, 07:55 AM
Another thing is it safe to use goldwell color remover twice in the same day? Only if it does lift I would like to lift it again and then give it a few days to settle down and then put a boz colour on it, I've already chose an ash blonde to put on it I don't want really bight blonde.
Thanks again:D

Perito
Apr 3, 2009, 08:10 AM
The reason that you would end up with bright orange hair is that removing the artificial pigment will leave the remaining natural undertones. This is the natural pigment that has been lightened by hydrogen peroxide and it may well be orange.

It is not easier to lighten artificial pigment with bleach. In fact, sometimes it can be impossible. Artificial pigment doesn't act like natural pigment when you try to bleach it, and often it will bleach no lighter than orange. If you use bleach first, you run the risk of ending up with orange and having to dye it back to brown. Remember that all of

If you use 3% developer (to test for complete removal of the artificial pigment -- don't use it at the same time as you put on the color remover), don't dilute it. It's possible that the color remover will have a "lotion" (or some other word) to use at the end of the process. ColorFix uses this lotion:

http://www.robertcraig.com/php/index.php?location=colorfix

Color remover doesn't "lift" like bleach. It "undevelops" the color -- causes the molecules to revert to the state they were in before being "developed" by the peroxide. Chemically, the color remover is called a "reducing agent". It's the opposite of an "oxidizing agent" (a bleach).

Also, hair doesn't heal over time. It doesn't "get better". It might dry it out to use it twice in the same day, but the backbone of the hair shaft won't be any different if you wait for a few days or if you do it the same day.

Remember that if you wish to use the ash blonde, the color of the remaining natural pigment will add to the color of the hair colorant you use. If the natural pigment is too orange or yellow, you will end up with bright orange hair. What has to be done, if the undertones are too prominent, is to bleach the hair to gold, yellow, or pale yellow (depending on the "level" of the ash blonde you're using), and then recolor with the ash blonde.

For more help (search the posts), I suggest going to:

Bottle Blondes Board (http://www.network54.com/Forum/503669/)

There's a lot of talk about "ColorFix" there. Goldwell color remover is very similar.

confuzzled hair
Apr 3, 2009, 03:05 PM
Thank you for being so open and honest, ill just try and see how it goes still a bit unsure but that's just life lol:rolleyes:
Thanks again and I will post a reply letting you no how it goes. To be honest I'm not even sure that its going to even undevelop the colour atall.
Thanks again :D