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tin190
Mar 29, 2009, 01:17 PM
I was sent a citation from an ex g/f about child support after 10yrs of not knowing about the child, not even sure if the child is mine, what do I need to do

stevetcg
Mar 29, 2009, 02:35 PM
A citation? You mean a summons? You need to go to court and establish or disprove paternity.

Fr_Chuck
Mar 29, 2009, 04:35 PM
Normally you would hire an attorney, respond, asking for a DNA test to prove it is your child. And if it is your child, you set up and start paying the child support. You can also ask for visitation of the child

tin190
Mar 30, 2009, 04:00 PM
Can a person get retroactive child support after 10yrs of not telling the other person he's the father ,and claims they tried contacting you

Just Dahlia
Mar 30, 2009, 04:35 PM
Yes, I've seen it happen

cdad
Mar 30, 2009, 04:45 PM
Was the child known to both parties at the time of birth ? What state is this in ?

Just Dahlia
Mar 30, 2009, 04:58 PM
Northern California. I believe that the father was in the Bay area and had no idea until the child was 16 and the Mother decided that she needed some money.
It actually appalled me, but I really didn't like the Mother and it was 16 years later.
Of course she could have been lying to me, it was over 5 years ago, but I believe it was true according to the daughter.

Just Dahlia
Mar 30, 2009, 05:00 PM
I've never claimed to be an expert, I'm just trying to give my life experiences and hoping that it helps in some way

christyM2009
Mar 30, 2009, 05:07 PM
What I would do is ask for a DNA test from them that why there is proof.

nikosmom
Mar 30, 2009, 05:27 PM
This may vary by state but in most states, child support is granted from the date filed not from the date of the birth.

tin190
Mar 30, 2009, 05:55 PM
Was the child known to both parties at the time of birth ? What state is this in ?

No I did not know she had a child until the other day when served me, and the state is Texas
She claims she has been trying to get a hold of me... not true

tin190
Mar 30, 2009, 05:59 PM
Can a person get retroactive child support after 10yrs of not telling the other person he's the father ,and claims they tried contacting you



No I did not know she had a child until the other day when served me, and the state is Texas
She claims she has been trying to get a hold of me... not true

Fr_Chuck
Mar 30, 2009, 06:14 PM
Best advice first require a DNA test though the court to be sure the child is yours, Second, hire the very best attorney locally you can, I have seen rulings all over the range on this from different judges.

On the other hand be sure to also be asking for visits, counseling for the child to get adjusted to you and more.

cdad
Mar 31, 2009, 03:30 PM
It looks like its real iffy as to paying retroactive or not. There are circumstances that they could go back to the birth of the child but the general consensus is that it won't go back more then 4 years.

Texas Family Code - Section 154.131. Retroactive Child Support - Texas Attorney Resources - Texas Laws (http://law.onecle.com/texas/family/154.131.00.html)

cadillac59
Mar 31, 2009, 09:29 PM
In California there is no such thing as "retroactive child support" pre-dating the date an action is filed with the court in which child support is requested. Example: mom files an action asking for child support when the child is 16 years old. She filed nothing before. One month after the case was filed the parties appear in court at the hearing. The court can order support only effective as of the date the court action was filed, one month ago. That's it. You CANNOT go back 16 years.

JudyKayTee
Apr 1, 2009, 05:28 AM
what I would do is ask for a DNA test from them that why there is proof.


This is the job of the Court, not the job of the Petitioner - DNA NOT ordered by the Court is (by and large) not accepted by the Court.

Otherwise, I don't understand your sentence -

tin190
Apr 1, 2009, 07:58 AM
A question for... cadillac59; is it the same for Texas

GV70
Apr 1, 2009, 10:36 AM
Under California law, the custodial parent can collect child support for a maximum of three years before the date of the child support application. In that situation, the judge will consider why there was a delay in filing for child support as well as the non-custodial parent's ability to pay.

tin190
Apr 1, 2009, 10:40 AM
Do have to take a paternity test,or can you refuse to

GV70
Apr 1, 2009, 10:45 AM
do have to take a paternity test,or can you refuse to
If you refuse to take a paternity test the Court will decide your case "by default". It is not a good idea to refuse it.

ScottGem
Apr 1, 2009, 10:53 AM
Hmm, looks like we have a conflict here as to CA law.

As for the OP's situation. Califdad posted a link with Texas rules.

Let me add though, that the phrase "date filed" has been used here. So lets say that the mother filed for support 10 years ago, maybe even granted a default support order because the father couldn't be located. And has been unable to locate the father until just recently. In that case, couldn't support be ruled retroactive to the date of filing?

As an aside to tin190. Please don't start a new thread with a follow-up question. Use the Answer This Question options to post a reply to the thread. We've merged your posts for you.

ScottGem
Apr 1, 2009, 10:57 AM
do have to take a paternity test,or can you refuse to

A court ordered paternity test is like a subpeona. If you refuse you can be jailed for contempt of court or the judge will simply rule you are the legal father. Its actually in your best interests to take the test.

GV70
Apr 1, 2009, 11:01 AM
That is the current situation-there is 1 year term
http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Portals/0/resources/docs/policy/css/2001/css01-09.pdf

GV70
Apr 1, 2009, 11:07 AM
In my view unless she has been receiving state aid (aka "welfare") child support cannot be retroactively applied./ r not more than a year/

GV70
Apr 1, 2009, 11:55 AM
It seems there is a conflict between 17402 and Section 4009
Maybe stevetcg and califdadof3 should be able to explain us.

cadillac59
Apr 1, 2009, 04:12 PM
It seems there is a conflict between 17402 and Section 4009
Maybe stevetcg and califdadof3 should be able to explain us.

No, there is no conflict between sections 17402 and 4009. The law was changed in 2004 so section 17402 is now consistent with section 4009.

There was once a three year rule on retroactivity that was later changed to one year (this ONLY applied to WELFARE REIMBURSEMENT, however, not all child support orders). But that one-year rule was changed, as I said, and now there is NO retroactivity in a child support order in California in welfare reimbursement or non-welfare cases to any date preceding the date an action in filed in which child support is sought.

This what I have been trying to get everyone understand on this board, to no avail.

I do this for a living. I have 20 years experience in California as an attorney and I am a Certified Family Law Specialist in this state, having been certified by the California State Bar Board of Legal Specialization over a year ago.

My apologies for beating my drum about this but gee guys! Now,as to the other 49 states in the country (not to mention the rest of the world), I may be wrong about much of the laws in those other places and please correct when I am. But locally I do try to keep up on what's going on. Sorry again for the rant! :-)

GV70
Apr 7, 2009, 08:30 PM
Agreed... Ca changed its law.
Opinion issued April 19, 2007
In The Court of Appeals For The
First District of Texas

NO. 01-06-00313-CV
VICTOR MILES, Appellant

V.

BRIDGET PEACOCK AND THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF TEXAS, Appellees
We agree that the case should be remanded. The Family Code requires a trial court to “calculate net resources” in determining a party's current and retroactive child support obligations. TEX. FAM. CODE ANN. §§ 154.062(a), 154.131(b). In addition, with respect to insurance coverage, the court must “consider the cost and quality of health insurance coverage available to the parties and shall give priority to health insurance coverage available through the employment of one of the parties.” Id. § 154.182(a)
Retroactive Child Support
A court “may order a parent to pay retroactive child support if the parent: (1) has not previously been ordered to pay support for the child; and (2) was not a party to a suit in which support was ordered.” Id. § 154.009(a) (Vernon 2002). In ordering retroactive support, “the court shall apply the child support guidelines provided by this chapter” and “shall consider the net resources of the obligor during the relevant time.” Id. §§ 154.009(b), 154.131(b) (Vernon 2002). In addition, the court shall consider whether (1) the child's mother made any previous attempts to notify the obligor of his paternity, (2) the obligor had knowledge of his paternity, (3) the retroactive support order will impose an undue financial hardship on the obligor or his family, and (4) the obligor provided actual support before the lawsuit was filed. Id. § 154.131(b).