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arcura
Mar 7, 2009, 09:41 PM
Wondnering what a Kretizein (or Cretezein) is?
Read Paul's letter to Titus his organizer and helper.
:)Peace and kindness,:)
Fred
JoeT777
Mar 7, 2009, 10:23 PM
Kretismos "lying," from kretizein "to lie like a Cretan;" another connects it with the stem of kerannynai "to mix, blend;" krasis "mixture." (Online Etymology Dictionary. Retrieved March 07, 2009, from Dictionary.com website: syncretism definition | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/syncretism))
What verse was it used?
arcura
Mar 7, 2009, 10:41 PM
JoeT,
I was not used in any verse in Titus.
But...
I thought that someone could figure it out because the people of Crete at the time were very much liars, tricksters, and corrupt.
I have know a few folks like that on some of these boards and elsewhere.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
JoeT777
Mar 7, 2009, 10:53 PM
JoeT,
I was not used in any verse in Titus.
But....
I thought that someone could figure it out because the people of Crete at the time were very much liars, tricksters, and corrupt.
I have know a few folks like that on some of these boards and elsewhere.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
That’s one on me, it never crossed my mind! You learn something new every day.
JoeT777
Mar 7, 2009, 11:25 PM
This is not funny at all Fred. Do you have some sort of special insight that we should be aware of?
I had stopped my reading to answer your question and wondered what verse it came from. I read your response, turned the page and lo' and behold. There it was, a quote of Matt 11: 21 seq.
Woe thee, Corozain, woe to thee, Bethsaida: for if in Tyre and Sidon had been wrought the miracles that have been wrought in you, they had long ago done penance in sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment, than for you. And thou Capharnaum, shalt thou be exalted up to heaven? Thou shalt go down even unto hell. For if in Sodom had been wrought the miracles that have been wrought in thee, perhaps it had remained unto this day. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for thee.
And the writer continues: 'Today, nearly two thousand years later, the once lovely land on the shores of the Sea of Galilee lies mostly waste and silent… few native believers. Of Capernaum only the ruins of the synagogue remain: for more than a millennium and a half no man knew where the city had been. Scholars dispute whether Bethsaida in Galilee ever existed. Of Chorazin, “nothing is known of it but its doom”.'
The book is The Founding of Christendom; topic was those who rejected Christ during His ministry.
Interesting and provoking coincidence or what?
JoeT
arcura
Mar 7, 2009, 11:35 PM
Joe,
I'll select the "or what" on that.
Of Course Crete still exist and flourishes.
Titus was sent there by Paul to straighten things out for Paul knew that Titus was a good organizer.
Apparently he did a good job.
Peace and kindness,
Fred.
JoeT777
Mar 7, 2009, 11:45 PM
Probably not the same word, Corozain was a small town in Galilee, where as Cretezin does relate to Crete. Spelling too different.
JoeT777
Mar 7, 2009, 11:47 PM
Duplicate
arcura
Mar 7, 2009, 11:56 PM
Joe,
I misspoke.
Paul did not send Titus there he left him there to apparently finish the mission.
Peace and kindness,
Fred