Obama's approval rating looks like it's already starting to slide.
What if those ratings drop sharply?
Do you think that some of those people responsible for his meteoric rise would rather have a martyr than a failed president? If so, they would attempt to blame it on the conservatives.
Now lest some of you think I secretly hope for his early and violent demise, let me assure you that is not so. I would rather see him voted out in 4 years and be done with him than to have him become a martyr that we would never hear the last of.

Just wondering what you think.

Hello gal:

Are you asking whether Obama supporters would rather see him DEAD than fail? That's a pretty bizarre question. What kind of email did you get?

And, if somebody does do him in, you DON'T think it would be a conservative?? Really.

Plus, you bring up his death out of the blue, and try then to convince us that you don't want him dead...

I think you need to go to church and ask for forgiveness.

excon

I think you need to go to church and ask for forgiveness.
I agree. The question is borderline creepy and seems to want to ste the idea in people's heads.

Now lest some of you think I secretly hope for his early and violent demise, let me assure you that is not so. I would rather see him voted out in 4 years and be done with him than to have him become a martyr that we would never hear the last of.



So what you're really saying is that the only reason you can come up with that you hope he doesn't get killed is because you would get sick of hearing about him? Not because a man is dead, but because his death would cause inconvenience to you by way of having to hear about him forever and a day.

Weird!!

Hey, Ex. Don't you recognize a hypothetical question when you see it? I thought you were supposed to be smart.
By the way, Christians do not deal in assaination. Communists DO.

Hey, Ex. Don't you recognize a hypothetical question when you see it? I thought you were supposed to be smart.
By the way, Christians do not deal in assaination. Communists DO.
Wow.

Speechless.

Galveston - Yes, I was wondering something along the same lines as your hypothetical question as well not too long ago.

I do think that if he was assassinated by a handgun then all handguns and guns of any kind would be banned totally in America. Now, if he were the unfortunate victim of say a bombing, I don't think they're going to ban bombs.

When a politician outlives their usefulness, they are just cast aside like so much litter as history has shown us.

It would not surprise me one bit if there was an assassination and he was declared "dead" when in fact he was not dead at all but had a double endure this assassination while the real O had his face surgically altered and he flees this country to go live elsewhere in extravagant luxury.

He would have fulfilled his "role" of bringing America to its knees finanancially and successfully sidestepped any attempt at having to reveal his true identity, where he was born, what his real name is, etc. Very convenient not having to prove anything and becoming a martyr at the same time. Genius.

Your hypothetical question is very interesting and probably more real than you can imagine.

^^

These people scare me. Thank god I'm not in the same country.

^^

These people scare me. Thank god I'm not in the same country.

You Canadians scare me. I stay out of Canada.

Hey, Ex. Don't you recognize a hypothetical question when you see it? I thought you were supposed to be smart.
By the way, Christians do not deal in assaination. Communists DO.

You are a christian?? I bet all the other christians are cringing. The other conservatives too!:eek:

Galveston - Yes, I was wondering something along the same lines as your hypothetical question as well not too long ago.

I do think that if he was assasinated by a handgun then all handguns and guns of any kind would be banned totally in America. Now, if he were the unfortunate victim of say a bombing, I don't think they're going to ban bombs.

When a politician outlives their usefulness, they are just cast aside like so much litter as history has shown us.

It would not surprise me one bit if there was an assassination and he was declared "dead" when in fact he was not dead at all but had a double endure this assassination while the real O had his face surgically altered and he flees this country to go live elsewhere in extravagant luxury.

He would have fulfilled his "role" of bringing America to its knees finanancially and successfully sidestepped any attempt at having to reveal his true identity, where he was born, what his real name is, etc. Very convenient not having to prove anything and becoming a martyr at the same time. Genius.

Your hypothetical question is very interesting and probably more real than you can imagine.

OMG:eek: Am I on Candid Camera? :eek:Please say yes... someone///anyone?

^^

These people scare me. Thank god I'm not in the same country.

My daughter and son-in-law live in Canada. I may have to join them. These people scare the bejesus out of me.:eek:

Galveston - Yes, I was wondering something along the same lines as your hypothetical question as well not too long ago.

I do think that if he was assasinated by a handgun then all handguns and guns of any kind would be banned totally in America. Now, if he were the unfortunate victim of say a bombing, I don't think they're going to ban bombs.

When a politician outlives their usefulness, they are just cast aside like so much litter as history has shown us.

It would not surprise me one bit if there was an assassination and he was declared "dead" when in fact he was not dead at all but had a double endure this assassination while the real O had his face surgically altered and he flees this country to go live elsewhere in extravagant luxury.

He would have fulfilled his "role" of bringing America to its knees finanancially and successfully sidestepped any attempt at having to reveal his true identity, where he was born, what his real name is, etc. Very convenient not having to prove anything and becoming a martyr at the same time. Genius.

Your hypothetical question is very interesting and probably more real than you can imagine.

Any credibility you had, if indeed you had any at all, has completely gone with that post!

Fake deaths, identity changes, martyrs... You watch too much TV.

Hahahaha. Too funny!!

I stay out of Canada.From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

Although I share everyone's abhorrence about the topic, I find the outrage selective .

Death of a President (2006) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/)

A movie no one's heard of or saw? You feel there wasn't enough outrage about that movie here? No one saw it or ever heard about it! Meanwhile we are commenting on a topic posted by one of the members here. Your logic is faulty.

A movie no one's heard of or saw? You feel there wasn't enough outrage about that movie here? No one saw it or ever heard about it! Meanwhile we are commenting on a topic posted by one of the members here. Your logic is faulty.

It would be a good thing were it a movie no one saw, but it's certainly NOT "a movie no one's heard of." It's release and the controversy surrounding it (http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=VKk&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=%22Death+of+a+President%22&sa=N&sugg=d&as_ldate=2006&as_hdate=2006&lnav=d1b&ldrange=1966,1999&hdrange=2007,2008) was in all the papers and probably every cable and network news show, where were you? Thankfully, two of our biggest cinema chains refused to show it (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2006/oct/10/1).

Thankfully, two of our biggest cinema chains refused to show itHello Steve:

I'm sure for the very reasons we're NOT discussing the post, but the poster.

excon

Here's the box office receipts: Death of a President (2006) - Box office / business (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/business)
The film went nowhere. I'm not surprised it made the news in Texas. :rolleyes:

I'm not surprised it made the news in Texas. :rolleyes:

Right, as if the NY Times, FNC, LA Times, USA Today, NPR and the Guardian have a special Texas edition. Those were the prominent hits on the search I linked. Better luck next time.

Hello Steve:

I'm sure for the very reasons we're NOT discussing the post, but the poster.

Agreed, but tom does have a point.

Agreed, but tom does have a point.Feel free to post as many indie films as you want that no one has or will ever see. In the meanwhile we are responding to what we see now - this topic.

Also consider that this subject was brought up before by Excon during the campaign and it was considered a valid topic for conversation

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/scared-273403.html

Add me to the list of people who have never heard of that movie until today.

Feel free to post as many indie films as you want that no one has or will ever see. In the meanwhile we are responding to what we see now - this topic.

NK, I'm always thankful that we have you as board monitor. What would we do if you weren't around to tell us all what's relevant, what isn't and what's worth discussing? We'd just be lost around here :rolleyes:

NK, I'm always thankful that we have you as board monitor.You're welcome. Now behave.

You're welcome. Now behave.

Never! ;)

Well, well, well!!
Looks like I hit a nerve!

So does everyone think that Kenneth Lay actually died in Aspen?

It's amazing how easily someone can fake their death, get a little plastic surgery to alter their mug, and retire to where ever they wish in this world with no one looking over their shoulder at them.

Big money talks and can buy virtually any one, anytime.

Well, well, well!!!
Looks like I hit a nerve!

Galveston - apparently you did and they don't like it. They can't think outside the box. It's amazing that only the people living outside USA are really upset. Australia and Canada. Two countries that have practically no rights left. And no, I don't want to be like them either.

And just who are they to say we are wrong?

Never! ;)

Me neither!! :D:D

Australia and Canada. Two countries that have practically no rights left.
Spoken from true ignorance.

Galveston - apparently you did and they don't like it. They can't think outside the box. It's amazing that only the people living outside USA are really upset. Australia and Canada. Two countries that have practically no rights left. And no, I don't want to be like them either.

And just who are they to say we are wrong?

Where do you get that? I'm upset with your craziness and I'm in the US? You are not thinking outside the box. Don't flatter yourself. You are just having evil thoughts.

I can't be too far off! I'm getting hate mail from some who haven't even posted here.
Come on out of the closet and let everyone know what you think.

Come on out of the closet ...I think you just did. :)

I think you just did. :)
Nice try, NK, but I'm not the one sending private messages. I did notice that you smiled when you said that though.

Hello gal:

Maybe this is evidence of the disconnect between sides...

I don't know what you think you're not far off from. What I know, is that the people you're disconnected from, think what you said is very, very bizarre.

When I mentioned it, I did so because I was afraid it could happen.

Your mention of it, has to do with a political ploy the left might try to pull on you, should this terrible event come to pass.

Your post is off the wall. It's macabre.

I don't, however, believe you had any malice before you posted it.

I do find it interesting that the only people who don't think your post is weird, are the wingers on YOUR side.

Tom said I mentioned it first, so I guess all posts regarding the death of Obama are now fair game. He's bonkers.

excon

I don't, however, believe you had any malice before you posted it.I think it does show malice, it follows a pattern of threads started from the same poster.

Do any of you REALLY think Communists or other similar persuasions WOULDN'T kill one of their own to further their agenda?
I felt the need to add the disclaimer because some would imply that I was calling for a political murder.
It looks like some did so in spite of that disclaimer.

I'm bonkers! Lol .

Kennedy was slain by a lone gunman and for 45 years I've heard everyone from the a cabal of the CIA and the military ;the mafia, Castro ,and LBJ blamed .

Your conspiracy theory was no more valid speculation then gals regardless of how genuinely you felt it .

I think it does show malice, it follows a pattern of threads started from the same poster.
Ah, so! You have no problem with a poster calling an opponent senile, but now you attack me as being malicious!
Suppose you here and now quote such malicious posts so we can all know what you are talking about.
But then, that would de-rail the tread effectively, wouldn't it?

You can get back to your assassination hope thread. Sorry to derail you from that.

Do any of you REALLY think Communists or other similar persuasions WOULDN'T kill one of their own to further their agenda?Hello again, Gal:

Bizarro land!

Nobody disagrees that the world is a dangerous place. And, that has to do with Obama, exactly how??

You think he's a communist. You think there are communists around him. You think they'll plot to kill him. I guess you think we got taken over by the Soviet Union.

Bizarro land.

excon

There is such a thing as "point blank body armor" where the body armor is so thin that it has to be almost literally molded to your torso to fit properly. It is extremely thin versus the bulky body armor you see over policemen's uniforms or SWAT team members.

It could very well happen that if someone wanted to stage a "fake" assassination all the person would have to do is wear some of this ultra thin body armor and have some strategically placed fake blood packs taped to the armor.

I guess no one has ever seen the movie "Dave"? The real president had a heart attack or stroke or whatever and was rushed off the Senate floor and transported to a hospital. Then Dave came in and impersonated the president. That's almost a "reverse" assassination in a way.

I did see that movie "The Death of a President". Quite boring. It was a cross between the Kennedy assassination (the use of a high powered rifle) and the attempted assassination of Reagan getting into his limo. What I thought was interesting was the fact it took place in Chicago of all places.

There are all sorts of "movie magic" out there available. Do you really think that Saddam Hussein was hanged? It's amazing that an old dissheveled man with horribly crooked yellowed teeth was supposedly hanged instead of the real Saddam who had perfectly straight white teeth? Even the fake Saddam didn't actually get hung.

And another thing. Almost all the current world leaders have doubles. Saddam had several doubles. Hitler had several doubles. I could name other world leaders who have doubles, but I don't need to. Why would you think they don't have doubles?

Do any of you REALLY think Communists or other similar persuasions WOULDN'T kill one of their own to further their agenda?
I felt the need to add the disclaimer because some would imply that I was calling for a political murder.
It looks like some did so in spite of that disclaimer.

I just think you and twinkle have been watching too many movies.:rolleyes:

I just think you and twinkle have been watching too many movies.:rolleyes:

And I guess you fell for the Moon Walk years ago that was supposedly televised from the moon? Men have gone to the moon and back, but not way back then they didn't. That was a pure Hollywood production.

And I guess you fell for the Moon Walk years ago that was supposedly televised from the moon? Men have gone to the moon and back, but not way back then they didn't. That was a pure Hollywood production.

Do you believe in anything? Your cynicism must make you very unhappy.

This is gold doodle. I love it! Tell us more! You've experienced and learned so much in your long and fruitful life!!

^^

These people scare me. Thank god I'm not in the same country.

Are you now one of those radical Christians?:D






G&P

Twinkie is moving into the troll zone.

So I gather some of you DON'T think the radical left would kill one of their own if they thought it would further their agenda?

I never said it would happen, but some of your responses are revealing!

Newspaper's cartoon links Obama to dead chimp | smh.com.au (http://www.smh.com.au/world/newspapers-cartoon-links-obama-to-dead-chimp-20090219-8bmc.html)

Perhaps this radical way of thinking is more widespread than first thought. The Washington Post cartoonist has similar thoughts in his head.

Of course the cartoon monkey could also be San Fran Nan Madame MIMI Pelosi . I do believe it was her or her stooges who ultimately authored the pig with lipstick/ bucket list legislation

Newspaper's cartoon links Obama to dead chimp | smh.com.au (http://www.smh.com.au/world/newspapers-cartoon-links-obama-to-dead-chimp-20090219-8bmc.html)

Perhaps this radical way of thinking is more widespread than first thought. The Washington Post cartoonist has similar thoughts in his head.

This gives Al Sharpton something to talk about, but since Obama didn't write the bill - he turned that over to congress - who's the monkey? Maybe the guy's a racist, maybe not. The cartoon was in poor taste and not funny, but enough of this outrage over every perceived slight. I find it more obviously offensive that our new AG calls us "cowards." (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/new-ag-holder-when-it-comes-to-race-america-is-a-nation-of-cowards/)

I agree that that cartoon was in very poor taste,

But so have cartoons on Bush been.

The first amendment does not belong to either side of the political spectrum but for all.

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As a first generation non-black ethnic minority, I can attest to racial prejudices and frank racism, but I am tired of this need to always talk or have frank conversations about it.

Talk is useless without action.
The only proven action, in my personal experience, to combat racism and prejudice is not to respond tit for tat or always whine about being the victim all the time, but to
Go on, put aside the slight, and continue setting the best example you can. That may be through your work, humor, kindness, patience. The only thing one can control is how you respond, not what the other persn thinks, views or does.

Speaking of American history why don't we have a female history month, an American Indian history month?

Yes it is good to acknowledge errors, crimes, wrong ways in the past; but to constantly dwell in the past?






G&P

This gives Al Sharpton something to talk about, but since Obama didn't write the bill - he turned that over to congress - who's the monkey? Maybe the guy's a racist, maybe not. The cartoon was in poor taste and not funny, but enough of this outrage over every perceived slight. I find it more obviously offensive that our new AG calls us "cowards." (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/new-ag-holder-when-it-comes-to-race-america-is-a-nation-of-cowards/)

No outrage from me Steve. Just posting a cartoon relevant to the topic. I have a sense of humour, after all I am aussie. As you say it wasn't funny and was in poor taste but I'm certainly not outraged. Of course Al would be though. You'd be disappointed if he wasn't wouldn't you?

No outrage from me Steve. Just posting a cartoon relevent to the topic. I have a sense of humour, after all i am aussie. As you say it wasnt funny and was in poor taste but im certainly not outraged. Of course Al would be though. You'd be disappointed if he wasnt wouldnt you??

Al wouldn't be Al any other way...