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shannonbug
Feb 4, 2009, 06:37 PM
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My neighbor that I have known since I was about 2 years old. I was having some problems a while ago on pills an I wasn't thinking straight. I started to text him about... hate to say it having sex with him. And I asked him if we could stop and he was fine with the sex but not about the kissing and touching and he's trying to say he loves me when I know it is not true. Now months later he still won't leave it alone I d not know what to do! He's always saying I love you he is always talking weird to me about how I've been distant and I do not know how I can get him off m back! I have a key to his house to watch his dogs because h goes away for football games a lot. And he will get an attitude with me or freak out over nothing and say he wants his key back well I would like to keep it. Hen there is things going on at home that is a huge escape for me and I am trying to keep the key to have somewhere to go when I need it but. If I tell him him I am really feeling then I will have to give it back please help me I do not know what to do anymore I don't want to hurt him!

kp2171
Feb 4, 2009, 06:46 PM
What? Your post is not completely clear...

Are you asking if it was rape because you had consensual sex while on pills, even if that's what you wouldn't normally have done? Sounds like you had sex more than once, right?

Did he give you the pills? Did he know you were on pills? What were you taking?

Not completely clear, but it sounds to me that you both have reasons to regret what you both chose to do and its unfortunately getting in the way of a friendship...

02lthomam
Feb 4, 2009, 06:51 PM
Well... I'm afraid its not considered rape,
Even though you were under influence of drugs (if thts what you mean by pills), it was you that came on to him... in some fashoin... so it wasn't him taking advantage of you

Sorry :S

liz28
Feb 4, 2009, 07:00 PM
If you don't want anything to do with him and he freaks you out, why are you holding on to his house keys? Your adding to this confusion and I think you should remove yourself from this situation.

You don't have anywhere else to go or hang out? If you even think that this guy possible rape you why continue to be around him and have sex with him? Now I'm confuse!

roxypox
Feb 4, 2009, 08:00 PM
I agree with the others on their point of views... but...

I also wonder... did I read you clearly?

So you were affected by pills, and then you said you wanted to have sex with him, and then you did... but it was consensual... but now you regret it is that is?

But you remember the incident and he didn't continue to have sex with you while you didn't want to?

Because if I read your post correctly, then Its not considered rape, even if you were under the influence of pills.

No matter what the situation is you should take Liz's advice and remove yourself from the situation! Give back the key... and don't be worried about his feelings, your responsibility is to take care of yourself. Also, was this event a way to escape your problems? And have you used sex as a way to escape your problems before?

liz28
Feb 4, 2009, 08:09 PM
You need to clear up a lot of things because I answered your other thread but now I am more confuse. What about the other guy your seeing? And if your dating the other guy why are you holding on to this neighbor?
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dating/mayjor-edvice-309146.html

Synnen
Feb 4, 2009, 08:30 PM
You are FIFTEEN YEARS OLD.

I am moving this from Adult Sexuality (which is for Adults --over 18) to Relationships.

You need to get counseling, little girl. You have waaaaaay more going on with you than you're telling all in one place here.

roxypox
Feb 4, 2009, 08:35 PM
Wow, you're 15.. how old is this guy?

And well yes, if you are popping pills because you have problems, that is a problem in and of itself... I do agree with Synnen... you should seek some help!

neverme
Feb 5, 2009, 09:52 AM
No. It's not rape.

Give the key back. That's not right.

Get yourself into counseling that will give you somewhere to go to escape.

Romefalls19
Feb 5, 2009, 10:03 AM
You need mental help, I know that sounds harsh but think about it. You are only 15 years old and have all these sexual endeavers with men. You need to get help and find yourself some stability

talaniman
Feb 5, 2009, 10:10 AM
Give his key back, and talk to a trusted adult!

liz28
Feb 5, 2009, 10:14 AM
Where are your parents throghout all of this? In your other post you state they don't like the current guy because of his race but do they know about the neighbor? He has to be an older guy that is if anything haven't sex with a minor. Something is wrong with him too. I hope your parents find out about him.

And on a lighter note he can find someone else to take care of his dog because you have no business being his house when he's there and when he isn't. He must let you do whatever you want while your there because if your taking pills you must be drinking too. I hope the law finds out and get him.

k3441
Feb 5, 2009, 10:15 AM
You need to give that mans key back and stay away from him.
What you went through is not rape if it was consentual.
I'm guessing he is older than you as he has his own house so stay away from him your playing with fire!
Good luck to you and get some counceling

Synnen
Feb 5, 2009, 10:22 AM
Actually, it dawns on me that it COULD be rape--statutory rape.

If this man is old enough to have his own home, and the OP is 15, I believe that's enough to be statutory rape in most states.

roxypox
Feb 5, 2009, 11:13 AM
Shannonbug: If he is an adult, and seeing as you are a minor, it might be statutory rape like synnen says.

At first I thought you might have been over 18, and then it wouldn't have been.

But if he's an adult and you, being affected by pills, have suggested sex... well an adult man should have said no to that in either case. Both because of your age and the condition you were in.

I don't know how old your neighbor is, and I do hope you tell us... not because I'm curious but its easier to advice in a case like this when you have more facts to see it from.

It does seem like you have a lot of problems, and a lot on your plate. And like Liz said, if you are taking pills you are prob drinking as well...

I've grown up with a substance abuser (my mom) and I know a lot of people who use controlled substances, and out of my experience they usually do this as a way (a very very bad way) of dealing with their emotional and mental problems.

I've seen people do a lot of stupid things while depressed, or sad, or feeling low about themselves... like they need an instant escape ffrom reality and/or themselves,

I do believe that you need to take Talanimans advice and go talk to a trusted adult. If you don't feel you can talk to your parents about this then you need to talk to someone else!

Do you have an aunt or uncle you can talk to? Cousins who are adults (responsible ones) or perhaps a guides councilor at your school? (I don't know you or your surroundings, but there must be an adult that you can go to who can help you!)

liz28
Feb 5, 2009, 11:30 AM
Your right Roxy but where is this girl parents? If this is her neighbor I am pretty should someone sees her going in and out of this neighbor place and if I was her mother this wouldn't be going on. This neighbor might be a predator and he shouldn't be getting away with this because he is taking advantage of her and using her for his own benefit.

Things aren't how they were when I was growing up. When I was growing up I thought my mother had some psychic abilities because she knew everything but now I know she knew what she did because she kept a close watch on me and I do the same thing with my daughter.

roxypox
Feb 5, 2009, 11:46 AM
Your right Roxy but where is this girl parents? If this is her neighbor I am pretty should someone sees her going in and out of this neighbor place and if I was her mother this wouldn't be going on. This neighbor might be a predator and he shouldn't be getting away with this because he is taking advantage of her and using her for his own benefit.

Things aren't how they were when I was growing up. When I was growing up I thought my mother had some psychic abilities because she knew everything but now I know she knew what she did because she kept a close watch on me and I do the same thing with my daughter.

Exactly! He could be a predator, in any case, I doubt that he is of sound mind! Having sex with and professing his love for someone who is 15... and in the Op it says that she has known him since she was 2... and that just makes me wonder how old is this guy? Has he been a neighbor since she was a kid...

My mom has made her share of mistakes, and she is far far from perfect, but she always made sure to know where we were and who we hung out with. And she's always had a 6th sense about people, and she has never hesitated to cut ties to people whom she feared might hurt us. (we've actually talked a lot about this subject, know that I'm an adult!)

talaniman
Feb 5, 2009, 11:51 AM
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chuff
Feb 5, 2009, 02:17 PM
Have you told anyone about being raped by your father yet? Your behavior is a result of that and the emotions that control you now. Good news is you can turn this around but the first step is getting help. What would you mom do if you told her?

roxypox
Feb 6, 2009, 10:54 PM
I read the other thread and I think it said something about her mom didn't believe it... not when it happened to the sister either,

This whole situation is making me really sad.

And you need to talk to a trusted adult... NOW shannon, I'm serious! This is just far from healthy! You're 15 years old and... you've been abused by your dad, taken advantage of by the neighbor, a grown man who professes his love for you. A grown man shouldn't be in love with a 15 year old girl, who is young enough to be his daughter! You have a life where you have been surrounded by men who exploit you and I'm thinking your sister has been in the same spot as you are right now.

you need to talk to a trusted adult about this someone who can help you!

i understand that this is scary! and that you are afraid that you'll be taken away from your life, but maybe what you need right now is to get away from your current life and get help!

Crista
Feb 7, 2009, 12:01 AM
Okay, the house key has to go because he know you need it for your escape - it's a type of control he has with you. Remove all control ties! Do not text, call or talk to him. Lets him him know your done with whatever started.
Picture this; your in a hurry to get somewhere. There's a dark eerie alley to walk through, ( the house key is the metaphor to my point meaning the alley. ) Do you walk down the alley even though you most likely will get hurt. Is that destination really that important?

shannonbug
Feb 9, 2009, 10:10 AM
You need to clear up alot of things because I answered your other thread but now I am more confuse. What about the other guy your seeing? And if your dating the other guy why are you holding on to this neighbor?
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dating/mayjor-edvice-309146.html

I am dateing someone now and I have been keeping myself away from there. The thing is is that we were having sex when I first started talking to him about it I was on pills I am not anymore but I do nor remember that night it happened. But now we did it a lot because of my issues saying no because I'm afraid to get hurt. Now that I realize how wrong it is I am staying away at least I am trying.

shannonbug
Feb 9, 2009, 10:25 AM
Have you told anyone about being raped by your father yet? Your behavior is a result of that and the emotions that control you now. Good news is you can turn this around but the first step is getting help. What would you mom do if you told her?

I have tried to tell me mother but she doesn't believe me on him beating me or him rapeing me she didn't believe my sister when her friend and her friends mother told her that they witnessed me father beating my sister either!

shannonbug
Feb 9, 2009, 10:26 AM
Okay, the house key has to go because he know you need it for your escape - it's a type of control he has with you. Remove all control ties! Do not text, call or talk to him. Let's him him know your done with whatever started.
Picture this; your in a hurry to get somewhere. There's a dark eerie alley to walk thru, ( the house key is the metaphor to my point meaning the alley. ) Do you walk down the alley even though you most likely will get hurt. Is that destination really that important?

... no its not

chuff
Feb 9, 2009, 11:00 AM
i have tried to tell me mother but she doesnt believe me on him beating me or him rapeing me she didnt believe my sister when her friend and her friends mother told her that they witnessed me father beating my sister either!

I'm going to go out on a limb and tell you that she believes you. Your mother is a very lonely woman, it is the one thing in life she fears more then anything. She fears it so much that she's willing to put up with abuse of her children so she doesn't have to face the loneliness of being by herself.

My guess is, if he beats you and your sister, he's beating her as well. Has she ever told him what you have said. The reason I ask is, because if I was dating a woman, and her children made up stories about me, as your mother is claiming, that is the moment I would end the relationship. To your mom, it doesn't even strike her as odd, that a guy would stick around with these kind of alegations, so therefore, in my opinion, she must really know but be afraid to admit it.

shannonbug
Feb 21, 2009, 09:11 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and tell you that she believes you. Your mother is a very lonely woman, it is the one thing in life she fears more then anything. She fears it so much that she's willing to put up with abuse of her children so she doesn't have to face the loneliness of being by herself.

My guess is, if he beats you and your sister, he's beating her as well. Has she ever told him what you have said. The reason I ask is, because if I was dating a woman, and her children made up stories about me, as your mother is claiming, that is the moment I would end the relationship. To your mom, it doesn't even strike her as odd, that a guy would stick around with these kind of allegations, so therefore, in my opinion, she must really know but be afraid to admit it.

I am not sure what to do about her she just won't believe anyone. I am not lying neither is my sister she doesn't live with me anymore. My mom is making up stories to get me to stop talking to people and ask them for advice and its people I have known my hole life! She wants me to deal with everything on my own.