Does anyone care that Michael Phelps was caught on camera smoking a bong? I know I don't. If anything it is more amazing to me that he won 8 gold medals because I am sure that picture of him was not the first time he smoked.

I think the President has him tabbed for Drug Tzar .

I think he shot himself in the foot . I'm sure his many corporate sponsors are going to have 2nd thoughts

I think the President has him tabbed for Drug Tzar .

I think he shot himself in the foot . I'm sure his many corporate sponsors are going to have 2nd thoughts

LOL Drug Czar that is funny. Yeah I think the Corporate sponsors are going to dry up. Although Rosetta Stone already has him as a sponsor they could use that picture as an ad and say something Like "Rosetta Stone, so easy even a stoner can remember it."

If his sponsorship deals could have amounted to 50 million dollars, I would say they are worth about 10 million now.

Here's a kid who spent his entire childhood chasing the ultimate sporting dream. Now once achieved he has a chance to be a kid again and try a few things; shame it's going to cost him so much money, but I honestly don't think he would change it for the world.

The apology was obviously crafted by his agent and his other financial managers who stand to lose money too and want to minimize the damage.

Good for him letting his hair down, if half the kids in this country had his dedication towards something I would hand them a bong myself ;)

Hello:

Yeah, that stuff is baaaaad for you.. Smoke enough, and you could win a gold medal.

If anyone needed a reason, amongst the jillion or so reasons out there, to legalize pot, this is it.

excon

Hello:

Yeah, that stuff is baaaaad for ya.. Smoke enough, and you could win a gold medal.

If anyone needed a reason, amongst the jillion or so reasons out there, to legalize pot, this is it.

excon

You know I was thinking the same thing. He should start to lobby to make it legal. And correction Ex Smoke enough and you could win 8 gold medals and set world records!!

I personally don't care, but he did shoot himself in the foot.

I think it's kind of sad. Because you know if someone had taken a picture of him falling-down-drunk no one would care.

Who cares. And apparently the sponsors don't have a problem at all either.

Phelps backed by sponsors after marijuana photo - Swimming - Sport - smh.com.au (http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/swimming/phelps-backed-by-sponsors-after-marijuana-photo/2009/02/03/1233423178523.html)

The Maryland State Police who arrested him for DUI (or related) charge a few years cared about his alcohol consumption.

Winning 8 golds in the olypics, a superhuman effort. A error in judgement, makes him human, like the rest of us.

Give him a break, it's not like he was killing dogs :rolleyes:




G&P

I think his DUI is of bigger concern. I'm sure the sponsors aren't happy, but he's a kid doing what all kids do. Unfortunately in the world we are living in, he should be more careful about who he hangs out with. What kind of "friend" leak the picture?

It was a matter of time before someone sold that picture to the highest bidder. I guess the lesson of that story is to watch out for who is snapping pictures and don't keep pictures like that around. Burn them because when your on top some people are looking for ways to bring you down out of jealousy.

Apparently I am in the minority here because I have a serious problem with this. Yeah it's a cliché but think about the example he is setting for those that looked up to him. While I do not have any kids of my own I do have a nephew that is like a son to me and if he ever started smoking pot because he saw that Phelps does it and he turned out OK I would be pissed! Is it likely to happen? No. But as parents are you wiling to take that chance? Put whatever justification you want on it but the reality is that it IS illegal and this guy is supposed to be a role model.

Apparently I am in the minority here because I have a serious problem with this. Yeah it's a cliche but think about the example he is setting for those that looked up to him. While I do not have any kids of my own I do have a nephew that is like a son to me and if he ever started smoking pot because he saw that Phelps does it and he turned out OK I would be pissed! Is it likely to happen? No. But as parents are you wiling to take that chance? Put whatever justification you want on it but the reality is that it IS illegal and this guy is supposed to be a role model.

Alcohol, Tobacco Worse Than Illegal Drugs?, British Study Finds Them More Dangerous Than Some Illegal Narcotics - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/24/health/main2604653.shtml)

Well the illegality of marijuana needs to change. My mother was an alcoholic, and even regular drinking is worse for you than weed. The social costs of alcohol are enormous, including the damage within families.

You wouldn't think twice if there was a picture of him at a bar celebrating with his friends and having a drink in his hand.

What message do you really want to give your nephew? Drinking is OK and not bad for you because it's ingrained in our culture, or do you want to tell him the TRUTH for the sake of his health; "If you ever are going to use a mind altering drug, remember Marijuana is alot healthier than Alcohol".

You could add that Michael Phelps learned a lesson from his DWI, and switched to Marijauna. Just another example of how his life is blessed ;)

P.S. If you are wondering if I am simply a marijuana smoker trying to advance a cause, the truth is the last time I smoked Marijauna was over 30 years ago; I have no desire to make it legal other than the fact I DO KNOW the effects of Alcohol on families, society, drivers, etc. and would like for people to have a healthier choice become legal; a drug that mellows people out, doesn't depress them, enrage them, or worse. // Oh, and I don't drink either.

You wouldn't think twice if there was a picture of him at a bar celebrating with his friends and having a drink in his hand.


Yes I most certainly would but that is not the case here. My point is that this guy has a responsibility to set an example. Now you might argue that he didn't ask for this responsibility and you may be correct but if he didn't want it then he should have just won his medals and kept low, not go about the media frenzy he did. The man has been labeled as an Olympic Hero think about what that entails.

Yes I most certainly would but that is not the case here. My point is that this guy has a responsibility to set an example. Now you might argue that he didn't ask for this responsibility and you may be correct but if he didn't want it then he should have just won his medals and kept low, not go about the media frenzy he did. The man has been labeled as an Olympic Hero think about what that entails.

As I said in an earlier post, personally I don't think he cares. I think his handlers care, but I think he wants to be the kid he missed being while he was pursuing his goals.

To him I don't think it was about the money or being a hero (that's what we made him), I think he simply wanted to compete at the highest level and win. He's done that, greatest swimmer ever. So what if from 50 million dollars to 20 million dollars he goes, it was never about the money, it never is at that level.

He's just a kid being a kid, it's too bad that we expect the people we brand as hero's to be perfect; that just to big a burden to put on anyone. Look what he gave to America and now we want more from him, we want him to be perfect, remain perfect. Geez... maybe we could give back to him for once and cut him some slack and you could explain to your nephew the reality of life that nobody is perfect; we are all flawed in some manner. Wouldn't that be a better lesson for him?

but I think he wants to be the kid he missed being while he was pursuing his goals.

That was a choice he made on his own. It was a sacrifice and he had to have known that going in to think otherwise would be ridiculous. Once you accomplish that you don't necessarily get to go back. Life doesn't work that way.



He's just a kid being a kid, it's too bad that we expect the people we brand as hero's to be perfect; that just to big a burden to put on anyone. Look what he gave to America and now we want more from him, we want him to be perfect, remain perfect. Geez...maybe we could give back to him for once and cut him some slack and you could explain to your nephew the reality of life that nobody is perfect; we are all flawed in some manner. Wouldn't that be a better lesson for him?
You are correct. No one is perfect. But at this level you simply cannot pick what standards you apply to someone in his position. Can you honestly say that if your child decided to smoke pot and justified it to you that way you are trying to do now, you would be 100% OK with it?

That was a choice he made on his own. It was a sacrifice and he had to have known that going in to think otherwise would be ridiculous. Once you accomplish that you don't necessarily get to go back. Life doesn't work that way.


You are correct. No one is perfect. But at this level you simply cannot pick and choose what standards you apply to someone in his position. Can you honestly say that if your child decided to smoke pot and justified it to you that way you are trying to do now, you would be 100% OK with it?

When Michael Phelps started this journey he was a small kid and step by step through his dedication he climbed the ladder of possibility that he might go to the Olympics. All the while he is a kid in a cocoon of countless hours swimming and keeping up with his studies. Do you think he devoted a lot of time pondering what he was giving up in terms of a childhood or what he might act like once he achieved his goal? No, he simply put in the time; over and over and over again with a single mindedness to get better.

This man/boy didn't have a lot of time to mature through the normal mistakes other kids make or the mistakes of his peers and most of his peers were as dedicated as him.

So I don't think it was a choice for him, life and success just happened as a result of a singlemindedness to be the best; and nothing would distract him from that goal.

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So if my son, like your nephew said to me; Michael Phelps smokes pot, Michael Phelps drinks. I would say, yes son he is now an adult and he can choose to do those things; but remember, Michael Phelps took care of his goals and responsibilities first like any mature person does. He didn't do those things while he was in pursuit of his goals.

So if you want to accept the responsibility to try alcohol or pot like Michael Phelps has, then make sure you achieve your goals and responsibilities first; because if you don't, these drugs can take you away from achieving those goals. Michael Phelps was smart, he waited until he succeeded with his swimming and schooling.
Are those things good for him, no son; ultimately they are not. However adults often make decisions they regret later, and I'm certain that Michael Phelps will someday regret that he smoked pot, or drank, or did anything that potentially harmed himself or others around him, but he's human and it may take a while for him to figure that out if ever.

Michael Phelps was smart, he waited until he succeeded with his swimming and schooling.
If you actually believe that this was something that he only recently started then are kidding yourself.

In looking back I realize that I didn't make my main point very clear and that is that the man broke the law. Pure and simple. You can make all the arguments you want about the health risks of pot as opposed to alcohol but that at this point in time marijuana is illegal. Now that being said would everyone be so willing to give him a mulligan if it were some other infraction?

If you actually believe that this was something that he only recently started then are kidding yourself.

In looking back I realize that I didn't make my main point very clear and that is that the man broke the law. Pure and simple. You can make all the arguments you want about the health risks of pot as opposed to alcohol but the fact of the matter is that at this point in time marijuana is illegal. Now that being said would everyone be so willing to give him a mulligan if it were some other infraction?


Here is the gravity of his offense in South Carolina where he smoked the marijauna:

Possession of one ounce or less is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and a fine of $100 - $200 for a first offense.

In fact, he probably didn't even possess the pot, he simply smoked something that was there, was a crime even committed?

If this were Massachusetts; there would simply be a fine with no possibility of jail time.



Yes, despite my person feelings on Marijauna and Alcohol; I would give him a mulligan if I simply took into acccount the gravity of the crime measured by the State Law that he potentially broke.

Mark I'm with you .

He's a celeb. Approaching celebretard status. This is a 'canary in the mine 'moment for him because I see a downward spiral is very possible.

I know it's his own life and he is free to destroy what he took so long,and sacrificed so much to achieve . But what a waste it would be.
http://jay-mariotti.fanhouse.com/2009/02/03/phelps-vow-to-kids-goes-up-in-smoke/

Well it looks like most of his sponsors don't give a S#*t that he was smoking a bong. But the police want to file criminal charges. Can they do that? How can they prove that he was smoking pot from a picture?
Michael Phelps facing criminal charge for 'bong shot' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/swimming/4445637/Michael-Phelps-facing-criminal-charge-for-bong-shot.html)

They can't unless they get some witness to testify . That witness was probably token also . The cops should drop it.

The way I read the article is that is would be more trouble than it is worth to drop him outright. They will wait until the contract expires. Good luck to him getting it renewed .

If speedo stuck with him when he was driving drunk at 19 years old they will still sign him.

Sports stars don't have a responsibility to be role models to kids. They have a responsibility to play sport and win on the sporting field. It's a parents job to be a role model and teach there kid that what phelps did was wrong.
The argument of sports people being role models is a ridiculous one in my honest opinion.

Sports stars dont have a responsibility to be role models to kids. They have a responsibility to play sport and win on the sporting field. Its a parents job to be a role model and teach there kid that what phelps did was wrong.
The argument of sports people being role models is a ridiculous one in my honest opinion.

I agree, but the media wants to create these hero's so they can make a buck of them. Like you said, they are simply the best at their sport, no more, no less. Is their dedication to be admired, surely; are they perfect human beings, no; just regular like the rest of us.

Sports stars dont have a responsibility to be role models to kids. Hello Skell:

Neither do community organizers. Look, it didn't hurt that Obama kid. And, he inhaled too.

excon

Phelps had the choice and said to anyone who would listen that he wanted to be that role model . He's off to a fine start

Yeah I agree Tom, he apologised and owned up for his "mistake".

Well USA swimming gave Phelps a 3 month suspension. That doesn't even seem like a punishment at all.

Phelps eager to put suspension behind him - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-phelpssuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns)

You can argue that the team needs him more than he needs them. I'm sure they felt pressure to suspend him. But like you said, 3 months is not much.

Kelloggs has also decided not to renew their contract with him. But I would think they wouldn't have renewed anyway. Olympic stars usually don't keep endorsement deals longer than a year after the games - unless they are products related to their sport.

And now it's being reported that Subway is dropping him AND they plan to sue him for the money that he has received.

I don't even remember seeing him in a subway ad.

He's also dropped by Kelloggs
A Michael Phelps Kellogg's box won't make you rich - Game on - USATODAY.com (http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2009/02/a-michael-phelp.html)

The funny thing is when 2012 rolls around no one will remember this until the announcers at that Olympics bring it up. He will win more gold medals and will get new sponsors.

The rest of the industrialized world smokes pot and doesn't view it as a big deal. Only in this the Evangelical Christian States of America is it considered taboo; oh... and also in our sister nation of religious morality, Iran... ;)

If American sponsors drop him, European sponsors will gladly pickup the slack.

...and also in our sister nation of religious morality, Iran... ;)Hello tex:

An apt and insightful comparison. Nother Greenie for you.

excon

The rest of the industrialized world smokes pot and doesn't view it as a big deal. Only in this the Evangelical Christian States of America is it considered taboo; oh...and also in our sister nation of religious morality, Iran... ;)

If American sponsors drop him, European sponsors will gladly pickup the slack.



GAD! This has to be the biggest unsupported nonsense comment I have read in a long time.
If one were to follow your illogical logic it should then be legal for prostitution, opium dens, gambling, and pollution control equipment free automobiles and trucks all across the country.

He made a dumb move.

He's mortal.

Like Billy the I-Didnt-Inhaler and Dubya the Snorter.

If one were to follow your illogical logic it should then be legal for prostitution, opium dens, gambling, and pollution control equipment free automobiles and trucks all across the country.Hello 450:

Close, but no cigar. Ever hear of victimless crimes?? All the above are victimless crimes and should be legal in a free society - except, of course, the pollution stuff. We're ALL victims of that.

I don't expect you to understand the concept of "victimless" crimes.

excon

OK, lets follow this a bit further. How about legalizing cocaine, and then taxing it to death. Then you will truly have a society that government can take and do with as they please. Once you have everybody high on coke it is pretty easy to completely take over a society. Just as the Russians about that and cheap vodka! Now you have a bunch of mind numbed robots for the likes of the liberals to do with as they please. Do you really want goologs and political prisons in this country?

Hello again, 450:

It's like I said. You don't understand the concept of victimless crimes.

Actually, if you legalized cocaine and taxed it to death, you'd have more than enough money to provide treatment on demand for cocaine addicts. Most people don't want to be addicted, and would, in my view, opt for treatment...

But, if some don't, so what? How does a cocaine addict hurt you? Of course, he doesn't. That's the idea behind a victimless crime. There's no victim - not even YOU.

Noooo, you won't be a victim of some crazy crak head EVEN if you own a convenience store down in the hood. Do you know why? I'll tell you. If we legalized cocaine, it would cost about a buck to get high all day, and that with it being taxed to death. So, we'd end THAT scourge too.

Plus, we'd save about $30 Billion every year because we don't have to imprison them. Plus we'd save another $ 75 Billion every year because we could end the international drug war.

The good new is, that we'd have plenty of room left in the slam to keep sex offenders forever. You should like that.

All in all, legalizing drugs would be VERY beneficial for us.

excon

Wait, what? Legalize cocaine and crack? Pot I can see...
I know and have been around coke and people who use it, I assume you have to. Can you imagine Ex, what our society would be like... there would be way more people opting to do it if it weren't so darn expensive, we would have even more "stupid" arguments and fights. It may not be over "how am i gonna get it"... but I assure you it changes a person... and that change ain't good. I am so not for it. I will not say I haven't been a victim. I won't say how, but I know for sure as you probably do that a guy or gal on crack or cocaine, well they just aren't healthy livin' folks. Stupid things happen when you are on coke.

On the OQ, I think since he is in the eyes of all, he should have watched his azz and not done what he did. Kids and adults looked up to him, it makes no sense for him to just let it be. He needs to take a break and get serious about what he wants. Pot or Gold?

I think society puts "role model" status on athletes unfairly. Michael Phelps is a kid who experimented with pot. Most kids do.

However when he accepted money to represent companies for advertising purposes, he also accepted the responsibility to maintain a certain public image. They have every right to pull sponsorship and even sue for breach of contract because business is business.

The thing that really bothers me about this issue is the news media. They are presenting the point of view that he is negatively influencing children. If that's true, then why do they keep showing the picture over and over and over again. If they cared about the children, wouldn't they refuse to show the picture?

there would be way more people opting to do it if it werent so darn expensive, Hello start:

Personally, I don't know anybody who wants to DO drugs, but they're just waiting on the sidelines for them to become legal. I don't think you do either. Everybody I know who wants to DO drugs, already DOES do drugs.

Yes, there are a few, I'm sure...

But, I suggest that there are MORE addicts who will STOP drugs if treatment was available than there will be NEW addicts just starting up. So, in my view, legalization along with treatment on demand, will result in a net REDUCTION in drug use.

excon