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teefmars
Jan 29, 2009, 06:20 PM
My german short hair tries to hump all the rest of our animals all the time, he has been neutered, what can we do?
21boat
Jan 29, 2009, 08:25 PM
T Your short hair is claiming its pack of toy animals and that coupled with nervous energy and then keeps reclaiming the pack to show to it and you that I'm the pack leader hear
The basic on most any dog behavior in a pack it weather the PACK accepts that behavior. If a dog is to out of balance with the pack the pack corrects it by a bite or buy a pack dog not allowing it.
When the dog goes to hump you need to be the pack leader and correct that with quick sshh and use your tip of the fingers to simulate a bite or a finger grab behind the ear and by the throat. Your dig behavior seems to me it's a act of nervous and energy of a bad habit.
Don't go 'Hay" and use words to correct the dos. pack dogs don't talk. Also when you use words the dog can react to the stress or excitement in your voice and thats not good.
I don't know if you are seen by your dog as a pack leader and that you need top be to correct this. The nervous energy could also be a direct result of the dog not getting enough walks and that also makes you a pack leader. be very patient with correcting and VERY constant. The touch and shh makes the dog brain react to the uh! and it snaps the brain out from whatever its doing at the moment. Dogs live in the Now and are easy to correct because of that. Iv posted below on the hand shh that should greatly help you be a pack leader so what or when ever you correct your dog you will be looked as the pack leader and thats the strength a pack leader has. Its not about being really horny its a nervous pent up energy and thats the way your dog release it. Its also a way to dominate something and claim it as your dog property and you are 2nd in the pack thats why YOU need to CLAIM the toy and your dog can play with it but not dominate it. Thats what a pack leader does You are not the head of the pack there EVERYTHING your dogs humps is him claiming is ownership of the pack and those things become his pack. Reclaim those things as you owning them When the dog goes to hump walk up calm and assertive and actual very assertively and calmer block the dog with your foot from the toy with your foot and then put it between your legs and YOU claim it "then is mine" block him. Don't bend down and grab. Bending down to a dog is a sign of submission to that dog. And grabbing it is another cue of a fight challenge to another dog. That's like another pack dog trying to steal food and starts a challenge. Claim it becomes the dog pack leader way. I could write pages here but site below will further it for me To help with this ALL dogs need exercise discipline and then affection So empower yourself and be the pack leader
YouTube - dog whisper (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dog%20whisper&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1)
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starbuck8
Jan 30, 2009, 12:07 AM
21 Boat, I know what you are trying to convey, but nowhere in the OP's question did it mention that the Male is trying to hump stuffed animals or toys. The OP said the Male is trying to hump the other "animals." Also, please try and use paragraphs and punctuation, so it makes it easier for others to read. I agree, Cesar Millans methods are fundamental, and quite easy to teach you dog if you follow the pack mentality.
Teefmars,
Yes the Male is trying to establish his role as packleader. He is exhibiting his dominence and control over the other pack members. This has nothing to do with the male being "horny." This is definitely pent up energy. In order to stop this behaviour, you need to step up and start being the pack leader of all of your animals.
The best way to stop this is exercise first, to release that pent up energy. Exercise, Disipline, then Affection. He needs exercise each and everyday. This means a run or fast paced walk, or it can also be a swim if you are lucky enough to have a pool or body of water nearby. You could also drain his energy faster by the use of roller blades or a bike. A treadmill is also a good way to drain energy if you cannot get out to walk him on some days.
There is no replacement for the walk however. This is where you establish your role as the packleader. Once you have mastered the walk, then the other things can be used for a quicker energy drain. Also, don't mistake playing in the yard as exercise. Your yard to your dog, is like a fish bowl is for fish.
Now, when it comes to mounting the other animals. You likely can often see when he is about to mount. It's best if you can catch him before he does the actual mounting, however this will work either way. Quickly, while remaining calm and assertive, give a sharp command, (you can use whatever feels comfortable to you... sshhtt, hey, no, anything that is short, but forceful in tone--not yelling) and grab his collar and pull him off. You can also use the "bite" which is your hand in a claw like firm touch at the back of the neck with your fingers, and around to the throat with your thumb. This is just a touch, to snap him out of it. It's like a mother dogs "nip," which is a correction to show that this is unacceptable behaviour. Stay repetitive, and do this every time, catching it as quickly as you can.
Once you have got the walk down pat, and your dog understands the basic command, everything after that should be simple to correct, because if it's done correctly and repetitively, you will have established your role as packleader.
This clip shows you the basics.
Cesar Millan - People Training For Dogs (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6361385827312960989)
21boat
Jan 30, 2009, 02:23 AM
grab his collar and pull him off
Hi starbuck 8 I assumed it was toy animals because it was the "rest" our animals, and there was no indication of other 'animals" was an actual dog or farm animals or maybe even a Freudian slip of stuffed animals. Ive seen dogs hump stuffed animals as well as us. I'm laughing GOOD POINT!! wweell either way live or not, my suggestion applies for the same action and "claiming" the other dog as your pack and not allowing this behavior. The body block still can be used here and Cesar does the same thing between two dogs in a house to claim the other dog as Caesars pack.
I completely disagree with the approach of grabbing his collar and pulling him off. This is exactly what most dog owners do to react to this situation. It's the humans reaction out of there instinct. When doing that the owner themselves is now in a more heightened state which the dog will feel in energy off you and resists even more because the human helped that dog go to the next level of excitement. It's the same energy we humans use when we clap our hands and use a heighten voice to excite our dog to play and run and it puts them at the next level of excitement. The pulling will become counterproductive.
Starbuck8
A leader of the pack , or a dog higher in the chain doesn't bite/grab and PULL the dog away to correct it and drag it back even a foot. It will bite at the side of the head or neck "forward movement" if that dog resist it will be put the other dog down on its side in a submissive position and even held there until the dog submits to that action of dominate dog. When did you ever see a dog fight, and see ANY dog pulling another BACK in motion. Its front aggression or dominance. They will bite abd oull back food or a toy to claim it but that's about. The pack doesn't grab and pull back to correct another dog. Only if fight when one dog is locked in Battle and trying to take something from other dog.
Of course in a dire situation owners and Cesar will grab a dog and pull one dog off another because of a bloody battle is happening or a second away from it.
Pulling the collar is as same as the leash on a dog when the homeowner is holding and pulling and doing that so so famous tug of war. How often does that NOT work.
You will see that same thing in the videos and that's why so many call Cesar and not knowing why its not working. Very seldom will you see Cesar grab a collar and pull it back to him.
If you watch the video Cesar will hold the leash and not PULL it back like pulling on a collar he will basically hold the leash still and use it to jerk the dog leash SIDED WAYS to correct. I can guess you have tried it and it didn't work. Probably why you posted. The main objective in any training is to snap/brake your dogs fixation/concentration on an object/dog The claw/finger/tap snaps the dogs brain out of that. The live in the here and now minute to minute and seconds. This is why when you are gone for 2 hrs or 10 hours the dog reacts the same to see you.
A good way to set this up would be the leash on your dog and when your dog does try to hump jerk/snap the leash SIDEWAYS while a short sshh.
Starbucks8
Also, please try and use paragraphs and punctuation, so it makes it easier for others to read
Sorry, I didn't know I was back in English class not to mention the tiny widow we type in to give our answers. Even the advance is hard to see with glass on a P.C. Could also be me at 6'3" 265 lb with very large fingers. A real window to actually SEE where a paragraph would be would help, and not sit there wondering if it was a wrap around gap on the screen or another paragraph. Didn't know I was getting graded. You think I'm bad. 6 weeks ago I saw a LAW that was written in one long sentencee for 3 pages both sides and written by our U.S attorneys .
Appreciate the heads up on "animals" weather their live or not. Some dogs don't know the difference either and that always mad me laugh.
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starbuck8
Jan 30, 2009, 03:44 AM
Hi 21 Boat,
No, I was not trying to give you a school lesson. LOL! I was just trying to point it out, because it was difficult to read. I usually write everything out, and then scroll back and read through to try and put it into paragraphs, check my punctuation, and do a spell check. Yes, the boxes used to be much larger, and it made it easier to do, but it can still be done. There is also an edit option where you can go back after the fact. I think your response was your defence to my asking that you try and make it readable for others. If this was taken the wrong way, I appologize.
When I talked about grabbing his collar, I meant it in the same way Cesar gives a quick jerk to the side of the collar on the leash. I may have written it incorrectly, and said to "pull." forgetting that I'm explaining to someone that doesn't know the technique, since I am quite familiar, thank you. Cesar does this often. Also just to snap him out of it.
I in no way meant "DRAG!" Did you see where I say to drag? I never once said in a "BACKWARD" motion either! To assume in your condescending manner that I have tried Cesars methods, and they haven't worked is laughable. I have always had very well behaved dogs, and I do know how to apply Cesars methods.
I have watched the Dog Whisperer almost everyday since it aired, and have watched the DVD series many times. I have studied his books, and put his methods to work. I know how to be the packleader, I know how and when to give corrections, and I know how to walk a pack, etc. So, believe me, you don't have to give me a "schooling" on Cesar Millan. I think that was quite presumptuous of you to assume.
Although there are the basics, you will see that Cesar also treats every case individually, and will use several different techniques, depending on the dog and the problem.
You had mentioned blocking, so I didn't feel the need to. I was not putting down your advice at all. Just saying that at times I got lost when reading it. Someone that doesn't know Cesars methods, can get very confused. It "is" very hard to explain in writing. Yet, there was no need to direct your words of "expertise" to me.
Trust me, this isn't my first "dog show1"
21boat
Jan 30, 2009, 07:22 AM
starbuck8 I never said that you said the word drag. My word 'drag" was to represent a movement of distance as the word "foot" to give measurement of the distance drag to or moved from a starting point. To actually 'drag" a dog would mean its on the ground. Normally the word 'Pull" means toward oneself as opposed to push. You very well may have meant jerk the collar to the side but none of us here would know that from your word choices " grab the collar and pull him off"
As well versed that you obviously are in Cesar methods you as should know how crucial the advice here was and if the word jerk was left out we are back to the reason why I reposted of not grabbing the collar and Pull the dog off. The "grab by the collar" is mostly what everybody does without a jerk or snap of the collar sideways. This difference is one of Cesar biggest points of how to correct behavior and not just pull the dog by the collar or the leash attached to that collar. Same thing. That little big thing is a make or break thing hear. The added part to that we both missed was after the grab/jerk was done to let go of the collar and see if the dog doesn't go right back to humping and know when to grab/jerk and hold with tension on collar being adjusted to dog standing still or not. That added part may be very crucial here also for complete directions of how to:
Other wise the answer was Great!
I don't claim to be an expert. I grew up with dogs and tons of other dogs on the farms around me. When I was young I spent a lot of time hunting in the mountains. I've experienced wild dogs that HUNT to eat and they've completely reverted back to the wolf pack. I'm glad I have a gun at that point just in case I'm the menu. When I go live In Puerto Rico over the winter months I see 100s of wild packs roaming the streets and towns. If you want to learn about dog behavior theirs the living lab to study dogs.
A lot of what Ive learned was in the Field over my life and I guess that observation is how the books are written. And they like you or me can miss some details. My wife works for a vet and she covers the other end of the dog spectrum and is more of the horse expert when it came to the horses we used to have. Where we live southern Pa is one of the biggest areas for horses in the country. We even have horseman come from England to do fox hunts here.
My first expertise is snakes and use to give lectures at schools and collages and at that time I was a 11th grader in school. Weird huh.
In all fairness to you My gal constantly will say to me "how can you be so intelligent and have the biggest vocabulary of anyone I've meet and can't spell, and your grammar stinks" I respond it tuff to be borderline Mensa and its not easy I laugh because her dad was the head attorney for Washington D.C. For the FCC.
So sorry for my country bumpkin grammar to all lap top fat fingers :)
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JudyKayTee
Jan 30, 2009, 08:16 AM
When I go live In Puerto Rico over the winter months I see 100s of wild packs roaming the streets and towns. If you want to learn about dog behavior theirs the living lab to study dogs. ... In all fairness to you My gal constantly will say to me "how can you be so intelligent and have the biggest vocabulary of anyone I've meet and can't spell, and your grammar stinks" I respond it tuff to be borderline Mensa and its not easy I laugh because her dad was the head attorney for Washington D.C. For the FCC.
Are you active in the animal rights group in Puerto Rico that is saving all the abandoned dogs? I realize that the man who founded the Association has come back to the US but the woman who is now in charge is a peripheral acquaintance of mine. I understandit's a terrible, heartbreaking situation and they do great work.
What is considered to be borderline Mensa? What IQ/test result? My husband was a member and I've never heard the "borderline" classification before.