Is everyone busy watching Obama?

Will he transform the world?

Over 2 million people witnessed Obama taking his oath. What do you think is going to change with the 44th President of USA coming into power?
Are you feeling optimistic?

Share your views , please

The biggest change from him becoming president was to show the rest of the world that 96% of the registered black voters voted for him and that PROVES that it was because of his skin color. If that isn't American History of blacks being Racist The somebody here better get some math skills. The white vote was very close and split between the candidates. Imagine if the white voted 96% for Mc Cain there would be gunfire and riots on our streets. Sorry the black population is good at that. I'm not busting on all blacks but holy COW 96%!! Why do you think the GUN sales has reached RECORD sales. Don't believe because of just the rumor that Obama is going to try and mess with the gun laws.
The other simple reason he got in is because the white population having babies was on the decline for 20 years compared to the rest of the cultures which are good at making tons of babies to be future voters for another race vote. Which don't get me started on that percentile of comparison to percent in population of race and who by the sliding scale is proportionately WAY out of wack I do the Research as you can see below
What will it change. There is the new Pres in front of the white house and a black man states the blacks built the white house. Then 2 nights with the President and Clinton and a black man giving a speech about race saying yellow let it mellow and white isn't right and doing rhymes. From where I'm sitting if white isn't right and is such a bad race then can we have our world inventions back please!! Since we are such a slave owning culture.
I'm sure By now there are a lot of people mad at me well lets get some MORE history correct. I'm not just one of those white racist I do the research and this was NOT taught in our public schools and you see how ruff our city schools are because of our now RD world martially cultural people living their and bars on our city homes like the OTHER countries that out culture people are so proud of for what reason is beyond me. I don't have an iodinate criss. Nor do I associate My American citizenship with Britain or the Irish which is a big part of my roots
Below is a more accurate history that wasn't told and because of that the race tensions should have been different But the whites bought into the half history and that hurt all people of this country and the blacks also should know the more complete version

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(American_Colonial)

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/white_slavery.htm

http://www.africanculturalcenter.org/4_5slavery.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=tPIphu2kr9wC&pg=PA197&lpg=PA197&dq=Joseph+dereef+slavemaster&source=web&ots=WzE4wxnPfA&sig=SlESe7

LmNypDoyjRpruhCGBuiWQ&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA197,M1

http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/blacks-civil-war/

So In answer to your question Obama best not screw up or there going to be ### to pay and eventually the blacks will run out of excuses.
I'm not busting on the racist here and there are so ### good ones without a doubt. Even my culture friends are ashamed of there race for many reasons when most every time you pick up the paper and look at the jails it not a social ecumenical problem like that words used for an excuse. Explain Colin Powell If whites were so bad. Explain ABMs eduction and intelligent!! I would LOVE to see us all get along and prove to ourselves that EQUAL is not a gradient that way. How could a rich person be rich unless there is a poor person.
Obama has a very tough road ahead and as far as I'm concerned he is MR PRESIDENT Obhama. Not mister PRESIDENT AFRICAN AMERICAN OBHAMA don't insult the highest office in this land. Hes supposed to be just and AMERICAN and that's that! Soon as I hear the Africa word it divides the races and this country!! And The Blacks needs to get over it so the whites can accept them more as equals enough is enough stop using something that NONE of us current Americans were part of or had a say in.
Again I'm not here to insult anybody but I think it was to earlier for a black president and they way he was voted into office by a race vote. Personally I didn't like Mc vain or Obhama. I wanter Pallen to take a stab at it. Every four years Im disspointed for the picks aaaahhhh.

Before he completes a month he will ram down our throats ,by either Executive Order or Congressional legislation ,a Democrat 40 year "bucket list " that makes pure socialism look responsible by comparison.

Not to sound mean or anything but I personally think he's the antichrist or something...

Will he transform the world?Hello Roland:

He's off to a good start.

excon

excon, I think you need to change your signature to,
"I DID drink the koolaid" :rolleyes:

Hello again, Mr. 450:

Let's get re-acquainted... I'm a curmudgeon. I'm a cynic. I hate politicians. I think EVERYBODY lies.

In spite of the above, however, I'm an optimist.

If Obama fails, then he does. And, I'll be the first to call your attention to it... He hasn't even had a chance yet to fail. You just don't like his policies. I got it. However, the bulk of the American public DO like his policies and elected him to DO exactly what he IS doing.

What he's doing, ISN'T failing. It's actually CORRECTING the failure of what came before. You don't have any doubt, do you, that the world NEEDS some transformation?

So, if you want to call believing in my country as having drunk the koolaid, have at it.

excon

PS> I looked for your profile. Couldn't find it.

Hello again, Mr. 450:

Let's get re-acquainted... I'm a curmudgeon. I'm a cynic. I hate politicians. I think EVERYBODY lies.

In spite of the above, however, I'm an optimist.

If Obama fails, then he does. And, I'll be the first to call your attention to it.... He hasn't even had a chance yet to fail. You just don't like his policies. I got it. However, the bulk of the American public DO like his policies and elected him to DO exactly what he IS doing.Sorry, wrong again. The bulk of the American public bought an immage that the news media sold to them

What he's doing, ISN'T failing. Lets see, it offered change, but instead is placing people in his cabinet that cannot pay their income taxes, have conflicts of interest in their finances, and are generally the good old boys school. What is different? It's actually CORRECTING the failure of what came before.By turning terrorists loose is that the kind of change you really want? You don't have any doubt, do you, that the world NEEDS some transformation?OF course this country has made hugh mistakes. Most of them are still in Washington sad to say. Congress all need to be replaced with people who have a heart for this country instead of their own pocket books

So, if you want to call believing in my country as having drunk the koolaid, have at it.

excon

PS> I looked for your profile. Couldn't find it.

See, I am just more cynical that you. I do not live in that NE elitest region of the country. I am not among those that believe us country bumpkins are too stupid to understand how bad the situation is.
Let me ask you this really fast.
Congress is the ones who created this entire finance mess in the first place right? So who in their right mind believes that giving this bunch of thieves another trillion dollars will solve anything?

See, I am just more cynical that you. Hello again, 450:

In terms of money, I don't think you are... Buy gold. However, this depression was dropped in his lap.

In terms of the REST of what he's doing, such as closing Gitmo and ending the war in Iraq, he's doing pretty good.

But, in terms of the RULE of LAW, YOU should be THRILLED with Obama, because he's just another Bush apologist. Obama sings with you Righty's in unison - "We shouldn't get caught up in the past. We shouldn't be driven by vengeance and retribution. We shouldn't punish people whose motives in committing crimes weren't really that bad."

He's not going to go after the lawbreakers in the Bush administration. That's BIG. What do you think would happen to YOU if YOU committed a felony? Forgiveness?? I don't think so.

Plus, as a righty law and order Dude, you should want Bush to be held legally accountable, because you're surly going to want to hold Obama legally accountable. No?

excon

Hello again, 450:
In terms of money, I don't think you are... Buy gold. However, this depression was dropped in his lap. By Who?? Is it not true that his own party has been in power for the last 2 years?
Is it not also true that people like Barnie Frank Chair of the banking committee) who are suppose to be responsible for oversight of the banking rules. Is it not thanks to the lax oversight by congress of places like Fannie and Freddy that have caused this entire mess in the first place? Who do you expect is going to pay for this trillion dollars that your Mr. Wonderful wants to now spend on pork? Our children sad to say. This mess cannot be placed directly on one persons lap. Did President Bush make mistakes? Yes he did! But at the end of the day we have not had an attack on our shores since 9/11 thanks to his policies and leadership. If it were up to the dems we would still have our collective heads in the sand while the enemy was torching our asses.

In terms of the REST of what he's doing, such as closing Gitmo and ending the war in Iraq, he's doing pretty good.Do you really believe that turning those people loose will not get American soldiers killed in the future? That thinking has already been proven wrong. One of those createns was released in 2007 and is already back fighting against us

But, in terms of the RULE of LAW, YOU should be THRILLED with Obama, because he's just another Bush apologist. Obama sings with you Righty's in unison - "We shouldn't get caught up in the past. We shouldn't be driven by vengeance and retribution. We shouldn't punish people whose motives in committing crimes weren't really that bad."

He's not going to go after the lawbreakers in the Bush administration. That's BIG. What do you think would happen to YOU if YOU committed a felony? Forgiveness??? I don't think so.Remember the old adage, you need to take the log out of your own eye before you can take the toothpick out of your neighbors eye. How can he claim to be anything when his finance minister cannot even figure out if he needs to pay income taxes or not?

Plus, as a righty law and order Dude, you should want Bush to be held legally accountable, because you're surly gonna want to hold Obama legally accountable. No?No clue what you believ that president Bush needs to be held accountable for? Please elaborate.

excon
Donn

No clue what you believ that president Bush needs to be held accountable for? Please elaborate.Hello again, 450:

For starters, Waterboarding is torture. Our Attorney General said so. Torture is illegal. Both Bush and Cheney admitted very recently to having authorized waterboarding...

On its face, that MAKES a prima fascie case.

Then there's the illegal waranteless wiretapping, that happened LONG before congress authorized it. There is no denying that that occurred too.

These are felony's that we are OBLIGATED by our treaty's and our Constitution to investigate. That is just so. Now, we can ignore it, as we're doing, or we can follow the law.

excon

OK, why did Bush declare war and not Congress?

Why do we help everyone else and not ourselves?

Why don't they teach ethics in schools?

Why do people in power tend not to have ethics? e.g. Merrill lynch paying bonuses to top executives before they were bought out?

Remember "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".

Is there now such a thing as the middle class?

OK, why did Bush declare war and not Congress?

Why do we help everyone else and not ourselves?Always has been the American way regardless if they want our help or not.

Why don't they teach ethics in schools?Because first there would have to be people who were ethical to teach ethics.

Why do people in power tend not to have ethics? e.g. Merrill lynch paying bonuses to top executives before they were bought out?power.

Remember "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".

Is there now such a thing as the middle class?Nope, not any more, there are the rich and the rest of us. Of course the definition of the rich keeps changing. First it was 250 thousand a year, then 225, then 200. Not sure what it is today.

Why don't they teach ethics in schools? Because first there would have to be people who were ethical to teach ethics.Hello again, 450:

I noticed you skipped my post about torture. I think you're a supporter of torture. Is torture ethical?

It's really a yes or no question. Can you answer it honestly? Or are you going to act like Bush, and mouth the words "we don't torture", all the while torturing...

If you're for it, can you say so? At least Jack Bauer admits it.

excon

Hello again, 450:

In terms of money, I don't think you are... Buy gold. However, this depression was dropped in his lap.

In terms of the REST of what he's doing, such as closing Gitmo and ending the war in Iraq, he's doing pretty good.

But, in terms of the RULE of LAW, YOU should be THRILLED with Obama, because he's just another Bush apologist. Obama sings with you Righty's in unison - "We shouldn't get caught up in the past. We shouldn't be driven by vengeance and retribution. We shouldn't punish people whose motives in committing crimes weren't really that bad."

He's not going to go after the lawbreakers in the Bush administration. That's BIG. What do you think would happen to YOU if YOU committed a felony? Forgiveness?? I don't think so.

Plus, as a righty law and order Dude, you should want Bush to be held legally accountable, because you're surly going to want to hold Obama legally accountable. No?

Excon



Don rebutted and you have not answered to Holder's letting terrorist free?

Or Geithner not paying taxes for several years. Why don't you hold these people and Obama accountable. Your repetitive blathering about GITMO and "torture" may be an indication of Alzheimer's.


Yes, buy gold... because Obama will have the treasury printing out devaluing dollars for his PORKULUS / PORKAPALOOZA that masquerades as an economic stimulus...


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"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before.






Ooops... Rambo let out the Dem's true agenda :eek:








G&P

I have to believe in this man.
I believe he has helped to unite us as a country and we do help each other. That is who we are as Americans.
I am hopeful,I have seen people come together after 911 and it keeps on going.
We know if we as people are to survive and prosper we need to take care of each other and forgo our government. That is the message I get from my Prez and a message I have known for ever.

He has done a better job in 2 weeks than Bush did in 8 years.

Don rebutted and you have not answered to Holder's letting terrorist free?Hello again, in:

It's really quite simple. (1) We're not going to release them. (2) We are VERY good at imprisoning people. We stand head and shoulders above the rest of the world on that note. We're the worlds LEADING jailer.

excon

Yesterday Obama policy announced he was for the Unions and they were the backbone on America. Did he forget to read the weekly news how the big American car manufactures couldn't compete with Nissan and Toyota because there workers get paid 30 to 40 dollars and hour and the US. Car manufactures pay between 60 to 70 dollars. So what's the what happened to simple math hear!?

I gooled up what's the most dangerous city to live in of the U.S. 2 months ago doing some research. Then I looked up their Demographics and checked out the schools graduation rates. Some of the city schools had as much as 76% of the students quiting school or just not graduating.
On the news yesterday on the same follow up of Obamas speech it was said that 47% of Detroit is Illiterate. This was on the national news (NOT FOX)

Obama first big news in the papers was closing GITMO release some prisoners. Like this is really an important economy issue.

So who's in there that is all of a sudden ,so important, to be in the forefront for Obamas list of the what the U.S. needs for regrouping. Who's at GitMO to be On top of the list for our new president to worry about a prison in Cuba.

The unions became obsolete when global trading started. Hello any 1st year collage student could tell you that an American car manufacturing paying 70.00 per hrs Can't compete with the home base foreign manufactures pay 30.00 per hr.
Obviously he's not a stupid man so one needs to ask WHY does he say that and WHO is he actually backing. The car manufacturing Company pay The Union workers and who's the greatest king of people working at the plant!

With out getting politically stupid here in rebuttals of my post. Imagine being from off world here and just ask. Why would this Man say and do the things he's trying to do and contradict the Bean and math counters.

yesterday Obama policy announced he was for the Unions and they were the backbone on America. Did he forget to read the weekly news how the big American car manufactures couldn't compete with Nissan and Toyota because there workers get paid 30 to 40 dollars and hour and the US. Car manufactures pay between 60 to 70 dollars. So what's the what happened to simple math hear!?


That's not true, plain and simple,

TheStar.com | Business | Steelworkers' campaign targets Honda workers (http://www.thestar.com/article/306822)

"Union officials say Japanese automakers generally pay workers at their non-unionized plants in North America close to the same wages and major benefits as employees in union assembly operations.
However, pockets of dissension in some plants have emerged over the years concerning alleged unfair treatment of workers."



Obama first big news in the papers was closing GITMO release some prisoners. Like this is really an important economy issue.


Its an American issue though left by the Bushies. As Obama HAS said, he has several things to deal with, not just the economy, like TWO foreign wars! Oh by the way he never said they would be released, just re-evaluated, and processed accordingly.


Why would this Man say and do the things he's trying to do and contradict the Bean and math counters.
Beans and math counters are crunching numbers, and its real humans being crunched in REALITY OUT HERE!

"Union officials say Japanese automakers generally pay workers at their non-unionized plants in North America close to the same wages and major benefits as employees in union assembly operations. Its an American issue though left by the Bushies.
Talaniman I knew this was coming. So lets see go the bait and tackle sop to get fishing supplies and hear the guy behind the counter say. :Yea there biting on that and the blues are running strong at buoy 8 at the sea wall. I laughed what a sales pitch I fished the whole past 2 days there along with everybody else "TRUE STORY and nothing of the sort.
I ALSO belonged to Teamsters local 771 in the 80s dock work. Pay was $13.22 per Hr. Plus 100% eye /dental/medical got in there because construction was shot. I live in the country farm area and at the time housing out of the city was around $80,000.00 MY brother worked for another delivery trucking company and he was NON UNION $8.29 Per hour!!! So SO health insurances. I be real Curious as what was left out on the SLIDE Difference of what the medical end of the union auto to non union auto In the ACTUAL operating cost of hiring that auto worker. Or maybe when you read that it was what!!

Did the Union Report state that the non Union Auto workers work harder than the Union Workers did!!!!! I've lived the differences on the Docks to SEE IT. The Unions have Greatly went the other way. It was originally to help abuse of a worker in labor and fair wages. Now its helps LAZY workers because its gotten so lopsided. Again I'm the Expert on that and Lived it. So talaniman I guarantee you will NEVER see that truth in a UNION REPORT!!

So use YOUR common SENSE as to what do you think "The UNION officials" are going to, HAVE to report its close in pay to non Union to justifier Them being in existence. If not and it was close to the same then what. Don't forget Union dues which comes out of EVERY PAYCHECK from that Employees actual pay!! The more they Slant the report the more DUES!! they get. The Union is a business not a protection to that sense. Its a business of more more sales to keep them afloat and justify there existence. So believe what you want I WAS A UNION WORKER WERE YOU. I saw the differences, which ironically is about the same spread as the numbers I REPORTED as Well as The live NEWS right after Obamas speech this past week.

Who do you think RAN the Mafia Unions to begin with. The Report your reading is like asking a drug dealer on a corner street do you think the drugs here are higher than the other side of town. Do you think theres a lot of illegal drug activity here?! Boy how naive people have become. OH lets not forget that most ALL media is pro liberal. So at best when it goes in favor of the Conservative side we just get bit and pieces of the truth. Again I come form LIVING IT AT GROUND LEVEL. I become that TRUTHFULLY REPORT my paycheck proves it and so does my Brothers and the workers there. So at that point and time I WAS the EXPERT I didn't need to read a Union Report. The numbers I heard last week is almost exactly the same difference in spread ( scale difference ) from 1981 to 2009.

I have been running a business for over 20 years and if I had to pay even $1.50 an hour more than my competitor at the same business I'm in Hello So what here paying ANY measurable difference in auto workers is want, Oops I forgot to mention how the Toyota etc taxes are complied differently for our foreign competes that manufacture here. Could also explain why Ford Motor company was in Africa. or Johnson and Jonson and Major drug Companies are in Puerto Rico Tax breaks!! Hershey foods building a big plant In MEXICO. It keeps the unions out or weak in power too. So do the simple economics hear and see how the real report is. Oh the unions also was one of the silent biggies to help push real hard to get the law changed in the U.S. to get the sticker MADE in the USA. So the Assembly was done here so THEY wouldn't Loose their DUES they live on.

Just so you know I have nothing against unions they helped stop child/women slavery in our factories during the start of out industrial revolution. But in a GLOBAL economy it will NEVER work and is hurting us to adjust to that world economy. Ironically Thats EXACTLY what gave the foreign auto industry its strong foot hold to take DOWN the top 3 US Giant auto Companies. I bet that is not on the front page of ANY Union Report!

My dad work for another Union in Armstrong World Industries which between that and the asbestos suits took a fortune 500 company to its knees and couldn't compete in the non Union Global Economy. So I feel I'm one of the EXPERTS here on unions so what union do you belong to talanim ? Ive sat listen to MY Union reports and Knows how that Goes

The bushies did not BUILD GETMO and its been used for the COLD WAR for a LONG TIME for the same thing so again how naive people are today. What ever happened to common sense here. I know the liberals are missing a lot of it and they are stupid to think all of us are that stupid. Hows that go "A fool is to fool oneself" Wasn't it the logic of our sciences that got us hear, and now whipping around the planet and space.

I WAS A UNION WORKER WERE YOU

More than 30 years, served on the safety committee. I know how it goes, and can even understand how a company would do anything to stop having a union shop in his business. Heaven forbid them poor Mexicans, or Koreans, get a freaking union. Then they can buy some of the things they make. How about if the Asians had a union, think they could afford some of the clothes they make in their sweatshops?? Poor Wal-mart might have to pay them a living wage.

What you speak of is exploitation. And when the global economy figures it out led by the free world and the INTERNET, where is Wal-mart going to go for cheap labor?

Oh, I guess what you would rather have is Americans, making Asian wages??

That explins the pro Union huh how slanted can a commite Pro Union worker be on a union Report!!

That's like talking to the Drug Dealer

Meet your kind before

How ironic

No try owning a business that's Union and compete with the Global Economy

how slanted can a committee Pro Union worker be on a union Report!!


As slanted as a CEO who runs his company into the ground and gets a bail out... and a bonus.

The unions didn't break the bank, and the rich ain't bailing them out either.

Are you? I am!

To Judykay “This is simply not true. Where did you read it?”

Hear is a small part where I read this. I don't make it up its public informantion

I can get back for other doucmantion for the union and wages differences too. So I can answer your question completely.
USATODAY.com - Big-city schools struggle with graduation rates (http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-06-20-dropout-rates_x.htm)

This is from book American Idol winner Fantasia Barrino which is a great story.
This and the other sites reflect what I said and the presdeints comments on the news too.
The revelations have struck a raw nerve in Detroit, where 47 percent -- nearly one of out of every two adults -- is functionally illiterate, according to a government report, "The State of Literacy in America." In fact, national studies suggest Detroit's illiteracy rate is the highest among major American cities. According to a 2002 United Nations report, Detroit falls short even when compared to developing Third World nations, such as Cuba, which has 2.7 percent illiteracy rate. In Ecuador, 7 percent of adults can't read, and in El Salvador, 18.9 percent of adults. When an Idol can't read - 10/12/05 (http://www.detnews.com/2005/events/0510/12/E01-345560.htm)
Here is how the figures vary here However, the bureaucrats at Detroit Public Schools are going nuts because they say the numbers are “totally erroneous.” They say that they report a graduation rate of 67% to the state. So who is telling the truth? They both are. The difference is that Michigan school districts are only required to report the graduation rate of current seniors. In other words, they calculate it by taking the number of students who start the 12th grade and dividing it by the number of students who graduate that year. The Education Week report takes the more realistic approach of taking the number of students to start the 9th grade and dividing that into the number who actually graduate in the 12th grade. You see, many of the students who drop out do so before the 12th grade. Detroit Public Schools is misleading the public, as is the state of Michigan, by only reporting graduation rates of 12th graders.The one study was done in 2002 the one below shows the trend form the to 2006. I could get 2008 but enough is here it speaks for itself. Hear are to comparables and reflects what the president is talking about

Lowest to highest graduation rates in the nation's 50 largest school districts

Rate District Size rank

21.7 Detroit 11

Source: EPE Research Center
Posted 6/20/2006 6:11 PM ET
Updated 6/20/2006 11:26 PM E

Let me know if you need info on the rest of my post comments . I only posted a small portion of the school and the 47% illiterate numbers and rate of %

I can get back for other documentation for the union and wages differences too. So I can answer your question completely.


Make sure you include the tax breaks that Japanese car companies get for putting plants here in the US. ( of which Toyota has closed 9/10 assembly lines today ) and just curious, how do you expect to compete in the global economy when the American workers are on food stamps? Ya think the rest of the world can make money without the biggest consumers in the world? Can your own workers afford to buy what they make? Just curious. I agree with the education part of your post, though.

Make sure you include the tax breaks that Japanese car companies get for putting plants here in the US. ( of which Toyota has closed 9/10 assembly lines today ) and just curious, how do you expect to compete in the global economy when the American workers are on food stamps?? Ya think the rest of the world can make money without the biggest consumers in the world??

I agree with some points hear.

As an arrogant American I hope not but I think we missed that one. The development of India and I believe they just past the double pop mark is an untapped market and just getting Started like China did years ago. Speaking of the auto industry and all of the buyers there for the $2,500 $3,000 car. Think how that market is going to swing as we the big three are in BAD shape.

I understand where you are coming from. Last week on a show it was said China makes over 80% of the children toys for the U.S. 60 minutes in the 80s, It was about other countries not paying there fair share in U.S. taxes The way that worked on importing VCRs was the foreign Company shipped VCRs to an island that had a "Holiday Tax" what ever that was I will never forget the words? Shipped from there to the U.S. and claimed the only made a couple of dollars profit on the sale of one VCR. They weren't cheap on ratio to the 80s paycheck.

I'm not an expert on our immigration U.S. laws but as I understood there was and probably still is a 5 year tax break for minorities Business here for whatever U.S. criteria was met.

It was inevitable we were going to crash. Between the rising powers in demand for products and the unbalance of comparable cost in there cheap help in foreign countries to ours it is and was to lopsided and it caught up. Of course our 55 billion leaving the U.S. didn't help and sped that along and collapsed the house of cards, which was mentioned back in the Clinton years and from then to now I feel they all screwed up.

The food stamps and welfare has its place but its not policed properly. And its one of those BIG growing markets that is So abused, So badly so that just this past summer a city police officer was at my job site because, of stolen tools again, and he told me he arrested a person that had 3 recent Welfare checks on him. NY. NJ. Pa. He called NY and they said oh well, can't do anything about it.

Obama wants and is starting more welfare and its to help America. Huh That what's went so wrong in time since it started. I have a simple solution to help stop some big abuse of Gov Checks. Random Drug Test to get a Gov Check. Why not. Basically Gov. big business are required to drug test employees for insurance reasons etc. So why not have it for Welfare checks and food stamps. SO I feel the whiplash here will hurt more than help the U.S.
Get back to you on that auto comparable and will check on the diff in base pay and I feel the tax brake will offset that a lot when middle and upper management pay rates compared to Toyota etc Good point no matter what in the broad sense.

That would make a good thread.

Obama wants and is starting more welfare and its to help America


Two million workers lost their jobs, what, are they supposed to starve all of a sudden? There are no jobs being created by the wealthy, or the small business community, so you tell me how do people feed their kids and heat their homes or buy a darn thing in this climate.

Why is it like this? TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMIC, supply and demand, There can be no supply without demand so we all just sit and look at each other. ( Reagan's economy was smoke and mirrors and led to the biggest deficit of that time, sorry I was there, and he WAS a union buster to boot )

Darn those welfare people for taking all the money!!! Fie on those poor lazy folks for bringing down Wall Street! Hang 'em high I say!!!

When do the rich guys get laid off????

21boat: This is from book American Idol winner Fantasia Barrino which is a great story.


I don't consider Fantasia Barrino to be a great (or even a good) source when researching.

This is like going on the legal board and quoting Judge Judy - only worse.

To answer the original question, everybody is watching Obama. I find it creepy that so many people have a sort of cult adoration of him, however. I'm a skeptic. It won't take much to do better than Bush, you know?

Even though I voted for John McCain, I think the larger good was served by showing the world that the United States was finally mature enough to elect a man whose father was a black Kenyan and whose mother was a white American.

As someone from outside the US, who holds an American as well as an Irish passport, the day he was inaugurated was one of the first days in a long time that I had felt proud to say I was an American citizen. He has inspired the world, and for the first time in a long time America can hold it's head up high.


So do I think he will fail?

Realistically how can he not with the insurmountable expectations piling up on him.

The English Blog: Cartoon: Obama's Oath (http://jeffreyhill.typepad.com/english/2009/01/cartoon-obamas-oath.html)

Have a look at what was in the Irish Times the day he was inaugurated.

I don't know what anybody else is busy doing but am busy watching himmm
The man tryna to better out the hole bush did and I can't believe there are people here saying negativities about him... geez grow up!!

i dont know what anybody else is busy doing but am busy watching himmm
the man tryna to better out the hole bush did and i can't beleive there are people here saying negativities about him...geez grow up!!!!!!



I also find your odd combination of street talk and text messaging makes it difficult to take you seriously on a political board.

Sometimes it is better to be silent and thought to be stupid than speak and prove it.

I have been proud to be an American citizen and veteran for 62 years. My patriotism doesn't fluctuate based on who is elected as long as I still have the right to vote.
The important thing right now is where is your 800 billion or so is going? The state I am from has 16% going to infrastructure, and 72%to health and education. If this is a trend across the country (not to question the importance of health and education-but) we will have the healthiest, smartest peasants ever to scrounge for scraps of food since Grapes of Wrath days.

I think its takes more than a month to come in and repair, the damages done to this country over the last few years.

Government has never ever been able to Fix ANY problems, They are the cause of the problems we have today. Congress is the biggest culprit in the financial mess we are seeing today. You cannot continue to blame one political party when it is abundantly clear that both parties have had a major hand in this mess. Only solution enact term limits, and vote everyone of them out of office as soon as possible.

And for you I rather like for you to ignore my post instead of trying to be my teacher here... am free to speak as I want, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY I WRITE JUST IGNORE IT!!

Government has never ever been able to Fix ANY problems, They are the cause of the problems we have today. Congress is the biggest culprit in the financial mess we are seeing today. You cannot continue to blame one political party when it is abundantly clear that both parties have had a major hand in this mess. Only solution enact term limits, and vote everyone of them out of office as soon as possible.