I am around 185lbs and about 6-2 or 6-3 feet tall

I want to get a firmer and flatter stomach

Not necessarily 6pack abs but that would be great

But what can I do to get this?

Do I burn the fat first or what please help...

U can do crunches but if u stop doing it u'll develop much higher flabs than u had.so u should do it continuosly

u can do crunches but if u stop doin it u'll develop much higher flabs than u had.so u should do it continuosly

How?? How would I get fatter from exercing?

Hey u've misunderstood what I sadi.I didn't say u'll become fatter by exercising.
I said if you stop doing crunches u'll develop greater flabs .
i.e.. u shouldn't stop doing it after you get a flatter ab.

Oh okay but should I burn the fat first or what??
Wouldn't the crunches put muscle on fat

Having visible abs is about having low body fat. You need to reduce your kcal intake and/or exercise more.

I think I have 17% and about 30pounds of bad fat

How long should it take guys?

At least to get down to maybe like 10-15?

Everythin doesn't happen of a sudden.it may take 2-3 months for some visible changes.but do it continuosly.have a healthy (low cal)diet.

Yeah I understand that it takes a while I was just asking how long for results