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newchapter
Dec 28, 2008, 07:36 PM
Does anyone know what happened to my previous question? It's missing or has been deleted.

It was about a struggle I'm having as a Muslim woman and this was the only place I could turn for help. I had already had 3 responses (from Fr_Chuck, Gem_0225 and another from someone who discussed freedom of religion in Islam... I may have their names wrong).

Now my question is gone. Are there some questions you cannot ask on this board?

LENA11
Dec 28, 2008, 07:46 PM
Find jesus , he is the answer to all

newchapter
Dec 29, 2008, 09:59 PM
I'm disappointed that there is no assistance on the Islam thread for a Muslim who is struggling. It seems that the help here is only for non-Muslims with questions or for Muslims whose faith is very strong. I'm simply a person who has questions and feels her faith faltering. I have questions about some things in the Quran and in the prophet's life which trouble me. Why is it wrong to seek help? I've been a Muslim my entire life. I don't want to leave the religion but I'm upset with many of the accepted beliefs and need guidance. How do other Muslims deal with contradictions and unfairness? Maybe there's something I'm missing here. I know it's worse to be a hypocrite than a non-believer. If I left Islam, I don't know where I'd go. This is all I've ever known. And I do see the good in Islam. The focus on family and education, for example. But like I mentioned in my deleted post, the mal-treatment of women throughout the Muslim world is bothering me a lot lately. Anyway, that's all.

firmbeliever
Dec 30, 2008, 11:05 AM
Assalaam alaikum NewC,

I would like to know what was it you had been asking on your previous thread?

About the mistreatment of women, I would like to say that as a muslim woman it is our duty to educate our children and families on how women are supposed to be treated.To learn ourselves how the Prophet (pbuh) treated the women in his life.

Wa alaikum salaam

Fr_Chuck
Dec 30, 2008, 11:34 AM
I found it attacking and so anti Muslim that it was offensive,

I am not sure if it was a true post or merely an anti muslim post.

We are protective of hate filled messages against any religious faith.

So I deleted some of your posts and have the rest under review

newchapter
Dec 30, 2008, 12:09 PM
I'm afraid to say anything now out of fear that it'll be seen as anti-Islam and deleted. So, I really don't think I can voice my opinions on the issues I'm having problems with. Since when is it wrong to ask a question? The thoughts are in my head, they can't be deleted. It's unfair to censor someone only because they're struggling and having a hard time. Even if you choose to delete this post and my other one on the Mental Health board, I'll still think what I want. I'll still be struggling. The only difference will be you won't hear it anymore. I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought a Muslim reported my post or deleted me. I apologize to all the Muslims here.

If I didn't care, I'd dump my religion. But that's not what I want. I've been a Muslim for over 30 years. Sorry if I didn't word things properly. If my words came out too harsh, I apologize. I've been very upset about this lately. I want my faith back. When I was little, I believed whole-heartedly. I prayed 5x/day, I fasted before it was required. I believed everything without question. But as I've gotten older, I've become disillusioned. I read certain things in the Quran and Hadith and wonder about them. Many things seem unfair or not quite right. I feel like I'm beating my head against the wall trying to get help with this. I have to tiptoe around and be politically correct. Is there anyone in this world that counsels Muslims who find their faith slipping away? And will let them ask any question they want? I need a very kind and open-minded Muslim therapist. The Gandhi or Dr. King or Mother Theresa of the Muslims. Someone who'll let me express my concerns without making me feel like I'm a terrible person for even thinking such thoughts.

Fr_Chuck
Dec 30, 2008, 04:02 PM
Please understand I am one of the moderators on the board, I would not allow someone to speak badly of Christianity, for example those that want to attack Mormons, Catholics and others.

You can post, but not sure what you are wanting, the Muslim religion as taught in the Quarn is a religion of peace, if some sects within it or some extremests are using it to teach hate, they are no different than others using relgion for their own goals or gains.

In some areas such as mental health or even relationships it is a little more open, There is also discussion group areas where more open talking is allowed.

After 911 I worked security for one of the mosques ( spelling ?) here in town when I was off duty as a police officer. I have read the Quran a few times ( english version) and studied it with some people a few years ago.
I let the experts here answer the questions on their faith, but try asking how you can move on, without listing all the things you hated about them.

newchapter
Dec 31, 2008, 02:30 AM
I know you've posted here thousands of times and are looking to help people. But in your zeal to make sure no one hurts any Muslims, you've hurt a Muslim. I know Islam is a religion of peace. But not everything in the basic beliefs of Islam is about peace. There is a green light given to violence in some situations. Any Muslim knows that. Islam will not crumble because one person has questions. I didn't say hateful things. I said I hate being a Muslim woman lately. I hate my life as a Muslim woman. It is unfair and full of roadblocks. And many of the restrictions come directly from the Quran and Hadith. I don't need to explain to you what I want. I've explained it already. Muslims will understand if I quote from Sura Al-Nisa and they can help me to comprehend things that don't make sense to me. Muslims know. Muslims debate and discuss quotes from the Quran and Hadith. Some Muslims will say, "Do not question" and others will say, "This is why it's written ..." I'm looking for the latter.

I know I can post somewhere else. You can post somewhere else too. But the Islam thread is where Muslims are. They have the most background information. I'm not an Islamic scholar but there are people on this thread who are. I've already heard from some. I realize you're trying to make sure no anti-Islam posts come through. But in this case, you've made a mistake and censored someone who didn't deserve it. I've been suffering as a Muslim woman for years and finally in the last few weeks have decided to get the courage to ask tough questions. I do not have anyone in my family who I can talk to. They are strict Muslims and a hint of disagreement will not be taken well. It would make things worse. Simply getting help here has turned into a nightmare. I have 1 deleted post. I have 2 new posts that are causing confusion. And I've written to the forum boards for help and have heard nothing. This is unfair and has made me feel worse than before. And the fact that there isn't a single Muslim person here who's willing to step up and say, "It's OK to have questions, you shouldn't be censored for that" makes me feel alienated and isolated and alone. And that's how I've always felt as a Muslim woman.

mercoria
Jun 14, 2009, 12:32 PM
Hey sis

I know how you feel. Back when I was a kid I believed wole heartedly in Allah and everythin, but then life just screws you over and shaytaan starts whispering and you begin doubting. I was at the extent of not even believing in a god at all.

My reasons though, was because my family confused culture and religion together and completely tried to ruin my life and education. Girls shouldn't do this, girls shouldn't do that YET it was completely OK for my brothers to smoke weed, date girls etc etc. When asking my mum why they were allowed to.. she'd answer 'it doesn't look too bad if boys do it'

Which made me then question Islam and why this cultural belief is only present in Muslim faith and areas. You don't see this view in England, in the average white middle class family, do you? Yet all asians and middle eastern people 'pride' themselves of this injustice

So many nights I thought I'll just give up and die, but Ive carried on sis, and hopefully I'll be graduatin soon with a Psychology degree and most importantly, also my Islamic faith

Point is man, I got to a point where I started looking in the Quaran and seeing what I though, 'conflictions' and mistakes. I don't know what your personal 'incorrections' in the Quaran seem to have been, but I can assure you that whatever you experience negatively in the external world, you incoproate this in your uncouncious mind, which turns to anxeity and doubt. This later comes out externally, and you start believing your seeing 'mistakes' or whatever. In my case, the conflict between male and female social roles was unfair, and then when I begun reading the Quaran again, I was so affected by this, that I misinterpreted the Quaran too, based on my own personal life experience.

I wish you the best of luck hun. And I pray for all of us to keep faith in these times

Love and respect x

cozyk
Jun 15, 2009, 07:12 AM
Hey Newchapter, I am not a Muslim. But I think it is very healthy and wise to question the aspects of your faith and make sure that it holds up against your scrutiny. I hope you find the answers you seek and that people more qualified than I come to your aid.

Golden_Girl
Sep 16, 2009, 09:27 PM
Newchapter are you still there? Were you able to find help?