Soooo, I met the most wonderful, beautiful, terrific, girl... ever
Well, she's a scene girl, if you don't know what that is, Google it, but any ways, she's so sweet, so cute, she laughs at all my jokes, we've been going out for at least a week, but I may not be her type, you see, all her friends are emo nancy boys, and other scene girls, I'm a SEAL team brat, they wear scarves, I wear steal toed boots, they listen to gay bands(I don't know the names maaan), I listen to ac dc, but I still want to see this girl, we've been on a few dates, not too many, and most of them her friends tagged along, her familily is religious, I'm far from it, I used to smoke pot, I still smoke cigies, and djirum blacks(mostly), I drink, and I'm a mean drunk, I used to fight, a lot, and she found out, but she doesn't really seemed bothered by it, but you never know. She doesn't know about the smoking or drinking though.
Some one told me that she might be only going out with me for rebound, she recently broke up with one of her friends, who also feels he has to tag along when I'm with her, it was also made clear that she may be only going out with me because of my "bad boy" image
I really need your guys help

Before I start, how old are you?

He's 15.

And honestly I know you're really into her but you've only seen her outer persona. When you know the real her you'll have your answer. And don't really go off what other people say about her and what she wants.

Let me get this straight.. You're a fifteen year old smoker? Working on becoming an alcoholic? Where are your parents? Anyway, apart from the problems your having with this girl you have BIGGER problems to deal with. You shouldn't be worrying about ANY girls until you fix these first.

Before I start, how old are you?
I'm fifteen

Let me get this straight.. You're a fifteen year old smoker? Working on becoming an alcoholic? Where are your parents? Anyways, apart from the problems your having with this girl you have BIGGER problems to deal with. You shouldn't be worrying about ANY girls until you fix these first.
Ill be fine. They don't need to know, and honestly, I don't want them too, I didn't ask for you to help me with drinking and smokin, I asked you to help me with girl problums

Like you said, she doesn't know about those things. Tell her, then get back to me.

Like you said, she doesn't know about those things. Tell her, then get back to me.
I can't do it, I've had girls break up with me before because I smoke

For good reason.

For good reason.
Whys that?

No fifteen year old should be "DRINKING and SMOKING" you have bigger problems than this girl.

No fifteen year old should be "DRINKING and SMOKING" you have bigger problems than this girl.
I know that, but if things don't work out with this girl, ill smoke and drink more, I have a clinical deoression, I take meds, but it still helps to have some smokes in me, I don't drink all the time, only at parties, but when I do, I drink a lot

Smoking is not a solution to your problem. Working out is a good way to reduce the stress in your life.

Smoking is not a solution to your problem. Working out is a good way to reduce the stress in your life.
What makes you think I don't work out, I do kayak, I'm nallways hunting,n and camping, I hike, lift weights, and do situps

I never said you didn't. I'm just trying to help. That's good.. Keep it up.. If that doesn't work.. Find other stress relieving activities. Have you tried yoga? Meditation?

I never said you didn't. I'm just trying to help. That's good.. Keep it up.. If that doesn't work.. Find other stress relieving activities. Have you tried yoga? Meditation?
Well, I kind of do, I play guitar, when I can't smoke, and I do get stressed, it helps to play some video games, nothing relives stress like killing a few nazis
I also read, listen to music, and I seem less stressed when I'm with. My new girlfriend, that's why I don't want to ruin this relationship, because she's different than my other gfs

Ok, I need more information about you two, why do you think you'll ruin this relationship? Why do you think this is (YOUR) fault?

Ok, I need more information about you two, why do you think you'll ruin this relationship? Why do you think this is (YOUR) fault?
We've been going out for a week, she's really sweet and really cute, she's awfully childish, but that's what I like about her, its kind of like this, I look at things really seriously, and I'm kind of negative,m but she's so positive, and uplifting, I love that about her
But, we have nothing in common

Just because you have nothing in common doesn't mean it won't work out, it'll just give you more to talk about, and 411help, you should work on not judging people for smoking, is it your body, no. so don't worry about it plus he wasn't asking about smoking and drinking, he was asking about his relationship, sorry if I offended you but it's his choice. As I was saying about this relationship thing, it'll give you two more to talk about and as they always say, opposites always attract, so no worries. Enjoy going out with her. Good luck! :D

Ok, so she just called me to wish me a merry christmas, she's so sweet, and so it gave me an opertunity to tell her, so I did, I told her about the smoking and the drinking, and she said she was fine with it, but it sounded like she was lying

Just so you know, alcohol IS a depressant and if your clinically depressed drinking makes it worse, whether your on meds or not.

If your serious about being a good partner, work on the bad habits, and the lack of positive thinking and just be a good guy to the female. You don't have to stress, just be yourself, and have fun, and stay on your better behavior.

Relax and enjoy And don't say can't. You can if you want to.

just because you have nothing in common doesn't mean it won't work out, it'll just give you more to talk about, and 411help, you should work on not judging people for smoking, is it your body, no. so don't worry about it plus he wasn't asking about smoking and drinking, he was asking about his relationship, sorry if i offended you but it's his choice. as i was saying about this relationship thing, it'll give you two more to talk about and as they always say, opposites always attract, so no worries. enjoy going out with her. good luck! :D

He's underage.

He's underage. yes he is but it was his choice, like I said, not my body, I don't care, well I do care, but it wasn't my bad choice and it's not going to affect me in any way because I'm not the one doing this stuff. Sorry if I don't agree with your opinion, but I don't see why you are worrying about it if you hardly know this guy, even though it will hurt him later, it is a lesson he needs to learn, not you. Sorry if I'm being insensitive about this, but that choice wasn't yours, mine, or anyone else's, it was his and I know you're trying to help, but he needs help with something else now.

I wouldn't be surprised if she already knows about the smoking. People who smoke usually smell like smoke all the time so if it is a regular thing then if she doesn't know now than you won't be able to hide it for to long. You need to tell her because you don't know what her reaction is going to be and if she breaks up with you for it than so be it but if she finds out that you were hiding it from her then the possibility of her ending it goes WAY up! As far as her other friends and you not being sure if she really likes you take her on a real take the initiative to let her know that you want to get to know her better go all out figure out what kinds of things she's into movies bowling whatever she will appreciate it.

Well, I did it again, I got in another fight, with one of her friends, he was saying bs about her while she was using the bathroom, so, I punched him in the nose, she walked in, he was in tears, I had his blood on my hand, and she made me go home, we haven't talked in like three hours, and she isn't answering my texts, I f***ed up big time

Your out of control don't you think?

Your out of control don't you think??
I don't know what to say to that, I think he deserved it, he was calling her a slut

i dont know what to say to that, i think he deserved it, he was calling her a slut
You said he was one of her friends.

You had no business punching him. You could end up in jail or in juvie detention for that.

You said he was one of her friends.

You had no business punching him. You could end up in jail or in juvie detention for that.
He had no business calling my girl friend a slut

he had no buisness calling my girl freind a slut
So we punch anyone we think has no business saying something? Why did he call her a slut if she is one of his friends? Is she by reputation?

So we punch anyone we think has no business saying something? Why did he call her a slut if she is one of his friends? Is she by reputation?
Its her ex, I have no idea why he hangs out with her, I guess it's a girl thing

Like I said before, you have bigger problems to worry about and should be asking about before we discuss your girl problems.

Like I said before, you have bigger problems to worry about and should be asking about before we discuss your girl problems.
What problums

Anger, alcohol, and tobacco.

Anger, alcohol, and tobacco.
Well, those are problums that will work then selves out, right now, I'm in pretty deep s##t

Don't worry man.. I started smoking when I was about your age... I know how it is.. its not exactly the easiest thing to just up and quit... now for this girl.. if you like her I would keep up what your doing.. but if you don't like her friends tagging along tell her..

Well, those are problums that will work then selves out, right now, I'm in pretty deep s##t
That's just not true dude, those are problems you need to work at overcoming or they will come back to bite you in the butt. You already see how the anger problem has affected your life. And the alcohol, but until you recognize your own problems, and mistakes, and do something about it, you will always be in deep doodoo!

Well, she finally answered my texts, she gave me a chance to explain myself, she kind of understood, I think this guy still has feelings for her, and I guess he was jealous, I don't exactly know

well, she finally answered my texts, she gave me a chance to explain myself, she kinda understood, i think this guy still has feelings for her, and i guess he was jealous, i dont exactly know
And you still don't see anything wrong with what you did, do you. Have you ever stepped outside your own skin and tried to imagine someone else's feelings? You said when you punched that kid in the nose, you made him cry. Clint Eastwood would hang his head in shame if he knew. At least the original MWNN had control of himself and wasn't a solipist like you are. Maybe you oughta watch those spaghetti westerns again, this time with an open mind.

And you still don't see anything wrong with what you did, do you. Have you ever stepped outside your own skin and tried to imagine someone else's feelings? You said when you punched that kid in the nose, you made him cry. Clint Eastwood would hang his head in shame if he knew. At least the original MWNN had control of himself and wasn't a solipist like you are. Maybe you oughta watch those spaghetti westerns again, this time with an open mind.
Well of course I feel bad, but no one insults my girlfriend, hell any girl for that matter, you don't go around calling girls sluts, in front of her boy friend, and not expect anything to happin

You need to get away from your perceived, fantasy world and look around you at the real one. She is hardly your girlfriend, and you have no business punching someone in the nose. There are better, adult ways to deal with insults and abuses.

Reminds me of that guy on Christmas Eve who showed up at his ex in-laws' party and was dressed in a Santa suit. He shot up the people there and burned down the house after shooting an 8 y/o girl in the face. He decided he had been abused by his ex-wife and was going to show all of them, yessiree bobtail.

You need to get away from your perceived, fantasy world and look around you at the real one. She is hardly your gf, and you have no business punching someone in the nose. There are better, adult ways to deal with insults and abuses.

Reminds me of that guy on Christmas Eve who showed up at his ex in-laws' party and was dressed in a Santa suit. He shot up the people there and burned down the house after shooting an 8 y/o girl in the face. He decided he had been abused by his ex-wife and was gonna show all of them, yessiree bobtail.
What does that have to do with defending some one who isn't there to defend themselves, maybe I don't have any business punching people in the face, but he has no business calling my girlfriend, and yes she is my girlfriend, a slut, and yeah, there are more adult ways of dealing with things like that, but if you haven't noticed, I'm fifteen

When you start justifying your own bad behavior, that means you have learned nothing, and will make the mistake again.

Get a clue dude, because he was wrong, doesn't make you right. If violence is the only solution you can come up with, your not just thinking wrong, but doing wrong, and that comes with a price to pay too.

You can do better, if you want to.

what does that have to do with defending some one who isnt there to defend them selves, maybe i dont have any buisness punching people in the face, but he has no buisness calling my gf, and yes she is my gf, a slut, and yeah, there are more adult ways of dealing with things like that, but if you havnt noticed, im fifteen
Oh, finally. Now you're just a kid, just 15 y/o and hardly responsible for himself. What happened to all that tough talk about law enforcement classes (certainly you're learning something more legally important than how to pick locks, like ethics for instance?), and the SWAT and Blackwater stuff. And now you are calling her a slut too?? Who's going to punch you in the nose?

Oh, finally. Now you're just a kid, just 15 y/o and hardly responsible for himself. What happened to all that tough talk about law enforcement classes (certainly you're learning something more legally important than how to pick locks, like ethics for instance?), and the SWAT and Blackwater stuff. And now you are calling her a slut too????? Who's going to punch you in the nose?
I didn't say she was a slut, I was finishing the sentence, there were comas there, so what I said was he had no business calling my girlfreind, then I said yes she is my girlfreind, because you said she is hardly my girlfriend, then I finished the sentense, what I said was he had no business calling my girl friend a slut, understand?
Im studying law inforcement, I'm not in it yet

Im studying law inforcement, im not in it yet
I said in a post above, "What happened to all that tough talk about law enforcement classes (certainly you're learning something more legally important than how to pick locks, like ethics for instance?)"

I said in a post above, "What happened to all that tough talk about law enforcement classes (certainly you're learning something more legally important than how to pick locks, like ethics for instance?)"
Yes I am, but I'm not a cop yet

yes i am, but im not a cop yet
So you won't learn ethics and civilized behavior until you're a cop? The police forces I know about don't hire people who have a history of punching and other bad behavior.

So you won't learn ethics and civilized behavior until you're a cop? The police forces I know about don't hire people who have a history of punching and other bad behavior.
They would, they don't care about what you did before you join, it only matters what you do while you're a cop

You certainly don't know anything about police forces, you will go though a very complete background check, including interviews with mental health professionals and a lie detector test.

If you have a history of violence they will not even give you a chance to complete the interview process.

You certainly don't know anything about police forces, you wil go though a very complete background check, including interviews with mental health professionals and a lie detector test.

If you have a history of violence they will not even give you a chance to complete the interview process.
Aperintly you don't, yeah background test, yeah lie detector, but aslong as your honest they'll let you in the force, and just because I punched a kid in the face doesn't meen I'm a bad kid, hell, it was an accident, I'm sorry for doing it, godamn, don't go telling me that I can't do what I want to do with life just because I made some mistakes, and don't you dare tell me to go with god, I have a feeling that's comeing up, there is no god for me

Just try not to screw up

Aperintly you don't, yeah background test, yeah lie detector, but aslong as your honest they'll let you in the force, and just because I punched a kid in the face doesn't meen I'm a bad kid, hell, it was an accident, I'm sorry for doin it, godamn, don't go telling me that I can't do what I want to do with life just because I made some mistakes, and don't you dare tell me to go with god, I have a feeling that's comeing up, there is no god for me
A policeman has to be literate too (ten mistakes in a quick count of only this post of yours). And no, they won't give you a pass for "being honest" about your uncivilized past. They don't want hotheads on the force. And don't say punching that kid was an accident.

We are not keeping you from getting what you want out of life. You are making very poor choices. Police forces don't want immature, out-of-control people even to apply.

Geez kid, you're immature. Embrace advice, don't bash it. We're telling you that you have problems, very clear ones. Either you want to accept that or not.

Just because I punched a kid in the face doesn't meen I'm a bad kid, hell, it was an accident,

No it wasn't, that's BS, which is lame. You made a mistake and sorry doesn't cover it unless you correct that mistake.

No it wasn't, thats BS, which is lame. You made a mistake and sorry doesn't cover it unless you correct that mistake.
How do I go about doing that?

Apologize to the affected parties, and mean it, and start thinking before you act. To be better, you must do better.

Leave the excuses for your own behavior behind, and take responsibility for your actions.

For example, talking crazy after drinking to much, stop the behavior of drinking to much. (Not saying you do, just saying as an example) Sometimes apologies are not enough, but if thats all you have, better to learn from the mistake, by not repeat it.

Ok, so I apoligized to everyone who was there, and I let the dude punch me back, in the face
So me and her are good

Sigh, why would you let this kid punch you?

Sigh, why would you let this kid punch you?
Or is that his easy answer to get us off his back? I mean, gee, that was days ago. I find it hard to believe the kid's parents haven't done anything about it. I sure would have.

Sigh, why would you let this kid punch you?
I punched him, I let him return the favor

You really need an older guy to talk to. Not one of your tough guy friends either, more like a male counselor at school, or a relative, father maybe. You have anger issues, that will land you in jail one day.

You really need an older guy to talk to. Not one of your tough guy friends either, more like a male counselor at school, or a relative, father maybe. You have anger issues, that will land you in jail one day.
I talked to my guitar teacher about it, he just said I'm young, and I'm going to make mistakes, and ill eventually learn, and if I don't, I'm probubly going to end up dead
But who wants to live forever, not me
Is it wrong that I fingered my girlfriend in the movie theater, is that frowned upon, or something

I talked to my guitar teacher bout it, he just said I'm young, and I'm gonna make mistakes, and ill eventually learn, and if I don't, I'm probubly gonna end up dead
But who wants to live forever, not me
Is it wrong that I fingered my gf in the movie theater, is that frowned upon, or something
Yes. It's against the rules of the theater. So now you're going to mess up this girl's life too?

Yes. It's against the rules of the theater. So now you're going to mess up this girl's life too?
Not my idea, hers
And I would never mess up her life

You're so stubborn. I don't think any of us should waste any more time on you.

Yes. It's against the rules of the theater. So now you're going to mess up this girl's life too?
I would gladley ruin my life, if it means that she'll be happy

I would gladley ruin my life, if it means that she'll be happy
Then stop touching her. Deny yourself for her.

You're so stubborn. I don't think any of us should waste any more time on you.
You just want to talk about my smokin and drinking, I'm fine, if I end up dead because of it, so be it, not your problum, mine

Whys that?

Why do you think?
'smoking makes you stink
Its unattractive
Waaaaaaaayyyy to bad for [I]your[I]age
And sometimes even rots your teeth

You could stand an attitude adjustment for sure. Any one who doesn't love themselves enough to at least try and be a good human being, sure can't care about another, and I don't care what you say about your feelings for this female.

So if you would rather be dead, than change your own behavior, you'll probably get what you want. That's completely your choice.

Then stop touching her. Deny yourself for her.
It wasn't my idea, she grabbed my arm in the middle of the movie, and just slided my hand down her panties

You could stand an attitude adjustment for sure. Any one who doesn't love themselves enough to at least try and be a good human being, sure can't care about another, and I don't care what you say about your feelings for this female.

So if you would rather be dead, than change your own behavior, you'll probably get what you want. Thats completely your choice.
You don't understand, she's the only thing that's going good for me, ever wake up in the morning and look at the razorblade on your sink, and just think to yourself, wow that's a real inving sight, just a quik slit, and no more hurt, well I don't hafto think like that anymore, I have her

You don't understand, she's the only thing that's going good for me, ever wake up in the morning and look at the razorblade on your sink, and just think to your self, wow that's a real inving sight, just a quik slit, and no more hurt, well I don't hafto think like that anymore, I have her
Then be a man and tell her no more touching private parts, hers or yours. Honor her if she's so special to you. Stop treating her like the slut you claim her ex called her. Teach her to honor herself too. You could do her a real favor.

And it takes more than "a quik slit" -- so you don't even know how.

You certainly have an amazing fantasy life.

Go

Are you a troll?

Are you a troll?

What?

Then be a man and tell her no more touching private parts, hers or yours. Honor her if she's so special to you. Stop treating her like the slut you claim her ex called her. Teach her to honor herself too. You could do her a real favor.

And it takes more than "a quik slit" -- so you don't even know how.

You certainly have an amazing fantasy life.
Amazing fantasy life, are you making fun, I'm thinking of killing myself, a gun, a knife, but no, I'm not going to do it, not yet, I have the girl, she makes me happy, she gives me a goal, I'm going to better myself for her, not for me, I've done too many things for me, not anymore, I'm changing, if I'm going to die, I'm going to die a good person, not the person I see in the miror every morning, not the person who tells me to jump, a good person

Amazing fantasy life, are you makin fun, I'm thinkin of killing my self, a gun, a knife, but no, I'm not gonna do it, not yet, I have the girl, she makes me happy, she gives me a goal, I'm gonna better myself for her, not for me, I've done too many things for me, not anymore, I'm changing, if I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die a good person, not the person I see in the miror every morning, not the person who tells me to jump, a good person

I'm not kidding

I almost cryed after reading that

Are you a troll?
What?

Amazing fantasy life, are you makin fun, I'm thinkin of killing my self, a gun, a knife
Then you can't be taking law enforcement too seriously. SHE makes YOU happy? What about YOU making HER happy?? Stop thinking about yourself all the time, and put your efforts into making life good for her, and like I said, honor her by treating her like a precious treasure.

So what are you going to do to change, to be a good person?

im not kidding

i almost cryed after reading that
Sorry

Then you can't be taking law enforcement too seriously. SHE makes YOU happy? What about YOU making HER happy???? Stop thinking about yourself all the time, and put your efforts into making life good for her, and like I said, honor her by treating her like a precious treasure.

So what are you going to do to change, to be a good person?
If she's happy, I'm happy, she cries, I want to make her laugh, if she falls, I want to catch her, I do treat her like a treasure, and I'm trying to put her wants, and her needs before mine, I got to break a lot of bad habbits to do that

Wonder girl ,


Chill out

No reason to tell wondergirl to chill out. Her actions are justified. This kid is a mess.

A troll is somebody who makes rambunctious threads online because they crave attention.

Is that me?:(

A troll is somebody who makes rambunctious threads online because they crave attention.

I'm sorry if I apper that way
I don't try
And ill try not to

wonder girl ,


chill out
No, she can be angry, but what she is saying is hurtful, but its her opinion, and she's entitled to her opinion

I'm going to lie low,

I'm getting pounded on

im gonna lie low,

im getting pounded on
What do you mean

I was referring to him, not you. Seriously, you need to take necessary steps to improve your daily living. Have you looked into a therapist?

Every body's gining me a good reason to shut up

I was referring to him, not you. Seriously, you need to take necessary steps to improve your daily living. Have you looked into a therapist?

Why are you being a jurk?

I whouldnt be hrer if I wasn't trying to help

What kind of person do you take me 4?:confused:

I was referring to him, not you. Seriously, you need to take necessary steps to improve your daily living. Have you looked into a therapist?
No

Again, I'm not talking to you. I'm speaking to the original poster.

every body's gining me a good reason to shut up
Shut up? About what

Again, I'm not talking to you. I'm speaking to the original poster.

411 help


Who are you calling a troll?

Shut up? Bout what

Never mind amanwithnoname
It doesent matter

What's a troll

what's a troll

Can we just get back to the problem??

can we just get back to the problem???!???!?!?!????
Yeah

So what were we talking about?
:confused:

I got to go my labtops going to die

And its 12:32 AM where I live

i gotta go my labtops going to die

and its 12:32 AM where i live
Yeah, me too, I'm tired its 3:35am where I live, and I got a date today

The forums is not for you two to instant message each other. If you have a problem, discuss it.

You really do not deserve to be attacked like this over something like fingering a girl in a movie thearter you are not the first and will not be the last no one should judge you, because you didn't do anything wrong she made the move and you accepted her advances neither of you hurt anyone and you are not treating her like a slut by fingering her it sounds like you respect this girl very much. And that "friend" of hers deserved what he got! If my boyfriend did that for me I wouldn't stay mad for a second as long as he explained the reeason for hitting him.

You really do not deserve to be attacked like this over something like fingering a girl in a movie thearter you are not the first and will not be the last no one should judge you, because you didnt do anything wrong she made the move and you accepted her advances neither of you hurt anyone and you are not treating her like a slut by fingering her it sounds like you respect this girl very much. and that "friend" of hers deserved what he got! if my bf did that for me i wouldnt stay mad for a second as long as he explained the reeason for hitting him.
Thanks, thanks a ton, I really needed that, I'm just glad to hear someone say something that doesn't make me look like a badguy

I feel great, today me and her, we spent the entire day together, just me and her, we walked all around "town" we had cofee, we had lunch, and we had dinner together, I baught her jewlry( it was my idea) we held hands all day and just talked, about her, about me, about music, school, everything, I'm sooo In love with this girl, she makes me sooo damn happy, today was perfect, no screw ups, I'm sooo damn happy