I've been going out with her for about 3 years now. 9 days ago, she said we need time apart and that she needs to be with a man not a boy. I'm 24, she's 23. She's successful as a professional and has many goals in life, I'm going to school still with mainly her as my motivation and goal. She's always done everything for me like buy me boxers, make food, and clean my room. I didn't ask her but I accepted it and became use to it. Now she's saying I'm too dependent on her, which I am. She has always had a communication problem when it came to fights, keeping things to herself, but we loved each other very much. We would remind each other always every day. Recently we haven't seen each other that much because she's so busy doing her masters, full time work, and volunteering. I'm upset we only see each other 6-7 times a month and she's knows I am. I always call or text her to make sure she's OK, she does too but maybe I suffocated her. During our time together, I would sometimes joke around too much thinking it was OK but may have hurt her emotionally. And sometimes I tend to pressure her into doing things that she doesn't like. I know I don't deserve her and I realize my flaws now. I will change but I'm afraid she won't wait as she can get any guy out there. Our 3rd year anniversary is coming up in 3 days, then there is Christmas and her birthday right afterwards. I know about the NC rule but can I text her on what would have been our 3rd year just to say hi and have a nice day so she knows I haven't forgotten. I'm torn apart as I've never experienced such excruciating pain before. I truly truly love her. What I've typed here so far may make me appear like I don't but there's a lot more I haven't typed out. She said she still loves me and won't see anyone else but says we need a break between us. What do I do?

Oh, something really important I forgot to mention. We work together once every week so I can't do the NC rule. Only thing I can do is not talk about the relationship and pressuring her, but talk to her like a friend and about work. Can I talk to her family or friends about this? Or is that crossing the line...

You know what? Just forget about it. I understand you think she did everything for you and you don't deserve her, but I don't believe in breaks. You obviously made a lot of mistakes but who doesn't. If she can't accept you as you are she's not worth it. Try to talk to each other more on how to change and work things out and if it doesn't, just break up. There's no such thing as a "break," a "break" is only a break if you break up and get back together.

You might think I'm harsh and sarcastic but I've been recovering from a terrible break up for about 6 months. It began as a "break." For about 6 months I couldn't do anything, even getting out of bed to do laundry was torture. But recently I suddenly realized it's just not worth it. I'm a capable intelligent compassionate person but I kept beating myself that I was the reason she wanted to break up, because I did make a lot of mistakes, but you know what? In the end, it's just that she didn't care as much as you did. Maybe it's because she did, but you made her change? There no such thing as that - did you hit her or abuse her? All couples have fights. You hold on to the good memories, work through the bad times, and make more good memories. If she doesn't want to work it through just means you cared a lot more than she did.

I've suffered enough, I went to therapy, took medication, went on short trips, everything (we work together so even coming to work was torture for me.) But I finally realized today, it's not that you don't deserve her she doesn't deserve you! She'll never find anyone who cares for her as much as you do. But you will someone who'll care for you as much as you do. It's all in the mindset, buddy. I'm sorry for your excruciating pain, I almost killed myself multiple times. But it's just not worth it. And I think the reason my pain went so long is because I dealt with it in the wrong way from the beginning.

Don't even take it as a break. Just assumed you broke up and walk away with you head high. If she comes running back, that'll mean she cares too. If she doesn't, she's just not that worth it. Please do take me seriously.

1. It is over, so accept that. Maybe not for good, but for your sanity, it is over!

2. Build a life around yourself that shows you can be you without depending on anyone else. Calling her, texting her and all that stuff will only push her farther away and will strengthen her reason for breaking up with you.

3. There is no point in blaming anyone for this 'break.' It is what it is. No one is better than the other ,so don't think of it like that. People break up all of the time, and it hurts to be the one dumped. But, it isn't the right thing to do to blame the person who dumped you. That will get you nowhere.

4. Time to man up and put your grown up pants on now. You have a lot to live for, her not included. Live for yourself now and start to put your life back together. Whatever happens will happen. She knows you haven't forgot about your anniversary, so no need to say anything. This is hard, I know, but don't let this detour you from achieving the things you need to achieve. If she wants a break, give it to her!!

Everything will be all right, trust me. You are not alone, and you will never be alone! GIVE HER WHAT SHE WANTED NOW!! No more contact, period! Good luck.

She wants time, and space, so give it to her, and do as she is doing. Get involved with building a life that you enjoy with out her, as you need to motivate yourself, and buy your own underwear, or whatever.

Sorry, but its time to stand on your own, and be responsible for your own life, and happiness.

You do sound to needy of her, and that's not good, nor attractive. That can change, if you get focused, and get busy.

Do not beat yourself too hard. I understand your pain but by taking the right steps now time will help you heal.

Do not put all the blame on yourself because it takes 2 people for a relationship to work and to be honest it sounds to me as if you had created a whole life around her and that you would do anything for her and to make this work. Some will say that it is not healthy and I agree but at the same time shows how much you loved and cared for her. You did nothing wrong. In my case she was the one that was extremely dependent on me and who planned her whole life around mine. But then again she was the one that cheated on me and ran off with someone else. So you see it doesn't always work the way it should. Things might have turned the same even if you had acted differently. The important thing now is to distance yourself from her to avoid greater dissapointments. Its now time to put YOURSELF first, learn from the past and come out stronger.

She told me the only 2 things I could do that would make her consider breaking up would be if I ever hit her or cheated on her. Of course I've never and would never do that, but perhaps I was a bit naïve and actually believed it. We have some mutual friends and since we work together, NC is going to be tough. Can't I let her know how I feel and still not pressure her somehow? I don't even know why I'm still asking when I know what answer I'm going to get from everyone. She seems so much happier now, almost hard to believe. So hard to concentrate on myself when I'm suffering so much inside. So sick of fake smiling to the world...

Read the stickies for this forum, and get some insight into how to move on.

Don't worry about her happiness, just make sure you are. Tough I know, been there done that a few times. It will get better, and you'll learn to never build your life around someone else.

Hi I have a question for the women. Girlfriend initiated the break 9 days ago saying she needs a break between us. She also said she understands if you don't want to be friends... Our 3rd year anniversary is coming up in 3 days. If this was you, would you want the boyfriend to still text you on that day? Or would that be putting pressure on you and push you further away? No I love you, I miss you or please give this another chance. Just a text asking how she is. This is what I was planning to text:

Hello (name), how have you been? I hope your not too stressed out from school and work, remember to take it easy on yourself. I know your strong, but everyone needs a break. I sincerely wish you have a wonderful day.
Your best friend always,
(Thatguy2)

I might be overdoing the best friend thing, because I did give her a promise ring (which she doesn't wear anymore) as a promise to be best friends till we were ready to move up with the relationship. We work together so NC doesn't work. She didn't eat the lunch I made her, she avoided eye contact, flirts with the guys, she spoke with other co-workers in front of me how she has so many plans and can't wait, and she took off the promise ring last time we worked together. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Oh and her birthday is like 20 days after Christmas, what do I do for those days during this time? We loved each other very much.

Oh and for anyone that says NC, does that ever work for getting back together? I thought it was just a method to help you recover after a break up when you know it's over. If I'm going to go NC for a year just to break up in the end, why not just get it over with now by asking her what's going on instead of moping around forever with that false sense of hope?:confused:

I personaly think playing games, such as going NC in the hope she will miss you, is not going to help. If I where her it would make me think you where being childish (unless it is helping you to get over her).
I think you should text her on your anniversary, but don't over do it. I would maybe simplify the text you have written, the overall message is good but its abit long-winded for a text.
As to her flirting with other guys, don't worry too much, it is likely she is just attempting to get used to being single and being "allowed" (I know that sounds bad, I can't think of a better way to phrase it) to flirt.
When you are around her at work try not to be clingy, mope around, act jelouse etc just be as normal and upbeat as possible to show her that you are handling this in a mature way.
Hope any of this helps..
Xx

Thanks Miss-JS, what you said was exactly what I was afraid of. I don't want her to think I'm playing games by going NC, I'm only doing that because I respect her decision and if I didn't apparently it will only push her further away. I think if 2 couples love each other, they should be able to talk it through. They should go through the good times and the bad times together. I want her to know this, I think I'll have a little chat with her the next time we work together... I mean guy advice is appreciated, but I think girls know girls best.

Don't be too available though, I would send the message but stop making her lunch and apparently staring at her.. She needs to know that you are capable of being alone if that is the eventuality.

Being friends is great if you can do it after a break up. But you can't run into that. You both need space to re-evaluate who you are.

You said you loveD each other very much, as in past tense so maybe that's what it needs to be

Just make sure your respecting yourself and not being a doormat.

I am a guy, and I can tell you how a man acts when he gets dumped, and keep his dignity, and self respect.

First NC is to heal, so you can make some good decisions for yourself, based on fact, and not just feelings.


False hope is the nonsense you fill your head with , that prolongs the agony, drama, confusion and pain of being dumped.

As to your situation, No Contact will work, and will let you keep your dignity and self respect, even if you work together.

Keep it all business, and leave her alone, and if you have to see her, just be brief, polite and never get into any long conversations about your past. Just go about your job and leave hers alone. That simple. If she is ignoring you that should be easy.

Your main problem is you have not accepted the facts in front of your face, and think there is a chance she will get back together with you.

She won't, so accept she ain't coming back, and leave her alone, and move on with your own life.

You'll be okay in time, so just stick with it.

ThatGuy2;1420634 I don't want her to think I'm playing games by going NC,
NC is not a game and from what you have written she doesn't want anything to do with a relationship with you any way.

I'm only doing that because I respect her decision and if I didn't apparently it will only push her further away.
Thats already happened hasn't it, I think you have a big case of false hope, fed by denial that she is thru with you as a romantic interest. Better handle your rejection a lot better.

I think if 2 couples love each other, they should be able to talk it through.
She obviously doesn't want to do that so leave her alone and do as you have said, respect her decision.

They should go through the good times and the bad times together.
Sounds good on paper, but her actions say, forget that!

I want her to know this, I think I'll have a little chat with her the next time we work together
Don't bother, as you may piss her off, and make things worse, so leave her alone, and focus on you, and your own life, and keep your dignity ,and self respect intact.

I mean guy advice is appreciated, but I think girls know girls best.
If you don't know what to do then listen to any one who does, be they man, or woman.

I don't get it.Why would you send her a text on the 3rd year anniversery.You guys didn't make it to 3rd year so there is no anniversary.Sound harsh but that's the truth.From the sound of things she wouldn't care anyway even if you did send her a text or if you didn't.As for her flirting she is single now and can do anything she wants .
You really need to move on and leave her alone.If she wants to comeback to you she will but that's her decision.You can't make her.By acting all needy and depressed you are just driving her away and making your life misserable.

Hi, I have had the similar situation with you. Well, I'm a girl and 3rd years anniversary between me and my boyfriend is coming up on 13, Dec.

But we have argued each other recently and I totally lost a confidence to be loved by him..
I still love him but I can't see whether he still loves me or not..
We are an international couple and he is in his country for holidays. I tried to make up with him but we stay separately now and can't see how his life is going on..
I think he feels same as your girlfriend that he wants a break between us..
But how I could have a patient for it. I really love him so much..
I don't know what boys' want girls to do such a situation..

Well, sory for this answer.. I'm not answering what you want to know but I could see your feeling very much..

So, today is suppose to be the 3rd year anniversary. She texted me last night saying:

Hey! Sorry I got your message last night but I didn't have time to reply you! Anyway, I don't think we need to have the heart to heart chat... We are history... And I moved on. (over a 3 year relationship in 2 weeks?? ) I am more than happy to stay friends but if you don't want to I will understand too! As for the bank and phone stuff... I am dealing with it right now and I will sort it out with you next week...

And so that's it. What a crappy crappy break up this was. Is this considered to be a clean break? I still have so many questions unanswered. I've dreamt about her every single night that we were back together, only to wake up heart broken again and again and again. How is she so strong? Why am I so weak? I think I'll bag up all the memories she's left in my room (there's so much) and return it to her tomorrow when we work together. God knows I don't have the strength or courage to throw them away... why so pathetic...

You're not weak... you are just a man who is still in love with the girl that dumped him.

But, you're going to have to be strong. You're going to have to recognize that she is gone. She doesn't feel that way for you anymore. Yes, she probably has wonderful feelings about your history because you can't be in a relationship for almost 3 years and not have a wonderful friendship. She will miss that, but she has made it clear that she is no longer interested in you romantically.

You need to take that as a "time to let go." Letting go is hard, and it will hurt for a while. You're going to keep dreaming of her and still wake up reaching for her. But, hon, this too shall pass.

We've all been where you are, and we are telling you that you will make it, you will get through, and you'll learn something about who you are in the process. Be the man that learns from relationships - that takes with him the good things, forgetting the bad, and remembers your friendship, not your ending.

Bag up your physical reminders of her and your time together, but do as I did, keep them in the back of a closet. My fiancé left me at the altar - talk about rough! I kept our memories in my closet, and would take them out every once in a while and remember.

The time came when I simply needed to carry the memories in my heart - and THEN I got rid of the box. It was the final healing, if you will.

I wish you the best. DOn't be afraid to cry and mope around for a little bit, it's hard. But, at the same time, don't become a recluse. Start working out, lifting weights, riding your bike, running, kick-boxing, whatever you need to do for YOU to start feeling physically better... emotions will soon follow.

Keep your chin up.

Its obvious this break up hasn't paralyzed her, as it has you. Give yourself time to deal with this emotionally, and leave her alone, and read the stickies at the beginning of this forum.

I'm always going to love her, but I'm doing everything I can to not be IN love with her anymore. I have been going out, working out everyday, going out to events (even if we were both invited, man it sucks), working on projects for school (so hard to concentrate on anything), volunteering, pretty much everything I can to get her out of my mind. As for bagging the memories, maybe I'll just bag all her belongings, give it back to her tomorrow, and keep another bag for mementos in the closet. It's just tough because she bought so much for me like my clothes, jackets, desk, drawers, my watch, 1000's of pictures from trips and stuff, and even my boxers! Maybe this was a failing relationship from the start since I let her become like my mother. Thanks for the comments HistorianChick. Oh and you I did read the stickes, very helpful stuff. Just seems impossible right now. Thanks for the comments Talaniman.

You can do it. :) We're all here for you - having been there before and survived. :)

Ya so this new guy that started work a month ago kept on flirting and asking out my ex even when he knew we were going out. She told me about it and how irritating he was, and I really felt like a grew in the relationship. I completely trusted and respected her and told her that I believed her and thanked her for telling me. After she initiated the break she apparently spent a lot more time with him and on the phone as well (irritating eh?). And after she officially broke up with me 2 hours and 18 minutes before the start of what would have been our 3rd year anniversary, I decided to talk to her one last time hoping to get some closure. I spent what would have been our anniversary day working an extra shift while being depressed and hating myself for letting this happen (damn that was a long day). Next day when we worked together I had the heart to heart chat with her for about an hour. She says she only loves me as a friend and likes the way things are right now. Not the closure I wanted but nothing I can do. I later found out she stayed over night with that new guy who kept flirting with her on what would have been our 3rd anniversary while I was hating myself thinking back to what I could have done to save the relationship. He drove her to work that morning. She kept referring him to as "a friend" so I had no idea. But I found out from other co-workers afterwards. Something inside me snapped and I calmly confronted her. She says they're just really good friends. After all she has gotten to know him for 3 weeks already. I know I have no proof they slept together, but I really don't think that matters anymore. Just thought I would conclude this little love story. Thanks for your comments.

Ya so this new guy that started work a month ago kept on flirting and asking out my ex even when he knew we were going out. She told me about it and how irritating he was, and I really felt like a grew in the relationship. I completely trusted and respected her and told her that I believed her and thanked her for telling me. After she initiated the break she apparently spent a lot more time with him and on the phone as well (irritating eh?). And after she officially broke up with me 2 hours and 18 minutes before the start of what would have been our 3rd year anniversary, I decided to talk to her one last time hoping to get some closure. I spent what would have been our anniversary day working an extra shift while being depressed and hating myself for letting this happen (damn that was a long day). Next day when we worked together I had the heart to heart chat with her for about an hour. She says she only loves me as a friend and likes the way things are right now. Not the closure I wanted but nothing I can do. I later found out she stayed over night with that new guy who kept flirting with her on what would have been our 3rd anniversary while I was hating myself thinking back to what I could have done to save the relationship. He drove her to work that morning. She kept referring him to as "a friend" so I had no idea. But I found out from other co-workers afterwards. Something inside me snapped and I calmly confronted her. She says they're just really good friends. After all she has gotten to know him for 3 weeks already. I know I have no proof they slept together, but I really don't think that matters anymore. Just thought I would conclude this little love story. Thanks for your comments.

Well, you got your closure, even though it wasn't what you wanted to hear (clearly). Things aren't always as they seem. I am sorry you had to go through this, but we have all been there. Now, it is truly time to accept this and move on. You will be much happier without her, in time, as long as you can build a life around yourself that makes you happy. Good luck! Keep us informed on your progress.

There was nothing you could do, her mind was made up!

Heyy,
Are yo all right..
IT was very similar situation as me so, I just felt pain when I read it..
I don't know what your girlfriend thinks but if she was me, I guess I wanted to be alone and spend time with my friends. If I was her, it's impossible to crush on another boy or make another boyfriend because 3 years that I spent with my boyfriend were very meaningful for me..

Take care..

Ya I thought she wanted to be alone too to think and do her own thing, but apparently she wants to be alone with this guy and spend time with him instead. She was so busy these past months to spend time with me. Suddenly she has all the time in the world for this guy. And I'm not just assuming they're spending time together, she makes these plans with him and flirts over the phone right beside me during work. They have the next 3 months planned out already and I hear every juicy detail standing right beside her. Seriously? Come on. On the other hand, my 2 doctor friends said that I can get a note from them for Adjustment Disorder. Now I have more time for studying and finishing projects (so sad this is the only positive thing I can think of that I got out of this ordeal). Time heals everything right? This will be one hell of a time.

I'm a woman and I agree with Talanima! I wouldn't know what else to call it but a clean breakup . I'm sorry you are so hurt.

I think you have been doing well considering the situation, the lack of closure must be really hard on you not to mention hearing she has already monved on.
Is it possible for you to work anywhere other than next to her at work? It doesn't sound as though she is being very sensitive!
You are doing the right thing in giving back her stuff, although don't bother giving back all of the gifts she brought for you (such as clothes etc) unless it upsets you to still have them.
Try not to run yourself down too much, spend time doing things you enjoy and with (other) people that you enjoy spending time with.
Well done so far :)

I know its hard right now, but it will only get better with time.If you really have to talk to her at work, keep it short and professional

Ya I didn't think it would be as bad today but it didn't get any better. I spent the morning working then the rest of the day with my friends. All I could think about was what the ex and this new guy could be doing together right now. I know these are normal thoughts, just it's still so unbelievably hard right now. And I know they're doing stuff together right now because she made those plans on the phone yesterday right beside me... I can stop working that shift with her, but I can't let go for some reason. I know I need to but I can't yet. And I know it's only going to get worst if I keep it up since that new guy just took on a shift on that same day with the ex and I every week. What a coincidence... A part of me just wants to let the whole world know what she did to me, yet at the same time I know I shouldn't sink to that level and I'll probably regret it later.

ThatGuy, I am assuming your ex is dating another guy now? I am sorry to hear that, and I know how you feel. It hurts man, but don't let your mind make it any worse than it already is, believe me. The best revenge is to move on and be happier and healthier without her in your life. You will eventually do this, and once you have, you will NEVER want to look back. For right now though, I know it is hard. Hard pill to swallow man, but it will get better.

No they are not dating, they are "just really good friends". They talk on the phone and spend time with each other all the time. She even spent the night at his place 12 hours after the breakup on what should have been our 3rd year anniversary. She didn't have time for me back then, but now she has all the time in the world for this new best friend of 3 weeks. I'm probably just thinking too much right?. Can't time pass by any faster?

So it's been 21 days since she initiated a break and 11 days since she officially broke up with me. She texted me and said she would contact me last week to straighten out the bank account and phone stuff, but she never did. Christmas is coming up and her birthday is as well. I wanted to send her this text right now:
"I know your stressed and confused right now. Please take time to relax, think, and do your own thing. Just know you can always call me for anything, anytime."
After that I probably won't contact her for Christmas or her birthday. I obviously still love her, and I don't think that will change. I'm trying to love her and accept reality so I can move on without the bitterness. It's just so freaking hard. Should I send this text? You can check out my other post if you need more info on our background. Thanks.:o

No!

Dont be that guy.. Thatguy ;)

All that text will say is.. Hunny bunny I know you left me but hey I'm OK with it and if you want to treat me like crap go crazy.. umm yeah ill always be here waiting for you.. and well because I don't think I can find anyone else. And err yeah I'm here and I am your puppy!
BAH!

Come on man the 21 day mark is the worst! That's when you start talking to yourself going ohh yeah just one little text.

But think about it.. one text turns into 20

Turns into you thinking about getting back with her leads to FALSE HOPE
Then bam! Your back to day 1 again..

No no no..

Stay the course keep no contact.. this time frame is for you and only you!
For you to heal and get better.

It seems like a long road and even more so on the holidays trust me I know

But contacting her will only make you feel upset angry and unloved

Don't be weak :)

But she's always been so good to me, it was a mutual thing which is what made this break up such a shock. It came out of no where. I understand she needs time to think and do her own thing, but if I keep this NC thing going, won't that just make her think I've moved on or I don't care? I really thought I was getting better, but now I keep questioning myself. Will giving her and her family a Christmas card really be that bad? Her family and I were pretty close. And is a birthday card really that bad? Just to say happy birthday to show that I care.:confused:

When you act out of confusion, you generally get even more confused.

Don't break NO Contact, and don't think leaving the door open means a darn thing at this point.

While I understand the emotion, and shock, hurt,and the fear, the best thing is to do NOTHING at all. I say this for you, as unless you cope with those intense feelings in a positive mature way, you will never heal, and be able to make reasonable decisions for yourself, based on facts and not just emotions (shock, hurt, and the fear).

So no, no texts, no cards. Your not ready for either, any way, and will be worse off for it.

And is a birthday card really that bad? Just to say happy birthday to show that I care.:confused:
And if she doesn't respond they way that shows she cares, or not at all, are you okay with that??????

Your threads were merged so the whole story can be told. It also stop confusion.


but I can't let go for some reason. I know I need to but I can't yet. And I know it's only going to get worst if I keep it up since that new guy just took on a shift on that same day with the ex and I every week. What a coincidence... A part of me just wants to let the whole world know what she did to me, yet at the same time I know I shouldn't sink to that level and I'll probably regret it later.
You wrote this, so how is this break up mutual??
She kicked you to the curb to clear the way for another, and you want to keep your best friend, and show her you care??

I don't think so. Bow out of her life gracefully. Keep the NO CONTACT!

Honestly, even if she didn't respond in a way that shows she cares or didn't respond at all, I think I would be OK with it. She spent the night with that guy on our 3rd year anniversary and that gave me the strength to bag up the memories in my room, but for some reason I couldn't hate her for it. Even if she's with someone else, even if she hates me, I can't seem to stop loving her. I still want the very best for her. Am I just confused?:confused:

You will never stop loving her as a person, I doubt, however you contacting her or giving her warm well wishes serves NO PURPOSE at all for your benefit. Love yourself, and worry about yourself. It is good you want her to be happy, so leave her alone and focus on your own happiness. She isn't your problem anymore, you are priority number one.

So my ex who broke up with me 13 days ago just sent me a text: "Merry Christmas!!"
I wasn't going to send her a text because everyone here told me not to, but I felt rude to not respond to that so I replied: "I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas:)"
Did I just screw up? I obviously still love her immensely and honestly, this was just a friendly text. Not trying to give myself false hope or anything. Does this mean I should also send her a birthday text, card, or gift? It's coming up in 20 days. Should I not stay civil? Should I not stay friendly? Should I not stay sane?

There is nothing wrong with being civil, but it only having been 13 days, you need to be careful. You might not feel like you are giving yourself false hope right now, but over the next few weeks or so, those feelings may set in. if you can be civil and not give yourself false hope, then go with it, but depending on how it ended, you may need time to heal first. To be honest, the fact that you had to come here to ask the question (which is a very normal thing to do), just goes to show, that still having contact with her, affects you. I would give it some time and not bother writing the happy birthday message... if she wanted that, she shouldn't have ended the relationship. I would go no contact and give yourself some time to heal.

The advice is leave the exes alone, and that's for the best, as it does make you think of them ,and any sign of caring gets the mind racing with false hope, or confusion.

If done in the spirit of the holiday, or event, and not to reach out, and seek contact, then nothing wrong with being courteous. Everyone has to judge where they are at honestly, and do whats best for them.

Advice is only food for thought, not a rule.

Imagine your feelings had she not wished you happy holiday, or had not responded to your greeting.

Still best advice, don't read the ex's texts, just delete, being civil or polite can lead to months of hope for something that is just not there.

It may have been a personal text, or as I did, send a Merry Christmas to everone on my phone list, they may have not even thought about it going to you.

Or worst, doing it, to mess with you

Tal is right - I see no hidden message here. She still cares about you even if she knows the relationship is not what she wants, and wanted to be civil. And you replied in a civil manner.

I WOULD, in this case, send her a similarly brief text message on her birthday. If it was further away in time I wouldn't advise yet.

Do not buy her a gift - she's not your girlfriend.

It was probably a mass text sent to everyone in your phone. Why are you so concerned about it? You are reading way to far between the lines, relationships end for all sorts of reasons, it means they weren't working out for one person or the other. Very rarely do they get back together and even less cases do they stay together. Whenever your try to pick up the pieces of a relationship its like trying to glue a broken mirror back together, you can still see all of the broken pieces and it will NEVER be the same again.

If you guys decided to remain friends then don't think too deeply about it, they're being friendly.

And as far as doing ALL that... ummm... idk, depends on how cool you guys are. However, if it hurts too much try to avoid it... distance yourself from them until you can text them without feeling like you want them back.

Girls LOVE nice guys even though you may be ex's you should still talk to her and Definitely be friendly!

girls LOVE nice guys even though you may be ex's you should still talk to her and DEFINATELY be friendly!!
Why can't he heal first and be friends maybe later? What's the rush to be in the friendzone, knowing good, and well, his feelings are hurt? That's not nice.

I sugest to just act friendly and maybe shell like u back in the time

But I am a nice guy, I'm not just acting friendly lol. I actually didn't think too much of the text, just kind of surprised me as she sent it at 2:13 am. I did, however, have dreams of getting back together that night... Guess I did over think a bit after all. I think I will send her a birthday text. I was going to give her a gift through a friend anonymously, but what do I have to gain from that? She'll find out it was from me and instantly fall back in love with me? That would be awesome... :D

Look, your first major problem is this girl became your mom... she did everything for you and became dependent of her. She is gone now... and if you truly love her it is totally understandable you wish her the best BUT its time to use this as motivation. Pick yourself back up... and get out there. LEarn from the mistakes and be a MAN and stop depending on women to take the roll of your mother. You'll be fine... and December is the worst month to break up (along with February) because is usually cool and you've lost your cuddle buddy and no cute gifts.

The only thing you could do right now is forget about her and find yourself. It seems like you've lost yourself and you lost who you used to be. You have to be a Man. Find a way to be happy and care for yourself before others. Think! When you first met, were you that same man you are today? Were you even a man at that time? If not then it's time to become one. Get over her. You need balance in your life. She can't be the only meaning of your life. You have friends, work, hobbies and your own life. Go be happy with yourself before you're happy with someone else. By reading what you wrote, this could be the reason she left you. Because you became needy, a little child, and someone who you weren't from the start. And if she really did love you, maybe one day if you two met again and she will see how you changed and maybe start to fall for you again. But never do HOPE for that. Do it for yourself! Don't worry bro. read all these post by people who's going through the same thing as you. You are not alone my friend. Be strong! ALOHA

But I am a nice guy, I'm not just acting friendly lol. I actually didn't think too much of the text, just kind of surprised me as she sent it at 2:13 am. I did, however, have dreams of getting back together that night.... Guess I did over think a bit after all. I think I will send her a birthday text. I was going to give her a gift through a friend anonymously, but what do I have to gain from that? She'll find out it was from me and instantly fall back in love with me? That would be awesome...:D

Don't count on it, but I guess stranger things have happened. Just do your best to protect yourself! Good luck.

So my ex, who initiated a break 21 days ago then broke it off 2 weeks afterwards, became really religious all of a sudden. She goes to church all the time, quotes all these bible verses, and always mentions God if she texts me. She sent me a text for new years and said:
"Happy new year !! Another year of happiness and good health! God bless!"
She has only sent me 2 texts, one for Christmas and now one for new years. I texted her back and said:
"Happy new year ex's_name. May this year bring you good fortune to your health and well being."'
Too much? I'm being civil just like during Christmas time, not trying to give myself false hope or anything. Just this whole religious thing kind of got me thinking about stuff again. Is it a cult or something? What gives? I'll probably send her a happy birthday text since it's coming up in 14 days. If only I could hate her for what she did, it would make things so much easier...

Sometimes you just can't compete with the Big Guy! Seriously, be civil and kind, but if she is serious about this change, then she's made a wise choice. Very seldom does a longterm relationship work out between someone who has a deep commitment to being a Christian and one who has no idea what's going on or what being a true Christian is all about.

Maybe she finds a place of refuge within her beliefs. There is no need to worry about as long as it is not too excessive. There is nothing wrong at all to believe in God and to think of a supreme being that handles all. It can actually act like a positive aspect in your relationship (even if normal friends or lovers).

My girlfriend (or ex, don`t know yet) is also very religious, sometimes it brought me to the edge too, but I tried to be calm and respect her decision. Think you should do the same.

Maybe, you shouldn't send her anymore texts messages and move on unless the two of you decided to be friends.

It's better that she turned to a religion than doing drugs or anything illegal. Don't you think?

I don't know. She spent the night with some guy she had known for 3 weeks on what should have been our 3rd year anniversary just 12 hours after she officially broke up with me over a text message. If she's turned to God then so be it. But I hope she's not just out there looking for a rebound to replace me. We may not be together anymore but I still love her dearly and care about her. Which makes it so much harder to stay as friends. I'm not hanging out with her or anything as I am healing from the breakup. But I do respond to her annual event text messages. Which is why I'll probably send her a Birthday text as well.

You need to focus on your life instead of hers. If she decides to see or sleep with someone it's her decision to make. If she starts a new relationship with someone, whether it' a rebound or not, again that's her decision.

She is an adult and therefore can do what she wants and capable of making her own choices. And if she makes mistakes along the way then again it her mistakes to make. When all have choices and have to live with the choices we make.

Even though you care for her, it's best you stay out of her business.

Even though you care for her, it's best you stay out of her business.

I have to agree.

So we still have a joint bank account right now and we are still on a couples mobile plan that I'm paying for. After the text breakup, she said she would contact me the next week to deal with this. She has not yet contacted me and it's been about 2 and a half weeks? Should I call her to deal with this or continue to wait for her to call? I would really like to call her up now and tell her how much she has hurt me. Is that not a good idea? I just found out today she is officially seeing the other guy that tried and succeeded to break us up and she still doesn't have the courage to tell me yet. I had to find out from someone else, man that hurt. So what should I do at this point? We need to talk eventually on how to split the money up so do I keep waiting? Can I tell her how much she has hurt me? That would feel good.

That's enough! Your crying over a female that has left you for someone else, and not handled your business??

That's digusting!!

Talaniman rule- Handle the business first, and then cry in the corner

It will not do any good talking to her about your feelings. In fact, it will make you feel worse in the end. She made her choice, now is the perfect time to move on. There are many girls out there that are worth so much more of your time, effort, and love. You don't need to contact her anymore, if you need to handle your affairs then so be it, get it out of the way as soon as possible so you can move forward from all of this. Remember, she's moved on. Whatever she does with her life is her problem and the least you know about her the better. Now, it's your turn to do the same and let yourself heal so you can enjoy all that life has in store for you.

Good luck mate,

Expat

So what does that mean? Should I contact her asap and talk about how to deal with our bank and phone accounts but avoid telling her how I feel? I feel like the bonds are not cut yet. I kind of forgot about our accounts because I've been busy doing my own thing trying to get her out of my mind these couple of weeks, but I just remembered now that we still have all these ties. Do I wait for her to initiate contact for our financial stuff, or do I contact her now and cut these last bonds?

Take care of the financial connections you have with her, then be done talking to her.

I get my money, and my phone out of her name and then I disappear from her life. You don't need her approval, or opinion, just do it!!

She doesn't care about your feelings, so what's the problem with handling your business?

Get your priorities straight my friend, or pay the consequences of being STUCK!!

Ring her up and ask her to meet you on her own at your bank so you can close this account and sort out where the money in it is going. Sort out the phone contract too, its not fair for you to be paying her bills anymore (not that you should have been to start with! ). This should be your priority, it will get easier to get over her without these unnessisary ties... sort them out quickly and fairly! Good luck xx

Take your money out of the account, take your name off the list and leave. Call your cell phone provider and take her phone off the list! Eat whatever fees come along with this and pick your pride back up and walk away. Cut her out of your life!

So I was calling my cell phone company to cancel our couples plan and they told me I owe them over $300 for the month of Nov to mid Dec. I was like , that's triple the amount I usually pay each month for our plan. They directed me to the e-bill online to find out why I was over so much. Turns out the ex had spent over 35 hours on the phone with this "really good friend"(they are now officially seeing each other but she still hasn't told me, though I shouldn't be expecting her to tell me anyways) while we were together before the break and during the break.

I'm not trying to be petty or spiteful or anything because the money doesn't mean anything to me (right now anyways), I just feel like I should not have to pay money for her method of cheating on me while we were still together. I unintentionally found out about this, I wasn't trying to spy on her or anything. But I did notice that she would talk to this guy for hours, call me for 4 minutes, then call him again while we still together. F@$# that made me frustrated.

I don't think you necessarily need to have sex with someone else for it to be considered cheating. I consider this cheating, what do you guys think? Anyway, the real question now is:

Should I suck it up and be the bigger man by ignoring this fact and just pay for this bill and probably the next one too since it's already Jan?
OR
Should I tell her I will pay what I usually pay each month and make her pay for the extra cheating time she had used up on our bill? (Obviously with this answer I will acknowledge the fact that I knew they were in contact the whole time when we were together)

Any advice is appreciated.

Hello,

Reading all the pages of your story has made me really sad and almost caught tears thinking I have something similar after a long term relationship.

Related to the last post of yours, that is an ouch, she did this financial problem for you after all the time together? That is certainly something going on with her, and take my advice, if she still cared for you she would not have done this. She planned all this leaving and break thing from some time now since calling that guy.

Of course cheating does not involve sex, I too considered cheating on my girlfriend (at least I still hope she is my gf) if she talked a lot to a guy or hang out in town with him etc. (Mostly because I never knew what the 2 of them were doing).

You can either FIGHT BACK by telling her to pay and say about the other guy, or you can WITHDRAW with DIGNITY and pay but then never ever speak to her again and try yourself to enjoy life and forget about her, simply show her you TOO can be with other girl if you want.

The decision is up to you, but if I were having such problem, I would probably pay it, and never speak to her again, for the love that she once had for me and for all the happy memories together. Let her remember you like a nice, calm and polite guy which does not care for the financial part, but for the principles that stay at the basis of a relationship. I know you would buy the whole world for her if you can, and if she really loved you! That is what I would have done too in the good times together :(

Cheer up >.< That is how life is supposed to be and there is nothing we can do about it. It has positive and negative aspects.

Hope this helps!

Should I suck it up and be the bigger man by ignoring this fact and just pay for this bill and probably the next one too since it's already Jan?

HELL NO! You tell her about the unusually high phone bill and let it be known that you are aware of her cheating. Do NOT pay for her share of this bill. If you do then you may as well go out and buy them a big o' box of condoms while you are at it. There comes a point where it is OK to stop being nice. Do you really think she is concerned about your feelings or being nice to you? Be a man and stand up for yourself dammit!

Use the money in the bank account to pay the bill, and free up your own finances, if its still there. If her share is gone after that, oh well!

I'm just venting right now. I'm going to post a conversation that took place with my friend. Hopefully in a couple months, I'll look back on this and laugh.

Yeah '1', it just sucks because I was doing so much better. I tried to channel the calamitous feelings within into something more productive like working out or school work. Everything was going fine, but something always seems to find it's way to me and knocks me back down on my a$$. I'd be surprised if you didn't know yet though. After being "really good friends" with this 30 year old douche '2' for a couple of weeks, X has already moved in with him. He's even labeled as her spouse in the YMCA system. Hah wow? Are you serious? I know what she does now is absolutely none of my business and that I should only concentrate on myself. It is her decision alone and her path to take, but unfortunately, it still hurts me immensely. The disrespect, after 3 years, was unfathomable. The fact that up to this day she still lies to me and tries to hide the truth, is something I'm starting to get a grasp of. She is selfish and only thinking of herself, which I guess is human nature. My self deluded thoughts of her being the perfect women had cheated me into prolonging my love with the idea of her. I know she is no longer the woman I fell in love with, yet these lingering feelings refuse to subside. I only wish she could have told me the truth when I asked her to, but she had to conjure all this BS and placed the blame on me. God give me the strength to forgive her and myself for not letting go.

Hi ThatGuy 2,

I just read your post from the beginning to the end. I am sorry to hear how your ex treated you- you did not deserve that at all.

I think it is v clear that the person you loved and the person she is today is different- v different. Take that as your first step in moving forward.

Every time you miss her- tell yourself no- I must look at how she treated me at the end- all the lies, cheating and then trying to blame you for it!

Regarding bank accounts, phone bills- if I was you- I would just pay it off, close the account, remove your name,take what is left etc- Just go and do it- GO!! and before you know it- you will have sorted it all out by yourself and you will feel great and better for it.Once that is all done- you don't need to answer anything!

Read my post- I had to do alot- cancel the wedding, loose so much money, send a cargo back etc and I did it all by myself- glad I did it! And now I will free- still v sad and hurting, but feel a bit free- which helps a lot.Everytime I see flash backs of my ex- good times- I block it and remind myself of what he did- it helps a wee bit!

Ahh man, she is really taking the piss. I would never do something like that... she must have some inkling of what she is doing!?

My opinon, confront her about the phone bill and ask her to pay for her calls as this is unreasonable and unfair. Its up to you whether you mention the fact that this was going on when you where still together, I personally wouldn't bother, by the sounds of it she doesn't really care anyway and there is no point in causing an argument that may result in her refusing to pay the bill. If she has even the slightest bit of desency she will pay for it, I know you said its not about the money but in my opinon it's the principle... you where paying her phone bills but she has rawley taken the piss!

Let me know how things go...

Hey sorry guys, I guess I forgot to update as to what had happened. I actually took care of the bank and phone accounts 3 weeks ago. I sent her this email:

Hey X,

I called Telus again and apparently there was a bit of miscommunication with the teller and I. I transferred ownership instead and they waived off the $25 so now we both have our separate plans again. As for the $70 that you left on the account for cancellation, maybe you can just deduct that on the next check you give me for the phone bill. I need to tell you that you must contact them within 5 days and confirm this change of account. You may stay on the same plan you have now or you can amend it to something else, check with the teller.

They told me the balance for Nov-mid Dec was about $340. I was a bit shocked as that is 3 times more than what I usually pay for. They directed me to the e-bill and I completely went through the records entirely to see what the problem was. Everything was completely accurate and you can actually check the bill online as well. Just follow these instructions:
1.Type in web address: TELUS Mobility - slash mytelusmobility.com (http://www.mytelusmobility.com)
2.Login top left side- Username: -----Password: -----
3.Under my info, click on view e.bill on the left column
4.Under my info, click on view PDF bill on the left column
5.Under Bill date, you can choose the monthly records so click on December 16, 2008

Here you can see what incoming and outgoing calls you've made during that period and how much air time you've gone over. It seems you were over $208.95 in local air time with your phone calls, but I'm sure you can see that as I can. Please feel free to go over the receipts. The January bill should be coming out soon and I suspect it to be around the same amount if not more. Let me know if you come across any problems.

I will head down to TD fairly soon to withdraw the remaining amount and close up the account.
Thanks!
-ThatGuy2

Too much? Did I go overboard? I gave her subtle hints as to what I knew even though I know I have nothing to gain by doing so. Too late I guess, sent this 3 weeks ago. But you, things aren't too bad right now. All ties are cut, except that I still have her running shoes in my car... Forgot to return those.

I've evaluated all the malicious actions that the X has made up to this point and I keep thinking, what more can she possibly do that would cause me pain. Guess she could get married next month and invite me to the wedding. After all, she has known this guy for about 2 months now.

I don't think about her as much anymore and the dreams have stopped. I've come to accept who she is and am trying to accept what she has done. But do I need to forgive her to truly move on? How does one accomplish such a feat.

GREAT strides man! I am happy to see that you have finally reclaimed your life back from her! Keep it up!

Dude, I am proud of the efforts you have done in your behalf. I know it wasn't easy, but a sign your protecting your own interest, and putting yourself above her. Now that is a real healthy feat in itself. Bravo!


But do I need to forgive her to truly move on? How does one accomplish such a feat.

Stay on the path, and keep taking care of yourself, and time will accomplish that for you.

I have been reading the threads in your link and first of all my commiserations on what has been a tough time for you.
However, congratulations on your mail in regards to the phone, absolutely spot on, like one of my mails to a client sharp concise and to the point that's all that was needed the rest is up to her, and if she asks you anything about it just tell her all the information you require is in the mail please apply! In time you will forgive her because you know what you won't even think abut her, you will look on it as a life experience with no feeling of attachment or resentment and when you get to that stage you have truly moved on :)
I tell you this though and this is fact, she is not worth the effort and good will you have put in, any girl worth her salt would not have taken advantage of the phone plan or any other matter after the way she behaved, she should have had the decency to tell you to sort it out and that she is now paying her own way.
You are beginning to sort things out yourself now, keep with it and don't rebound you are young have loads of time, stick with it keep NC and you will be a different man in no time, strong, independent, more worldly wise and confident.

You half way there believe it or not, keep the NC faith :)