ttri
Dec 1, 2008, 04:06 PM
I lived with 2 other girls in an apt, and we had encountered many issues with our landlord. He was incredibly intimidating and once even came into our apt without notice. He did not repaint the apt for us when we moved in, so we had painted it ourselves. Some of the colours were quite bold - a pink kitchen! But many other rooms we just painted a different shade of the same colour, and we had every intention on painting the more 'controversial' rooms when we left. However, one day he came in with no notification, saw the colours and demanded that we repaint the entire apt with "3 coats of primer and 2 coats of semi-gloss white." We repainted the apt (with a little bit of bitterness at giving him a free paint-job) and left.
A month and a half later, we all received an "invoice" for "work that had to be done in the apt" after we had left - we had been extremely rushed, especially with trying to move AND paint - and had left behind 2 couches and maybe a bag or 2 of garbage. However, the 'invoice' was completely ridiculous. It stated that people had to: repaint edges and some window sills (because our paint job was not perfect), clean out the fridge and stovetop, remove the 2 couches, and take out "maggot-infested garbage". We were charged over-the-top prices, for instance, it took 3 men 2 hours to take out 2 couches, while it took 2 men 2 hours to clean out a fridge and stovetop. He also charged us for the trailer to bring the stuff away (apparently they needed several trips), not to mention the dumping fee, 'fuel charges, and of course, GST on sales. Did I mention that the landlord owns a construction company and all these things were from his own stock? And of course, each man was paid $60/hr for their work.
All-in-all, the invoice amounted to over $3200! The 'proof' were a couple of photos of some paint left on the ceiling edges, one truckload of garbage and a picture at an outdoor 'dumping site' with the two couches and 2 bags of garbage that had been slit open with maggots all over the front of the bags. This did not seem right, especially as we had not been throwing out food (we had not been cooking), and it was weird that the bags had been cut open.
At the time, I received some legal aid on this topic and was told that I could either settle with him, or wait for him to file a small claims against us. And since I did not want to play into his bullying tactics we decided to let him make the first move, especially as we felt we could make a good case in small claims. Today, exactly 6 months after moving out, one of my former roommates (who I should mention moved out halfway through our tenancy and had been told her name was off the lease) gets a call from a collections agency sent by our landlord. The thing is, the agency said they were calling about rent, they did not say damages, which I think is very odd. Also, I should mention that the new girl that moved in halfway did not end up signing the lease.
I am unsure of what to do at this point. Should I take this to small claims? Clearly the landlord wants to avoid small claims because his evidence does not provide substantial proof. We loved the apt and took good care of it, and I have pictures taken one week before we moved out and the place was spotless. I do not want to let his bullying win - we are all students and do not have the income to pay this ludacris invoice! I would love to get some advice on this. Thank you all in advance!
A month and a half later, we all received an "invoice" for "work that had to be done in the apt" after we had left - we had been extremely rushed, especially with trying to move AND paint - and had left behind 2 couches and maybe a bag or 2 of garbage. However, the 'invoice' was completely ridiculous. It stated that people had to: repaint edges and some window sills (because our paint job was not perfect), clean out the fridge and stovetop, remove the 2 couches, and take out "maggot-infested garbage". We were charged over-the-top prices, for instance, it took 3 men 2 hours to take out 2 couches, while it took 2 men 2 hours to clean out a fridge and stovetop. He also charged us for the trailer to bring the stuff away (apparently they needed several trips), not to mention the dumping fee, 'fuel charges, and of course, GST on sales. Did I mention that the landlord owns a construction company and all these things were from his own stock? And of course, each man was paid $60/hr for their work.
All-in-all, the invoice amounted to over $3200! The 'proof' were a couple of photos of some paint left on the ceiling edges, one truckload of garbage and a picture at an outdoor 'dumping site' with the two couches and 2 bags of garbage that had been slit open with maggots all over the front of the bags. This did not seem right, especially as we had not been throwing out food (we had not been cooking), and it was weird that the bags had been cut open.
At the time, I received some legal aid on this topic and was told that I could either settle with him, or wait for him to file a small claims against us. And since I did not want to play into his bullying tactics we decided to let him make the first move, especially as we felt we could make a good case in small claims. Today, exactly 6 months after moving out, one of my former roommates (who I should mention moved out halfway through our tenancy and had been told her name was off the lease) gets a call from a collections agency sent by our landlord. The thing is, the agency said they were calling about rent, they did not say damages, which I think is very odd. Also, I should mention that the new girl that moved in halfway did not end up signing the lease.
I am unsure of what to do at this point. Should I take this to small claims? Clearly the landlord wants to avoid small claims because his evidence does not provide substantial proof. We loved the apt and took good care of it, and I have pictures taken one week before we moved out and the place was spotless. I do not want to let his bullying win - we are all students and do not have the income to pay this ludacris invoice! I would love to get some advice on this. Thank you all in advance!