Let's just say my curiosity has gotten the better of me, in terms of whether some of these models really were just gifted genetically, or whether this is surgical enhancement and then airbrushing going on here.

Because I've never seen completely natural big boobs look that round, I'm guessing fake, but I'm curious what others think...

Where Professional Models Meet Model Photographers - ModelMayhem (http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=48acf4c847619&date=2008-08-21%2000:53:31&id=234614&pid=8074580&the_count=9)

I would say fake. Breasts that large just aren't that round naturally.

Let's just say my curiosity has gotten the better of me, in terms of whether some of these models really were just gifted genetically, or whether this is surgical enhancement and then airbrushing going on here.

Because I've never seen completely natural big boobs look that round, I'm guessing fake, but I'm curious what others think...

Where Professional Models Meet Model Photographers - ModelMayhem (http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=48acf4c847619&date=2008-08-21%2000:53:31&id=234614&pid=8074580&the_count=9)
Could be real. I've seen a lot of boobs in my 48 years, heh. And the way her back is arched, could make normal breasts appear this way. About the nipples, many women in this position, the nipples would be further out to the side... the breast would be sagging more towards each side. However, if very firm breasts, and nipples closer to center, they could appear this way. If they are fake, they are not overdone. Many fakes are so overly large that you can tell from a mile away that they are false... but not these.

Hello T:

Fake, fake, fake! Real boobs don't stand up when a girl is laying on her back.

excon

My vote, they are fake.
Not only are they unrealistically perfectly round, they don't fall naturally. Natural boobs would be falling out and to the side in that position.

Another thing, her areolas (around the nipple) are quite large. They look like they would have been stretched during the process.

As a Nurse and a cancer survivor with reconstructive implants myself, I can tell you without the shadow of a doubt that they are fake. Mine cost me a quarter of a million dollars (from diagnosis, through chemo and on to the final surgery) and mine don't look much different.

Fake - or is the term "enhanced"?

Fake.

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Reminds me of the old joke - "Are those boobs yours?"

"Sure are. I paid for them."

(Every now and then I feel the urge to be politically correct - then I rest for a while and it passes.)

The term is "Bolt-on's".

Hello again:

Go to the website, then to her profile, then to her friend tiana hunter.

On HER page she says she's "an all natural, professional model". My guess is that means HER boobs are real. They look it too.

excon

Her breasts look real. In her photo standing up her boobs drops. To me the only reason her boobs look the way it does is because of the way her body is arch. If you look at her profile photo it looks real.

I would say fake. Breasts that large just aren't that round naturally.


So, anyway, what's this men and boobs fixation? I think men look at boobs as sex organs to begin with.

And so - if I posted "are these testicles real," I'd get hate mail. Men who are sooooo sensitive about their (pardon the phrase) size think nothing of falling out of their chairs when a well endowed woman walks by. But say one word about size and inches or whatever and he hides in the bathroom for the rest of his life.

Women can't win - if their cups runnest over, some guy wants small boobs; if their cups do not runnest over, he's into bigger boobs.

And while I'm on a roll here, why do clothing manufacturers advertise using full breasted women but then their clothes are cut so narrow that you practically have to strap yourself down to wear them? And if your "top" is bigger than your "bottom," forget it.

And if we are going to talk about this in a clinical sense I think we should use the medical term, which is hooters. :)

Go to her other pictures, I still think they're fake.

So, anyway, what's this men and boobs fixation? I think men look at boobs as sex organs to begin with.

And so - if I posted "are these testicles real," I'd get hate mail. Men who are sooooo sensitive about their (pardon the phrase) size think nothing of falling out of their chairs when a well endowed woman walks by. But say one word about size and inches or whatever and he hides in the bathroom for the rest of his life.

Women can't win - if their cups runnest over, some guy wants small boobs; if their cups do not runnest over, he's into bigger boobs.

And while I'm on a roll here, why do clothing manufacturers advertise using full breasted women but then their clothes are cut so narrow that you practically have to strap yourself down to wear them? And if your "top" is bigger than your "bottom," forget it.

And if we are going to talk about this in a clinical sense I think we should use the medical term, which is hooters. :)


I agree Judy.

I'm a ::gulp:: 32F, it's impossible to find clothes, forget finding bras, I pay a small fortune for bolder holders.

I cannot find dresses, I have a hard time finding tops that fit, after all, I'm narrow with big boobs, so I either drown in my shirts or pop out of them.

The clothing manufacturers seem to have one standard and we must all conform to that standard if we want clothes that actually fit, or learn to sew.

Yup, no matter what size your hooters are, you're screwed. ;)

If they are fake, hypothetically speaking, it's possible some of the pictures were taken before she got the implants. Because I know that for this particular model, her profile pic was up before all the ones where her boobs look super-round were up... There is one in the new series where she's standing, the one where she's in front of a mirror.

And Judy, in case it's what you're getting at, I'm not a man, and part of the reason I'm curious is because I'm involved in the industry.

(I'll grant you they drop a little when she's standing, liz28, but not all fake boobs are hard like a rubber ball -some move more realistically than others... I still don't think I've ever seen anyone in-person with large natural boobs that maintained that much shape when she was standing)

If they are fake, hypothetically speaking, it's possible some of the pictures were taken before she got the implants. Because I know that for this particular model, her profile pic was up before all the ones where her boobs look super-round were up... There is one in the new series where she's standing, the one where she's in front of a mirror.

And Judy, in case it's what you're getting at, I'm not a man, and part of the reason I'm curious is because I'm involved in the industry.



It was a general question, not aimed at you. What industry? I did some modeling in the days BEFORE implants.

(I'll grant you they drop a little when she's standing, liz28, but not all fake boobs are hard like a rubber ball -some move more realistically than others... I still don't think I've ever seen anyone in-person with large natural boobs that maintained that much shape when she was standing)


I think a lot depends on where the implants are placed, under the muscle, over the muscle, as well as the skill of the surgeon which translates to dollars.

It was a general question, not aimed at you. What industry? I did some modeling in the days BEFORE implants.


Pictures, we want pictures! :)

Pictures, we want pictures! :)



Nothing that exciting, trust me. I did a campaign that ran in airline magazines - I believe United - for a number of years. I'll see what I can scare up - always amused my husband because I had very big hair and these spider eyelashes.

By the way, I can STILL put eyelashes on in a moving vehicle, so there.

So I've dated a woman who had very well done implants. You could not tell with her standing. You couldn't tell by feel. When she was on her back, there was more structure than you'd expect.

I also dated an all natural girl who was accused ALL THE TIME of having implants, usually from girls smaller than her.

As for your pics... first photo isn't a deal breaker for me at all. A woman can show that kind of form and structure on her back an be natural. Just ask my first big love. She could look JUST LIKE THAT on her back. Pics from the side can distort the "actual" view... it's a picture... it loses its 3rd dimension... its why some look "fatter" than they are in pics.. depth is distorted.

Second pic is what makes me wonder. A little bit more structure and form than I've experienced and seen. I dated one girl who looked a little like that... again, in college and NO surgery, but she had more form and structure than id seen in any other woman ever.

Id guess possibly not real based on pic 2.

And in this pic

Where Professional Models Meet Model Photographers - ModelMayhem (http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=8838519)

You can almost see a common undercut done with implants. It is a c shaped line on the underside of the areola. Clearest on her left side.

Alty - You took a really close look KP, I do see a faint line. ;)

I am more than willing to do my part. ;) and from this pic, I really would say it looks like surgery was done... that undercut is not hard to see most of the time if that's the approach used in surgery.

Yes and no the nipple looks real and you can't see any scars

"[QUOTE=JudyKayTee;1399503]So, anyway, what's this men and boobs fixation? I think men look at boobs as sex organs to begin with."


Eh... and your point is? :):):rolleyes: (kidding Judy)

"[QUOTE=JudyKayTee;1399503]So, anyway, what's this men and boobs fixation? I think men look at boobs as sex organs to begin with."


Eh....and your point is? :):):rolleyes: (kidding Judy)



As usual, I don't think I have one. Or I started with one and then forgot what it was. That's been happening a lot lately.

(I also think I see more "boobs" at the gym in one week than many men see in a lifetime and so - fake, fake, fake.)

(I also think I see more "boobs" at the gym in one week than many men see in a lifetime and so - fake, fake, fake.)

I got fake boobs, so I can detect them. LOL...

If you look VERY CLOSELY at the picture, the underarm to be exact, you can see a dark line. This dark line could very well be the surgical incision. There are at least 3 ways a doctor can make implant incisions... 1) around the areola so that it is virtually invisible; 2) under the arm; and 3) in the umbilicus (belly button), so scars are not always visible.

I got fake boobs, so I can detect them. LOL.....

If you look VERY CLOSELY at the picture, the underarm to be exact, you can see a dark line. This dark line could very well be the surgical incision. There are at least 3 ways a doctor can make implant incisions...1) around the areola so that it is virtually invisible; 2) under the arm; and 3) in the umbilicus (belly button), so scars are not always visible.



What? An incision in the belly button in order to place/insert/whatever it's called breast implants? And then the surgeon sort of reaches up and... BLECH!

Well, I guess I'm never getting breast implants! I've had enough of THAT reaching/inserting/removing to last for a very long time.

Yup, the naval, belly button, umbulicus. There is a small incision made in the belly button, at that point the surgeon inserts a hollow steel rod up to the breast tissue, the implant (unfilled saline) is then guided through the rod to the proper placement area. Once the implant is in place the "balloon" is then inflated and voilà no scars!!

Craziness. As a man, and from a man's "view" point, I never liked the visual or actual touch of breast implants, natural is so much better. Just knowing that they are not real is deflating (pun intended). I think that having it done for cosmetic reasons only just isn't sexy to me. And to go through all that you mentioned J, I don't think the sweat is worth the reward in my opinion.

That being said, having it done for health reasons is a different matter to me and is completely acceptable.

Has anyone else noticed that we're discussing "wimmin" and "boobs" and Excon is strangely silent - ?

Should we send out a search party?

Has anyone else noticed that we're discussing "wimmin" and "boobs" and excon is strangely silent - ?

Should we send out a search party?


Judy, I have him tied up in my shed. ;)

He's been very busy on his own thread... "Sobriety Checkpoints." His radar will pick this up shortly I am sure...

Stringer

Judy, I have him tied up in my shed. ;)

Another one?? Isn't that place getting crowded? :p

The Sheriff has keys... and ingenuity.

Guys, we are so hijacking this thread.

100 lashes for all of us. Line up, I'll dish out the punishment. :)

The clothing manufacturers seem to have one standard and we must all conform to that standard if we want clothes that actually fit, or learn to sew.

Yup, no matter what size your hooters are, you're screwed. ;)

Tell me about it!

I swear they cut them all the same shape no matter what the size as well. I had a real problem getting an evening dress to fit the other day- yep I resorted to kind of sewing myself in - that and a little less permanent breast enhancement. It was actually quiet fun being a larger on top ladie for five minutes!

I'm gutted the links broken I want to judge too! :P

Hehe. I guess one could argue that they might be real b\c of the arched back... making her boobs rounder, but I'm guessing fake. When you have large boobs I guess you can sort of claim that gravity works against you...

gravity works against you...

Gravity sucks. ;)

I'm less sure about the underarm... I think there are natural creases there that can be perceived as potential cuts... but that partial incision on the underside of the areola... that often makes me most suspicious, and I don't think its hard to see...

Now... does it mean anything to me? Not so much.

Like I said, I dated a woman with very well done modest implants... and for the most part they were soft, nicely formed, and hardly noticeable... to the touch they were lovely. In form, they were only "different" when she was on her back.

And if I had her on her back I likely didn't give a damn about angles and "acceptable" shape.

My booby-dar is suspicious of something not-so-natural going on. I also see the slight scar line that has been identified on the areola, which is confirming the idea. I do think the underarm image is from a natural crease.

Thus my conclusion: some of the boob is real, and some of it is not-so-real.

Everybody wins.

Anyway, she appears to be proud of them, and she earns points for position. That's all her. It's a flattering pose for any woman. I like the site.

This is fun. More games like this, please.

Should we post a thread about male models in the nude? We can guess if all their parts are real or enhanced. ;)

Bad Alty, stop it, back in the corner you go. :(

Should we post a thread about male models in the nude? We can guess if all their parts are real or enhanced. ;)

Bad Alty, stop it, back in the corner you go. :(



YES! And then we'll vote!

There you gooooo agaiiiiiiiin...

There ya gooooo agaiiiiiiiin.......

Stringer, it's tit for tat. Or in this case, tat for tit. :p Oops, was that out loud? :o

If you're thinking it... it comes out... hee hee

Are you thinking along the lines of

"Is this penis real, or is it enhanced?"

Are you thinking along the lines of

"Is this penis real, or is it enhanced?"

Exactly Synnen. They do have penal implants nowadays, let's see if we can spot the difference. All in the name of science of course. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it. ME! ME, pick ME! ;)

I was thinking maybe natural but from observation natural breasts go with the gravity of the body and in this case it is to the side and closer to the head. They "should" be going closer to her neckline rather then to the front and side (if that makes any sense). I don't have any arguments over the nipples just the "way" they are sitting on her body is not corresponding (computer enhanced?). I say fake because of that, but she sure is a beautiful model.

Anyone have a picture of Ron Jeremy lying around somewhere?

I mean, for Alty's sake, of course.

Anyone have a picture of Ron Jeremy lying around somewhere?

I mean, for Alty's sake, of course.


:eek: A picture from the waist down please. :eek:

http://galleries.lycos.co.uk/d/17927-4/ron-jeremy.jpg

Now that wasn't pretty. :) ;)

Now that wasn't pretty. :) ;)

Put a paper bag on him...

That's a pretty darn big paper bag Stringer! ;)

It always amazes me that Ron Jermey is the "king of porn".

That's a pretty darn big paper bag Stringer! ;)

For your benefit... I was talking about putting it over his head... no... don't go there.

Exactly Synnen. They do have penal implants nowadays, let's see if we can spot the difference. All in the name of science of course. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it. ME! ME, pick ME! ;)


And then there's the blow up (pardon the phrase) kind of implant. Those guys are easy to spot because they have a small generator next to the bed.

And when they're "done," they pull the plug and fly around the room like deflated balloons.

It always amazes me that Ron Jermey is the "king of porn".


Me too Synn. I guess if you just look at his privates then you, he's got the goods. The rest of him leaves something to be desired, like a hot poker in the eye! :D

my vote, they are fake.
Not only are they unrealistically perfectly round, they don't fall naturally. Natural boobs would be falling out and to the side in that position.

Another thing, her areolas (around the nipple) are quite large. They look like they would have been stretched during the process.

I agreee with the above, XD

It always amazes me that Ron Jermey is the "king of porn".

The guy in the picture is the "king of porn"? I hope he behind the camera because I wouldn't want to see him in any movies.

Damn, can you imagine all that hair?

The only reasonable thing I've ever hear ron jeremy say... and it isn't like I keep tabs on what he says... was "ive gotten more women off with my tongue than my d*&k"...

I might just agree with the fat, hairy boy. Put a gun to my head and tell me to get you off... I'm on my knees.

A pillow under your arse wouldn't hurt. The right angle makes it so much easier.

Uhm...

Uh...

Oh yeah, I guess I'm off topic.

I blame the ladies. They MAKE me act naughty.

Oh... yeah... and if you need to borrow a gun to point at me to get me on my knees, there's one in the second drawer down. ;)

Searching for the gun, searching for the gun, where's that darn gun? I can't find it! Darnit, not fair, you hid it! :(

Its in my pants

Are you sure that's a gun KP? ;)

that's for me to know and for you to find out. ;)

Is that a dare? You know I can't resist a dare! ;)

Darnit, I should be upstairs with hubby but I just can't seem to pull away from the puter. Naughty KP, you've got me spell bound.

Okay, shake it off. I'm coming hubby, or at least I hope so. ;)

Loot at the top part of the cleavage near the throat. As a general rule if the curve goes all the way to wear the skin begins to rise away from the chest odds are smack on they are fake. Real large boobs (as in not fake on D and above, sometimes C), even on young women will decend on a vertical line for the first few inches depending on mussle tone sometimes even further.

And a woman I knew with big fake boobs she was proud of is who pointed that out to me. In a video I can pick out fake ones every time. But this way you can peg them even if she is wearing a bra with just a little cleaving showing.

THen there is the "how do they dance" when she moves. Even with a heavy duty bra a D or better will have some movement when she walks. Fake ones seem to defy the laws of gravity in more aspects than one.

I love big boobs when they are real. I'm not a big fan of fake ones.

Are you sure that's a gun KP? ;)

And this thread is about?:)

its in my pants

Do you have a concealed carry permit for that gun?

You are all being very naughty.

I'd spank you all and close the thread, but honestly---this is somewhat amusing.

Who knew that asking about fake boobs would get you a conversation about a gun?

Well, if you guys get to look at boobies, I think we should be allowed to imagine your guns. Imagining kp's is a personal hobby of mine. I know I'm not alone in that.

Whoops, now I'm imagining stringer's. Whoops, whoops, whoops.

Now it's smoothy's. Whoops.

Well. Now. Back to kp's... my favorite.

Judy, the balloon thing was horrendous. Yes, I was laughing, but now I need a confession booth.

Talking about weird science, that bellybutton story was painful to read. Why not do it through their noses? Or their starfish?

Them bubbies is not real.

well, if you guys get to look at boobies, i think we should be allowed to imagine your guns. imagining kp's is a personal hobby of mine. i know i'm not alone in that.

whoops, now i'm imagining stringer's. whoops, whoops, whoops.

now it's smoothy's. whoops.

well. now. back to kp's... my favorite.

judy, the balloon thing was horrendous. yes, i was laughing, but now i need a confession booth.

talking about weird science, that bellybutton story was painful to read. why not do it through their noses? or their starfish?

them bubbies is not real.

HMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... second best huh? :)

talking about weird science, that bellybutton story was painful to read. why not do it through their noses? or their starfish?

Because you'd need to go through more internal "walls"... the belly button surgery, as I understand it, runs a tube from the insertion at the belly button up to the chest by going essentially under the skin only, through fatty tissue. The tube does not go into your abdominal cavity.

If you go in through the nose or mouth, you are going to be in the respiratory system (wouldnt be done) or the digestive tract (and they do some surgeries through here), and would need to penetrate through that wall at some point... so you'd be in the tract, cut into through to get into the thoracic or abdominal cavity, and still not be at the right position. More cuts, more cumbersome, through areas you don't really want to cut.

J_9 would have to explain more about what they can do with "natural orifice surgeries"... to my knowledge, they only use the GI tract for surgeries closely tied to it... for ex, not to "ick" you out, but its possible to remove an appendix through a tube at the mouth and have very reduced pain.

Doctors at columbia med center last year, or maybe it was this year, did... hmmm.. I think it was removal of a kidney by going through a small incision in the uterus. Supposed to be faster healing and less painful from what I remember.

So through the belly button is like going through the armpit, just further away.

Wow... way to kill the mood, there.

Ick.

Hey... I was just staying on topic-ish with the surgery talk. No, its not the same as "look at these boobs"...

You threatened spanking if we kept straying and linny asked a good question. She's an inquisitive woman. I feel an obligation to engage her mind. And stuff.

We're back on topic? Pooh! :(

because youd need to go through more internal "walls"... the belly button surgery, as i understand it, runs a tube from the insertion at the belly button up to the chest by going essentially under the skin only, through fatty tissue. the tube does not go into your abdominal cavity.

if you go in through the nose or mouth, you are going to be in the respiratory system (wouldnt be done) or the digestive tract (and they do some surgeries through here), and would need to penetrate through that wall at some point...so youd be in the tract, cut into through to get into the thoracic or abdominal cavity, and still not be at the right position. more cuts, more cumbersome, through areas you dont really want to cut.

J_9 would have to explain more about what they can do with "natural orifice surgeries"... to my knowledge, they only use the GI tract for surgeries closely tied to it... for ex, not to "ick" you out, but its possible to remove an appendix through a tube at the mouth and have very reduced pain.

doctors at columbia med center last year, or maybe it was this year, did... hmmm.. i think it was removal of a kidney by going through a small incision in the uterus. supposed to be faster healing and less painful from what i remember.

so through the belly button is like going through the armpit, just further away.


Um, it was extremely sexy to hear you going through the dynamics involved in defining the finite possibilities of surgical boobery.

That said, I know I'm a natural blond, but I did realize the silly nature of the question.

For the record, linny doesn't think that the body is like cotton stuffed teddy bear in which one might reach in and stuff the feet through the eye holes.

If we really want to get technical about it, she has dissected more animals in her lifetime than she will ever care to recount, she soared through honors biology courses in college (with a 4.0 average, ahem), and she has spent an enormous amount of her adult life studying human anatomy, which happens to play a significant role in her existence as an artist (in fact, bloody show off that she is, linny sculpts detailed abstractions of skulls, muscles and bones underneath her classical realist portrait and figure sculptures).

I'm sorry for the "linny" references, but if I'm bragging, I insist on doing it in the third person. It almost sounds like someone else is saying it. Yes, I said almost.

Tada.

Honestly, I thought the idea was so silly that it would result in a simple double take and a little smile. I just couldn't resist suggesting the image... or let an opportunity to say "starfish" fly by.

No offense given, and none taken. :)

I just don't want you (or anyone else) thinking that I'm sitting at home, staring at the wall and really wondering why it wouldn't be a great idea to do a boob job through a bum hole. Or a nose for that matter.

Moral: don't try it at home.

HMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....second best huh? :)

Well...

I see your point. Yes, your big, strong point.

If it makes you feel any better, when I'm imagining one, it's the only thing on my mind.

I know.

In that way, I'm a simple girl.

well...

i see your point. yes, your big, strong point.

if it makes you feel any better, when i'm imagining one, it's the only thing on my mind.

i know.

in that way, i'm a simple girl.

Ok, but there is no way I can answer this and maintain any sense of honor... hee hee. :)

that said, i know i'm a natural blond, but i did realize the silly nature of the question.

for the record, linny doesn't think that the body is like cotton stuffed teddy bear in which one might reach in and stuff the feet through the eye holes.

i just don't want you (or anyone else) thinking that i'm sitting at home, staring at the wall and really wondering why it wouldn't be a great idea to do a boob job through a bum hole. or a nose for that matter.

I know... I'm just an amateur med geek and you gave me an opening to play doctor. Like I can walk away from that.

i know... im just an amateur med geek and you gave me an opening to play doctor. like i can walk away from that.

Yum, my bad. :) looks like someone got our lines crossed.

*quick, alty, help me tie them around his wrists!*

There we go. That's better.

So you want to play doctor, hmm?

What's this part called? Where does it connect to the funny bone? Why are some people blond? Why is the sky blue? Linny says she knows about the nose and starfish thing. She has also played Operation on several occasions and almost won twice, so she knows what she is talking about. I see only one important question left.

What's one man to do with a real pair of F's? I mean alty's. Forgive me, my highly adored and respected friend, I'm pimping you out again. My pair of F's lives in my imagination. Yes, they live there. In a pumpkin. Someone woke up giddy this morning. It must be you. *wink!

Are these tatas real?

http://www.allmoviesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/pamela_anderson_bikini_tommy_lee_full.jpg

I found a truly scientific chart called "The Ratio of Pamela's Breasts over Pamela's Head vs. Time"
http://www.superpam.com/

http://www.pamelachannel.com/channel/odette-sugerman/

As a graphic artist I would say the boobs are real but have been enhanced graphically. More photsohop than nature.

Personally they are fake to me, but it depends on what a person likes in set of breasts.

The skin looks real, the nipples look real, would the handling of such a set seem real (I don't know, I've never handled such a set)?

For some guys, if the skin is real, the nipples are real, and the handling is acceptable to their preferences then they are real. For some guys it doesn't matter what is inside because they would prefer a woman to have breasts that stimulate them visually and since they had little or no interest what was inside originally any change that they can't see is a non-issue.

So to some, are they real, yes; but they have been structurally enhanced... and to those people they either don't care about the structural enhancement or prefer the enhancement ;)

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Oh and for boobs to be that firm naturally she would have to be 14 or 15 years old and a freak of nature in the boob department... she doesn't look 14 or 15.

I believe Pamela admitted in the past that her boobs was fake. She is a real honest person and her boobs have been discuss many times.

Here is a linked about her talking about her boobs:
www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/archive/2008/09/23/pam-anderson-talks-divorces-boob-jobs-amp-shower-scenes.aspx - 48k - Cached -

Yes, pamela has been very open about her enhancements, both talking about her surgeries and displaying them for some coin.

I have a great, great friend who is curvey and busty. I've known her since before HS days. She has structure and form that lead many to accuse her of having enhancement. I've even seen her topless... no, we've never dated or anything like that. Just good, old friends... (btw, she's shown me her arse too, more than once, when mooning me out of her displeasure. Funny how that was to "punish" me) so if she gets a new nipple ring she might say "want to take a look?"... I'm a boy... hell yes! She's tanned topless in my back yard. I know it sounds weird. It is what it is. She just doesn't think it's a big deal. Also, she's worked in theatre for forever, and you just have to get over being naked in front of people to do costume changes. Some people are more voyeuristic and comfortable in their own skin.

My point... what the hells my point?. boob distraction... uhm... I think people are sometimes too quick to judge.

This girl was teased and tormented when younger for having a bigger chest. In college girls accused her of having implants. Please! Are you kidding me? She was working her arse off just to buy food week to week.

I GUARANTEE you... if you saw her naked, you'd say "fake"... she just has more structure than you expect and perfectly round DD's... what's the phrase for bad implants? Boobs on a board? She's almost that, but I KNOW she's had no surgery. I've been around her since she was 12.

There are some people who have form and structure that is genetic, "God given", whatever.

I saw sophia loren on the dave letterman show last year. She looked fantastic! And not like she's had so many surgeries that her eyebrows are at her hairline... she looks naturally beautiful... and voluptuous to boot.

I'm not one to deny what a good bra can do to any woman. For a woman who is smaller, a little padding and proper support can do wonders. For a bigger woman, the right support can "firm" and shape.

Mkay... I'm losing myself here, so I should quit.

Yes, pam (she lets me call her pam) has had implants... emphasis on the plural.

But don't always assume a girl with high structure on the chest has had surgery. Push up bras can make a bigger woman with firm structure look fake.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not a fan of "boobs on a board" and there are some really bad jobs out there... but the woman I dated with a good job... it was just as pleasing to the touch as the girl I dated in HS with the naturally big chest.

I still don't know what my point was other than to talk about boobs.

Welcome to Boob Talk.

Hmmm, with all this boob talk I might go and get a boob job. I won't even tell my fiancé just come home with it like I got a new hairstyle or something. I wonder what would he say? I know what he would do but I guess actions speak louder than words. Hmmm!

So is one to assume, kp, that you prefer nicely done implanted women to naturally flat-chested women? Interesting attitude... At least you're honest though... I feel like a lot of guys who claim they don't like implants aren't being honest with themselves/imagine implants feeling like Barbie's boobies or something... considering they all seem to like the famous models, which all intelligent people KNOW are often fake.

Uhm... I NEVER said that.

Yes. I like curves. And the idea of "natural" is quite nice. But I've dated a sexy woman who just RULED me, and she was an A cup. A bad boob job isn't sexy. I've only dated one woman who had one (implants), and hers was all but undetectable.

Personally, I like proportion more than anything. One italian girl I dated was a bit "wider"... not necessarily fat, but not skinny by any means. Her form was nice and pleasing. And really, it was her eyes and lips that slayed me. Curves up top might catch my eye, but there are so many areas of a woman's body that is just amazing... so I didn't mean to sound like I prefer bigger versus smaller.

The petite nursing student with A's was just lovely as she was.

And the HS sweetheart with big C/D's was fine too.

Don't assume from my rantings that I'm am all breast man, and that bigger is better.

My diatribe was more about how assuming a "bigger" girl with a thin waist is all surgery... sometimes that's true, and sometimes not.

From a women's perspective I can see the desire to get implants. Not for me though, I already have 32F's I don't want or need them any bigger than that. At this point I'm thinking of a reduction, maybe then gravity will slow down a bit. ;)

I think that where men are concerned, it's a bad boob job that's a turn off. If you can't tell when you touch them, then I think most men would say they're okay.

Am I right boys, or totally off the mark?

From a womens perspective I can see the desire to get implants. Not for me though, I already have 32F's I don't want or need them any bigger than that. At this point I'm thinking of a reduction, maybe then gravity will slow down a bit. ;)

I think that where men are concerned, it's a bad boob job that's a turn off. If you can't tell when you touch them, then I think most men would say they're okay.

Am I right boys, or totally off the mark?

I'm not a boob guy personally and you know the saying "tits are for kids"... lol. However, I do like the look of boobs in clothing, I like the lines and curves they create for a woman; I prefer boobs that are in preportion to the woman's body again from a covered perspective. As for naked boobs, all shapes and sizes have their plus's, it doesn't matter much to me from a visual perspective but I would not like boobs that are hard; fake hard as opposed to the firm I knew when I was a teenager as were teenaged boobs I touched.

As for bad boob job, any boob job that is on a woman that is very thin and the boobs pop off the chest like they were super glued on is a bad boob job no matter how good they may look; because to me they don't look like they match the body.

I think that where men are concerned, it's a bad boob job that's a turn off. If you can't tell when you touch them, then I think most men would say they're okay.

Am I right boys, or totally off the mark?

I think your spot on Alty , especially as far as I'm concerned.

I also agree with KP were as it's not the size that counts.

See that's just it though TP. I'm not a large women, not ultra thin, but not overweight, yet I still have size F boobs, 32F to boot so I do get comments like "are those real?" Why would ayone pay to have F's, they're a pain in the back, a pain to buy clothing for, just a regular pain.

My boobs don't really match my body, but they are mine, they are natural. Thank goodness I'm tall otherwise I'd really look funny. ;)

Personally, one of my favorite view of a woman's chest is from behind. I love looking at the lines of her back, and seeing a little side boob from behind. Just love that curve.

Maybe its because I like a little mystery. Full frontal is fine, but I'm a but of a voyeur... tease me some and I'm putty.

See that's just it though TP. I'm not a large women, not ultra thin, but not overweight, yet I still have size F boobs, 32F to boot so I do get comments like "are those real?" Why would ayone pay to have F's, they're a pain in the back, a pain to buy clothing for, just a regular pain.

My boobs don't really match my body, but they are mine, they are natural. Thank goodness I'm tall otherwise I'd really look funny. ;)

Tall with discernable boobs is a good thing, often a tall woman lacks some of the curves that a shorter woman has and having an ample rack "as they say" must make you quite the alluring sight.

I love tall women... shame I am a shorter man, the two have matched up only on occasion in my life... lol.

TP... what does your avatar shirt say? Curious.

The only problem I've had with taller women is if their femurs are really long, well... its hard sometimes to "match up"... I'm not short, but not tall... married to a shorter, but long legged woman.

I've dated tall guys, short guys, fat guys, skinny guys, it's about what's in their heart, not what they look like. At least for me. :)

Hubby is 6'1" I'm 5'11".

My shortest boyfriend was 5'4".

TP... what does your avatar shirt say? curious.



It says


Geezer
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Dingbat

TP... what does your avatar shirt say? curious.

the only problem ive had with taller women is if their femurs are really long, well... its hard sometimes to "match up"... im not short, but not tall... married to a shorter, but long legged woman.


Ya, I've had that problem KP, a lot! :(

TP... what does your avatar shirt say? curious.

the only problem ive had with taller women is if their femurs are really long, well... its hard sometimes to "match up"... im not short, but not tall... married to a shorter, but long legged woman.

The T-Shirt needs to be taken down in light of the election season is over, but it says:

GEEZER
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DINGBAT

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Altenweg agrees: So you are a boob man M. ;)

Uuhhmmmm yes , amongst other things ;)

So M, and all the other men, what's your "thing" are you a boob man, arse man, leg man, personality, looks, what?

Inquiring minds want to know. :)

Be honest!

so m, and all the other men, what's your "thing" are you a boob man, arse man, leg man, personality, looks?

Be honest!

Yes!!

Oh my, all of them M? Wow! :)

Well first and foremost is the woman's personality, my wife is the most beautiful woman I know and it comes from the inside; that is what attracted me to her. I've dated lots of women that were very physically attractive, but they didn't have an inner beauty that spoke to me; perhaps someone else, but not to me.

Now having said that and being that this thread is about boobs and the physical, I would consider myself a "Treasure" guy.

The "Treasure" of course (not to be crude) is a woman's genitalia. How can that be since it's not visible? Well it works like this for me.

If I see a woman with nice hips, butt, and long legs in pair of jeans cut just the right way it drives me crazy and my mind thinks about her "Treasure". Or if I see a woman in a skirt or a dress I can't help thinking about the "Treasure" that awaits under her skirt.

I might be in the minority amongst men here and you might think of me as vulgar, but you asked for honesty.

This might sound superficial, but to me I love the packaging of the "Treasure"; not so much the "Treasure" itself, but what the packaging does to draw my attention to this fantasy notion of the "Treasure" beyond my sight or grasp. The mystery is big part of it, because I find a woman much more sexy in clothing that accentuates her hips, legs, etc. than her completely naked; which takes all the mystery out of it.

Of course what arouses my curiosity to begin with is something about the persons face, whether that be the eyes, smile, kindness, youthfulness, confidence, or her personality. Once she has captured my attention through her face or some other aspect then I review the packaging of the "Treasure"... ;)

Oh... and long legs are one of the best packaging attributes... :)

Oh my, all of them M? Wow! :)


LOL... does that make me greedy Alty ;)

Hmm... I wonder how many guys who call themselves "legs" men or "hips" men are really that way for the kind of reason you mention.

I know when I was in high school, I used to argue to male friends that all the obsession with boobs and relative lack of interest in legs and hips didn't make sense to me, just from a practical standpoint... I guess for some men as they get older their tastes change though. (as a lady who does much better by societal ideals in the letter area than the former, I am a bit biased myself of course... )

M, greedy, no, delusional, maybe. ;) Kidding. There are women who have it all. :)

I am a women, and even though you boys didn't ask, I'll tell you what turns me on the most about a guy.

There are many things, but looks and a big "package" don't enter the picture. Sure, it's nice if he has it all, but those two are at the bottom of my list.

I like a guy that can make me laugh, think, cry, a man that makes baby noises at a dog. I like a guy that can open a jar of jam but isn't defensive when I do it. I like a guy who believes that women can do anything a man can. I like a guy that accepts me for who and what I am and doesn't dredge up the past that I can't change. In other words, I like my hubby. ;)

I have to say that your "fetish" isn't as abnormal as you think TP. A lot of guys like a bit of mystery and prefer to imagine what's under the clothes then seeing a girl naked.

I feel the same way about a guy in a nice pair of jeans. Yummy! :)

Well I didn't mean they were all essential Alty , just that I liked all of them ;)

Hmm... I wonder how many guys who call themselves "legs" men or "hips" men are really that way for the kind of reason you mention.

I know when I was in high school, I used to argue to male friends that all the obsession with boobs and relative lack of interest in legs and hips didn't make sense to me, just from a practical standpoint... I guess for some men as they get older their tastes change though. (as a lady who does much better by societal ideals in the letter area than the former, I am a bit biased myself of course...)

I've always been a "Treasure" guy, but when I was in my early teens there was more of an interest in boobs, largely I think because they were relatively new on the girls; but as I said on a previous page in this thread "tits are for kids"... :) Now that is not to besmurch other men who have a primary interest in them, as I've matured over the years I know that my erotic triggers have expanded and/or changed from time to time and if "boobs" are the be all and end all for other guys, I can certainly understand it.

Well then M, if you could only have a few, which would be the most important?

I've always been a "Treasure" guy, but when I was in my early teens there was more of an interest in boobs, largely I think because they were relatively new on the girls; but as I said on a previous page in this thread "tits are for kids"... :) Now that is not to besmurch other men who have a primary interest in them, as I've matured over the years I know that my erotic triggers have expanded and/or changed from time to time and if "boobs" are the be all and end all for other guys, I can certainly understand it.

Personally I've never understood the obsession some men have for boobs. Maybe it's because I own a pair. ;)

But really, lets think about this logically, and totally gross out the "boob" guys.

Boobs have a purpose, they are for feeding an infant. In fact, my hubby, who loves the boobs, was really turned off by them when I was brestfeeding the kids. It got to the point where he asked me to wear a bra during sex. I thought it was hilarious, after all, that is what boobs are for.

Really though, they're just bumps with nipples. Why the fascination?

Well then M, if you could only have a few, which would be the most important?

Ok I suppose the first thing that strikes me when a woman walks in the room is her face , if she has a pretty face she has my attention.

Nice legs are an eyecatcher for me too. But ultimately a good personality obviously is a must.

(AND WORLD PEACE):rolleyes:

Personally I've never understood the obsession some men have for boobs. Maybe it's because I own a pair. ;)

But really, lets think about this logically, and totally gross out the "boob" guys.

Boobs have a purpose, they are for feeding an infant. In fact, my hubby, who loves the boobs, was really turned off by them when I was brestfeeding the kids. It got to the point where he asked me to wear a bra during sex. I thought it was hilarious, after all, that is what boobs are for.

Really though, they're just bumps with nipples. Why the fascination?

I think that some men need "boobs" to play with because their idea of what turns a woman on is based on their own self view of physical stimulation (i.e. their penis). They need something tangible, outside the body (as it were) to focus their attention on; to please a woman. I remember having this conflict with myself when I was a very young teen, but decided ( I was exposed to female genitailia at a young age ) that what I couldn't see as much had much more potential for pleasing her and pleasing me. So I understand that some men love to play with boobs thinking it is the be all and end all in pleasing a woman, and for some women they love having their boobs played with; it helps define them sexually and some report being able to orgasm from having them played with.

So I get it what "boobs" do for some men and why they are so fascinated with the female version of the penis (as it were). Now is that the only reason some guys are "boob" men, I doubt it, but since I'm not a boob guy other than I love they way they look in clothing. I can't offer much more.

:)

Hmmm, interesting insight into men and the way they think. Thanks boys. :)

TexasParent,

But nipples are very sensitive in both men and women. They can be used to turn both men and women on.

But the size of the boobs has no impact on this. And the boobs are not analogous to the penis. So, I guess your explanation still doesn't really make sense to me.

I always figured it was just pop culture. Just because boobs are what you see everywhere, and what young boys learn to focus their attention on. Brothers talk about them, magazines feature sexily posed women with visual focus on breasts.

Altenweg,
Wow, to me that's sad. I do not think all men find breasts to be a turnoff when they are feeding infants.

Altenweg,
Wow, to me that's sad. I do not think all men find breasts to be a turnoff when they are feeding infants.

No, not all men, and hubby is fine now that the kids are weaned (they better be weaned, they're 10 and 6! ;)) but he felt as if they weren't sexy anymore because they had a purpose all of a sudden.

I kind of get it. To see your favorite play thing being used as a source of nourishment for your own child is a bit strange.

As for the nipples and stimulus, I agree. I am one of those women that can get to orgasm by simple nipple stimulation. Heck, if my bra rubs me the wrong way it can end up being very good. Not a good thing while shopping in Walmart in December. ;)

Who sais boobs are not analogous to the penis?

cawjus, I realize that you're new, but in order to join this site you were required to read the rules and regulations and agree to follow them.

It is against the rules to give someone a disagree for an opinion. You can only disagree with factually incorrect information.

Please follow the rules in the future.

Thank you.

HistorianChick agrees: Balancer: The "disagree" comment doesn't even pertain to the answer.

Thank you HC and thanks Alty too , had to spread the Rep!

No problem M, we all have eachothers back. You've done the same for me many times.

Darnit, I still can't believe you two have never gotten reddies. I got one days after I joined.

Is it me? ;)

Personally I've never understood the obsession some men have for boobs. Maybe it's because I own a pair. ;)

But really, lets think about this logically, and totally gross out the "boob" guys.

Boobs have a purpose, they are for feeding an infant. In fact, my hubby, who loves the boobs, was really turned off by them when I was brestfeeding the kids. It got to the point where he asked me to wear a bra during sex. I thought it was hilarious, after all, that is what boobs are for.

Really though, they're just bumps with nipples. Why the fascination?

I can't explain mens fascination with boobs... its something that's primal. It's there, you know its always been there, but you can't explain why. Its something that just "is" for most of us.

That part said it does vary guy to guy as to what they like. And even then that will vary throughout his life for many. I know it did for me. When I was younger I was all about big boobs. As I got older I learned to appreciate nipples as well as smaller breasts... right now I like all size breasts as long as they at least look real. Fake big ones usually look fake and for me those are a turn-off. I don't even like seeing fake ones in a porn movie.

Can't explain your hubbies reaction however. Maybe during that period it was projecting an image of your child nursing that moment into his mind and that was ruining the moment for him?

Still it's a lovely picture. Well composed. Interesting subject material. Must have taken quite a while to compose and get the lighting just right.

Oh sorry, got off topic. :)

Definitely fake. Although if not can someone get her to give me a call:D

Let's just say my curiosity has gotten the better of me, in terms of whether some of these models really were just gifted genetically, or whether this is surgical enhancement and then airbrushing going on here.

Because I've never seen completely natural big boobs look that round, I'm guessing fake, but I'm curious what others think...

Where Professional Models Meet Model Photographers - ModelMayhem (http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=48acf4c847619&date=2008-08-21%2000:53:31&id=234614&pid=8074580&the_count=9)


If they are fake she's got one heck of a plastic surgeon. I saw no evidence of any scarring and usually you can see some around the nipples or along the ribs when they are enhanced.

If they are fake she's got one heck of a plastic surgeon. I saw no evidence of any scarring and usually you can see some around the nipples or along the ribs when they are enhanced.THey can do it through the naval with saline implants... There would be no scarring.

If they are fake she's got one heck of a plastic surgeon. I saw no evidence of any scarring and usually you can see some around the nipples or along the ribs when they are enhanced.

Don't forget Photoshop or airbrushing; I challenge you to find a blemish on any Playmate Centerfold :p

If they are fake she's got one heck of a plastic surgeon. I saw no evidence of any scarring and usually you can see some around the nipples or along the ribs when they are enhanced.

My post was buried back in the pages, but this is the same model. Notice the c shaped line on the underside of the areola. It's there, and looks just like the scar that a girlfriend who had implants had.

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When girls lay back like that, their boobs do go to the side like that. So they could be real.

But... on the other hand, she's really too skinny to have boobs like that...

AND... the guys I'm with say they're photoshopped. Haha.

So who knows?

Breast implants are like fake Christmas trees. If they look real, if you have to wonder, does it really matter? Their job was done.

THey could look real from a distance when done right. But they aren't going to feel real to the touch.

Sort of like those fake plates of food you can see in restaurants in some places... looks real, looks tastey, but when it gets right down to it... it still isn't real food and won't taste like it. They are for display only.

When girls lay back like that, their boobs do go to the side like that. So they could be real.

but...on the other hand, she's really too skinny to have boobs like that...

AND...the guys i'm with say they're photoshopped. haha.

so who knows?


I'm a thin girl with 32F boobs and yes, they're real. Being thin doesn't mean you automatically have small boobs, just like being a larger women doesn't necessarily mean you'll have large boobs.

We come in many different shapes and sizes, there is no "norm".

I'm a stripper and a model. I know boobs. Those are fake. They are too round. She is laying on her back and the a perfectyl perky and not drooping to the side and they are huge! Good boob job though

"If they look real, if you have to wonder, does it really matter? Their job was done."

Well this is extending the topic beyond the original question, but yes I think it does matter, because I wish we as a society did not have such narrow standards for what constitutes "beauty". Standards have become increasingly narrow over the past century.

With all the women in the media having surgery to look more similar to one another, that only creates unrealistic expectations in men and self-doubt among women who don't happen to look exactly like the media's ideal.

Being naturally large breasted, fake