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capriece
Nov 11, 2008, 12:48 PM
Hello,
I have a gas furnace that has an electronic ignition? The blower and the fire come on but something keeps clicking and I don't get heat. This has been happening since I turned the gas back on. Does anyone have any ideas? Any help
Would be appreciated, I am a single mom and money is just super tight right now.
Thank You,
Capriece

hvac1000
Nov 11, 2008, 01:46 PM
The blower and the fire come on but something keeps clicking and I don't get heat

If the blower and fire come on you should have heat. Can you take the door off the furnace and see what is clicking?

capriece
Nov 11, 2008, 02:26 PM
I take the door off, and what ever is clicking is in the top part by the wires etc but I don't know what it is. The only way I can shut it off is to take the door off otherwise it keeps going even if I turn it off at the thermostat

hvac1000
Nov 11, 2008, 03:02 PM
Is this unit in a mobile home?

What is the brand and EXACT model number.

capriece
Nov 11, 2008, 03:22 PM
Nope, regular house
Payne
RG8DAA036050 Series A

I think this is it :]

hvac1000
Nov 11, 2008, 03:53 PM
Sorry I do not find that model number listed so it would be a guessing game as far as picking out the problem with the furnace.

Did you have the gas turned off or the gas company?

The gas line might need to be bled and that job you better leave to the professionals.

capriece
Nov 11, 2008, 03:57 PM
Bummer, nope I turned it off over the summer
Thank you for trying.

I got the model number off the furnace inside the bottom compartment, it said model is there some other number I should look for? It's a 10 year old Payne

hvac1000
Nov 11, 2008, 04:13 PM
If it said furnace model that is it. I have most info for furnaces but not that number one. Look again and post if you fid a different one. Usually the model number will be with other info on a tag.

MarkwithaK
Nov 11, 2008, 07:05 PM
The 'clicking' you hear is most likely the spark ignition.

capriece
Nov 11, 2008, 07:32 PM
OK, why is it trying but not succeeding to spark?

Thank yoy,
Capriece

mygirlsdad77
Nov 11, 2008, 07:38 PM
Paynes can be a pain. Sorry money is tight, but I believe you need to call for onsite help. I would rather see you be in debt, than be hurt by trying to work on something that you are not familiar with. Please be safe and call for help. Explain your current situation to the company you call for help, and see if they won't let you make payments. If they are decent folks. They will work with you and help you get back in heat without breaking the bank.

MarkwithaK
Nov 11, 2008, 07:54 PM
I am almost certain that your problem is with your flame sensor. That would explain why you say the flame ignites and the fan starts but you have no heat. It would also explain why your igniter keeps sparking.

hvac1000
Nov 11, 2008, 08:18 PM
Because no gas is there to lite off more than likely.

Let me mention this again just in case you forgot.

The gas line might need to be bled and that job you better leave to the professionals.

This may solve your problem. If not then it is possible the pilot orifice is plugged not allowing the gas to pass for ignition.

capriece
Nov 11, 2008, 09:04 PM
OK, so worse case about how much does a flame sensor or gas line bleeding run? I know it costs about a hundred just to come out.

hvac1000
Nov 11, 2008, 09:27 PM
The cost of work changes from area to area in this country. I have no idea what they charge in your area but you might call a few different places to see.

If you have natural gas/city gas the gas company might come out for free to bleed the system gas line. They do it around here but they will not fix the furnace just bleed the gas line. I guess they have had some close calls or body counts with home owners bleeding there own gas lines.

mygirlsdad77
Nov 12, 2008, 04:05 PM
How long exactly does the flame stay on? And is it just pilot flame. Or full main burner flame?

capriece
Nov 12, 2008, 09:15 PM
Ok this time when I put the front panel on the blower started running immediately. I turned up the thermostat and then the pilot light came on and then the full burner. Those ran for 3 to 5 minutes and warm air was coming out. Then the clicking starts going off constantly. The burner is still going, warm air is coming out still but every time there is a click the blower/warm air hesitates. Will this burn up my furnace? I take off the panel to stop it every time it starts clicking.

hvac1000
Nov 12, 2008, 11:19 PM
Now the unit is running but clicking. If you could just track down the clicking item and give us a idea of what it is could be we could figure it out and all you might have to do is buy and replace the part. But it is just a guessing game at this time. Sounds like a relay of sorts. That would cause the burner to hesitate.

MarkwithaK
Nov 13, 2008, 06:47 PM
I do believe that the bottom line here is that you are going to have to call a service company.

mygirlsdad77
Nov 13, 2008, 07:04 PM
Agree

T-Top
Nov 13, 2008, 07:33 PM
Its not a good model number you gave so its hard to help. The older payne furnace had a three wire pilot assembly with spark ignition(white,yellow,green)going to the pilot assembly. If the pilot orifice is restricted or if the gas is off or if the five wire gas valve is faulting out it won't light but will spark. The only flame sensor is the pilot assembly its self.

capriece
Nov 13, 2008, 07:58 PM
OK thanks for trying

MarkwithaK
Nov 13, 2008, 08:01 PM
Let us know what happens with this unit.

capriece
Nov 14, 2008, 12:44 AM
Ok I will

mygirlsdad77
Nov 14, 2008, 05:25 PM
Ok this time when I put the front panel on the blower started running immediately. I turned up the thermostat and then the pilot light came on and then the full burner. Those ran for 3 to 5 minutes and warm air was coming out. then the clicking starts going off constantly. the burner is still going, warm air is coming out still but everytime there is a click the blower/warm air hesitates. will this burn up my furnace? I take off the panel to stop it everytime it starts clicking.


Sorry I didn't pay enough attention to this post. Are you saying that every time there is a click the flame shuts down? Or every time there is a click the blower motor shuts down? If blower motor shuts down you most likely have a fualty relay, or control board. If burner shuts down, it may be as simple as a pressure switch(or plugged drain, if you have a 90+ efficient furnace) Does your furnace have a metal vent or plastic vent?

capriece
Nov 14, 2008, 07:55 PM
No, everything stays on, with each click the blower hesitates but stays going. I can't stand the constant clicking and am afraid it will burn up the furnace so I pull off the front panel to turn it off. I don't know what you mean by vent, are you talking about on the front panel? If so it's metal.

hvac1000
Nov 14, 2008, 08:03 PM
It could be something caught in the blower wheel.

mygirlsdad77
Nov 15, 2008, 05:05 PM
Your furnace should have enough safety devices on it to keep it from burning up. The worst that will most likely happen is the part that is malfunctioning will quite working all together. Then you will be able to replace that part and problem solved. However, I don't recommend using the (dont fix it till it don't work at all) approach. You really need to call for onsite help. May cost a bit, but you will have one less worry on your mind.