You got to love the guy for speaking his mind (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/mccain-to-hit-o.html)...


"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee said at a Seattle fundraiser Sunday, "it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said, including the Middle East and Russia as possibilities, "and he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Biden also mentioned the current economic crisis. "Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The garrulous Biden said that he's "forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it. This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

If he's so brilliant and so prepared, why is Biden already begging for help? Why is he already predicting low poll numbers? This is the guy that "has it" and this is his running mate?

Reportedly Biden added, “I probably shouldn’t have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here.”

Has he signed up for his much needed lobotomy yet?

Lobotomy? No. He's just bubbling over with excitement at the change that is really coming. He wants us to stand by as Obama and the Rockerfellers completely change the face of America. He wants us to have faith that Obama can pull it off.
Well, consider it done.

Sifting through his b.s. is like cleaning the Augean stables.

Yeah ;just like Jack Kennedy who went to a summit with Khrushev in June 1961 with no preconditions ;for an informal exchange of views .

By Kennedy's own account, the meetings were a disaster. Khrushchev berated, belittled, and bullied Kennedy on subjects ranging from Communist ideology to the balance of power between the Soviet and Western blocs, to Laos, to "wars of national liberation," to nuclear testing. He threw down the gauntlet on Berlin in particular, all but threatening war. Kennedy called the meeting the "roughest thing in my life."

Khrushchev had studied the events of the Bay of Pigs and "decided that he was dealing with an inexperienced young leader who could be intimidated and blackmailed."

To his credit Kennedy was a quick study .After the meeting he went before Congress and asked for massive increases in defense spending ; a tripling of draft calls, and calling up reserves and a civil defense program to minimize the number of Americans that would be killed in a nuclear attack.

Khrushev responded in August by erecting the Berlin Wall and beginning the process to nuclear arm Cuba.

Is that the type of crisis Joe Biden expects the young inexperienced Obama to face ?

Hello tom:

Well the white guy, whathisname, JFK did it. Why can't the black guy?

So, YOU'RE worried, huh?? Well, I got to tell you, I'm a feared to have Sarah Palin dealing the Moctoder and the Iranian dude, too. Actually, I'm more a feared than you, and with GOOD reason.

excon

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Stop inferring race into my calculations . It doesn't work.

Which inexperienced candidate is at the top of the ticket ? Is Joe Biden proposing that if there is some big international crisis that ole split Iraq into Kurdish ;AQ terrorist ,and Shia Iran dominated nations Joe Biden is going to give the inexperienced President sound advice in a crisis ?

Here's his stand on how he truly feels about America. He could care less...

Twinkie,
Try to keep up, they tried that over a year ago.

Which inexperienced candidate is at the top of the ticket ?Hello again, tom:

I don't know. You have YOUR view of what "inexperienced" means, and I have mine. They're not the same. They're not even close. We might as well not even be speaking the same language, and we're probably not.

It's a shame really. I wonder if that's going to get fixed. Proly not.

excon

Really ex, I understand the race factor is again the latest rage - after all Murtha just called his constituents racists (though he now concedes they’re just rednecks ( http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17764334/detail.html )), but I’d rather stick to Obama’s qualifications, character, judgment and platform. I find it curious that the left is who that keeps bringing up race instead of letting their candidate run on his merits.

I think Biden was again saying what he really thinks and reinforcing his previous opinion, confirmed again when asked about in a debate, that Obama is not qualified to be president and that it’s no place for on the job training. In this case I’d say he’s right.

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Wow, she did that in March 2007. I wonder what cartoon she made for Palin?

This is the only one. The rest are all caricatures of Democrats. That's not a "presidential watch" it's a Republican website - what a misnomer!

http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/cartoonarc/4Palin-Md.jpg

This is the only one. The rest are all caricatures of Democrats. That's not a "presidential watch" it's a Republican website - what a misnomer!

Gee, you're really sharp, NK, you've recognized the obvious.


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Why don't think call it IowaRepublicans.com? Why the misrepresentation?

Why don't think call it IowaRepublicans.com? Why the misrepresentation?

Why is it misrepresentation when it's perfectly obvious, they admit their political slant, and they are after all, watching the presidential election? YOu can't get much more open than admitting their mission is "To hold accountable the Democrat presidential candidates." You make an issue out of everything... and why are you changing the subject?

" You make an issue out of everything...Oh the hypocrisy...

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You seem to find issue with a lot of things yourself. :)

YouTube - Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_EAe1N9-M)

Oh the hypocrisy .....

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You seem to find issue with a lot of things yourself. :)

LOL, I can do that, too. So why are you changing the subject I asked?

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You started changing the subject here: Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - God bless Joe Biden (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/1332363-post12.html) so I thought it was OK to follow your lead.

Palin on Biden's comment :

The "International Crisis" Obama may face His running mate Joe Biden may speak again in public and that would be an International Crisis!".

Edit :

Here is Palin's remarks today :


Two weeks from today, Americans will be asked to cast their vote for the next president of the United States. There's no time to wait. Let's get right to it.
Did you hear what Senator Biden said at a fundraiser on Sunday? He guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected, we'll face an international crisis within the first six months of their administration. He told Democrat donors to mark his words – that there were “at least four or five scenarios” that would place our country at risk in an Obama administration. Thanks for the warning, Joe!
He didn't specify what all those four or five scenarios will be, but for clues, let's review the Obama foreign policy agenda.
Our opponent wants to sit down with the world's worst dictators. With no preconditions, he proposes to meet with a regime in Teheran that vows to “wipe Israel off the map.” Let's call that crisis scenario number one.
Senator Obama has also advocated sending our U.S. military into Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government. Invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war against terrorism. We'll call that scenario number two.
He opposed the surge strategy that has finally brought victory in Iraq within sight. He's voted to cut off funding for our troops, leaving our young men and women at grave risk. He wants to pull out, leaving some 25 million Iraqis at the mercy of Iranian-supported Shiite extremists and al Qaeda in Iraq. By his own admission, this could mean our troops would have to go back to Iraq. Crisis scenario number three.
After the Russian army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence – the kind of response that would only encourage Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine next. That would be crisis scenario number four.
But I guess the looming crisis that most worries the Obama campaign right now is Joe Biden's next speaking engagement. Let's call that crisis scenario number five.
The real problem is that these warnings from Joe Biden are similar to his earlier assessment of Barack Obama. It wasn't so long ago that he said Barack Obama wasn't up to the job, and that, quote, “the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.” The same Joe Biden said he would be honored to run on the ticket with John McCain because, quote, “the country would be better off.” And here we have some common ground. I want a president who spent 22 years in uniform defending our country. I want a president who isn't afraid to use the word “victory” when he talks about the wars we are fighting. I want a president who's ready on Day One. I want a president with the experience and the judgment and the wisdom to meet the next international crisis – or better yet to avoid it. I want John McCain as our commander-in-chief.

Nice try, NK, that was a response to your earlier post (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/1332205-post12.html) that was absent an actual response to the questions I asked, just prior to your changing the subject (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/1332370-post12.html). Do you have an actual response to the OP?

Palin on Biden's comment :

The "International Crisis" Obama may face His running mate Joe Biden may speak again in public and that would be an International Crisis!".

That doesn't sound like a person who is ready for the position she is running for. It sounds like unrestrained water cooler talk. There is a reason they don't let out in front of the press.

Do you have an actual response to the OP?Yes, I agree with you: God bless Joe Biden.

Yes, I agree with you: God bless Joe Biden.

So the answer is no.

Ok steve-o.

There is a reason they don't let out in front of the press.

Let's call that another lapse in Obama's judgment, first he picked the guy that said he wasn't qualified but his opponent is to be his running mate, and then he failed to keep Biden from being "out in front of the press."

The media finally admits what some of us have said all along. Note the following exchange (http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/10/hotline_after_d_468.html) in an interview of Sarah Palin by CNN's Drew Griffin:


Palin, asked if Biden gets a pass: "Drew, you need to ask your colleagues and I guess your bosses or whoever is in charge of all of this, why does Joe Biden get a pass on such a thing? Can you imagine if I would have said such a thing? No, I think that we would be hounded and held accountable for, what in the world did you mean by that, VP... candidate? Why would you say that mark my words, this nation will undergo international crisis if you elect Barack Obama? If I would have said that, you guys would have clobbered me."

Griffin: "You are right."

The media finally admits what some of us have said all along.Hello again, Steve:

I'm not quite sure what you're saying... I never know what you guy's are really saying, because you don't really SAY it. You INFER it.

So, what are you inferring?? That the media is liberal? Duh.

That Sarah Palin is equal to Joe Biden?? Dude! They ain't equal. Oh, they both got mouths, all right, but that's it.

excon

PS> Biden at least UNDERSTANDS what the job of VP is. But, like some of us have been saying, Sarah Palin doesn't have a clue. Yesterday, she said that she would be in CHARGE of the Senate and she'll be able to get down with senators to help make good laws...

What??

She even said she can see Russia from the Senate.

The VP is President of the Senate... check out your pocket Constitution. The fact that the modern VP has not exercised that role does not mean it doesn't exist. The Founders certainly intended the VP to play an active role . How do I know this ? Because all of them that were VPs did indeed preside over the Senate proceedings. Adams Jefferson and Burr all did so.

So why did it change ? My best guess is that the 12th Amendment changed to VP from an opponent of the President to a political ally. There was less of a case to be made of a true separation of powers . VP's became more inclined to work within the Executive branch and their role in the Senate evolved to primarily ceremonial .

But that doesn't mean a VP could not exercise that role .There would not be a damn thing that Harry Reid could do about Palin grabbing the gavel short of conviction on Impeachment .

VP's in some cases have since acted as liaisons with the legislative branch. LBJ was good at it. In fact ;Obama and Biden have openly spoken of him having a similar role.
So what Palin envisions is exactly what Obama has in mind for Biden.

Now perhaps Palin could've stated it better ;but she was addressing a 3rd grader's question .

Hello again, Steve:

I'm not quite sure what you're saying.... I never know what you guy's are really saying, because you don't really SAY it. You INFER it.

Let's not infer, even though I think it's been perfectly clear what I've said in the past. The mainstream media has a double standard, this guy admitted it. How does that serve the public interest? It doesn't, and don't give me that they're balanced out by Limbaugh and Fox News line. Do the majority of Americans get their news from Fox, Limbaugh, Medved, the National Review? Not even close.

Do the majority of Americans get their news from Fox, Limbaugh, Medved, the National Review? Not even close.Hello again, Steve:

Actually, I think it IS close... My evidence is the upcoming election. It's going to be close.

If the righty's aren't getting their news from talk radio, and all they get is the "liberal" media, Obama should CRUSH McCain... But, it ain't going to happen.

So, how are all those righty's keeping up if NOT for Limprod and his ilk?

excon

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, I think it IS close.... My evidence is the upcoming election. It's gonna be close.

If the righty's aren't getting their news from talk radio, and all they get is the "liberal" media, Obama should CRUSH McCain.... But, it ain't gonna happen.

So, how are all those righty's keeping up if NOT for Limprod and his ilk?

LOL, when I'm not being indoctrinated by Rush, Medved, Hannity and O'Reilly I get my news here of course. :rolleyes:

Joe Biden VP '08

Anyone with me?