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donf
Oct 15, 2008, 09:03 AM
We have all seen several postings asking why men cheat, correct?
So allow me to rephrase the question and ask why don't you cheat on your marriage partner?
LearningAsIGo
Oct 15, 2008, 09:15 AM
Excellent Question!
Reasons I don't cheat :
For Love
For Respect
For SELF Respect
For The Commitment I Made
For My Religious Convictions
That pretty much sums it up :)
jipflorist
Oct 15, 2008, 09:15 AM
I don't cheat because I love him and that was not the way that I was raised. It is called Morals. Why would you marry that person if you are just going to cheat on them/
donf
Oct 16, 2008, 06:09 AM
Interesting stat. My question sought positive responses for not cheating. There have been three responses and 25 views to my original question.
Two previous questions, with negative context:
"Why men cheat": 41 responses, 503 views.
"For those dating married men" 64 responses, 5,436 views.
So it seems to me that it is quite likely that people may be willing to muck rake rather that support "Marriage".
Synnen, I know that we disagree often, but would you be willing to comment on my point?
Emland
Oct 16, 2008, 06:44 AM
I don't cheat because I believe the promise I made.
I think folks don't follow these threads because this subject doesn't fire up prurient interest, i.e. folks like us are boring :(
sylvan_1998
Oct 16, 2008, 06:54 AM
However ambiguous these questions are, I have read and kept up with them both. I do feel the commitment to spend my life with someone is paramount to any other commitment, I realize those are my feelings. My spouse is adamant that the deal breaker would be if I cheated. That is why I don't cheat. Out of respect for him, the commitment to spending my life with him (not wanting to interrupt this because of children), and because I do not want him to one daybe hurt by something that he was never meant to be a party to.
I am sure many people will not like my answer, but the bottom line is I don't cheat and this is why.
JBeaucaire
Oct 16, 2008, 09:28 AM
Don, I think drawing a statistical conclusion comparing your 1-day old post with two that have been up for weeks... a little premature. Hehe.
On the other hand, the forum is, by design, a place for people to come for help when things are screwed up... and royally sometimes. The people who are here helping are far outnumbered by the flailing masses, so I would expect the negative bias to be there if we're strictly going by numbers.
Just a thought.
donf
Oct 16, 2008, 09:46 AM
JB,
Possibly, "Stat" was a poor choice of word.
What I was trying to get at is that there seems to be a plethora of people who know why people cheat. So I thought for balance sake I would pose the opposite question to let all of us know that there are reasons and hard choices made not to cheat.
Personally, I would never want to hurt my wife by cheating on her. That would destroy the fabric of trust between us that has helped us weather a myriad of storms.
Emland
Oct 16, 2008, 10:53 AM
Personally, I would never want to hurt my wife by cheating on her. That would destroy the fabric of trust between us that has helped us weather a myriad of storms.
I think that is a big difference between cheaters and non-cheaters. Non-cheaters think of others while cheaters think mainly of themselves.
DoulaLC
Oct 17, 2008, 05:08 AM
It's just something you don't do. If you are in a committed relationship, you simply don't step outside those bounds.
I may see someone and think, "He's really good looking", or think that someone is very compassionate, or funny, or intelligent, etc. but I would have no desire to cheat on my husband with someone.
kelly514
Oct 17, 2008, 04:57 PM
I wouldn't cheat simply because that would be degrading myself... If everyone started cheating then our relationship with any one individual would become almost meaningless, you lose a certain intimacy you get with that special someone... and you hurt your partner and for what? For someone who has not and will not be a part of your life especially when times are bad!. Not worth it!
talaniman
Oct 21, 2008, 10:09 AM
Don't have time for that nonsense. Plus I gave my word.
NowWhat
Oct 22, 2008, 07:07 AM
I made a vow to my husband before God and my family.
I promised him to love and honor him until death.
No person is worth breaking my word, no matter what trials our relationship is going through.
Trials in life make you stronger.
There is a saying - "If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it"
I love my husband, I would never - ever hurt him like that or destroy my family.
Affairs are like putting a bomb in the middle of a busy street - when it explodes, it hurts a lot of people.
Synnen
Oct 22, 2008, 07:31 AM
Comment on your stat? Well, I think it's a little off, for one, simply because your thread hasn't been around as long.
For another--I've been EXTREMELY busy with life lately; as a matter of fact, I've had others helping me keep an eye on the boards I moderate because I just haven't had much time to be here. Which, really, is why this is the first time I've seen your question.
I have plenty of reasons not to cheat. I gave my word. I wouldn't want to hurt my husband. The trust I've regained isn't worth losing everything over. I enjoy the respect of my husband. I could go on and on.
The thing is this: If you hadn't asked me personally what my opinion was on this, I probably wouldn't have answered. When I was answering the question as to why people cheat, it was to help people understand that while sometimes it's NOT their fault that a partner cheats, other times they DO have to share the blame.
If your partner has reached out every way they know how to communicate their unhappiness, and you don't respond to that, or make changes---well, then you're at least partly at fault when the cheating happens, because you didn't work on your relationship yourself until it fell apart, or until it actually affected YOU. (I am, by the way,using the general "you" here, not pointing fingers at anyone). In any case, when people are asking the "why do people cheat" question, they're trying to understand their own situation, where a partner has cheated on them. I'm just trying to help them understand the OTHER side of things, simply because I've been there, and it might actually help in repairing a relationship.
But as to why people do NOT cheat---well, there are as many reasons for that as there are people. Trust, love, respect, and keeping your word would probably be the biggest answers. But... who is that helping? If someone came here and said "I'm thinking about cheating", my advice would ALWAYS be to try something else. I'm not exactly an advocate of cheating, here!
So... in my rambling "need more coffee" way, my answer to why more people haven't answered your question is that your question is more for curiosity, or for feeling people out on how they feel about cheating, rather than being someone who is here genuinely confused about their relationship situation. And while the topic really does deal with marriage, you'd be more likely to get a spirited discussion in Member Discussions, which is really what you're kind of looking for here.
NeedKarma
Oct 22, 2008, 07:58 AM
I'll also go for Respect and Self-Respect on why I don't cheat.
donf
Oct 23, 2008, 05:39 AM
Synnen,
Your sixth paragraph struck me as well as most of your response.
To para.#6 I would add that the reasons people cheat are probably equal to the number of reasons there are not to cheat.
Opinion, when things get bad in a relationship you to look around for solace and are proably to be willing to pay any price for the peace it brings. It still comes down to your choice but I do understand the, "Why".
For me, I can never say I don't understand or "I didn't think." I know exactly exactly how Bon would feel.
Synnen
Oct 23, 2008, 05:58 AM
No.
I want to make sure you understand this.
I cheated ONCE.
I would never do so again.
I had my reasons for cheating, at the time, and most of them came down to "I was doing all of the work in the relationship for someone who was ungrateful, neglectful, obviously wasn't listening, and who wasn't meeting MY needs". Don't get me wrong---I TRIED to communicate, TRIED to get through to him, and TRIED to make things better. I didn't plan on cheating, as I doubt many people do.
You have to remember that I (and probably most people who cheat, really) really and truly felt that he wouldn't care if I cheated, since he didn't care about anything ELSE in our relationship.
The people that truly can't understand how anyone could EVER cheat have never been in the position where you're in a long term relationship with someone who doesn't even seem to know you're there most of the time.
Look, I know what you're saying, and yes, it would hurt my husband too deeply for me to even consider cheating on him. But once upon a time, I was hurting BECAUSE he didn't seem to care what I did, who I was, or how I felt.
NowWhat
Oct 23, 2008, 06:05 AM
The people that truly can't understand how anyone could EVER cheat have never been in the position where you're in a long term relationship with someone who doesn't even seem to know you're there most of the time.
I truly can't understand it. I have been in that relationship that you are describing. I didn't cheat. He did. And still I can't understand it.
And for what I am about to say - I mean no disrespect to you at all - please don't take offense because this is my opinion.
It seems when you (the general you) list off the reasons of why you cheat - you are making excuses or trying to justify your behavior.
Looking for something to make the action okay. And that the person being cheated ON deserved it in someway. I can honestly say that I was trying everything I knew how to do to make my marriage better and it still happened. I can also honestly say - I DID NOT deserve what I got!
Again, just my opinion.
helpstep
Oct 23, 2008, 12:07 PM
No.
I want to make sure you understand this.
I cheated ONCE.
I would never do so again.
I had my reasons for cheating, at the time, and most of them came down to "I was doing all of the work in the relationship for someone who was ungrateful, neglectful, obviously wasn't listening, and who wasn't meeting MY needs". Don't get me wrong---I TRIED to communicate, TRIED to get through to him, and TRIED to make things better. I didn't plan on cheating, as I doubt many people do.
You have to remember that I (and probably most people who cheat, really) really and truly felt that he wouldn't care if I cheated, since he didn't care about anything ELSE in our relationship.
The people that truly can't understand how anyone could EVER cheat have never been in the position where you're in a long term relationship with someone who doesn't even seem to know you're there most of the time.
Look, I know what you're saying, and yes, it would hurt my husband too deeply for me to even consider cheating on him. But once upon a time, I was hurting BECAUSE he didn't seem to care what I did, who I was, or how I felt.
I think what you're saying makes total sense and I thank you for your insight. Based on what you said do you think it is best to share with your spouse you cheated, or pretend it never happened. I ask because if the person didn't plan on cheating, it happened, and they don't plan on doing it again... is it worth telling your spouse and hurting the relationship or do you just move on and act like it never happened?
simoneaugie
Oct 23, 2008, 01:06 PM
Negativity? Just turn on the TV. People are attracted to horror stories whether they want to help with it or not. They gossip about horror as if it was something separate from them.
Non-cheaters and cheaters are both human. We change as time goes by. Our relationships change too. Some choose the high road no matter what. The ones that cheat, and then ask for help, get attention...
Don't support sensationalism. Choose the high road in all aspects of life, especially when attempting to help another. It's about motives and self-assesment, none of us have it right all the time.
"Life's a journey, not a destination. And how high can you fly with broken wings?"
kloey13
Oct 23, 2008, 01:20 PM
I have never once cheated. I have been cheated on plenty of times. I was with the father to my daughter for 2 years and he cheated on me over 50 times. I ended up leaving him though. After I learned that he was never going to change. I don't beloeve in cheating.. if you wouldn't want to be hurt, then why do it to someone else?
LearningAsIGo
Oct 30, 2008, 12:10 PM
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450donn agrees: not necessairly in that order, but good enough.
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No, not necessarily in that order. ;)
vagentlemanroa
Oct 30, 2008, 01:38 PM
Men cheat for sex. They marry one women and they get another over time. No oral, no sex. She is cold. Blames you for all the world's troubles.
Females cheat for a relationship. Since they blame the spouse for their troubles, they need a relationship with a man. Or their man is too busy for them. They need someone to make them feel alive again.
Marriage is more about a commitment and respect than love and sex anyway. It is a business or partnership of two people raising a family together.
Women never leave a guy unless there is one in the wings. 90% of the time.
Synnen
Oct 30, 2008, 01:47 PM
Men cheat for sex. They marry one women and they get another over time. No oral, no sex. She is cold. Blames you for all the world's troubles.
Females cheat for a relationship. Since they blame the spouse for their troubles, they need a relationship with a man. Or their man is too busy for them. They need someone to make them feel alive again.
Marriage is more about a commitment and respect than love and sex anyway. It is a business or partnership of two people raising a family together.
Women never leave a guy unless there is one in the wings. 90% of the time.
And it's only the OTHER 10% that they leave because he's cheating, or beating the living daylights out of them, or never around, or doesn't believe in making a relationship work, or whatever?
"MEN only leave a girl if they're getting sex elsewhere. 90% of the time" ---that's the turned around version of what your'e saying.
I guess I'd better point out that I'm just pointing out why I think you're wrong.
vagentlemanroa
Oct 30, 2008, 01:54 PM
It is true that some bad guy abuse their spouse. But cheating is the question here.
Men will cheat if the old lady at home is not taking care of business. Ladies need to take care of their men. Same with men, take care of the lady in your live.
Men and women that cheat are more worried about themselves and not the spouse.
donf
Oct 31, 2008, 09:42 AM
Actually, this thread is about reasons not to cheat.
vagentlemanroa
Oct 31, 2008, 10:45 AM
I should cheat on her. No sex and complains no matter how much I work. Certain sexual acts are forbidden now and I am only 39 years old! She married someone highly sexed-up and now since we are married she thinks if I want sex that it is dirty. I would never have gotten married to her if she were not pregnant 16 years ago. I still want sex one or twice a day. If I could have it a couple times a week fine. But once every two months, five minutes in missionary-no foreplay, hand job, or bjs anymore.
How do women expect a man to live without sex. Hell, if I was 75 I would understand. I am still young and successful.
If any would cheat it would be me. But marriage is about commitment to the other person and about putting your family before your own desires.
talaniman
Oct 31, 2008, 11:26 AM
Actually, this thread is about reasons not to cheat.
HOW ABOUT FEAR, that the wife would kill you if she thought you were sexing up some honey, as not all woman cry and accept bad behavior.
Some will actually try to put a hurting on you.
donf
Nov 3, 2008, 08:13 AM
VA gentleman,
I've been thinking about your situation and I have to pipe in my two cents.
First let me tell you that I appreciate the fact that you believe in fidelity.
I'm curious, you describe your wife in such harsh terms, why? Is it because of the sex issue alone or are there other issues.
How would you describe your wife's typical day?
How do you romance your wife? Have you ever come home from work and told her to take the night off and now you'll take care of the children.
Have you ever sent her to a local Spa/Beauty shop for a massage and make over (or whatever the gals call it). Flowers can lead to wonderful things.
Read some poetry to your wife (You won't choke on the words). Let your wife know how special she is to you. Appreciate her, she deserves it.
As far as I know, no one has ever died from lack of sex.
I'm married for over 40 years and there have been times when sex was the last thing my wife wanted, fortunately they were far apart.
Next time ask her how you can make sex more fun for her.
NowWhat
Nov 3, 2008, 08:24 AM
I should cheat on her. No sex and complains no matter how much I work. Certain sexual acts are forbidden now and I am only 39 years old! She married someone highly sexed-up and now since we are married she thinks if I want sex that it is dirty. I would never have gotten married to her if she were not pregnant 16 years ago. I still want sex one or twice a day. If I could have it a couple times a week fine. But once every two months, five minutes in missionary-no foreplay, hand job, or bjs anymore.
How do women expect a man to live without sex. Hell, if I was 75 I would understand. I am still young and successful.
If any would cheat it would be me. But marriage is about commitment to the other person and about putting your family before your own desires.
I wonder if your wife knows that you would not have married her if she wasn't pregnant. I wonder how that would make her feel? Does she sense it? I don't know if I would jump in the sack with someone who may hold some resentment for me.
What do you do for her? Are you meeting all of her needs? Maybe she is overworked and underappreciated. You understand that feeling don't you? Maybe if you did things for her OUTSIDE of the bedroom - she would be more willling to try things INSIDE the bedroom. Women are weird that way! If you can't be bothered to do things for her when the lights are on - why should she be bothered to do things for you when the lights are off?
Synnen
Nov 3, 2008, 09:26 AM
Actually, I find it interesting that it was only 16 years ago that you HAD to get married.
I was pregnant 17 years ago, and there was no reason WHATSOEVER that the father of the child and I felt like we HAD to marry.
It's not like there's a social stigma on single parenthood these days.
Honestly, though---If I were your wife, I'd withhold it from you too. You talk about how hard YOU work, but what about her? Does she have a job? She a full time mom? Do you ever take over the parenting side of things--making sure your kids get to soccer, hockey, cheerleading, doctor's appointments, dental appointments, get their homework done and get to know their friends so that you know who they're hanging out with?
You ever take over EVERYTHIGN for a week, so that she can primp and feel like a girl?
How about romancing her---do you do it? With the resentment you have about sex, I'm betting you don't. And I ALSO bet that anytime you do something nice for her, you get mad if you don't get sex in return. She's your WIFE, not a prostitute. Buying sex with romance isn't the way to do it. Buying INTIMACY with romance IS.
Every time you make it clear that you want to be with HER, and ONLY her, that she's the one that turns you on, that you're content to touch her, that you want to please her, that it's about HER---you're making a step in the right direction.
simoneaugie
Nov 3, 2008, 09:51 AM
What do you do for her? Are you meeting all of her needs? Maybe she is overworked and underappreciated. You understand that feeling don't you? Maybe if you did things for her OUTSIDE of the bedroom - she would be more willling to try things INSIDE the bedroom. Women are weird that way! If you can't be bothered to do things for her when the lights are on - why should she be bothered to do things for you when the lights are off?
Women are weird that way, yep. My husband and I just ran into this issue. He wanted to do it, I didn't. After considering the situation, I told him why I wasn't in the mood... Clutter! He listened, then suggested that we take on the cleaning first thing in the morning. I was relieved that the clutter was, although overwhelming, not something I had to handle alone. Sex was great. He got up the next morning and spent 2 hours cleaning and reorganizing with me. Sex is wonderful with someone who does not see me as the servant, or the enemy. Cheating is the farthest thing from my mind.
Alty
Nov 3, 2008, 09:53 AM
To anser the original question.
I don't cheat because I love my husband, I respect him and I would never want to hurt him.
Am I attracted to other men, you betcha, I'm married, not dead. But I would never, ever risk what I have by cheating with someone.
Choosing to remain faithful to your spouse is one of the only things we as human beings can choose. There is no such thing as accidentally having an affair, that is a choice, and it's your to make.
I choose to honor my marriage vows, and to treat my husband the way I want to be treated, with enough respect that I would never step out of my marriage.
NowWhat
Nov 3, 2008, 12:52 PM
Women are weird that way, yep. My husband and I just ran into this issue. He wanted to do it, I didn't. After considering the situation, I told him why I wasn't in the mood...Clutter! He listened, then suggested that we take on the cleaning first thing in the morning. I was relieved that the clutter was, although overwhelming, not something I had to handle alone. Sex was great. He got up the next morning and spent 2 hours cleaning and reorganizing with me. Sex is wonderful with someone who does not see me as the servant, or the enemy. Cheating is the farthest thing from my mind.
Wouldn't life be so much easier if men really understood that! I think women find the intimacy in little things. Not sex - but if our men do something like help around the house or do nice, unexpected things. And not so they can get "laid" but because they love us.
MrzJohnson26
Oct 30, 2011, 09:08 AM
The reason I don't cheat on my husband even thoug 3 years ago when we first got married he cheaed on me, but I love him so much that I couldn't do to him what he did to me, and I also agree with LearningAsIGo.. Love and respect are sometimes enough reasons not to cheat on your spouse