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Choux
Oct 11, 2008, 10:01 AM
Last night, John McCain *scolded* a radical right wing woman who accused Obama of being an Arab and "scaring her".
McCain and Palin are drawing audiences who are predominately from the radical right wing haters, not regular independents and republicans. They are an angry mob and nothing more. They come to be riled up and shout obsenities from the audience to the speaker's hatemongering... HE'S A TERRORIST, KILL HIM, and other terrible comments.
Well, McCain's and Palin's hatemongering is scaring me. America is a country with a history of assassination and we have millions of right wing haters just waiting for the green light to act on their evil feelings.
Galveston1
Oct 11, 2008, 10:23 AM
Last night, John McCain *scolded* a radical right wing woman who accused Obama of being an Arab and "scaring her".
McCain and Palin are drawing audiences who are predominately from the radical right wing haters, not regular independents and republicans. They come to be riled up and shout obsenities from the audience to the speaker's hatemongering....HE'S A TERRORIST, KILL HIM, and other terrible comments.
Well, McCain's and Palin's hatemongering is scaring me. America is a country with a history of assassination and we have millions of right wing haters just waiting for the green light to act on their evil feelings.
Where are you coming up with this mis-information?
Choux
Oct 11, 2008, 10:27 AM
I watch it happening LIVE on cable television.
excon
Oct 11, 2008, 10:35 AM
Hello Choux:
Well, he didn't SCOLD her when she said Obama was an Arab. He politely corrected her. Gal, you should be happy that he showed some character.
I guess his smear tactics were working too good. Plus, the town hall structure was BOUND to bring this question to him, and it did. To his credit, McCain stood up, and in the process, hoisted himself up on his own petard..
Poor John.
excon
Choux
Oct 11, 2008, 10:47 AM
Ex I, too, was so glad to see him show some of his former self as a guy with character... but he has fallen so far in his screwy Presidential Campaign. Fallen to a rable rouser for radical right wing haters.
Maybe he can redeem himself after the election by helping Obama in the banking crisis and the stock market crash.
tomder55
Oct 13, 2008, 07:18 AM
For years the left has been ranting and railing against the right, threatening to "take to the streets", and actually taking it to the streets in angry protests .No one was very much concerned about their rhetoric or tone. There were more than one play or movie as an example that had a central theme as the assassination of President Bush .More than one comparison of President Bush to terrorists or Hitler etc.
Now the right started to get angry and the left now thinks anger is bad? Lol McCain did the right thing perhaps but do you think Obama and the Obots will force their followers to tone it down also ? I kind of doubt it. For every attendee at a McCain rally that goes over the top I can find hundreds of over the top comments almost daily just on the Daily Kooks blog.
And how about actual acts of violence or destruction ?
At 1:43am on Saturday morning, Portland Fire & Rescue's Investigators arrested two people. They burned a campaign sign of McCain using Molotov cocktails, located at 7956 SE 17th Ave. causing only minimal damage. After a thorough interview and investigation of the case, they were both charged for:
Manufacturing of a destructive device
Possession of a destructive device
Both were charged with four counts for each felony offense, for a total of eight charges for each, and one was charged with reckless burning.
Internet Information Network (http://www.pdxinfo.net/IIN/press-releases.php?RegionID=1&Testing=0&PressReleaseID=22053&Alert)=
Vandals spray-painted the words “Republican means slavery” on the door of the York County GOP campaign headquarters overnight Friday.
Party volunteers called police after discovering the message when they arrived at the office on Rock Hill's Oakland Avenue. The vandals also stole about 45 candidate signs from the front yard and spray-painted over a banner that carried a picture of Republican presidential nominee John McCain. Their messages included lettering and symbols sometimes used by gangs.
The Herald | HeraldOnline.com - Vandals strike York County GOP headquarters - Rock Hill, SC (http://www.heraldonline.com/109/story/877049.html)
Or will Obama tone down his rhetoric ?
"I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors," ..."I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face."
Or perhaps tell officials who support him that the Alien and Sedition Act is long ago defunct .
In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Obama that were "false."
NeedKarma
Oct 13, 2008, 07:46 AM
The McCain / Palin mob:
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tomder55
Oct 13, 2008, 07:56 AM
YouTube - Liberal Outrage: A Pro-McCain March In Manhattan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI)
tomder55
Oct 13, 2008, 07:59 AM
Speaking of ugly politics
Politics in Canada turn ugly - and dangerous - International Herald Tribune (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/09/america/toronto.php)
excon
Oct 13, 2008, 08:06 AM
Hello tom:
I don't know. I musta missed the Obama supporter calling for McCain to be killed. I didn't hear 'em calling McCain any inflamitory names, either. Oh, there was booing... but booing and calling for his death ain't the same. To bad it IS to YOU, tom.
excon
tomder55
Oct 13, 2008, 08:19 AM
Clearly you did not read the 1st paragraph I wrote. I guess it is OK to say those things about a sitting President ?
tomder55
Oct 13, 2008, 10:47 AM
From the great Victor Davis Hanson
A couple of thoughts: the George Bush, Sr. / Willie Horton campaign was far tougher; so were the Bush 2000/2004 efforts. If anything, McCain's campaign is subdued in comparison to what we've seen on both sides in past years.
Obama and his surrogates have repeatedly engaged in racial politics (as Bill Clinton lamented when in fury he denounced the "race card"). When there was never evidence that McCain was using race as a wedge issue, it was clear Obama most surely was--preemptively, on at least two occasions--warning Americans he would soon be the victim of opposition racial stereotyping.
His surrogates like Biden and those in the Senate continue to link legitimate worries about Obama's past with racism. Second, for about 3 months all we've heard are references to McCain's age, with adjectives and phrases like confused, can't remember any more, disturbed, lost his bearings, etc.
Moreover, so far, McCain supporters have not broken into Biden's email, or accused Biden of being a Nazi, or accused anyone of not bearing one of their own children, or photo-shopped grotesque pictures of Obama on the Internet (as in the Atlantic magazine case). I don't think deranged McCain supporters in Hollywood or television almost daily are quoted as damning Obama in unusually crude terms. Nor are white racist ministers calling McCain a 'messiah' or McCain operatives fraudulently swarming voter registration centers. And on and on.
Obama, as I have said ad nauseam, has brilliantly prepped the battlefield to such a degree that a Farrakhan endorsement or surrogates calling Palin a quasi-Nazi or a bimbo, or smearing McCain as near senile is irrelevant; yet one screamer in a crowd of tens of thousands is proof of McCain's and Palin's racism and hatred.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/jumping_ship.html
speechlesstx
Oct 13, 2008, 01:30 PM
Hanson is right. The hypocrisy is completely lost on the left, it's the crowd that can complain about this alleged threat to kill Obama with a suggestion to lynch the guy, "This man should NOT be prosecuted...He should be grabbed and dropped in the middle of Compton at hign noon (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7334606#7334676) with a sign around his neck explaining what he said."
Ex, these are the people that can respond to "boos" from the crowd with "it reminded me of - the scene from "Oh, Brother, Where Art Thou?". The scene was a KKK rally in which they were ready to hang a black man (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-does-nothing-as-cr_n_132366.html)."
These are the same people that complain of "messages filled with hate," fear-mongering, race baiting, bigotry, "a cancer, so reminiscent of the 60's race wars," and yet celebrate the unhinged Sandra Bernhard's message as "in the end, oddly and subtly... positive."
In fact, the play wears its politically VERY correct heart on its sleeve with its indictment of America as "A Man’s World, It’s a White Man’s World, It’s a F–ked Up White Man’s Racist World" and can only be suggested to be racist in its content if one is hell-bent on protecting White Folk for Sandra’s blistering indictment. When Sandra warns Sarah Palin not to come into Manhattan lest she get gang-raped by some of Sandra’s big black brothers, she’s being provocative, combative, humorous, and yes, let’s allow, disgusting.
This is the same crowd that can call Madonna "amazing" (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4606041.ece) for showing "images of destruction (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/25/DDFU12HNFT.DTL), global warming, Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, Zimbabwe's authoritarian President Robert Mugabe - and the presumptive Republican presidential nominee" at a concert...while of course showing a sequence with "slain Beatle John Lennon, climate activist Al Gore, Mahatma Gandhi and finally Barack Obama" as the crowd goes wild.
This selective outrage is appalling.
Galveston1
Oct 13, 2008, 04:43 PM
Can anyone say for SURE that those isolated idiots screaming are NOT Obama plants?? That would be typical of the Democrat play book.
You are right about one thing though. There is a lot of anger out here, and it is directed against news agencies that have prostituted themselves to the liberal cause and can no longer even tell the difference between truth and fiction. There is no such thing with them as objectivity. They should be openly on the payroll of the Democrat party.
There are a few who still give some balance but they are vastly outnumbered.
speechlesstx
Oct 14, 2008, 02:15 PM
Is the media reporting on Obama supporters (http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2008/Oct/10/cuntees.wow) wearing these shirts? Are you Obama supporters here going to have as much outrage over this (http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html) as one guy at a McCain rally?
http://worldofwonder.net/images4/wowersinteesjpeg-tm.jpg
Or how about this Halloween display portraying McCain as a klansman (http://www.stargazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081014/NEWS01/810140328&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL) chasing Obama? Where's the outrage?
http://cmsimg.stargazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=BM&Date=20081014&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=810140328&Ref=AR&MaxW=180&Border=0
NeedKarma
Oct 14, 2008, 03:01 PM
Is the media reporting on Obama supporters (http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2008/Oct/10/cuntees.wow) wearing these shirts? Are you Obama supporters here going to have as much outrage over this (http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-supporters-call-sarah-palin-cnt.html) as one guy at a McCain rally? That word shouldn't't bother you - that's what McCain calls his own wife.
BABRAM
Oct 14, 2008, 03:47 PM
McCain finally showed some fortitude by grabbing the microphone and shutting up one his many racist supporters. That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect.
speechlesstx
Oct 14, 2008, 05:01 PM
McCain finally showed some fortitude by grabbing the microphone and shutting up one his many racist supporters. That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect.
And your proof is what?
speechlesstx
Oct 14, 2008, 05:02 PM
That word shouldn't't bother you - that's what McCain calls his own wife.
Try making sense, NK.
BABRAM
Oct 14, 2008, 05:08 PM
And your proof is what?
We just discussed the older woman that didn't like Obama because she thought he was an Arab. Pull your head out. ;)
speechlesstx
Oct 15, 2008, 05:03 AM
We just discussed the older woman that didn't like Obama because she thought he was an Arab. Pull your head out. ;)
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?
That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect.
BABRAM
Oct 15, 2008, 01:01 PM
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?
Huh? I welcome you to the real United States where even this board reflects prejudice and ignorance. Wake up!!
Former McCain Supporter: McCain Is "Unleashing the Monster of American Prejudice" | Rights and Liberties | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/rights/102837/former_mccain_supporter:_mccain_is_%22unleashing_t he_monster_of_american_prejudice%22/)
YouTube - Racist McCain Palin Supporters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIgv992NZs0)
McCain, Palin turn to risky politics :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Mary Mitchell (http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1211242,CST-NWS-mitch09.article)
Racism Revealed At McCain/Palin Rallies / Queerty (http://www.queerty.com/racism-revealed-at-mccainpalin-rallies-20081007/)
McCain camp defends the behavior? - First Read - msnbc.com (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1529529.aspx)
Jeffrey Feldman: Is Palin Trying To Incite Violence Against Obama? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/is-palin-trying-to-incite_b_132534.html)
Oxdown Gazette » McCain heard the man shout “Kill him!” at HIS rally.. (http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/554)
TPM Election Central | Talking Points Memo | Palin Supporter On Obama: "Kill Him" (http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palin_supporter_on_obama_kill.php)
Think Progress » McCain offers no response to supporter who yells out that Obama is a 'terrorist.' (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/mccain-obama-terrorist/)
McCain Scolds Ignorant and Racist Supporters - Topic Lexington, N.C. forums (http://forums.the-dispatch.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511037877/m/3671026487/r/6231017487)
Obama Thanks McCain for Admonishing Supporters - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/obama-thanks-mccain-for-toning-down-supporters/)
Keith Olbermann Calls on McCain to Suspend His Campaign - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought (http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=5178)
speechlesstx
Oct 15, 2008, 01:55 PM
Huh?! I welcome you to the real United States where even this board reflects prejudice and ignorance. Wake up!!!
Uh, repeatedly citing the same 3 incidents is hardly proof of "That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect." Add to the Obama supporters wearing “Sarah Palin is a c***” shirts, the KKK Halloween display, Sandra Bernhard’s threat of “gang rape” and Madonna’s comparing McCain to Hitler that I posted earlier:
PDS, Harlem-Style: Rangel Calls Palin 'Disabled' (http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/09/20/pds-harlem-style-rangel-calls-palin-disabled)
Canadian columnist: ‘White Trash’ Palin Has ‘Porn Actress Look’ (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/09/19/cbc-s-mallick-white-trash-palin-has-porn-actress-look-smart-people-fl)
Abort Palin graffiti in Seattle ( http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/29/abort-sarah-palin/)
http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1abortp.jpg
Randi Rhodes: Palin can't be trusted with teen boys (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75266)
Maine TV anchor is Sarah Palin lookalike - getting "hate mail and nasty phone calls" ( http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2008/09/23/20080923palin-lookalike0923-ON.html)
The Most Offensive Palin Hit Yet (http://wjnoblog.com/2008/10/the-most-offensive-palin-hit-yet/)
Rep. Alcee Hastings: “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/florida-congressman-points-to-palin-to-rally-jews-to-obama/)
BABRAM
Oct 15, 2008, 02:19 PM
Steve, you do this to yourself all the time.
Here's a direct quote from you...
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?
Obviously she is not. BTW it was her stupid prejudice statement that got her recognized, not asking a question. Now if I didn't give you a few extra sources, you'd just k'vetch that it was unreliable information. You do more good for the Obama campaign than you realize. Barack should be sending you a check for all the help you constantly provide him.
speechlesstx
Oct 15, 2008, 03:18 PM
Bobby, if you wouldn't move the goal post on every play you might be able to keep up.
BABRAM
Oct 15, 2008, 04:27 PM
Steve, do you have attention deficit disorder, or is it hypertension? Look at what just transpired:
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?
I answered with a several links in recent news. You were mistaken.
In reply you then chose to post a few links concerning idiots against McCain/Palin that have taken it too personal. Now who moved the goal posts? How hyprocitical of you once again. If you want to skip talking about the prejudices of some McCain supporters in their ignorance against Obama, that's fine. Just let me know. I'm up for any discussion. Just say so! But don't lie and say I moved the goal posts. Stop asking people questions if you don't want to hear the facts.
speechlesstx
Oct 15, 2008, 08:44 PM
Steve, do you have attention deficit disorder, or is it hypertension?
Still with the personal attacks and avoidance of the facts which show my memory is just fine. The challenge to you was and still is to prove your outrageous claim:
"That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect."
It's very simple Bobby, neither one woman asking a stupid question (or making a stupid statement or whatever) or repeated references to the same few morons proves your claim that McCain set up these "timely outbursts" for "that whole week" or for any time at all. You expect us to believe that McCain would purposely stage idiotic BS like that - as if it would somehow benefit him no less - in spite of the fact that he repudiated these people to the boos of some in the crowd. How gullible do you really think we are, Bobby?
You can get your panties in a wad and take your pathetic cheap shots at me and every other conservative around all you want, it just puts you in the same category as the eleven distinctly different disturbing examples of hatred, intolerance, arrogance and bigotry from the left I've referred to here. You can have the three idiots you're complaining about, too... you all make a really nice match.
speechlesstx
Oct 16, 2008, 10:06 AM
Here's one of your claims refuted:
Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded (http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_ .html)
By Andrew M. Seder
Staff Writer
SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.
The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."
News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.
Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.
“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.
He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.
Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”
“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”
Hackett said he did not hear the remark.
Slavoski said Singleton was interviewed Wednesday and stood by his story but couldn’t give a description of the man because he didn’t see him he only heard him.
When contacted Wednesday afternoon, Singleton referred questions to Times-Tribune Metro Editor Jeff Sonderman. Sonderman said, “We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is.”
Slavoski said the agents take such threats or comments seriously and immediately opened an investigation but after due diligence “as far as we’re concerned it’s closed unless someone comes forward.” He urged anyone with knowledge of the alleged incident to call him at 346-5781. “We’ll run at all leads,” he said.
NeedKarma
Oct 16, 2008, 10:24 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kill+him&search_type=)
Search results for "kill him"
speechlesstx
Oct 16, 2008, 11:42 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kill+him&search_type=)
Search results for "kill him"
LOLOL, you really, really must think we're stupid. Neither the quantity of reports or angry exclamation marks above the video make it true. The first link from Democracy Now claimed it was so. The second from that moonbat Rhandi Rhodes, started with "and there is no audio of this." The third said "there have been reports." Well guess what NK, the Secret Service refuted the reports. It's really very simple.
NeedKarma
Oct 16, 2008, 11:50 AM
Well if the secret service said it never happened then I'm glad.
speechlesstx
Oct 16, 2008, 11:51 AM
The reports of vile, hate filled Obama supporters I listed here (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/john-mccain-scolds-radical-right-wing-supporter-268190-2.html#post1319260) and here (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/john-mccain-scolds-radical-right-wing-supporter-268190-3.html#post1323249) are true. As are these images of the "elevated political discourse (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/photos-of-sarah-palins-high-minded-protesters)" from Obama supporters at a Palin rally in California:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/2945292066_4e603f0096_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2945291526_54bb7087ae_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/2945351912_e93661ea79_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/2945291610_5090f48df6_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2944426387_b23b9293ae_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2945292210_8fcf727804_o.jpg
NeedKarma
Oct 16, 2008, 12:21 PM
Do we have to play the "who can post the most images" contest Steve? 'Cause I can fill this thread up with images of vile, hate filled McCain supporters.
Geez dude, let go of your anger towards half the world.
spitvenom
Oct 16, 2008, 12:48 PM
Someone yelling out "Kill him" or "off with his head" (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/08/1517943.aspx) are not along the same lines with "we need smart not pretty" or I vote with my brain not my V****.
I have been to a few Obama rallies now going back to the primaries (matter of fact I was part of the 60,000 in Philly last weekend) and I have Never heard a single person yell out kill Palin or Off with McCain's head or anything remotely near that type of hate. And to be honest I was waiting for it since it is Philadelphia were are FAR from the nicest people in the world.
There was even a guy Holding a McCain Palin sign and the only thing anyone said to him was Vote Obama.
spitvenom
Oct 16, 2008, 01:09 PM
Now this is real hate. (http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation/elections/presidential/20081016_ap_gopgroupdepictsobamawithwatermelonribs .html)
Merris
Oct 16, 2008, 01:29 PM
Spitvenom, I'm with you. I went to an Obama rally of about 20,000 in the south and there were two dudes holding McCain signs and everyone sort of pretended they were... invisible. It was great.
I think that the greater point, though, is that history has had its share of lynch mobs and witch hunts. We have seen what happens when a largely uneducated mob gets together under the assumption that they are being "had" especially if it's by a person who looks different or whose name is different. Sarah Palin's rhetoric and false accusations are going to end up getting someone killed. All of you (Tom-- we've talked before :) who are batting for the republicans keep putting up examples of satiric art and people with signs that would normally appear at any political rally and crowds yelling Boo (scary!). What's going on at the Republican gatherings is quite a different animal because there is a growing racist sentiment by folks who think their violence is justified by God and that an act of violence would be seen as an act of patriotism not to mention that a good many of them have their own private arsenal of handguns and shotguns to carry out said violence.
Honestly, my stomach is feeling a little nervous for Obama's safety. I see him as the only hope for the American people right now. McCain did well to repudiate the woman's statement-- even though he was booed by his own crowd. But Sarah Palin on the other hand is proving just as deplorable as she is ignorant. She is an embarrassment to our country.
speechlesstx
Oct 16, 2008, 02:06 PM
[QUOTE=NeedKarma;1324786]Geez dude, let go of your anger towards half the world.
Another nice – but futile - attempt at turning the tables on me, NK. I am not the one expressing anger…it’s in the images and references I provided of Obama supporters displaying their bigotry, intolerance and hatred. I’m not the one calling Palin a c**t and frantically spreading unfounded rumors of McCain supporters shouting “kill him!!!!!”
speechlesstx
Oct 16, 2008, 02:09 PM
Someone yelling out "Kill him" or "off with his head" (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/08/1517943.aspx) are not along the same lines with "we need smart not pretty" or I vote with my brain not my V****.
Nobody said it was “along the same lines.” But my examples are fact and not fiction…just a minor difference.
NeedKarma
Oct 16, 2008, 02:12 PM
I’m not the one calling Palin a c**t As I mentioned earlied your fearless leader McCain calls his wife that and you don't "repudiate" (McCain's new big word) it.
speechlesstx
Oct 16, 2008, 02:17 PM
Now this is real hate. (http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation/elections/presidential/20081016_ap_gopgroupdepictsobamawithwatermelonribs .html)
Which of us among you do you think would ever approve of that? I don't, it was at the least irresponsible, but reading the account you provided hardly falls under the category of "real hate." She took responsibility and apologized, what else do you want? Should I continue to hammer Jack Murtha for calling the western half of his state racist?
BABRAM
Oct 16, 2008, 03:44 PM
Still with the personal attacks and avoidance of the facts which show my memory is just fine. The challenge to you was and still is to prove your outrageous claim:
And I did. NK did. Excon has. Spitvenom has. Link after link of evidence. If want to bury your head up McCain's tuchus go right ahead. You're the one that ends up stinking.
It's very simple Bobby, neither one woman asking a stupid question (or making a stupid statement or whatever) or repeated references to the same few morons proves your claim that McCain set up these "timely outbursts" for "that whole week" or for any time at all. You expect us to believe that McCain would purposely stage idiotic BS like that - as if it would somehow benefit him no less - in spite of the fact that he repudiated these people to the boos of some in the crowd. How gullible do you really think we are, Bobby?
There's not a "we" here. Nobody else has been dumb enough to challenge the obvious evidence. Besides now you've cganged your tune to say a "few." Here's a direct quote,
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how? Notice your argument claimed, "one women." You were mistaken.
You can get your panties in a wad and take your pathetic cheap shots at me and every other conservative around all you want, it just puts you in the same category as the eleven distinctly different disturbing examples of hatred, intolerance, arrogance and bigotry from the left I've referred to here. You can have the three idiots you're complaining about, too...you all make a really nice match.
Apparently nothings ever simple enough for Stevie. Link after link demonstrating the rhetoric coming out of McCain/Palin's pie holes stirred those prejudice (uneducated) supporters until McCain finally felt guilt (and embarrassment) by taking the mic from an older women. His negative approach is hurting his campaign. BTW to set the record straight, Elliot's the only educated conservative view that has been taking part on the board lately. Few other Republicans have had their shining moments. Tom is educated, but more moderate and Independent. You, on the other hand, are egotistical, an overbearing ignoramus, and hypocrite.
speechlesstx
Oct 16, 2008, 04:56 PM
You, on the other hand, are egotistical, an overbearing ignoramus, and hypocrite.
You know what Bobby? I want McCain to win this election - even if he isn't my first choice - but I don't want it bad enough to make up crap and attack people I respected even though we disagreed. So, you win. And if Obama wins, you'll absolutely deserve the disaster you get. Now go harass someone else.
BABRAM
Oct 16, 2008, 07:03 PM
You know what Bobby? I want McCain to win this election - even if he isn't my first choice - but I don't want it bad enough to make up crap and attack people I respected even though we disagreed. So, you win. And if Obama wins, you'll absolutely deserve the disaster you get. Now go harass someone else.
I don't think I deserved the disastrous presidency Dubya helped heap upon the public. While many voters chose him twice, I didn't even vote for him once. But we are one nation, and we all live with the consequences. At this point I'm not sure Houdini could get us at the mess, not to mention Obama. But I'm confident that McCain will not be an agent of change when he's the candidate that mirrors most often the policies of George W. Bush.
tomder55
Oct 17, 2008, 09:42 AM
http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/gm/2008/gm081014.gif (http://www.gocomics.com/glennmccoy/2008/10/14/#)
spitvenom
Oct 17, 2008, 10:31 AM
I know it was an honest mistake because who would think that putting a picture of a black man with watermelon fried chicken and ribs was racist. The entire election everyone was calling Obama an elitist so if she just wanted to make a joke shouldn't she have put Filet minion Lobster and ARUGULA?? Sorry Don't buy for a single second that "she didn't know it was racist" Please Helen Keller could see that it was racist
I don't know where you get this fiction from Speech because I have seen the video and heard it.
Also I do A LOT of work at in western PA and the N word is everyday common language. I was even called a N Lover because I said something to a guy about how him using it offends me. Murtha shouldn't have said what he said but it is the truth.
tomder55
Oct 17, 2008, 10:41 AM
Abscam Jack showed a lot of courage making blanket stereotype statements about his constituents. Hope they remind him of it Nov. 4.
speechlesstx
Oct 17, 2008, 11:27 AM
I know it was an honest mistake because who would think that putting a picture of a black man with watermelon fried chicken and ribs was racist. The entire election everyone was calling Obama an elitist so if she just wanted to make a joke shouldn't she have put Filet minion Lobster and ARUGULA?? Sorry Don't buy for a single second that "she didn't know it was racist" Please Helen Keller could see that it was racist
This woman from California - the most progressive state in the nation - had to know fried chicken and watermelon was offensive? Believe it or not many of us have grown up in non-racist atmospheres, we wish it would just go away. But no, the left and black "leaders" keep throwing it in our faces on a regular basis. How do you know this woman is not telling the truth?
I don't know where you get this fiction from Speech because I have seen the video and heard it.
As I said elsewhere in this thread to NK, who posted a Youtube search for the "kill him" comments, "The first link from Democracy Now claimed it was so. The second from that moonbat Rhandi Rhodes, started with "and there is no audio of this." The third said "there have been reports." Well guess what NK, the Secret Service refuted the reports (http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_ .html). It's really very simple."
How did you get audio when no other news organization can seem to find it?
Also I do A LOT of work at in western PA and the N word is everyday common language. I was even called a N Lover because I said something to a guy about how him using it offends me. Murtha shouldn't have said what he said but it is the truth.
Seems Murtha, who should have known better, had to have publicity before apologizing. How dare a senator call half his own state racist, even if there is racism there? He just unfairly indicted half his own constituency and it damn sure wasn't a remark that should have ever been uttered by a "statesman."
spitvenom
Oct 17, 2008, 11:49 AM
13 seconds in you hear someone say KILL HIM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo)
spitvenom
Oct 17, 2008, 12:02 PM
Well lets see if she didn't mean for it to be racist why did she use a 10 FOOD STAMP instead of a 10 dollar bill. Out of ALL the foods in the world she used three that are a negative stereotype.
Sorry the food stamp, the KFC bucket, the ribs, and Watermelon are all negative stereotypes. You can act like you don't know that it is racist but deep down you know it is and so did she. They are the oldest stereotypes in this country. And if you don't know that you either grew up in a phone booth or you are lying.
speechlesstx
Oct 17, 2008, 12:36 PM
Well lets see if she didn't mean for it to be racist why did she use a 10 FOOD STAMP instead of a 10 dollar bill. Out of ALL the foods in the world she used three that are a negative stereotype.
Sorry the food stamp, the KFC bucket, the ribs, and Watermelon are all negative stereotypes. You can act like you don't know that it is racist but deep down you know it is and so did she. They are the oldest stereotypes in this country. And if you don't know that you either grew up in a phone booth or you are lying.
Spit, I said right off the bat that it was “at the least irresponsible” so I don’t see how you could suspect me of lying about knowing it was an insult. However, you’re asking me to further judge a woman I know nothing about other than she admitted her mistake and apologized. Should she be a marked woman the rest of her life? Where’s that liberal compassion I keep hearing about? We know that Murtha on the other hand DOES know better and has a pattern of making disparaging remarks - he deserves to be treated with skepticism.
excon
Oct 17, 2008, 12:40 PM
Hello Steve:
I don't know. You make it sound like calling somebody a racist, when the ARE, is worse than being racist in the first place.
But, like all good righty's, when you don't like the message, you blame the messenger.
excon
speechlesstx
Oct 17, 2008, 12:44 PM
13 seconds in you hear someone say KILL HIM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo)
I didn’t hear anyone say “kill him.” It’s like one of the comments on that page said concerning misheard rock lyrics, “'Scuse me while I kiss this guy...”
speechlesstx
Oct 17, 2008, 01:24 PM
Ex, you always have a way with words, even when they’re wrong. I’m not defending this woman, but I don’t know her enough to judge her so harshly as to say “now this is real hate” when all I have to go by here is an admission of error and an apology. Seems to me it’s more hateful for others that also don’t know her any more than that to reject her admission and apology and call her a racist anyway.
As for Murtha again, a man who is quite comfortable impugning others in public, I’m sure he was right about some of those constituents and true racism does need to be called out, but was it fair to those who aren’t racist?
speechlesstx
Oct 18, 2008, 06:47 AM
Tolerant libs react to a peaceful pro-McCain march
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excon
Oct 18, 2008, 07:53 AM
Hello:
People, people, people. You keep showing evidence that the two sides HATE each other... Duh!
Then you act surprised about it. The surprise I have, is that you're surprised. Where you been for the last 8 years?
excon
speechlesstx
Oct 18, 2008, 11:16 AM
Hello:
People, people, people. You keep showing evidence that the two sides HATE each other.... Duh!
Then you act surprised about it. The surprise I have, is that you're surprised. Where ya been for the last 8 years?
Oh I'm not surprised, ex. Nothing the left does surprises me...