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imran_2k12
Oct 11, 2008, 05:16 AM
Assalamualaikum,
This question is forwarded my hindu friend and want to ask me that if you giving me a single scientific reason about this matter then I will agree your talk? Kindly help me?
mani_jeddah
Oct 16, 2008, 06:19 AM
Of course Allah does exist, cause if there is no one who run this whole world system then how it is working...
Example
Quran said: "when a fly eat something u people never could get it back" before 1400 years and now the scholar find that the fly don't have that digest system as human it digest which it eats directly! So does hindu's have any sintific explanation in the religion?
Vote 4 my ans if it works
bashirlawal
Oct 18, 2008, 03:46 PM
Allah exist.Ask your Hindu friend to give you the scientific fact(s) that God Doesn't exist
ubharedev
Dec 16, 2008, 06:04 AM
Hi friends,
Existing of anything is determined by three qualities of that particular thing:
1) Visual (drushti)
2) Feel (Praman)
3) Quantity (same as volume)
While this ratio fulfilled by any particular thing that thing exist in the universe.
If this ratio is not fulfilled by any particular thing that is consider to be not having existence.
"Besides this the existing thing in the mind(fiction) is not consider to be existance of particular thing."
We can only imagine which is not true.
Let's take an example,
While you are walking through a dark corner of the street you may think that there is someone following you and suddenly some noise has come and look at what happened but you don't find anything there, except the noise is came out of any disturbance from animal or air(Air exist because we can feel(sense) and we can produce anywhere, also it occupies space and has volume).
Well above example says that it is your mind tells that something is there but nothing was there.It is the sense of fear and nothing else.
On the other hand, believing that some God exist is much like that the above example. It is your mind need and some part of fear(Part of fear means you can't do against that because someone told you to do that otherwise the God will punish you whatever the hell or heaven's matter).
See friends, my opinion is everything in the world should be ready to be proved scientifically.
I yet doesn't seen God so I don't believe in God and One thing I realize that it restrict me to think beyond my limitation or my intellectual.
Everybody has to take birth to come in the World.
My birth is because of my parent. Your birth is because of your parent.So from where did the God has come into the world wherever they are. They also should also have some source of their origin, like we human and our ancestors are monkeys.
"God has created the world" don't say this but who created the God??
Think by mind just keep your religion aside for a while.
I am not talking about Islam , I am talking about all religion that says that there is a God ruling the world.
If want to discuss please reply.
Discussion is a way to the truth.
Khuda hafis.
rachelcuryy08
Mar 27, 2009, 09:11 PM
I believe there is a god. Ask her who do she think wake her every morning,put food on the table,cloth her when she needs it. If that's not god then what is it?it make me cry just knowing that people don't except christ he died on the cross for our sins the and rose. Just knowing that that is all I will need to hear knowing if christ is real.
dlbismillah
Apr 6, 2009, 02:11 AM
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only!
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.
To rachel... christ didn't die for your sins, because if you consider christ to be God... who was "god" before christ was born right cause christmas is the birth of christ correct, so who was running the show prior to that... may Allah guide you sister cause even christ worshipped One God! And he was of the Muslim!
Anyway to prove to someone that God exists... just tell them look outside! Do you think allllll this creation what we see and what we don't see came by "magic" People... I am telling you believe in One God One Creator and you will not regret it :)
And to my hindu friends...
You are the One Creator of all the worlds,
And of that which moves and that which does not move,
You alone are fit for worship, You are the highest Teacher,
In all the worlds there is none equal to You.
- Bhagavad-Gita 11:43
ubharedev
Apr 6, 2009, 04:45 AM
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only!
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.
to rachel...christ didnt die for your sins, because if you consider christ to be God...who was "god" before christ was born right cause christmas is the birth of christ correct, so who was running the show prior to that...may Allah guide you sister cause even christ worshipped One God! and he was of the Muslim!
anyways to prove to someone that God exists...just tell them look outside! Do you think allllll this creation what we see and what we dont see came by "magic" People ... i am telling you believe in One God One Creator and you will not regret it :)
and to my hindu friends...
You are the One Creator of all the worlds,
and of that which moves and that which does not move,
You alone are fit for worship, You are the highest Teacher,
In all the worlds there is none equal to You.
- Bhagavad-Gita 11:43
Hi,
If the question is their existence,
Then definitely they need air, water, space, land, food,etc...
Then the question arise; Where are they?
Today we touched the Moon and Mars!! We goes to the center of the earth.
Are they MORTAL OR IMMORTAL?
Who gave birth to GOD, it is flawless truth that every creature has its own birth origin.
Even Jesus or Mohammed Paigambar took birth from Homo Sapien Sapien.
So, Is there any One More Supreme God who gave birth to this GODS(God suggested by Jesus and Mh. Paigambar).
Then there must be also have origin to that Supreme God, So on and on.
Everyone knows that how Human evolution has take place from Monkey to Men.
I don't think that we(our ancestors) devoted to any God when we(they) are apes.
Think on it(consciously) and reply.
carbonite
Apr 6, 2009, 06:43 PM
There is but one God.
Tell your friends to make a blade of grass or a tree out of nothing.
ubharedev
Apr 7, 2009, 12:25 AM
Not only I can grow a grass or tree but I can blossom it if I have seed, water, fertile soil and sunlight.
Ask any Biologist(Botany) that a plant can't grow without this pre requirement.
Just like a baby can't born without two people(male and female).
So everything on earth dependent on any other thing(s).
And important IMMORTAL FACT is that; we all subjected to death.
God entity has come from religion but if you convert yourself tomorrow to any other religion than your God also changes, isn't it?
And every religion has different God or Goddess.
Islam : 1 God , Name : "Allah"
Hindu : 33 crores , Name : Nobody knows (Where all this population is living, God knows? Which god, sorry I don't know!)
Christianity : 1 God , Name : "Yahuwa" (Sorry, if misspelled)
Jesus was the messenger of Yahuwa but now people take it for granted that Jesus is the God. He was the son of God, as described in the Bible.
And so many other religion is there.
So if God is there then it is almost sure that he is not living alone.
He may have his Goddess. Or children.
Carbonite, your ancestors supposed to be walk on hand or knees just like apes.
I don't know why, but if God created us than why he first let us be Apes than converted to today's look(humans).He supposed to be keep us like apes because today also there are apes in the Jungle or zoos.
Is this because of your last birth sins?
Imagine thousands year back a supermodel Miss Universe standing in front of the mirror and looking at herself.
She is glorify and gratify that she is the most beautiful APES in the world. Is it like that?
At that time was God there? Was our ancestors were that much of intelligent?
Our ancestors didn't know except eating, sleeping and itching and reproduction.
It is the time who brought us here?
In short; there was also a full flourish, pleasant beautiful world. Full of greens and water.
There were also blades of grass and tall big trees before Jesus and Mh. Paigambar.
So everything was there, now with us, and will be there till the end of the world.
carbonite
Apr 7, 2009, 05:02 AM
Who said anything about Jesus?
I said make a blade of grass not grow one from seed.
God has been around and created the world and all life on it long before he sent us Prophets.
vanilla123
Apr 8, 2009, 12:49 AM
well i dont beleve it so yeah
Peaceful1
Apr 12, 2009, 12:53 PM
"Proving" God exists is really not our purpose. We are only interested in providing clear statements based on facts and logic and then allow the individual decide for themselves who they would like to believe. There have always been people who believed in the existence of God and there have always been those who have denied in His existence. We must realize there are those who will never believe no matter how much proof or evidence we produce. The reason is some people don't want to believe in a Creator or Sustainer. They would not like to consider one day they will have to answer for their actions and for their refusal to acknowledge their Benefactor to whom they owe their very existence. We come to know it is not so much a matter of us trying to convey our beliefs as it is for them to set aside preconceived prejudices against proper belief. Meaning: this is really a matter of guidance from Above. If they refuse even with evident proofs in front of them, this is not between us and them; it is between them and their Creator. Again, it is not our job to "prove" anything to anyone. We only need to present the facts in truth and allow the listener to make up their own mind.
We just begin with simple logic. When something is right in front of our eyes it is difficult to deny it, right? Asking rhetorical questions can be very helpful in presenting our case. Begin by asking the question; "Can you prove you exist?" Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine what you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things He has created and the way He cares for things and sustains us, to know there is no doubt of His existence.
One approach is to suggest simple yet convincing experiments anyone could comprehend. For instance, say to someone, "Consider this the next time you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them? Of course not."
Another example is have them consider what might happen if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not.
Or ask someone to consider what it would be like if someone told us about a fast food restaurant operating itself without any people there? The food just cooks itself, files from the kitchen to the table and then when we are done, the dishes jump back the kitchen to wash themselves. This is too crazy for anyone to even think about.
After reflecting on all of the above, how could we look to the universe above us through a telescope or observe the cells in a microscope and then think all of this came about as a result of a "big bang" or some "accident"?
ubharedev
Apr 12, 2009, 10:53 PM
Peaceful1,
Whatever examples you have given doesn't proved that God exist.
It is only a production of imaginary/fictious mind.
Please take a look at this thread question.
Imran wants a scientific reason for God existence. If you can give that than you are right.
Don't take particular God like Allah or Jesus, let it be universal.
Example of scientific reason just to show you:
Without egg and/or sperm nobody would have a birth.
Peaceful1
Apr 13, 2009, 04:32 AM
Peaceful1,
Whatever examples you have given doesn't proved that God exist.
It is only a production of imaginary/fictious mind.
Please take a look at this thread question.
Imran wants a scientific reason for God existance. If you can give that than you are right.
Don't take particular God like Allah or Jesus, let it be universal.
Example of scientific reason just to show you:
Without egg and/or sperm nobody would have a birth.
For u it is only a producition of imaginary/fictious mind.
But whatever I said is fact. IF u don't want to believe don't, nobody force u to believe.
I can prove u scientifically from The Quran also.
For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God.
Many atheists demand a scientific proof for the existence of God.
Let us use scientific knowledge
If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don’t grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it.
Scientific Facts Mentioned in the Qur'an
Theory of Probability
In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.
A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.
Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.
At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.
The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.
Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.
The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.
Creator is the Author of the Qur'an
The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the ‘CREATOR’, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is ‘God’, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ‘ALLAH’.
Qur'an is a Book of Signs and not Science
Let me remind you that the Qur’an is not a book of Science, ‘S-C-I-E-N-C-E’ but a book of Signs ‘S-I-G-N-S’ i.e. a book of ayaats. The Qur’an contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. ‘signs’, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. I am not trying to prove that the Qur’an is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yard stick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified. For us Muslims the Qur’an is the Furqan i.e. criteria to judge right from wrong and the ultimate yardstick which is more superior to scientific knowledge.
But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. We do know that science many a times takes ‘U’ turns, therefore I have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions. Using the ultimate yardstick of the atheist, I am trying to prove to him that the Qur’an is the word of God and it contains the scientific knowledge which is his yardstick which was discovered recently, while the Qur’an was revealed 1400 year ago
Science is Eliminating Models of God but not God
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’).
Surah Fussilat:
"Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"
[Al-Quran 41:53]
ubharedev
Apr 13, 2009, 06:02 AM
For u it is only a producition of imaginary/fictious mind.
But whatever I said is fact. IF u dont want to believe dont, nobody force u to believe.
I can prove u scientifically from The Quran also.
For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God.
Many atheists demand a scientific proof for the existence of God.
Let us use scientific knowledge
If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don’t grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it.
Scientific Facts Mentioned in the Qur'an
Theory of Probability
In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.
A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.
Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.
At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.
The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.
Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.
The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.
Creator is the Author of the Qur'an
The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the ‘CREATOR’, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is ‘God’, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ‘ALLAH’.
Qur'an is a Book of Signs and not Science
Let me remind you that the Qur’an is not a book of Science, ‘S-C-I-E-N-C-E’ but a book of Signs ‘S-I-G-N-S’ i.e. a book of ayaats. The Qur’an contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. ‘signs’, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. I am not trying to prove that the Qur’an is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yard stick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified. For us Muslims the Qur’an is the Furqan i.e. criteria to judge right from wrong and the ultimate yardstick which is more superior to scientific knowledge.
But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. We do know that science many a times takes ‘U’ turns, therefore I have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions. Using the ultimate yardstick of the atheist, I am trying to prove to him that the Qur’an is the word of God and it contains the scientific knowledge which is his yardstick which was discovered recently, while the Qur’an was revealed 1400 year ago
Science is Eliminating Models of God but not God
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’).
Surah Fussilat:
"Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"
[Al-Quran 41:53]
This make me lot of difficult to understand.
While what you have written can be short and sweet.
The examples of Machine and his creator, theory of probability doesn't prove God existence. You have written their to just make up our mind that what next you are going to write should accept as it is.
Well because of your explanation I got a lot of Question in Mind.
Keep the Quran aside and definitely Author of Quran is a another Question to be ask on AMHD, but keep it aside forr a while.Check below link if you want.
Who Wrote the Holy Quran (http://www.themodernreligion.com/basic/quran/quran_who_wrote.htm)
OK I believe you for sometime.
Let us go step by step.
But tell me.
Who is God?
Where is He?
What is his ultimate aim/mission in creating us?
Does he is alone or having family?
What is the source of Him(God)?
Just tell me above answer and I strongly believe that your only going to answer that question.
Note: But please don't take anything from Quran or any other holy book, if possible.
0rphan
Apr 13, 2009, 07:10 AM
This question will continue for eternity... there will never be concrete proof.
I personally believe in a higher power whom I choose to call... THE GOOD GUY UPSTAIRS.
Unless you have absolute faith.. without needing to proof existence, you will always doubt any existence of any God ( no matter what you choose to call him ) there can only be one... GOOD GUY, despite his name he is the same being.
We are mere mortals and cannot comprehened the complete brilliance of our world which is often ignored especially by the young.
The phrase, THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE, springs to mind, look around you, from tiny seeds great oaks trees grow, the world in all it's beauty holds many wonders, which go far and above mans understanding... they didn't just happen.
I know that the GOOD GUY UPSTAIRS is there, I don't need proof.. scientific or otherwise.
It's something that is felt deep inside which is not backed up by any proof of any kind.. surfice to say that I have had many difficult times in my life which without some kind of intervention I would not be here today.
Just for the record... I don't go to church anymore or have not totally read the good book. I pray if I feel the need where ever I might be.
My sense of moral codes and my upbringing tells me the difference between right and wrong, which is instilled in each and everyone of us... IT'S CALLED FREE WILL
Have faith in what your own feelings tell you and the answers will become clear.
hmorrar
Apr 13, 2009, 07:52 AM
THE GOOD GUY UPSTAIRS.
Unless you have absolute faith..without needing to proof existence, you will always doubt any existence of any God
Can we explain
1) no one yet was able to create any kind of life, not even a single cell bacteria
2) how can you explain that we have the book who we believe (and it is) the word of God was never been changed for one thousand and four hundred years with millions of copies everywhere typically he same letter by letter?
3) how can a sperm in the man can evolve and know that on the other side there is a female that it must be penetrated and deliver to it the other half of the chromosoms? When this sperm is a nano mechanical robot with sugar fuel engine and rotating tail and screw bomb head engineered to do this purpose?
4) what makes an ant or a bee defent its colony until death?
5) how your atoms were collected to form your organs with all its complexity?
hmorrar
Apr 13, 2009, 07:59 AM
Who is God?
Where is He?
What is his ultimate aim/mission in creating us?
Does he is alone or having family?
What is the source of Him(God)?
God is the creator, everything in being was created by him
God is at the thrown which is the biggest creation, within it lies the 7 great skies which ours is the smallest one
He created us to warship him, meaning doing what we told to do and not doing what we told not to do; including believing he is only one, being kind to each other, working hard to benefit humanity, being good with our parents, not killing innocents, praying,.
God does not need no one, everything is in need for him
Not sure what is meant by the source of him?
Peaceful1
Apr 13, 2009, 09:23 AM
This make me lot of difficult to understand.
While what you have written can be short and sweet.
The examples of Machine and his creator, theory of probability doesn't prove God existance. You have written their to just make up our mind that what next you are going to write should accept as it is.
Well because of your explanation I got a lot of Question in Mind.
Keep the Quran aside and definitely Author of Quran is a another Question to be ask on AMHD, but keep it aside forr a while.Check below link if you want.
Who Wrote the Holy Quran (http://www.themodernreligion.com/basic/quran/quran_who_wrote.htm)
OK I believe you for sometime.
Let us go step by step.
But tell me.
Who is God?
Where is He?
What is his ultimate aim/mission in creating us?
Does he is alone or having family?
What is the source of Him(God)?
Just tell me above answer and I strongly believe that your only going to answer that question.
Note: But please don't take anything from Quran or any other holy book, if possible.
Without the help of creator I can't answer your questions because I am not the creator of the human beings or universe. These Q. Ans. Only you can find in the Creators Instruction manual. & it's the Holy Quran.
Allah does not force anyone to submit to Him. He has laid out a clear path and then made it known to them the two ways (Heaven or Hell). The person is always free to make his or her own choice.
There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in taghut (false gods and false worship) and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
Allah is the Wali (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He brings them out from darkness into light. But as for those who disbelieve, their Auliya (supporters and helpers) are Taghut [false gods and false worship.], they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will remain there forever.
[Noble Quran 2:256-257]
If you think that I have written to just make up mind & whatever I said to accept, then you do research.
The Quran itself provides us with the test of authenticity and offers challenges against itself to prove its veracity. Allah tells us in the Quran:
Haven't the unbelievers considered if this was from other than Allah, they would find within it many contradictions?
[Noble Quran 4:82]
Another amazing challenge from Allah's Book:
If you are in doubt about it, bring a chapter like it.
[Noble Quran 2:23]
And Allah challenges us with:
Bring ten chapters like it.[Noble Quran 11:13]
And finally:
Bring one chapter like it.[Noble Quran 10:38]
Your questions
Who is God
The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:
"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only. "Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. "He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]
He calls Himself by a number of names and three of them are:
The First - (Al-Awal)
The Last - (Al Akhir)
The Eternal and the One who is sought after by His creation, while He has no need from them at all. (As-Samad)
He is not a man and He has no progeny or offspring.
He is not what He creates nor is He compared to it.
He always has existed and He never was created, as He is not like His creation, nor similar to it, in any way.
The prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) explained the devil would come to a person and ask them questions about creation; "Who created this or that?" to which the reply would be; "Allah" until he would ask; "Who created Allah?" At this stage the prophet advised us to drop this train of thought. Obviously, God - the real God, must be eternal and not have to be created.
The Quran tells us:
Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (There is no god to worship except Him), the Ever Living, the Sustainer and Protector of all that exists. He doesn't get tired and He doesn't sleep. Everything in the universe belongs to Him. Who then, could intercede between Him and his creatures without His Permission? He Knows everything about them and they have no knowledge except as He wills. His kursi (stool or chair) extends over the entire universe and He doesn't get tired of guarding and preserving it. He is Most High, the Most Great.
[This Verse is called Ayat-ul-Kursi.] [Noble Quran 2:255]
This verse truly presents the comprehensive representation of God in a way without trying to define Him by comparing Him to His creation, but rather as being the Absolute in all of His Attributes and Characteristics
Where is he?
Some other religions teach "God is everywhere." This is actually called "pantheism" and it is the opposite of our belief system in Islam. Allah tells us clearly there is nothing, anywhere in the universe like Him similar to his likeness, nor is He ever in His creation.
He tells us in the Quran He created the universe in six "yawm" (periods of time) and then He "astawah 'ala al Arsh" (rose up, above His Throne). He is there (above His Throne) and will remain there until the End Times.
Allah has such complete Knowledge as to be able to Know all things past, present and future in all places at exactly the same time. The same can be said for His absolute Hearing and Seeing. In this way, His Knowledge, His Hearing, His Sight is everywhere simultaneously.
In this regard, the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told us He is as close to us as our jugular vein. He also explained Allah is "with us" when we are in sincere worship to Him and in times of need. Naturally, this would not compromise His existence outside of His creation.
The Quran offers us a more detailed understanding of Where (and Who) Allah is.
"Certainly your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six yaum (days or periods of time), and then He Istawa (rose above) the Throne. He brings the night as a cover over the day rapidly, and the sun, the moon, the stars subject to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and the Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the universe!"
[Noble Quran 7:54]
"Indeed, your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six yaum (days or periods of time), and then He Istawa (rose above), the Throne, disposing the affair of everything. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except by His Permission. This is Allah, your Lord, so worship Him. Won't you then remember?"[Noble Quran 10:3]
What is his ultimate aim/mission in creating us?
Allah says in His Quran He did not create all of this for any foolish purpose. Allah Says:
And I did not Create the jinn and humans except they should worship Me.[Noble Quran 51:56]
He created us for the purpose of worshiping Him, Alone and without any partners.
And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth in six Days(periods) and His Throne was on the water, that He might try you, which of you is the best in deeds. But if you were to say to them: "You shall indeed be raised up after death," those who disbelieve would be sure to say, "This is nothing but obvious magic." [Noble Quran 11:7]
Allah has created all we call the universe as a test for us. This is not our final destination. What we might consider to be "bad" or "good" could actually be quite the opposite.
Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the dominion, and He has the Ability to do all things.
(He's the One) Who has created death and life, so He may test you which of you is best in deed. And He is the All-Mighty, the Oft-Forgiving;
(He's the One) Who has created the seven heavens one above another, you can see no fault in the creations of the Most Beneficent. Then look again: "Can you see any rifts?"
Then look again and yet again, your sight will return to you in a state of humiliation and worn out. [Noble Quran 67:1-4]
The Quran tells us about the nature of mankind and how quickly we forget the many wonderful blessings provided to us daily. Allah describes our attitude clearly in His Quran:
And when some hurt touches man, he cries to his Lord (Allah Alone), turning to Him in repentance, but when He bestows a favor upon him from Himself, he forgets that for which he cried for before, and he sets up rivals to Allah, in order to mislead others from His Path. Say: "Take pleasure in your disbelief for a while: surely, you are (one) of the dwellers of the Fire!"[Noble Quran 39:8]
We forget, as we were created to forget. And this is a part of our test. Will we only use a selective memory and overlook what we owe to our Creator and Sustainer? Or will we be appreciative even when we are suffering some hardship or setback in this life?
As for mankind, whenever his Lord tests him giving him honor and gifts, he says (bragging): "My Lord honors me."
But whenever He tests him by withholding his livelihood, he says: "My Lord has disgraced me!"[Noble Quran 89:15-16]
Does he is alone or having family?
It covers in 1st answer.
What is the source of Him(God)?
The Final Book of Allah Quran & the authentic Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammed(pbuh) are the source of Guidance.
ubharedev
Apr 14, 2009, 12:40 AM
Without the help of creator I can't answer your questions because I am not the creator of the human beings or universe. These Q. Ans. only u can find in the Creators Instruction manual. & its The Holy Quran.
Allah does not force anyone to submit to Him. He has laid out a clear path and then made it known to them the two ways (Heaven or Hell). The person is always free to make his or her own choice.
There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in taghut (false gods and false worship) and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
Allah is the Wali (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He brings them out from darkness into light. But as for those who disbelieve, their Auliya (supporters and helpers) are Taghut [false gods and false worship.], they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will remain there forever.
[Noble Quran 2:256-257]
If you think that i have written to just make up mind & whatever i said to accept, then you do research.
The Quran itself provides us with the test of authenticity and offers challenges against itself to prove its veracity. Allah tells us in the Quran:
Haven't the unbelievers considered if this was from other than Allah, they would find within it many contradictions?
[Noble Quran 4:82]
Another amazing challenge from Allah's Book:
If you are in doubt about it, bring a chapter like it.
[Noble Quran 2:23]
And Allah challenges us with:
Bring ten chapters like it.[Noble Quran 11:13]
And finally:
Bring one chapter like it.[Noble Quran 10:38]
your questions
Who is God
The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:
"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only. "Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. "He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]
He calls Himself by a number of names and three of them are:
The First - (Al-Awal)
The Last - (Al Akhir)
The Eternal and the One who is sought after by His creation, while He has no need from them at all. (As-Samad)
He is not a man and He has no progeny or offspring.
He is not what He creates nor is He compared to it.
He always has existed and He never was created, as He is not like His creation, nor similar to it, in any way.
The prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) explained the devil would come to a person and ask them questions about creation; "Who created this or that?" to which the reply would be; "Allah" until he would ask; "Who created Allah?" At this stage the prophet advised us to drop this train of thought. Obviously, God - the real God, must be eternal and not have to be created.
The Quran tells us:
Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (There is no god to worship except Him), the Ever Living, the Sustainer and Protector of all that exists. He doesn't get tired and He doesn't sleep. Everything in the universe belongs to Him. Who then, could intercede between Him and his creatures without His Permission? He Knows everything about them and they have no knowledge except as He wills. His kursi (stool or chair) extends over the entire universe and He doesn't get tired of guarding and preserving it. He is Most High, the Most Great.
[This Verse is called Ayat-ul-Kursi.] [Noble Quran 2:255]
This verse truly presents the comprehensive representation of God in a way without trying to define Him by comparing Him to His creation, but rather as being the Absolute in all of His Attributes and Characteristics
Where is he?
Some other religions teach "God is everywhere." This is actually called "pantheism" and it is the opposite of our belief system in Islam. Allah tells us clearly there is nothing, anywhere in the universe like Him similar to his likeness, nor is He ever in His creation.
He tells us in the Quran He created the universe in six "yawm" (periods of time) and then He "astawah 'ala al Arsh" (rose up, above His Throne). He is there (above His Throne) and will remain there until the End Times.
Allah has such complete Knowledge as to be able to Know all things past, present and future in all places at exactly the same time. The same can be said for His absolute Hearing and Seeing. In this way, His Knowledge, His Hearing, His Sight is everywhere simultaneously.
In this regard, the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told us He is as close to us as our jugular vein. He also explained Allah is "with us" when we are in sincere worship to Him and in times of need. Naturally, this would not compromise His existence outside of His creation.
The Quran offers us a more detailed understanding of Where (and Who) Allah is.
"Certainly your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six yaum (days or periods of time), and then He Istawa (rose above) the Throne. He brings the night as a cover over the day rapidly, and the sun, the moon, the stars subject to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and the Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the universe!"
[Noble Quran 7:54]
"Indeed, your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six yaum (days or periods of time), and then He Istawa (rose above), the Throne, disposing the affair of everything. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except by His Permission. This is Allah, your Lord, so worship Him. Won't you then remember?"[Noble Quran 10:3]
What is his ultimate aim/mission in creating us?
Allah says in His Quran He did not create all of this for any foolish purpose. Allah Says:
Ok I agree Allah(or any God) is the creator of the world/us.
But, I got some more questions here and found some strange fact about you.
I highlighted those things which I found doubtful.
I told you not to take any thing from any Holy book and you are not able to explain that without help of Quran(means any holy Book).
So it is concluded that you can't go ahead without Quran. You can't explain without it.
Being specific you are nothing without it.
Inshort you are controlled by your mind, your mind is not under your control.
Allah does not force anyone to submit to Him.The person is always free to make his or her own choice.There is no compulsion in religion.
This was in Quran. Right? Ok, then I challenge you just to leave Islam for a few periods.
As everyone is free to make his or her own choice and also Allah doesnot force anyone to submit to Him.Mighty God is mercy and kind to everyone so you can return in Islam.
And this is only for finding new things with open eyes. To find things that you can't see with covered eyes with Religion ribbon.And if you are not going to accept this than YOUR MIND is like a frog dwelling in a well and assume that the well is the whole world.
I am not telling to convert to any other religion just be unreligious for some moment.
Walk on the path of only humanism but not with religious method.I know that every religion contains humanism but without any God it is true service to mankind and peace to other as well as ourself. And surprisingly, you come to know that you can do more easily and confidently the same thing that tell is any religion(any religion) with considering any God. I can do what you do, without considering any superpower or God.
Your bridge of trust has a terminal named God in midst, so can't do anything confidently with full of self confident without considering it. What ever the outcome of any work you consider God for it success or failure. Suppose you done a work(example in Exams, auditions, test, interview etc.) and rewarded less(rejected) than what you expected, than the thought "Might God has not wishes to give or it is our destiny" makes you handicap at some sort. This is common in almost all people. May be some are exception.
See when you leave any religion or convert to it, your God also changed.
So, here we can say Religion is the only source of God. If there is no Religion than there is no God. But there is a need of Religion for human because I treat religion as way to live life in peace and service not only to Mankind but also for all living beings. And I want religion without God because it doesn't have important role or doesn't have any role while I serving to others.
Now the question of my sins and whether I go to hell or heaven doesn't bother for me.
Because I believe that this Mother earth is the only and only HEAVEN for all.
Otherwise, just think, you get to live on it, to eat, to roam, to see it natural beauties, to see beautiful seas, different beautiful animals, everywhere peace and harmony, get everything you want, then isn't it Earth is Heaven?
If not, then which Heaven your searching for? Open your eyes and take a look from your windows a beautiful sky, greeneries, animals and many things.
Earth tore its stomach and feeds you, it gives whatever you want it natural resources that comforts your life or today's gadget and all that also without single penny it is taking from us.
My friend this is the heaven, it is our darkness that we can't see it.We are enjoying here and here only we can enjoy. No other heaven is there.
Allah has such complete Knowledge as to be able to Know all things past, present and future in all places at exactly the same time.
If any God is able to know the past, present and future then why thousand of people are killing in bombblast,mishap, terrorist attack. Don't tell they are sinfull you know along with them many innocent are also killed.Childrens,women also. Why can't any God stops it.
Thousand of sisters are being raped, killed,loot, thieves,extortion many things are there that God has to stop it, right now.Don't tell that it's in their destiny or its God choice. Don't tell that also that God is about to come to punish all offenders, because it is happening from thousand of years. And will be same until some strict majors has to be taken by us.
In short I want to tell that We or you don't know what is the pain of losing some near dear ones in just brutual Human(they are devil) attach. Allah is not going to to return them to us. What lost is lost.
You know about me that I was also a great devottee of some God but few years back I realize that I don't need any God, I can live my life happily with out God.
I don't mind you or anyone follow any religion but what we have today is perishable or mortal or deminishable. So don't think that God is going to give that back if we are lacking.
Just see around Global warming, Sea level sooner or later we don't know everything will be there or not, more probability is that we will die. No God is going to help our future generation.
I agrees to adopt any religion but without God.
God is because of Religion and religion cannot survive without God, unless it has strong scientific principles and doctrines that can be accepted and ready to be tested in any condition by anyone and proved to be faithfull for anyone.
Peaceful1
Apr 14, 2009, 04:12 AM
[QUOTE=ubharedev;1664132]Ok I agree Allah(or any God) is the creator of the world/us.
Alhamdulillah, my mind is in the Control of my Creator.
If the holy books are having contradictions, or deletion or addition by human beings, then you can say that your are totally in the control of your leaders, scholars i.e. following them blindly.
Allah says in The Quran (2:79)
"Woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say: 'This is from Allah, ' in order to gain a small price for it. So Woe to them for what their hands have written, and Woe to them for their earnings. "
The Qur’an is the only religious scripture on the face of the earth which has been maintained it its original form, proving itself to be the word of God in all the ages. i.e. previously, when it was the age of miracles, literature and poetry and in present times when it is the age of science and technology. All the other religious scriptures, of all the other religions have interpolations, additions, deletions or revisions.
Allah (swt) promises in the Qur’an, in Surah Al Hijr, chapter 15 verse 9
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)."
Remember God is only one.
People began to separate into different groups due to their rejection of truth and denial of clear proofs becoming evident to them from their Lord.
And the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) differed not amongst themselves until after clear evidence came to them.
And they were not commanded anything more than this; to worship Allah, alone (without making partners with Him in worship) and establish regular devotional prayers and pay the charity due to the poor; and this is the correct Way (way of life and religion).
[Noble Quran 98:4-5]
Allah warns the Muslims not to fall into the same trap as the people before them, by disputing with each other and separating into different religious groups:
And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them. It is they for whom there is an awful torment.
On the Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) when some faces will become white and some faces will become black; as for those whose faces will become black (to them will be said): "Did you reject Faith after accepting it? Then taste the torment (in Hell) for rejecting Faith." [Noble Quran 3:105-106]
People lied about the revelations, changed their scriptures and abused and even murdered the prophets whom Allah sent to them.
And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while they know it.
It is not (possible) for any human being to whom Allah has given the Book and Al-Hukma (the knowledge and understanding of the laws of religion, etc.) and Prophethood to say to the people: "Be my worshippers rather than Allah's." On the contrary (he would say): "Be you Rabbaniyun (learned men of religion who practice what they know and also preach others), because you are teaching the Book, and you are studying it."
[Noble Quran 3:78-79]
Prophets of Allah only ask people to worship Allah, as One God without partners. They would never ask people to worship them or anyone or anything else. Allah tells us in the Quran:
Nor would he (a messenger of Allah) order you to take angels and Prophets for lords (gods). Would he order you to disbelieve after you have submitted to Allah's Will?
[Noble Quran 3:80]
Man made religions are an abomination before the Lord and will never be accepted.
I ask u simple question
Who will deicide what is good & bad for human beings?
How will u solve the problem of alcoholism, surplus women, pork, robbery, racism, casteism, fighting etc?
Without the Guidance of God human being is nothing. If you follow the true religion, you will find true peace.
Suppose I manufacture a video cassette recorder (VCR). What do I do? I write an instruction manual: "In order to watch a video cassette, insert the cassette and press the play button. In order to stop, press the stop button. If you want to fast forward press the FF button. Do not drop it from a height or it will get damaged. Do not immerse it in water or it will get spoilt". I write an instruction manual that lists the various do’s and don’ts for the machine.
Similarly, our Lord and Creator Allah (swt) he knows best what is good or bad for the human being. He chooses to reveal the instruction manual. The last and final instruction manual of the human beings is the Glorious Qur’an. The ‘dos’ and ‘don’ts’ for the human beings are mentioned in the Qur’an.
If you allow me to compare human beings with machines, I would say humans are more complicated than the most complex machines in the world. Even the most advanced computers, which are extremely complex, are pale in comparison to the myriad physical, psychological, genetic and social factors that affect individual and collective human life.
The more advanced the machine, greater is the need for its instruction manual. By the same logic, don’t human beings require an instruction manual by which to govern their own lives?
Indeed Allah is All-Powerful (Al-`Aziz) and He is able to do all things (Allahu 'ala kuli shayin qadir). The Quran has mentioned this hundreds of times. It is also mentioned in the Quran that Allah is the Creator and He is the Best Creator. Glory be to Allah, the best Creator. (Al-Mu'minoon: 14)
But then the question comes why do pain and sufferings exist in the world. We find sickness, old age and death. We see things that are ugly, people who are insane and foolish. There are storms, earthquakes, floods, draught and famine. We also see people commit sins, show disloyalty, unfaithfulness, greed and insincerity. We see people commit rapes, murders; they fight and make wars. We know all these and many more problems. There are evils caused by human beings and there are natural disasters. There are suffering for individuals and there are those that involve a large number of people.
But we also know that this is not the whole story. Besides all these negative things, we also see beauty, health, prosperity, life, birth, wisdom, intelligence, growth and progress. We also see goodness among people, faith, sincerity, charity, love and the spirit of sacrifice. We also see a lot of virtue and piety. It is wrong to see one side of the coin and not to see the other side. Any philosophy that concentrates on one aspect of the creation and denies or ignores the other side is partially true and partial truths are no truth at all.
It is also the fact that the element of good is more in the creation than the element of evil. We all see that there are more people who are healthy than those who are sick. There are more that eat well than those who starve.
There are more that lead decent life than those who commit crimes. Goodness is the rule and evil is the exception. Virtue is the norm and sin is the aberration. Generally trees bear fruits, the flowers bloom, the winds move smoothly.
But then the question is why does Allah allow these exceptions to the rules?
Let us ask this question to understand Allah's ways in His creation. The Quran tells us that good, evil and whatever happens in this world happens by Allah's Will (mashiat Allah). Only Allah knows fully His Will. We finite beings cannot grasp fully His infinite Will and Wisdom. He runs His universe the way He deems fit. The Quran tells us that Allah is Wise and everything that Allah does is right, just, good and fair. We must submit and surrender to His Will. The Quran has not given us all the details about Allah's Will, but it has enlightened us with the guidance that is useful and sufficient for us. There are several points that we should keep in our mind to understand this issue:
1. First of all, Allah did not make this world a permanent world. This is a temporary world and everything here has a time limit. When its times comes it will die, come to an end and finish. Neither the good things of this world are forever, nor the bad things eternal. We are here for a short time and we are being tested. Those who will pass this test will find an eternal world that is perfect and permanent. Those who will fail this test shall see the evil consequences of their sins and corruption.
2. Allah has placed a physical law and a moral law in this universe. Allah allows suffering to occur when one or more of these laws are broken. The physical law is based on cause and effect. Sickness comes if one does not take care of ones health or is exposed to infections. A car accident occurs when one is not alert, or drives in a careless manner, or if the cars are not checked, roads and freeways are not made and kept in right shape, or the traffic laws are not right or not properly enforced. Study of causes and effects is very important to facilitate safeguards. Even here we should keep in mind that Allah often saves us and He does not let us suffer from every negligence. How many times it happens that we are not careful and still we reach safely to our destinations. The way people drive in some cities, it is a miracle that more accidents do not happen and more people do not suffer. Allah says:
(Allah) Most Gracious! It is He Who has taught the Quran. He has created man: He has taught him speech (and Intelligence). The sun and the moon follow courses (exactly) computed; and the herbs and the trees both (alike) bow in adoration. And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice), in order that you may not transgress (due) balance. So establish weight with justice and fall not short in the balance. It is He Who has spread out the earth for (His) creatures."
(Ar-Rahman:1-10)
The way we exceed the measures set by Allah and violate His laws of "cause and effect" is incredible. It is really the mercy of Allah that we are saved. Strictly speaking, the question should not be why does Allah allow suffering, but how much Allah protects us and saves us all the time in spite of our violations and negligence. The Quran says:
"If Allah were to punish people according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily Allah has in His sight all His servants."
(Fatir:45)
But sometimes Allah does punish people because of their violations of His laws whether they are physical or moral. The Quran tells us that many nations and communities were destroyed because of their sinful lifestyles:
If they treat thy (mission) as false, so did the Peoples before them (with their Prophets), the People of Noah, and Ad and Thamud. Those of Abraham and Lut; and the Companions of the Madyan people; and Moses was rejected (in the same way). But I granted respite to the Unbelievers, and (only) after that did I punish them: but how (terrible) was My rejection (of them)! How many populations have We destroyed, which were given to wrong-doing! They tumbled down on their roofs. And how many wells are lying idle and neglected, and castles lofty and well-built?" (Al-Hajj: 42-45)
3. Suffering can also be a test and trial for some people. Allah allows some people to suffer in order to test their patience and steadfastness. Even Allah's Prophets and Messengers were made to suffer. Prophet Ayyub is mentioned in the Quran as a Prophet who was very patient. Good people sometimes suffer but their sufferings heal others and bring goodness to their communities. People learn lessons from their good examples. Martyrs die for their faith, soldiers give their lives for their nations and this brings liberation and freedom for their people.
If peoples are killing, raping, then you have to ask them. God never said people to rape, to kill, to bomb blast. Why are they killing you have ask them.
Allah(swt) says in the Quran (5:32)
if anyone slew a person―unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land― it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.
You are right “And will be same until some strict majors has to be taken by us.”
what is major step, the major step is you have to follow the God’s Commandment, You have submit your will to God. Till this not accept by people, there will be no peace.
For a religion to be considered the best, it should have the solution to all the problems of mankind. It should be the religion of truth, and should be applicable to all ages. Islam is the only religion which has the solution to all the problems of mankind. e.g. the problem of alcoholism, surplus women, rape and molestation, robbery, racism, casteism, etc.
This life is a test for the hereafter. The Glorious Qur’an says:
"He who created Death
And life that He
May try which of you
Is best in deed;
And He is the Exalted
In Might, Oft-Forgiving"
[Al-Qur’an 67:2]
Final justice on day of judgment
The Glorious Qur’an says:
"Every soul shall have
A taste of death:
And only on the Day
Of Judgement shall you
Be paid your full recompense.
Only he who is saved
Far from the Fire
And admitted to the Garden
Will have attained
The object (of life):
For the life of this world
Is but goods and chattels
Of deception."
[Al-Qur’an 3:185]
Final justice will be meted out on the Day of Judgments. After a person dies, he will be resurrected on the Day of Judgments along with the rest of mankind. It is possible that a person receives part of his punishment in this world. The final reward and punishment will only be in the hereafter. God Almighty may not punish a robber or a rapist in this world but he will surely be held accountable on the Day of Judgments and will be punished in the hereafter i.e. life after death.
What punishment can the human law give Hitler?
Hitler incinerated six million Jews during his reign of terror. Even if the police had arrested him, what punishment can the human law give Hitler for justice to prevail? The most they can do is to send Hitler to the gas chamber. But that will only be punishment for the killing of one Jew. What about the remaining five million, nine hundred and ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine Jews?
Allah can burn Hitler more than six million times in hellfire
Allah say in the Glorious Qur’an:
"Those who reject
Our signs, We shall soon
Cast into the Fire;
As often as their skins
Are roasted through,
We shall change them
For fresh skins,
That they may taste
The penalty: for Allah
Is Exalted in Power, Wise"
[Al-Qur’an 4:56]
If Allah wishes he can incinerate Hitler six million times in the hereafter in the hellfire.
ubharedev
Apr 15, 2009, 02:09 AM
I believe that talking or arguing or discussing on any subject that has no use, significance or value in life or to anyone is worthless.
Imran2k12 wants the scientific answer whether God exists or not?
My conscience says that;
It is written-written everywhere there is the God, but it is not proven anywhere here is the God.
This is my last and final scientific answer.
And last challenge to all:
I will prove 100 times that there is no God.
Just prove only 1 times here is the God.
Just bring God in front of me and if not,
I will tell him just do a little thing for me than I believe in its power and existence.
And that simple thing is, just break a leaflet from tree and put it again on tree as it was.
Note: Don't write hundreds of lines from any text to prove it or read sentence in bold.
Peace and wisdom to all.
Peaceful1
Apr 15, 2009, 02:45 AM
I believe that talking or arguing or discussing on any subject that has no use, significance or value in life or to anyone is worthless.
Imran2k12 wants the scientific answer whether God exists or not?
My conscience says that;
It is written-written everywhere there is the God, but it is not proven anywhere here is the God.
This is my last and final scientific answer.
And last challenge to all:
I will prove 100 times that there is no God.
Just prove only 1 times here is the God.
Just bring God infront of me and if not,
I will tell him just do a little thing for me than I believe in its power and existance.
And that simple thing is, just break a leaflet from tree and put it again on tree as it was.
Note: Don't write hundreds of lines from any text to prove it or read sentence in bold.
Peace and wisdom to all.
Then Accept Allah's Challenge (its what scientists demand) & prove it.
Scientific approach of The Quran
The Quran offers something that is not offered by other religious scriptures, in particular, and other religions, in general. It is what scientists demand. Today there are many people who have ideas and theories about how the universe works. These people are all over the place, but the scientific community does not even bother to listen to them. This is because within the last century the scientific community has demanded a test of falsification. They say, “If you have theory, do not bother us with it unless you bring with that theory a way for us to prove whether you are wrong or not.”
Such a test was exactly why the scientific community listened to Einstein towards the beginning of the century. He came with a new theory and said, “I believe the universe works like this; and here are three ways to prove whether I am wrong!” So the scientific community subjected his theory to the tests, and within six years it passed all three. Of course, this does not prove that he was great, but it proves that he deserved to be listened to because he said, “This is my idea; and if you want to try to prove me wrong, do this or try that.”
This is exactly what the Quran has - falsification tests. Some are old (in that they have already been proven true), and some still exist today. Basically it states, “If this book is not what it claims to be, then all you have to do is this or this or this to prove that it is false.” Of course, in 1400 years no one has been able to do “This or this or this,” and thus it is still considered true and authentic.
Falsification Test
Islam provides man with a chance to verify it authenticity and “prove it wrong” occurs in the 4th chapter. It states (Surah An-Nisa, 4:82):
“Do they not consider the Quran? Had it been from any other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.”
This is a clear challenge to the non-Muslim. Basically, it invites him to find a mistake. As a matter of fact, the seriousness and difficulty of the challenge aside, the actual presentation of such a challenge in the first place is not even in human nature and is inconsistent with man’s personality. One doesn’t take an exam in school and after finishing the exam, write a note to the instructor at the end saying, “This exam is perfect. There are no mistakes in it. Find one if you can!” One just doesn’t do that. The teacher would not sleep until he found a mistake! And yet this is the way the Quran approaches people.
ubharedev
Apr 15, 2009, 05:44 AM
Then Accept Allah's Challenge (its what scientists demand) & prove it.
Scientific approach of The Quran
The Quran offers something that is not offered by other religious scriptures, in particular, and other religions, in general. It is what scientists demand. Today there are many people who have ideas and theories about how the universe works. These people are all over the place, but the scientific community does not even bother to listen to them. This is because within the last century the scientific community has demanded a test of falsification. They say, “If you have theory, do not bother us with it unless you bring with that theory a way for us to prove whether you are wrong or not.”
Such a test was exactly why the scientific community listened to Einstein towards the beginning of the century. He came with a new theory and said, “I believe the universe works like this; and here are three ways to prove whether I am wrong!” So the scientific community subjected his theory to the tests, and within six years it passed all three. Of course, this does not prove that he was great, but it proves that he deserved to be listened to because he said, “This is my idea; and if you want to try to prove me wrong, do this or try that.”
This is exactly what the Quran has - falsification tests. Some are old (in that they have already been proven true), and some still exist today. Basically it states, “If this book is not what it claims to be, then all you have to do is this or this or this to prove that it is false.” Of course, in 1400 years no one has been able to do “This or this or this,” and thus it is still considered true and authentic.
Falsification Test
Islam provides man with a chance to verify it authenticity and “prove it wrong” occurs in the 4th chapter. It states (Surah An-Nisa, 4:82):
“Do they not consider the Quran? Had it been from any other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.”
This is a clear challenge to the non-Muslim. Basically, it invites him to find a mistake. As a matter of fact, the seriousness and difficulty of the challenge aside, the actual presentation of such a challenge in the first place is not even in human nature and is inconsistent with man’s personality. One doesn’t take an exam in school and after finishing the exam, write a note to the instructor at the end saying, “This exam is perfect. There are no mistakes in it. Find one if you can!” One just doesn’t do that. The teacher would not sleep until he found a mistake! And yet this is the way the Quran approaches people.
My friend,
You can just explain this is because of this and this and this and that with the help of Quran.
You can just write or talk about God existence with the help of Quran.
You can say or write thousand of lines or times about God existence.
Because you have a good knowledge of Quran.
But you can't prove it...
You can't prove it...
You can't prove it...
You can't prove it...
Peaceful1
Apr 15, 2009, 10:56 PM
My friend,
You can just explain this is because of this and this and this and that with the help of Quran.
You can just write or talk about God existance with the help of Quran.
You can say or write thousand of lines or times about God existance.
Because you have a good knowledge of Quran.
But you can't prove it.............
you can't prove it..................
you can't prove it..................
you can't prove it..................
Accept the Challenge of God & Prove it wrong.
Another amazing challenge from Allah's Book:
If you are in doubt about it, bring a chapter like it.
[Noble Quran 2:23]
And Allah challenges us with:
Bring ten chapters like it.[Noble Quran 11:13]
And finally:
Bring one chapter like it.[Noble Quran 10:38]
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small 'g' that is fake god) but God (with a capital 'G').
ubharedev
Apr 16, 2009, 12:28 AM
Friend Peaceful1,
AMHD is for solving question very simply and without complexity.
And you are answering a question with a question.
Which makes it more complex.
I am not able to bring 1 or 10 chapter anything.
But can you prove its(God) existence.
We are not trying to make any Holy book fake or rising question on it.
But we are trying to find God existence or not.
Whether g or G doesn't concern with anything except while writing as per English rules.
Just answer that, are you able to prove it existence or not?
Because I am able to prove that it doesn't exist at all.
Hope you got it.
carbonite
Apr 16, 2009, 05:39 AM
I still say make me a tree, not plant one make me one out of nothing.
ubharedev
Apr 16, 2009, 05:45 AM
Ok, I can't make a tree out of nothing.
If anyone or God can make a tree out of nothing then show me.
Don't tell it was created by God earlier. Now let do it front of all of us. I don't know who or how it(tree) was created before.
If you say its God. Then please request mighty God to create only one tree out of nothing in front of us for the trust or faith of all his believers. And I believe if you prays him with real faith he won't deny you to do it in front of us.
He must have to keep his devotees respect and that is why we called him God, isn't it?
Remember in front of us.
Peaceful1
Apr 16, 2009, 07:18 AM
Friend Peaceful1,
AMHD is for solving question very simply and without complexity.
And you are answering a question with a question.
Which makes it more complex.
I am not able to bring 1 or 10 chapter anything.
But can you prove its(God) existance.
We are not trying to make any Holy book fake or rising question on it.
But we are trying to find God existance or not.
Whether g or G doesn't concern with anything except while writing as per English rules.
Just answer that, are you able to prove it existence or not?
Because I am able to prove that it doesn't exist at all.
Hope you got it.
Could you please define God
What is the definition of God?
For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that 'this is a pen', for the opposite person to say, 'it is not a pen', he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means.
I have already proved you scientifically & logically, if you don't understand, read again all my previous post.
If you don't want accept the truth, nobody force you to accept it.
Allah says in Quran (2:18)
Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path).
The meaning of verse 2:18
Deaf, to the truth, so that they cannot hear it and accept it;
Dumb, mute as regards goodness, unable to speak of it; and
Blind, to the path of guidance, so that they cannot perceive it;
And they shall not return from their disbelief and error.
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small 'g' that is fake god) but God (with a capital 'G').
Peaceful1
Apr 16, 2009, 08:11 AM
Ok, I can't make a tree out of nothing.
If anyone or God can make a tree out of nothing then show me.
Don't tell it was created by God earlier. Now let do it front of all of us. I don't know who or how it(tree) was created before.
If you say its God. Then please request mighty God to create only one tree out of nothing infront of us for the trust or faith of all his believers. And I believe if you prays him with real faith he won't deny you to do it infront of us.
He must have to keep his devotees respect and that is why we called him God, isn't it?
Remeber infront of us.
This life is test for hereafter. If anyone sees Allah then Where is test
Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.
Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.
Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.
Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah.
[Please visit "Science Proves Allah": Watch video of famous scientists admit Quran is from Allah and even accept Islam]
Islam Guide: Video Clips of Scientists Comments on Science in the Quran on sceince (http://www.islamyesterday.com/science/)
http://www.scienceislam.com/scientists_quran.php
The Quran is the best of proofs for the existence of Allah and today over one and half billion people memorize and recite from the exact text, in the same language it was revealed in; Arabic. More than 10 million Muslims have completely memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover, and can recite it from memory without looking at it.
No one sees or hears Allah, not even the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Nor are we able to use our senses to make some kind of contact with Him. However, we are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize this entire universe could not possibly come into existence on its own. Something had to design it all and then put it into motion. This is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something we can understand.
We know from the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) the proofs for the existence of God (Allah) are most obvious to us in our everyday surroundings. Anyone with understanding would quickly acknowledge His existence provided they are not so stubborn as to ignore the obvious evidences right in front of us.
ubharedev
Apr 19, 2009, 10:00 PM
This life is test for hereafter. If anyone sees Allah then Where is test
Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.
Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.
Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.
Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah.
[Please visit "Science Proves Allah": Watch video of famous scientists admit Quran is from Allah and even accept Islam]
Islam Guide: Video Clips of Scientists Comments on Science in the Quran on sceince (http://www.islamyesterday.com/science/)
Science Islam - Scientists Comment on the Quran (http://www.scienceislam.com/scientists_quran.php)
The Quran is the best of proofs for the existence of Allah and today over one and half billion people memorize and recite from the exact text, in the exact same language it was revealed in; Arabic. More than 10 million Muslims have completely memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover, and can recite it from memory without looking at it.
No one sees or hears Allah, not even the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Nor are we able to use our senses to make some kind of contact with Him. However, we are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize this entire universe could not possibly come into existence on its own. Something had to design it all and then put it into motion. This is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something we can understand.
We know from the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) the proofs for the existence of God (Allah) are most obvious to us in our everyday surroundings. Anyone with understanding would quickly acknowledge His existence provided they are not so stubborn as to ignore the obvious evidences right in front of us.
Can you explain me, what I have underlined above.
Jesus was sent by Allah, wasn't it?
Do you really have any evidance of it or just you are saying.
But if Jesus was sent by Allah then why he established new religion(christianity).
And also there are many controversies and huge distance between Islam and Christianity.
One of it is Christian used to eat pig in their meal and on other hand it is taboo for Islam.
Please be careful don't make any statement. Because I heard that you people can make any statement round and round to justify it.
Peaceful1
Apr 21, 2009, 07:02 AM
Can you explain me, what I have underlined above.
Jesus was sent by Allah, wasn't it?
Do you really have any evidance of it or just you are saying.
But if Jesus was sent by Allah then why he established new religion(christianity).
And also there are many controversies and huge distance between Islam and Christianity.
One of it is Christian used to eat pig in their meal and on other hand it is taboo for Islam.
Please be careful don't make any statement. Because I heard that you people can make any statement round and round to justify it.
Remember
When we answer questions about Islam it is important to know, we cannot lie. If we lie, we could go to Hell forever.
Everything about Islam, Allah and Muhammad has been properly recorded and preserved. It is easy to find out if someone is lying about the teachings of Islam.
Islam is all about the worship of the One True God, the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. We believe in these prophets and their message.
Sometimes questions contain statements that are not true and before we can answer those questions we have to straighten out the mistakes.
Islam is there, for time immemorial -since man first put foot on earth. Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him), is not the founder of the Religion of Islam. In fact, Qur’an says in Surah Fatir, Ch. 35, Verse 24... ‘There is not a nation or a tribe…there has never been a nation or a people, to whom a warner has not been sent’. The Qur’an says in Surah Raad, Ch.13, Verse 7... ‘And to every nation and to every people have we sent a guide’. That means, there were messengers and guides, send to all the nations of the world. But by name, only 25 Prophets of Almighty God are mentioned in the Holy Qur’an by name. For example Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammed (Peace be upon him). But our beloved Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him), is mentioned in the Hadith, has said that… ' There were more than 1,24,000 Messengers sent on the face of the earth.' All the messengers that came before Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) -they were only sent for their people, and their message was only meant for a particular time. The messengers that came were sent for their own people, and their message was meant for a particular time. But Holy Qur’an says in Surah Ahzab, Ch. 33, Verse 40... ‘Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the messenger of Allah (SWT). He is the messenger of Almighty God, and the seal of the Prophets - and Allah is all knowing and full of knowledge’. Holy Qur’an says... ‘Muhammed (Peace be upon him) is last and final messenger, sent on the face of the earth, and Muhammed (Peace be upon him) was not sent, only for the Muslims or the Arabs’. The Holy Qur’an says in Surah Ambiya, Ch. 21,Verse 107... ‘That We have sent thee… that is, Prophet Muhammed, as a mercy to all the creatures’ -As a mercy to all the world, as a mercy to the whole of humanity. The Holy Qur’an says in Surah Saba, Ch. 34, Verse 28... (Arabic)... ‘That We have sent thee…that is, Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him), as a universal Messenger giving them glad tidings, and warning them against sin.
Quran is the evidence Jesus(pbuh) was sent by Allah, Hes one of the Messenger of Allah.
& Jesus(pbuh) didn't established new religion.
Position of Jesus in Islam
Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).
We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt).
We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe.
We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh).
We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.
We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.
It is a critical matter of faith for Muslims to believe in the original revelations that came down to Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus, just as it is is important for Muslims to believe in the revelation of the Quran that came to Muhammad, peace be upon him. The key word here however, is "original." As we all know the origin of the Bible is clouded with centuries of copying, translating and passing down information, now long lost with only copies of manuscripts remaining to remind us of what once was the Bible.
The Bible is a collection of writings by many different authors, the Quran is a dictation (or recitation). The speaker in the Quran - in the first person - is God Almighty (Allah) talking directly to man. In the Bible you have many men writing about God and you have in some places the word of God speaking to men and still in other places you have some men simply writing about history or personal exchanges of information to one another (ex: Epistle of John 3). The Bible in the English King James Version consists of 66 small books. About 18 of them begin by saying: This is the revelation God gave to so and so… The rest make no claim as to their origin. You have for example the beginning of the book of Jonah which begins by saying: The word of the Lord came to Jonah the son of Elmitaeh saying… quote and then it continues for two or three pages.
Muslims should respect the Bible because it does still contain some of the original teachings of Allah. But there is no need to go to Bible classes or purchase one to read to try to learn about what our purpose is here in this life. The Quran makes it clear that Allah has indeed, perfected our "way of life" for us and has conferred on us His favor and has chosen for us to submit to Him in Islam.
ubharedev
Apr 24, 2009, 01:08 AM
Ok Give the answer clearly below.
Well you are writing all from Quran.Which you describe book of God written by him only.
It is the book of God so we can't take it as a proof.
Because tomorrow I wrote one book and declare as a sacred and said I am the only mighty God.Are you going to believe this? No... right!
So Quran itself is the book of God so we can't take it as evidence or Proof.
You can explain what is Quran all about but that is not needed here.
Miracle is another part; curing one, give life to dead this is not possible.
And it was not possible too.This are all the stories written to believe, yes it is like this only, it is true, no one can deny.
Actually all this stories you know, why they created?
You and all are watching television right? After some period advertisement comes. And this is going on frequently.
Buy seeing every now and then we assume that what the advertisement is saying is the correct one.
We go shop and buy the products that frequently seens on television, isn't it? Although there are lots of other products.
So its same, when you hear same stories thousand of time you adict to believe what is in the story.
And all the miracle are only stories at the time of messengers.
And religion is like a trap. We can't think beyond that if we fully accept as it is.
You said above modern christian not believe Jesus birth without male intervention, I think that's right.
Because we don't know or we were not so advanced at that time to do DNA test or to find out how the child takes birth.
Proof the existence of God with any other thing.
ubharedev
Apr 24, 2009, 01:15 AM
Ok Peaceful1,
Then why is the difference between those religion.
And why Jesus go for his own teachings of religion or establishing religion.
He say God is Yehuva not Allah, why?
Sorry for spell of Yehuva if wrong.
Wasn't he betrayed Allah for his own teaching.
And how one can say,"My father is my neighbour".
If Jesus had been sent by Allah then why he told that his father is Yehuva.
Now don't tell that Allah and Yehuva is same.
And you didn't explain about pig controversy.
Can you eat pig? But Jesus never told anybody or himself not to eat pig meat.
Where on other hand it is taboo in Islam religion of Allah.
Didn't Jesus really betrayed Allah? He must sent to Hell,wasn't he?If Jesus really sent by Allah as his messenger.
I know that you don't have answer for that.
Ok answer this, now I want to know whether Islam or Allah is really for all or just for Muslim. Is God(Allah) really the creator and caretaker of all or not.
And on other hand are really follow what you are saying and what is written in Islam.
Or you just talking one and doing different thing.
How all human are being seen in Quran.
Are they descriminated in Muslim or non-muslim or race or treated as same for Allah?
Is there is explanation of this in Quran.
carbonite
Apr 24, 2009, 06:08 AM
Jesus (pbuh) was born a Jew so he did not eat pork.
It does not say you can eat pig (pork) in the Bible, Some folks just say it does.
Peaceful1
Apr 24, 2009, 10:05 PM
Ok Give the answer clearly below.
Well you are writing all from Quran.Which you describe book of God written by him only.
It is the book of God so we can't take it as a proof.
Because tomorrow I wrote one book and declare as a sacred and said I am the only mighty God.Are you going to believe this? No......right!
So Quran itself is the book of God so we can't take it as evidence or Proof.
You can explain what is Quran all about but that is not needed here.
Miracle is another part; curing one, give life to dead this is not possible.
And it was not possible too.This are all the stories written to believe, yes it is like this only, it is true, no one can deny.
Actually all this stories you know, why they created?
There are more than a thousand verses in the Glorious Qur’an, containing scientific facts. Many facts mentioned in the Qur’an have been discovered in the last few centuries. But science has not advanced to a level where it can confirm every statement of the Qur’an.
Suppose 80% of all that is mentioned in the Qur’an has been proved 100% correct. About the remaining 20%, science makes no categorical statement, since it has not advanced to a level, where it can either prove or disprove these statements. With the limited knowledge that we have, we cannot say for sure whether even a single percentage or a single verse of the Qur’an from this 20% portion is wrong. Thus when 80% of the Qur’an is 100% correct and the remaining 20% is not disproved, logic says that even the 20% portion is correct.
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ubharedev
Apr 24, 2009, 11:30 PM
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There are more than a thousand verses in the Glorious Qur’an, containing scientific facts. Many facts mentioned in the Qur’an have been discovered in the last few centuries. But science has not advanced to a level where it can confirm every statement of the Qur’an.
Suppose 80% of all that is mentioned in the Qur’an has been proved 100% correct. About the remaining 20%, science makes no categorical statement, since it has not advanced to a level, where it can either prove or disprove these statements. With the limited knowledge that we have, we cannot say for sure whether even a single percentage or a single verse of the Qur’an from this 20% portion is wrong. Thus when 80% of the Qur’an is 100% correct and the remaining 20% is not disproved, logic says that even the 20% portion is correct.
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Allah's Quran - Quran - Divine Book (http://allahsquran.com/quran_divine_book.php)
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You are neither answering my questions nor proving God existence by yourself.
You are just explaining the versus in Quran.
And that too, we can read and understand.
Please read the question of this thread and give answer according to it.
Now, I am asking last question to you and just answer as simple as you can and this question applies to everyone.
Peaceful1 please don't explain versus of Quran for this simple question.
Just answer in one sentence.
Please take a paper and pen and then go for question, write the answer on paper as your going through question to question.
Q 1) Suppose if you born in Christian family who would be your God and you follow which religion?
For example: My answer would be; My God would be Jesus/Yehuva and I will follow the Christian religion or Bible.
Q 2) If you born in Hindu family who would be your God and which religion you would follow?
My answer will be; My God would be any God or Goddess from Hindu and I would be the follower of Gita, Ved or Shastras(whatever comes under Hinduism).
Q 3) If you born in Muslim family who would be your God and which religion you would follow?
My answer will be: My God would be Allah and I would be the follower of Islam.
Q 4)What if you born in Buddhist family who would be your God and which religion you would follow?
My answer, My God will be Buddha and would be the follower of Buddhism.
Now answer this 4 simple questions and you are going to reveal the Truth of your(yourself) existence.
Carbonite I am also expecting answer to this question from you too.
Just gives answer with you conscience and logic. Don't refer any science, versus of any holy Book.
Just think you are a child who don't know what is religion and what is God.
Keep it as simple as it is.
But there is another few question are there. Don't worry not that much of hard.
Q 1) If you are orphan and you are adopted by any Christian family when you are 3-4 years old but your original( I say original) parents were Muslim then by being with Christian family who would be your God and religion.
My answer is same as Q 1 above.
Q 2)Same situation but adopted by Hindu family who would be your God and which religion you follow.
My answer is same as Q 2 above.
Q 3) Same situation but adopted by Muslim family but original parents were Christian then who would be your God and which religion you follow?
My answer is same as Q 3 above.
Q 4) Same situation but adopted by Buddhist family but original parents were Muslim then who would be your God and which religion you follow?
My answer is same as Q 4 above.
In above Questions consider you original parents are from the religion which you are following now.
Just make it simple answer it.No versus no reference.
I think almost 99.99% people would give the same answer as mine.
And who are not giving 99.99% as answers means they are not thinking like 99.99% people.Means they are mentally challenged.They don't want to accept the truth.
And we also see how complex anyone make it, means they intentionally don't want to answer this question.
Because they now this is the truth of life.
I already said that in previous thread. Religion is the source of God.
Where you born that will be your God.
And person making it complex means they are blind they need rest in life an for that person I am not going to reply.
Peaceful1
Apr 25, 2009, 01:24 AM
[QUOTE=ubharedev;1688376]Ok Peaceful1,
Then why is the difference between those religion.
And why Jesus go for his own teachings of religion or establishing religion.
Jesus(pbuh) never teach from his own.
People lied about the revelations, changed their scriptures and abused and even murdered the prophets whom Allah sent to them.
"And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while they know it.
It is not (possible) for any human being to whom Allah has given the Book & Al-Hukma (the knowledge & understanding of the laws of religion, etc.) & Prophethood to say to the people: "Be my worshippers rather than Allah's." On the contrary (he would say): "Be you Rabbaniyun (learned men of religion who practice what they know & also preach others), because you are teaching the Book, & you are studying it." [Noble Quran 3:78-79]
Prophets of Allah only ask people to worship Allah, as One God without partners. They would never ask people to worship them or anyone or anything else. Allah tells us in the Quran:
Nor would he (a messenger of Allah) order you to take angels & Prophets for lords (gods). Would he order you to disbelieve after you have submitted to Allah's Will?
[Noble Quran 3:80]
if you study the bible, it reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary.
"…I with the finger of God cast out devils…." [The Bible, Luke 11:20]
"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: & my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." [The Bible, John 5:30]
Whoever say I seek not my own will, but God's will is a Muslim.
Muslim means any one who submits his or her will, to Almighty God.
He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. In the Gospel of Mathew:
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven & earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, & shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do & teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes & Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." [The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]
The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses:
"… and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me." [The Bible, John 14:24]
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, & Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent." [The Bible, John 17:3]
Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God
"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know." [The Bible, Acts 2:22]
Today's bible is not the Complete Word of God. Its corrupted. All the other religious scriptures except Quran, have interpolations, additions, deletions or revisions.
The Qur’an is the only religious scripture on the face of the earth which has been maintained it its original form, because
Allah (swt) promises in the Qur’an, in Surah Al Hijr, chapter 15 verse 9
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)."
We believe only that portion of the Bible which matches to the Quran.
People began to separate into different groups due to their rejection of truth & denial of clear proofs becoming evident to them from their Lord.
"And the people of the Scripture (Jews & Christians) differed not amongst themselves until after clear evidence came to them.
And they were not commanded anything more than this; to worship Allah, alone (without making partners with Him in worship) and establish regular devotional prayers and pay the charity due to the poor; and this is the correct Way (way of life and religion). [Noble Quran 98:4-5]
Allah warns the Muslims not to fall into the same trap as the people before them, by disputing with each other and separating into different religious groups:
And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them. It is they for whom there is an awful torment.
On the Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) when some faces will become white and some faces will become black; as for those whose faces will become black (to them will be said): "Did you reject Faith after accepting it? Then taste the torment (in Hell) for rejecting Faith." [Noble Quran 3:105-106]
Allah will only accept true submission, obedience and in purity and peace to His commandments.
And whoever seeks a Way of life other than submission and surrender to Allah's Will (Islam), it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
[Noble Quran 3:85]
To believe in Allah and follow His Commandments has been the message of all prophets of monotheism.
Pork prohibited in the Bible
The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you".
"Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."
[Leviticus 11:7-8]
Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy
"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."
[Deuteronomy 14:8]
A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.
Regarding Allah.
"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.
On page one [1] of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allah" seventeen [17] times.
Every hotel and motel has a Bible. Next time you see one look in the introduction, you will find samples of the different languages they have translated. For Arabic they have translated the verse in the New Testament in Arabic from the famous verse in the Gospel John 3:16 -
"For God so loved the world..."
- and the word the translators used in Arabic for "God" is the very same word used by Muslims around the planet, "Allah."
Where Does the word "Allah" Come From?
"Allah" comes from the Arabic word "elah"a god' or something worshiped. - (Arabic) means '
This word (elah) can be made plural (gods), as in "aleha" and it can be male or female just as the word in English can be "goddess."
The Muslims prefer calling the Supreme Creator, Allah, instead of by the English word ‘God’. The Arabic word, ‘Allah’, is pure and unique, unlike the English word ‘God’, which can be played around with.
If you add ‘s’ to the word God, it becomes ‘Gods’, that is the plural of God. Allah is one and singular, there is no plural of Allah. If you add ‘dess’ to the word God, it becomes ‘Goddess’ that is a female God. There is nothing like male Allah or female Allah. Allah has no gender. If you add the word ‘father’ to ‘God’ it becomes ‘God-father’. God-father means someone who is a guardian. There is no word like ‘Allah-father’. If you add the word ‘mother’ to ‘God’, it becomes ‘God-mother’. There is nothing like ‘Allah-mother’ in Islam. Allah is a unique word. If you prefix tin before the word God, it becomes tin-God i.e. fake God. Allah is a unique word, which does not conjure up any mental picture nor can it be played around with. Therefore the Muslims prefer using the Arabic word ‘Allah’ for the Almighty.
Some may argue that God does not become a human being but only takes a human form. If God only takes a human form but does not become a human being, He should not possess any human qualities. We know that all the ‘God-men’, have human qualities and failings. They have all the human needs such as the need to eat, sleep, etc.
The worship of God in human form is therefore a logical fallacy and should be abhorred in all its forms and manifestations.
That is the reason why the Qur’an speaks against all forms of anthropomorphism. The Glorious Qur’an says in the following verse:
"There is nothing whatever like unto Him." [Al-Qur’an 42:11]
God does not perform ungodly acts:
The Qur’an says: "Allah is never unjust In the least degree." [Al-Qur’an 4:40]
God can be unjust if He chooses to be so, but the moment God does injustice, He ceases to be God.
God can make mistakes if He wants to, but He does not make mistakes because making a mistake is an ungodly act. The Qur’an says:
"…my Lord never errs." [Holy Qur’an 20:52]
The moment God makes a mistake, he ceases to be God.
God does not forget:
"…my Lord never errs, nor forgets." [Al-Qur’an 20:52]
The Islamic concept of God is that God has power over all things. The Qur’an says in several places (Al -Qur’an 2:106; 2:109; 2:284; 3:29; 16:77; and 35:1):
"For verily Allah has power over all things"
Further, the Glorious Qur’an says:
"Allah is the doer of all that He intends." [Al-Qur’an 85:16]
We must keep in mind that Allah intends only Godly acts and not ungodly acts.
Regarding : Is Allah Just for All
Allah mention in the Quran
We recite them to you (O Muhammad peace be upon him) in truth, and Allah wills no injustice to the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns).
And to Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And all matters go back (for decision) to Allah.
You [true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and commandments with him] are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Maruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah. And had the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) believed, it would have been better for them; among them are some who have faith, but most of them are Al-Fasiqun (disobedient to Allah - and rebellious against Allah's Command).[Noble Quran 3:108-110]
Whoever believes in Allah, as One God and is trying their best to follow the most recent of the prophets, peace be upon them all, could well be a Muslim (submitter to the Will of Allah) and as such, it is up to Allah to be their Judge, just as He is the Judge in all matters.
There is no racism in Islam
"O human kind, We have created you from a single pair of male and female, and have divided you into nations and tribes, so that you shall recognize each other, not that you shall despise each other, and the most honoured in the sight of Allah (swt) is the person who has Taqwa and Allah is all knowing, full of knowledge, and well acquainted with all things. This Verse of the Glorious Quran says that, O humankind, We have created you from a single pair of male and female that means the whole human race originates from a single pair of male and female. All the human beings in the world they have a common grandparent. And Allah (swt) says that We have divided the human race into nations and tribes, so that they shall recognize each other, not that they shall despise and fight amongst themselves. And the criteria for judgment, in the sight of Allah (swt) this verse says Does not depend on sex, caste, colour, creed or wealth but it depends, on Taqwa that is God consciousness, that is piety, that is righteousness. Anyone who is more righteous, who is more pious, who is more God-conscious, is honoured in the sight of Allah (swt) and Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted with all things. Further the Glorious Quran says in Surah Ar-Rum, Ch. No. 30, V. No. 22, that And amongst His signs, is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variation in your languages, and your colours. Verily in that, is a sign for those who know. The Glorious Quran says that Allah (swt) has created various types of languages and different colours black human being, white, brown, yellow and these are signs. These variations in colour and language, is not to despise each other, because every language that you have on the face of the earth it is a beautiful language. It may sound funny, if it is unique to you you may not have heard that language before it may sound funny but those people who speak that language, for them it is the most beautiful language. So Allah says He has created various languages and colours, so that you may recognize, you may know each other. And the Glorious Quran says in Surah Israa, Ch. No. 17, V. No. 70... (Arabic)... That Allah (swt) Almighty God, has honoured the children of Adam. Allah does not say that He has honoured only the Arabs or the Americans or a particular race but Almighty God has honoured all the children of Adam, irrespective of race, caste, colour, creed or sex.
Prophet Muhammed(pbuh) said in his last sermon
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.
are really follow what you are saying and what is written in Islam.
Or you just talking one and doing different thing.
Allahmdulillah, I try to follow Islam Completely.
But there are some Muslims who are dishonest, unreliable, who cheat, etc. & the media projects this as though only Muslims are involved in such activities. There are black sheep in every community. I know Muslims who are alcoholics and who can drink most of the non-Muslims under the table.
In spite of all the black sheep in the Muslim community, Muslims taken on the whole, yet form the best community in the world. We are the biggest community of tee-totallers as a whole, i.e. those who don’t imbibe alcohol. Collectively, we are a community which gives the maximum charity in the world. There is not a single person in the world who can even show a candle to the Muslims where modesty is concerned; where sobriety is concerned; where human values and ethics are concerned.
Peaceful1
Apr 25, 2009, 10:36 AM
You are neither answering my questions nor proving God existance by yourself.
You are just explaining the versus in Quran.
And that too, we can read and understand.
Please read the question of this thread and give answer according to it.
Now, I am asking last question to you and just answer as simple as you can and this question applies to everyone.
Peaceful1 please don't explain versus of Quran for this simple question.
Just answer in one sentence.
Please take a paper and pen and then go for question, write the answer on paper as your going through question to question.
Q 1) Suppose if you born in Christian family who would be your God and you follow which religion?
For example: My answer would be; My God would be Jesus/Yehuva and I will follow the Christian religion or Bible.
Q 2) If you born in Hindu family who would be your God and which religion you would follow?
My answer will be; My God would be any God or Goddess from Hindu and I would be the follower of Gita, Ved or Shastras(whatever comes under Hinduism).
Q 3) If you born in Muslim family who would be your God and which religion you would follow?
My answer will be: My God would be Allah and I would be the follower of Islam.
Q 4)What if you born in Buddhist family who would be your God and which religion you would follow?
My answer, My God will be Buddha and would be the follower of Buddhism.
Now answer this 4 simple questions and you are going to reveal the Truth of your(yourself) existance.
Carbonite I am also expecting answer to this question from you too.
Just gives answer with you conscience and logic. Don't refer any science, versus of any holy Book.
Just think you are a child who don't know what is religion and what is God.
Keep it as simple as it is.
But there is another few question are there. Don't worry not that much of hard.
Q 1) If you are orphan and you are adopted by any Christian family when you are 3-4 years old but your original( I say original) parents were Muslim then by being with Christian family who would be your God and religion.
My answer is same as Q 1 above.
Q 2)Same situation but adopted by Hindu family who would be your God and which religion you follow.
My answer is same as Q 2 above.
Q 3) Same situation but adopted by Muslim family but original parents were Christian then who would be your God and which religion you follow?
My answer is same as Q 3 above.
Q 4) Same situation but adopted by Buddhist family but original parents were Muslim then who would be your God and which religion you follow?
My answer is same as Q 4 above.
In above Questions consider you original parents are from the religion which you are following now.
Just make it simple answer it.No versus no reference.
I think almost 99.99% people would give the same answer as mine.
And who are not giving 99.99% as answers means they are not thinking like 99.99% people.Means they are mentally challenged.They don't want to accept the truth.
And we also see how complex anyone make it, means they intentionally don't want to answer this question.
Because they now this is the truth of life.
I already said that in previous thread. Religion is the source of God.
Where you born that will be your God.
And person making it complex means they are blind they need rest in life an for that person I am not going to reply.
You have asked good question.
"My special congratulations to you", because most of the people who believe in God are doing blind belief - he is a Christian, because his father is a Christian; he is a Hindu, because his father is a Hindu; the majority of the people in the world are blindly following the religion of their fathers.
Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) also said, "Each child is born in a state of "Fitrah"(as a Muslim), then his parents make him a Jew, Christian or a Zoroastrian, the way an animal gives birth to a normal offspring. Have you noticed any that were born mutilated?" (Collected by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim).
Islam is the religion of all Prophets, Adam to Muhammad. Children are not born out of any sin, original, inherited or derived. They are born on the religion of their nature, i.e. Islam.
The reason that I am congratulating is because you agree with the first part of the Shahada i.e. the Islamic Creed, ‘La ilaaha’ - meaning ‘there is no God’. So half my job is already done; now the only part left is ‘il lallah’ i.e. ‘BUT ALLAH’ which I have already did.
For more read my pervious posts again with open mind.
You still didn't reply to my question.
I ask you again this question "What is the definition of God?
If I dont know What is God, then I can't say that God doesnt exist.
For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God.
Concept of God in Islam
The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:
"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only. "Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. "He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]
The word ‘Assamad’ is difficult to translate. It means ‘absolute existence’, which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependent on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependent on Him.
Surah Ikhlas - the touchstone of theology:
Surah Ikhlas (Chapter 112) of the Glorious Qur’an, is the touchstone of theology. ‘Theo’ in Greek means God and ‘logy’ means study. Thus Theology means study of God and to Muslims this four line definition of Almighty God serves as the touchstone of the study of God. Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’. Since the attributes of Allah given in this chapter are unique, false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed using these verses.
The Muslims prefer calling the Supreme Creator, Allah, instead of by the English word ‘God’. The Arabic word, ‘Allah’, is pure and unique, unlike the English word ‘God’, which can be played around with.. . (for more information refer to my last post )
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Islam Guide: Video Clips of Scientists Comments on Science in the Quran on sceince
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Allah says in Surah Fussilat:
"Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?" [Al-Quran 41:53]
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (that is fake god) but Allah.
carbonite
Apr 27, 2009, 02:00 AM
Children follow their parents teachings. When they become adults they may or may not move on to reading other religious texts.
Stay in peace
ubharedev
Apr 29, 2009, 04:38 AM
Children follow their parents teachings. When they become adults they may or may not move on to reading other religious texts.
Stay in peace
But are you agree with Peaceful1 that Jesus was the son of Allah.
Then go to this site, where natural question arose in natural human being.
Cross check the link of Where did the sons of Adam and Eve.
If possible give answers to this questions or leave Christianily.
I will show you the religion based on only truth.
http://www.bible-study-online.juliantrubin.com/biblequestions.html
http://www.bible-study-online.juliantrubin.com/biblequestions/bible_question_15.html
Be loyal to yourself otherwise God won't love to you.