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pimp_mah_alpaka
Sep 29, 2008, 02:34 AM
Hey everyone! I had a great time reading peoples thoughts on what they thought of porn, but now I want to know peoples thoughts on america and australia. I don't mean to offend ANYONE when I say this but seriously, why do we (australians) have to do everything america does? We've died for them, lost millions because of them so on. Im just so sick of not being Australian!! And its true! Weres the vegemite? In america! Weres that boot thing? America! Lawn mower? America.. Hush hush.. Everything Australian has been turned into american! I mean.. Im trying not to swear! Where's the freakin aussie soldiers? FIGHTING A WAR THAT NEITHER AMERICA NOR AUSTRALIA IS INVOLVED IN SO WHY THE... DO WE HAVE TO FIGHT? Y do we hve to shed blood? Why cnt everyone get on with their lives and not have to worry about the other country? Im not meaning to offend, but does anyone at all think that aussies will be the next american.. Americans? Please tel me truthfully.

frangipanis
Oct 2, 2008, 06:54 PM
Hey everyone! I had a great time reading peoples thoughts on what they thought of porn, but now I wana know peoples thoughts on america and australia. I don't mean to offend ANYONE when I say this but seriously, why do we (australians) have to do everything america does? We've died for them, lost millions bc of them so on. Im just so sick of not being australian!!! And its true! Weres the vegemite? In america! Weres tht boot thing? America! Lawn mower? America.. Hush hush.. Everything australian has been turned into american! I mean.. Im tryin not to swear! Where's the freakin aussie soilders? FIGHTING A WAR THAT NEITHER AMERICA NOR AUSTRALIA IS INVOLVED IN SO WHY THE .... DO WE HAVE TO FIGHT? Y do we hve to shed blood? Y cnt everyone get on with their lives and not have to worry about the other country? Im not meaning to offend, but does anyone at all think that aussies will b the next american.. Americans?? Please tel me truthfully.


Naahhh... we never were and never could be American :)

However, older Australians of my grandfather's generation were especially grateful to the Americans for their involvement in the Pacific War during World War II. Here's a good point made by someone on Yahoo answers that helps explain why:
How did the Second World war (WWII) impact on Australia and its relationships with surrounding countries? - Yahoo! Answers (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080528045024AAp2iZb)

When in 1941 the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour and brought the USA into the war the British PM Winston Churchill refused to release Australian and NZ troops from the North Africa campaign because as he said Australia and NZ was expendable and beating the Germans was more important.

In 1941 Australia had a new PM (John Curtin) who famously published in a newspaper that Australia was turning its allegiance from the UK to the USA. You could argue that WW2 forged closer ties with the USA as over 1 million American servicemen passed through Australia.[/COLOR]

To put the significance of Australia's historical ties with the US into a broader context, you might find this helpful:
World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II)

Even so, and although our ties with the US will always be important (they're also a major trading partner), the world has been through a lot of changes since World War II and we have to be able to make decisions about when and where our military personnel are deployed based on our own judgments and interests. It was an enormous relief when Howard left office as his attitudes and policies did practically reduce Australia to a mere puppet of the Bush administration, which simply isn't in Australia's interests to be like that.

We are blessed with an abundance of highly capable independent thinkers and military analysts who given our cultural norms, geographical vantage point and talent for diplomacy, offer a unique and valuable view of the world. Rudd is more able to see this and his decision to withdraw Australian troops from Iraq came as a great relief to a lot of Australians.

I'm not sure what you mean about the boot thing and lawnmower lol... what are you talking about? Do you mean ugh boots?

tomder55
Oct 6, 2008, 08:11 AM
America loves almost everything Australian . We can't get enough Russell Crowe, Mel Gibson, Sam Neil ,Hugh Jackman ,Paul Hogan.Heath Ledger before he died was becoming a major star. We could not stop watching Steve Irwin .

You should be flattered ,America has always adopted what is best of a culture (that is why you don't see a lot of vegemite ) :)

As for the rest : Our countries are forever tied together by strategic interests . We need Australia and you need us .Face the facts . Without us you most likely would've been conquered by the Japanese. You would easily be dominated by the growing Chinese hegemony today.
We are kindred ;both born from the ancien British Empire. They sent prisoners there and dissidents here. Your very chaffiing at American is because of our independent natures.

Stratmando
Oct 6, 2008, 04:48 PM
I am American, an hope the whole world is not
"America", would be nice to go to Italy for a Pizza, not from Pizza Hut(Example only)but an Italian pizza, A burrito from Mexico, I would rather "Walkabout", than stroll through a Mall?
G' Day Mate.
I understand some places are like the Old west in reference to Gold Prospecting, also had a friend give me some Boulder Opal, Cool Stuff. Take Care again,

magprob
Oct 12, 2008, 10:16 PM
Australian beer tastes like rat piss.

magprob
Oct 13, 2008, 11:40 PM
I've tasted it. It was called Fosters.

pimp_mah_alpaka
Oct 30, 2008, 05:11 AM
I've tasted it. It was called Fosters.

I'm 15, I drink. And seriously, beer is *beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep* but you don't have 2 diss :cool:

bitofanoddbod
Nov 30, 2008, 07:48 AM
I'm british , I believe we have the same kind of problem , we are far too cultured , I can't remember anything british anymore and I don't think it was good in the first place
I truly want to go move over to australia :D

NeedKarma
Nov 30, 2008, 07:53 AM
I've tasted it. It was called Fosters.That's like the world tasting Miller Lite and saying that's American beer.

morra
Nov 1, 2011, 11:18 AM
I don't think we can compare two nations so easily and I don't think we have to. What benefits are there in <a href="http://www.shipping2australia.com/moving-to-australia.htm">moving to Australia</a> compared to moving to America? The answers here are very distinct and they prove my point.