Okay so am I the only one that thinks the world should have a say in turning this think on on Wednesday. Didn't Nostradamus predict the end of the world with a black hole or something?? Anyone else scared of what this is capable of?

Large Hadron Collider nearly ready - The Big Picture - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/08/the_large_hadron_collider.html)

I've actually read a decent amount of articles about this place... overall, it sounds really awesome. What can I say, I'm a nerd?

That's okay... I think we all have a little nerd in us. Lol. But that doesn't mean that it won't completely annihilate the planet.

Well, with the research done on it, they claim that the chance of it forming a black hole is almost nil.

... granted... almost nil... is... um... not nothing.

you well some birth control promises that... lol. There are too many variables for my piece of mind... explain some of this to me or even post some links about it so that I might better understand.

Hehehe the End Of The World is Neigh...
Or not: Hadron boffins: Our meddling will not destroy universe | The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/05/lhc_to_leave_fabric_of_spacetime_continuum_unrippe d/)

Well someone certainly isn't too happy about it happening;

Legal bid to stop CERN atom smasher from 'destroying the world' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2650665/Legal-bid-to-stop-CERN-atom-smasher-from-destroying-the-world.html)

YouTube - "Its The End Of The World As We Know It" by REM-Music Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmBDgAcIt-0&feature=related)
Lol

I don't remember the US or other countries asking permission before they detonated atomic bombs. This isn't that different - only more contained.

Here's something to help you understand it more:

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Despite the awesome geek-rap... I still don't understand! Ha ha!

I find smart girls sexy - I'm weird that way. :D

Oooh, there's nothing wrong with that! I think Kirstie Allsopp (http://www.movingsense.co.uk/img/photo.jpg) and Carol Vorderman are pretty damn hot! I'm sure if they explained it to me I'd understand!

But that's a WHOLE different thread! Ha ha!

Here's a good article about the end of the world which talks about the HLC;
BBC NEWS | Magazine | Why the fascination with the end of the world? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7600966.stm)

To be honest, I think they're -footing around a bit, doing all these tests... if it were me, I'd just turn it all on and hope for the best! He he he!

This is my fave comment on the article (right at the bottom);

It's my 18th birthday on Wednesday. I hope this is codswallop as it would be a pretty rubbish birthday.
Laura Walker, King's Lynn

Bless!

There is a rumour that its going to be the end of the world tomorrow because they're recreating a minature 'big bang' and theres a 2% change it can turn into a black hole?Hello I:

Yup, but your odds are wrong. It's about 1 in 35 TRILLION. You have a better shot at winning the lottery.

excon

Hello I:

Yup, but your odds are wrong. It's about 1 in 35 TRILLION. You have a better shot at winning the lottery.

excon

Is it too late to get a ticket? :D

Whatever happens, happens. I guess we'll find out on Wednesday. That would suck, my birthday is September 14. :(

There is a rumour that its going to be the end of the world tomorrow because they're recreating a minature 'big bang' and theres a 2% change it can turn into a black hole?

If the odds of this happening where really that HIGH do you think they would have ever been allowed to build the thing??

Hello I:

Yup, but your odds are wrong. It's about 1 in 35 TRILLION. You have a better shot at winning the lottery.

excon

Imagine winning the lottery on the day the world ends! Now THAT would be bad luck! :D

If the odds of this happening where really that HIGH do you think they would have ever been allowed to build the thing?! I do not doubt that there were extensive discussions between many very smart people about that. But even when they all are all "sure" for 99.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999. 999 % (or even more), that STILL leaves a very very small chance that today will be the last day we can post here on AMHD, and that everything on and in earth will no longer exist after tomorrow, other than in the matter and energy of a rather small black hole.
Just total destruction of earth, caused by a bunch of too curious scientists and politicians who took one step too far in nuclear research.

These scientists and politicians surely will have done their homework, but nobody can ever be sure that their calculations are correct. All this type of possibly fatal research should at least be carried out on the moon or elsewhere, but NOT on earth. And if we can not do it there, than may be we just should not do that research at all.

And why was the world's population never openly asked for their opinion in this ?
Everyone and everything on earth is involved. Where is their decision and influence?

The real question here is of course : is there a limit to scientific research in view of the POSSIBLE consequences of that research for all on earth?
That question goes from gene/DNA research to nuclear research to the insane research on biological weapons and on diseases like pocks, plaque, ebola, etc.

Is there a limit, what would that limit be, and how do you control that ?

:rolleyes:

I'm not worried. Based on my understanding of everything, nothing bad will happen, but we stand to learn a hell of a lot and it opens up a whole new world to science.

Of course, given that it might screw with the fabric of time, it's possible it won't fire up at all. Theoretical physics and the grandfather paradox and all...

See you guys tomorrow. And the day after that. And the day after that...

Snap, only good can come of this (yea I know there's a chance the world will be destroyed)

Imagine winning the lottery on the day the world ends! Now THAT would be bad luck!Oooiiiiii : tomorrow the National Lottery here is drawing the biggest jackpot price ever...

That must be an indication, something to take into consideration...

The draw takes place at 14:00 GMT precisely... Set your alarmclocks !

Have a look here what may be ahead of you ..... (Link) - A MUST SEE !!! <----- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM&feature=related)

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Stephen Hawking believes in it. That's good enough for me.

Stephen Hawking: Large Hadron Collider vital for humanity - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2710348/Stephen-Hawking-Large-Hadron-Collider-vital-for-humanity.html)

Imagine winning the lottery on the day the world ends! Now THAT would be bad luck! :D

That would be my luck. :eek:

I swear, if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any. ;)

Just checking... everyone's still here... right?

Has this Hadron Collider thing happened yet? I wasn't sure of the time that it would be happening.

Thanks!

Yeah, it's been on the news here this morning, they turned it on at 8:30 GMT!

A scientist counted down, and amusing said;

"5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... NOTHING!"

It would have been much funnier if he would have started screaming as a joke! Ha ha!

More here from the Beeb;
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Success for 'Big Bang' experiment (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7604293.stm)

Although that was only another test, they don't start doing the 'dangerous' stuff for a while yet!

Bear in mind this is simply a test.
Full power experiments aren't due to start until early 2009.

Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the earth yet? (http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/)

Just so you can keep up to date...

Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the earth yet? (http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/)

just so you can keep up to date...

Oh if I could give you a greenie for that! Ha ha ha! Awesome! :D

Holy crap, Websense blocks that URL, why would they do that??
I'll have to check it out at home.

Fearing end of the world, girl commits suicide (http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/10end.htm)

What a travesty. If only journalists would listen to what scientists have to say on the matter and stop bigging up the whole black hole thing.

Holy crap, Websense blocks that URL, why would they do that????
I'll have to check it out at home.

It just says NO :p

The world didn't end! Hoo-ray!!! :D

::looks around:: Are we still alive? ;)

Yay, I guess I get to celebrate my birthday after all. :) Darnit, now I have to clean the house and make plans. :(

I thought I'd just upload this for posterity; the Google banner for today! :)

If the odds of this happening where really that HIGH do you think they would of ever been allowed to build the thing ?!?!
Of course.
The human capacity for denial when we think we are doing the right thing is enormous.

of course.
The human capacity for denial when we think we are doing the right thing is enormous.
As is the human capacity for delusion when all evidence suggests we're doing the right thing.

There remains the validity in questioning the wisdom of uncontrolled scientific research.
This time it went well. But once the collider come at "full steam"?
Or the next collider with still higher power ?

Like I already stated : "I do not doubt that there were extensive discussions between many very smart people about that. But even when they all are all "sure" for 99.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999.999. 999 % (or even more), that still leaves a very very small chance that it goes wrong!

I do not doubt that scientists and politicians have done their homework, but nobody can ever be sure that their calculations are correct. And why was the world's population never openly asked for their opinion in this ?
Everyone and everything on earth was involved. Where is their decision and influence?

The real question here is of course : is there a limit to scientific research in view of the POSSIBLE consequences of that research for earth and all on earth?

That question goes from gene/DNA research to nuclear research to the insane research on biological weapons and diseases like pocks, plaque, ebola, etc.

Is there a limit, and if you agree to that : what would that limit be, and how do you control that ?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I know these scientists might be concentrating on the task at hand, but surely someone should be keeping an eye on stuff like this;
BBC NEWS | Technology | 'Big bang' experiment is hacked (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7616622.stm)

"So lads, erm, who shall we hack today? Shall we try that LHC malarky?"
"Nah, that will be heavily locked down won't i ... ooooh, I'm in!"

Now THAT's scary stuff! Ha ha!


...nobody can ever be sure that their calculations are correct.

1+1=2... I'm pretty sure that's correct! (In normal denary fashion, none of this other fancy rubbish that is!) He he he!

I liked this interview with the LHC rapper:

Rapping the Higgs Boson: Katherine McAlpine (aka AlpineKat) talks particle physics, the Large Hadron Collector, and Rapping at CERN - O'Reilly News (http://news.oreilly.com/2008/08/rapping-the-higgs-boson-kather.html)

It turns out that CERN never reached max. power capacity last week.
There were several liquid helium leaks, and the experiments had to be stopped prematurely.
When the same problems re-occured the following days, CERN decided to do a proper repair.
Therefore the entire ring has to be warmed up to the surrounding temperature (which will take about 1.5 to 2 weeks), have the leaks repaired, and have the ring cooled down again to near zero Kelvin (which will take another 2 weeks again).
Total expected repair time is at least about a full month !

The same threat is still there : this could happen to all of us any time in the future : LOOK and SEE !!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM&feature=related)

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Could this be the reason we are all still here:
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | What happened to the Big Bang machine? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7627631.stm)

It's all a Myth... Myth.

It's all a Myth...Myth.Hey you,
Welcome back. :)

Yo

Further to my post #41

Just a couple of minutes ago it has been announced that the repairs will take much MUCH longer, at least to early spring 2009... (6 to 8 months !)

How strange, how surprising, how unexpected...

Could there perhaps be other reasons for this unexpected delay??


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Remember : The threat for all of us on Earth is still there : this could happen to all of us any time in the future.
CLICK LINK TO LOOK and SEE !!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM&feature=related)