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arcura
Sep 4, 2008, 09:01 PM
Lk 5:33-39): Some people asked Jesus, «The disciples of John fast often and say long prayers, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees. Why is it that your disciples eat and drink?». Then Jesus said to them, «You can't make wedding guests fast while the bridegroom is with them. But later the bridegroom will be taken from them and they will fast in those days».
Jesus also told them this parable, «No one tears a piece from a new coat to put it on an old one; otherwise the new will be torn and the piece taken from the new will not match the old. No one puts new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and be spilled, and the skins will be destroyed as well. But new wine must be put into fresh skins. Yet no one who has tasted old wine is eager to get new wine, but says: The old is good».
To me this is about time and timing, there is a time for all things.
:confused: Please how do you see it?
:) Peace and kindness,:)
Fred

cogs
Sep 4, 2008, 11:11 PM
In a way, yes, because the old law was the way of the pharisees up to the time of jesus. When something new, jesus, came along, it was time for a change, a new covenant of spiritual fasting. It certainly didn't fit in with the old customs. This internal spiritual fasting, circumcision, and baptism of the holy spirit was something someone like the pharisees just couldn't grasp, because the two ways are incompatible.

arcura
Sep 5, 2008, 08:11 AM
Cogs,
Thank you for your opinion about that.
Fred

revdrgade
Sep 5, 2008, 01:50 PM
I believe it is a message not only for the Jews of Jesus' time but it is one many need to heed today.

He was NOT talking about just a time but about a totally NEW COVENANT/TESTAMENT. The time had come when Jesus would fulfill the Old Covenant which was only a shadow of the reality of God's good news of becoming His children.

arcura
Sep 5, 2008, 07:09 PM
revdrgade,
Very Good.
Thanks for your thoughts on that.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Choux
Sep 6, 2008, 02:24 PM
Not really, Fred.

These stories with a deeper meaning(parables) are not about the same thing. :)

There is Jesus as the bridegroom parable...
And the old versus new parable of spiritual insight.

Best wishes,

arcura
Sep 6, 2008, 02:43 PM
Thanks Choux.
Fred