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Princess-IMYM
Aug 24, 2008, 02:40 PM
Ok, so I'm 15 (16 in 2 weeks! Woo!) and I've always thought that I was completely straight. I read yaoi and things but I've never been attracted to a girl, but I've noticed while talking to a friend who is similar, I have a fascination about breasts!

My group of friends always pretend to be lesbian with each other and we grope whenever we feel like it because we're childish like that, but I like it so now I'm paranoid.
I can't visualize myself going out with a girl, but I can imagine a one night stand thing going on, I'm attracted to men, I definitely know that.

I was attracted to women at a stage when I was younger (around 9 ish) at that time I had a bi-curious best friend and she "used" me to test herself so we sort of had sex, I don't know if it counts though because neither of us knew what we were doing, we just went with the flow.
And now I'm confused and a little dreading of what I am. Can someone tell me?:confused:

jrsg
Aug 24, 2008, 03:14 PM
First of all, happy birthday! Sweet 16 is always fun! I just turned 16 4 months ago, and had a blast. I'm still waiting to get my licence though... :)
But, back on topic...

Do you need to know right now?
It sounds like you are self confident, and happy with who you are, so don't worry about it. Hetrosexual, homosexual, bisexual, does it matter? Those are just titles. Just do what feels right to you. You're 16, you have plenty of time to figure out your sexual orientation. Don't rush it, or stress out over it.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 24, 2008, 03:25 PM
Right now, I think I'll go with being Bi-curious, which all my friends are (hence the groping and touching we do) but I like to be prepared so I've become a little paranoid and impatient with myself...

jrsg
Aug 24, 2008, 03:30 PM
I wish I could say more to help, but I can't say I relate to you with this... I am fortunate enough to have always been sure of that kind of thing. I'm sure someone who can relate to you more will come along on this forum to help you.

Good Luck!

Princess-IMYM
Aug 24, 2008, 03:37 PM
Yes, I hope they do :) and thank you

Jigicou
Aug 25, 2008, 10:39 PM
Hey what's up I know exactly were you are coming from(well not exactly I`m a guy) I`m a male bi-sexual. Being gay or a lesbin has to do with both genes and a choice. Some people are born more gay than others(ie richard simons) some more straight than others and some in the middle. This can effect you choice but not decide it. What your going threw can`t be solved in a day it might take a year or more it's a decision you will have to deciede for yourself. However don`t take it lightly when I came out of the closett my whole family and some friends just abandend me. My father never talks to me any more and I`ve lost contact with most of my family. But I did have true friends who stayed with me and supported my decission. I hope I helped and if you ever need any one to talk to about this you can always email me on the site.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 26, 2008, 09:53 AM
Hm, thanks :) But I can't see anyone abandoning me (not that I care about anyway, like my dad) because all of my friends are open to anything, one of them has told us he's bisexual but we didn't care and still love him, and as I said me and my friends are always doing acts such as touching, hugging and sometimes kissing, which has brought this up in me.

Jigicou
Aug 26, 2008, 01:26 PM
Just be careful not everyone's is as accepting as your friends may be

Fr_Chuck
Aug 26, 2008, 07:16 PM
Many people are not open and accepting, you will find that there is still a large group of people that hold moral values that this behavior is still wrong. But often being molested as you were at 9 years of age could have caused sexual issues within yourself.

lillycook1991
Aug 29, 2008, 12:46 PM
I think this is normal. During the teenage years you go through a lot of changes and you get very confused. I think most people experience some sort of uncertaincy of their sexual orientation. I was similar, but then something did happen with a girl and I didn't like it and then I knew.

Best of luck

Princess-IMYM
Aug 29, 2008, 02:01 PM
Thank you very much, I think I'm happy with just considering it. I don't care about closed minded people, I only care about my friends and family, if strangers don't like it then they can just ignore me, if they start trouble I'll call either the police or deal with it myself.

And Fr_Chuck, I wasn't molested, I was all for it, I had another friend who was two years older than me and she told me about sex and how it works, I was (and still am fortunately or unfortunately I don't know) a sexually driven child. It was also her that made me try having sex with my boyfriend at the time because she told us that you do it if your in love and want to marry them, and we thought we were, but nothing happened since we didn't know what to do and we were only 9 and didn't have proper working parts yet.

Alty
Aug 29, 2008, 02:37 PM
Thank you very much, i think im happy with just considering it. I dont care about closed minded people, i only care about my friends and family, if strangers dont like it then they can just ignore me, if they start trouble i'll call either the police or deal with it myself.

And Fr_Chuck, i wasnt molested, i was all for it, i had another friend who was two years older than me and she told me about sex and how it works, i was (and still am fortunately or unfortunately i dont know) a sexually driven child. It was also her that made me try having sex with my boyfriend at the time because she told us that you do it if your in love and want to marry them, and we thought we were, but nothing happened since we didnt know what to do and we were only 9 and didnt have proper working parts yet.

Sounds like you may be a bit obsessed with sex. Also, honey, at the age of 9, you were molested, because you are not legally allowed to decide to have sex at that age. Where are your parents during all of this stuff?

You say you are sexually driven, bi-curious. Sounds to me like you have a problem with sex. Perhaps it's time to seek counselling, because, really, from what you described, this is not natural.

Being bi, being straight, being gay, not a problem, but just "goofing" around with everything that moves, that's a problem.

Good luck.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 29, 2008, 02:44 PM
I don't "goof" arounf with everything that moves, but I get your point.

I was really shy until I got to high school, there I made loads of bestfriends and we talk about sex a lot, not seriously but my best friend has had sex twice and says it isn't anything special and I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm looking forward to children.

My friend was the same age as me when we tried stuff when I was 9, I wasn't a victim I did stuff to her and she did stuff to me, my mam and dad were at home and I was at her house and her parents checked up on us every couple of minutes to see if we were hungry or thirsty, to me what I do is completely normal because my friends do it to, this is the first time someone's told me it isn't normal

Im still virgin, just so you know. (my attempts at sex when I was young were failures and I'm glad)

rockerchick_682
Aug 29, 2008, 03:16 PM
Well sex=children. You don't want children. Are you sure you're ready to commit 18 years of your life at the age of 16? Ha!

Alty
Aug 29, 2008, 04:07 PM
I dont "goof" arounf with everything that moves, but i get your point.

I was really shy until i got to high school, there i made loads of bestfriends and we talk about sex a lot, not seriously but my best friend has had sex twice and says it isnt anything special and im not looking forward to it, but im looking forward to children.

My friend was the same age as me when we tried stuff when i was 9, i wasnt a victim i did stuff to her and she did stuff to me, my mam and dad were at home and i was at her house and her parents checked up on us every couple of minutes to see if we were hungry or thirsty, to me what i do is completely normal because my friends do it to, this is the first time someones told me it isnt normal

Im still virgin, just so you know. (my attempts at sex when i was young were failures and im glad)

I'm having a hard time with the "we were both 9 and did stuff to eachother" comment. Honey, at 9 you are not old enough to consent to anything, so in my eyes, you both molested each other, you cannot consent to a sexual act at this age, why, because you don't have the sense God gave a goat at the age of 9. This may sound harsh, but maybe it will open your eyes a bit.

Just because your friends are doing it, that doesn't make it right. Today's teens seem to think that sexual experimentation with the same sex and the opposite sex is okay. It's not okay, it's not right, and it can be harmful and hurtful.

There are teens out there that already know that they are gay, you don't, you're just having fun, experimenting. Is that okay, is it okay to fool around with these kids that know what they are, who are still in the beginning stages of figuring out what their lives will entail, is it okay for you to use them as an experiment? No, it's not.

If you are gay, or bi, that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that. But until you figure out what it is you want, stop playing around in dangerous territory, for yourself, and others.

It is not normal to be obsessed with sex, and it sounds very much like you are.

You may not believe that you were molested, but looking from the outside in, it sounds like you were.

I'm speaking from experience here. I was molested when I was 5, by my female cousin who was 13 at the time. No, I did not consent, and because of what I went through I became a very promiscuous teenager. I was never ever curious of the same sex, but when it came to guys, sweetie, there wasn't one that wasn't good enough for me. I hated myself, my body, everything, my motto was "better to give it then to have it taken". It wasn't until I was older and found a wonderful man that I realized what I was doing and why.

Seek counselling, because I can see this situation turning into a huge problem unless you get a handle on it.

If you want to talk we're here, there's nothing you can say that will shock me, so be honest, be open, maybe we can help you figure all this out in some way.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 04:46 AM
Well I've wanted a child since I was 14 and my life is as boring as hell so yeah, I'd rather spend 18 years with a child than doing nothing. (that does NOT mean I'd do it!)

And I don't care if I was molested or not, I was 9 it at around 7 years ago, I'm over it and aren't that bothered.
Im not fooling around with anyone who is certain for themselves what they are, I only have two bi-sexual friends and I don't hang around with her, and my other friend is one of my best friends in the whole world.

All I wanted to know was if I was straight, bi or lesbian, but your all talking about 7 years ago and how I'm sexually obsessed, and I don't mind if I am because I actually keep that to myself and only really ever go as far as to talking about sex, my friends and I all have enormous amounts of fun because of the way we are, I'm not about to change the way I act and become self conscious about what I do because people on here say so. If my friends want to stop then I will, it's not like I desperately need to do things, they just make my life fun!

JudyKayTee
Aug 30, 2008, 06:51 AM
Well i've wanted a child since i was 14 and my life is as boring as hell so yeah, i'd rather spend 18 years with a child than doing nothing. (that does NOT mean i'd do it!)

And i dont care if i was molested or not, i was 9 it at around 7 years ago, im over it and arent that bothered.
Im not fooling around with anyone who is certain for themselves what they are, i only have two bi-sexual friends and i dont hang around with her, and my other friend is one of my best friends in the whole world.

All i wanted to know was if i was straight, bi or lesbian, but your all talking about 7 years ago and how im sexually obsessed, and i dont mind if i am because i actually keep that to myself and only really ever go as far as to talking about sex, my friends and i all have enormous amounts of fun because of the way we are, im not about to change the way i act and become self conscious about what i do because people on here say so. If my friends want to stop then i will, it's not like i desperately need to do things, they just make my life fun!



This is a lot of rationalizing but all aside - you don't keep it to yourself. You've posted it on a private message board.

If it were no big deal to you it wouldn't be posted here.

And there's no on-line test (or any other test I'm aware of) that determines if some is straight, gay, bi.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 06:55 AM
Yes but I don't know you people do I? I wanted a non biased opinion, I keep it to myself when I'm speaking to people I know, and its not a big deal, I just wanted to know what I was in other people's eyes, my past is my past and I can't change anything to do with it, and what I think is my opinion only. Everyone is looking down on me because I'm seeing myself differently on a completely different toppic to what I asked!

JudyKayTee
Aug 30, 2008, 06:58 AM
Yes but i dont know you people do i? i wanted a non biased oppinion, i keep it to myself when im speaking to people i know, and its not a big deal, i just wanted to know what i was in other people's eyes, my past is my past and i can't change anything to do with it, and what i think is my oppinion only. Everyone is looking down on me because im seeing myself differently on a completely different toppic to what i asked!



I'm sorry but that isn't what you said - you said you don't "talk" about it... and you do. So on some level it's on your mind. That's all.

I also don't see anybody looking down on you - as you said, no one knows who you are so any judgments are made purely on what you post.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 07:02 AM
Your annoying me. (im not threatening or anything like that, I'm just telling you in case I get snappy or rude, forgive me in advance OK? Please?)

I meant I don't talk about it in person or to people I know and if I do I don't do it very much, and its on my mind because I'm not certain of anything and its getting on my nerves because I like to be prepared for things and know what's happening.

Im just getting agitated because of the thing when I was 9 that I don't care about and everyone is saying I'm sex obsessed (the word sex is annoying me as well) and I don't really think I am, I'm just more open about it than others.

SweetDee
Aug 30, 2008, 07:21 AM
At 16 most kids don't really know who they are. Testing the waters to see if you might be bisexual is normal even into your late 20's! Life is an odd perplexity... we need to take the time to exlore all our little personal facets and folds. As you grow you will probably experiment even more. It's natural. You have an obligation to yourself to try and discover who you are, right? Just know that you are amongst the many teens who are in the process of trying to figure themselves out. It's HARD!

Whatever it is that you discover along the way is what it is. Hetero, bisexual, gay... wtvs! Don't YOU be the one judging yourself. Just accept your fabulous self. No matter what you discover in and around your life... you are FAB!

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 07:40 AM
SweetDee I love you! If I were with you I'd give you a hug! But I'm not so that's quite dissapointing!

Really, to be honest I wanted reassuring if anything, I can't ask my friends or family for it because they'd turn it into a joke or tell me I'm stupid for it

talaniman
Aug 30, 2008, 08:09 AM
I can appreciate your going through that phase, we all do, where we want to know how things work, and just need some information, instead of what our friends think, who know nothing either. That's normal, and your past, when you didn't get the info you needed, has you still curious as to what's going on.

What we all worry about, being the caring adults we are, is where your experimenting can lead, so educating yourself with facts, and not opinions of your peers, will give you a much better insight, into what your going through with your feelings, as you grow and learn, about the best, and safest way to cope with those feelings.

An older adult, or parent, is the best for good info, and the library can offer many good books on the subject you need. Enjoy your time now, and learn the right things, from the right people, and take care of yourself.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 08:14 AM
Im sorry to say this but I didn't understand any of that, I'm quiet dense when it comes to general knowledge and things like that (I thought yorkshire was its own country and a skirting board had something to do with stairs, enough said.) could you repeat it in a simpler form that even a seven year old would be able to undestand?

Alty
Aug 30, 2008, 09:44 AM
Princess, I didn't mean to offend you, I'm just concerned with your approach to all this

Trying to figure out who and what you are is a good thing, but "playing" around with other people in order to find out, that can be dangerous.

No one can tell you whether your are straight, gay or bi, if you don't even know then how can we? We can give you opinions, but those are just guesses as well. You are still so young, you'll figure it out.

In the meantime, be careful, don't do something you'll regret later in life. That's what I was trying to say when I posted, I guess I went about it the wrong way.

We are all adults,and to you we are probably a bunch of old timers who don't know anything, but we were all teens once, and trust me, it wasn't so different then as it is now.

There are some mistakes you don't have to learn first hand, you can learn by listening to people who have already lived through those mistakes.

Like I said, I was never confused about my sexual orientation, I never even had a curiosity towards the same sex. The opposite sex, honey, there wasn't a guy out there that I wouldn't sleep with, so learn from that, because trust me, if I could take it all back I would.

Experimenting is fine, if it's innocent, but sooner or later, if you continue on the road you're on now, it will stop being innocent. Don't end up doing something you'll regret, okay?

talaniman
Aug 30, 2008, 09:53 AM
Go to the library, or and adult for the answers to your questions, as experimenting, will get you in a bunch of trouble.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 01:13 PM
Ah thank you!

I haven't played with anyone though? Me and my friends aren't serious when we do things, like I said we do it for fun, the closest I've come to anything serious was that thing when I was 9, so I feel like your making acusations by saying I'm playing around and practically using people when I never said anything like that (not in my eyes anyway)

Do you think that this all started when I was 9 with that girl and I've kept doing it?
I haven't, honestly! That was the first and last time I've ever done anything that bad before, I was closed up about stuff like that because I was selfconsious until I met my friends who were just as bad as me when I was 14! It took me months to get to where I am now! I don't intend to break any barriers of anysort until I'm absolutely sure!

Alty
Aug 30, 2008, 02:44 PM
I haven't played with anyone though? Me and my friends aren't serious when we do things, like I said we do it for fun,

That's the scary part, the "doing it for fun" part. That's why we've given the advice we gave.

I realize that it's fashionable, for lack of a better term, for teens to experiment with each other, it's a phenomenon that is sweeping over every part of every country. I don't know why, but it seems that kids today think this is fun and harmless, when in fact it can be quite harmful.

Princess, I don't expect you to understand our concerns, there are some things in life that you can't understand until you're older and wiser.

As an adult on this site that answers many teens questions, I realize that most of what I say will fall on deaf ears. I remember being 16, I knew everything, I really did, or so I thought. No one could tell me that I was wrong, and bad things wouldn't happen to me, bad things only happened to other people. It wasn't until I got older that I realized how reckless and stupid I was at 16, and lucky, because nothing bad did happen.

I can talk until I'm blue in the face, until you are willing to listen and look deeply into what I'm saying, there's nothing I do say that will change your outlook. If you want to continue what you are doing, then there's nothing I can do to stop you, I'm not your mother, nor am I a friend, I'm just a faceless person on the internet who happens to realize where the path you've chosen is leading to. You'd be surprised how quickly your well laid plans and intentions can turn on you.

Some things you have to learn the hard way I guess. I've said what I came to say, either it sticks or it doesn't, the rest is up to you.

Good luck, take care and be safe.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 02:54 PM
Hm, should I define what we do? Because I think your picturing something far worse than what it is!

We hug each other from all angles (behind, in front from the side ect) we sometimes hug like you see lovers do in movies, like with your heads on eachothers shoulders and stuff, but that's only if were upset or feeling a bit down.
My best friend spanks us but we always complain because she does it too hard and it hurts (not sexual at all really) we sometimes give eachothers breasts a squeeze but that's always a result of a hilarious conversation about something we've read or seen (I think last time it was because I read a book and a boy randomly grabbed his gilfriends breast and looked into her eyes lovingly before walking away, and me and my friend did it and said we loved each other before laughing very hard) and sometimes if we hug we say "Against the wall!" and puch each other against the wall and pretend, but most of the time we're not even toughing each other and it happens in front of security cameras or where there's people looking because its funny that way.
Sometimes (very rarely) we give each other a kiss on the cheek, but only if it's a dare, or it's a raspberry (Like what you do to baby's stomachs?)

Were you thinking "in the bedroom" type stuff?

Alty
Aug 30, 2008, 03:08 PM
Actually, no, what you're describing is pretty much what I thought you might be doing. To you it's innocent, right now, but it's just the beginning, trust me, sooner or later you and your friends will want to up the ante, and then what?

It sounds like you think it's fun because it's forbidden, the thrill of doing something you know your parents wouldn't like and not getting caught. Like I said, soon these little trysts won't be enough anymore and someone will push the envelope, then it will be "Oh come on, only once, you don't mind the other stuff we do". When that time comes you'll either play along or bow out, and from what you've said you won't bow out.

You think that these are just fun innocent games, but they're much more serious than you know.

Like I said before, I've told you my point of view, maybe I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit I'm not right about everything, but what if I am right about this?

You may think that because it's with your "girlfriends" that it's okay and not sexual, but that's not true, what you are doing has sexual connotations, and can go from playful to hurtful in a hearbeat. Just be careful, think before you act.

My rule of thumb now, until you are 21, don't do anything you wouldn't be willing to do in front of your parents. Unrealistic, maybe, but if I had followed that rule I would have saved myself a world of hurt.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 03:19 PM
Is it all right if I say your wrong?

I think I understand where your going, but its me I wanted to know about, my friends are completely straight, I know what's what and what things aren't to be done, we don't do it everyday, its once in a while when our mood is either extremely low or very high, and its not just my girlfriends, its my guy friends too.

I don't feel any attraction to my friends, and they'd never EVER ask me to do something that I don't want to do, and I them!
This seems more of a trust problem your thinking of rather than a bad hobby one, I trust my friends and myself completely when it comes to this stuff, because if they did anything I'd get mad and hurt them. Its just the way we are, we see the world differently, some see it as a great exciting place full of promise, to us its dull and way too closed up and judgemental on silly little acts.

I've told one of my other friends about this and she said she didn't know the reason we do it, its just what we do, and she said her cousin has a friend who is just like us and she's 16.
So we're not the only ones and it doesn't seem at all strange to me.

Also, what does rule of thumb mean? (I did say I was dense)

Alty
Aug 30, 2008, 03:49 PM
Rule of thumb means a rule or something that is a good idea to follow, it's just a slang way to say it. ;)

Okay, last try, and please read what I'm about to say, really read it. I've told my story on AMHD before, but every time I do it still hurts, so I don't say it unless I think it's necessary.

You say you trust your friends, and that's great, it's nice to have close friends, it's nice to have that trust. I don't give my trust very easily, and believe me, I have my reasons.

When I was 3 1/2 years old we moved from Germany to Canada. All of my fathers relatives already lived here, we were the last to arrive. We didn't know the language, we didn't know anyone other than our relatives.

We got settled, bought a condo, my parents got jobs and everything was great I want to say right now, I had the most wonderful parents in the world, so none of what I'm about to tell you was their fault, they never knew, I never told, I was to scared, to ashamed.

When I was around 4 my parents would ask my cousin to babysit, she was 12 at the time. I adored her, she'd play dolls with me, we'd do crafts, she'd put makeup on me, curl my hair, everything a little girl loves to do. I don't know exactly when it started, but my earliest memory was when I was five. She started to molest me, I won't go in to too many details, because you are a teen and because I still can't get myself to say them outloud, even to strangers I'll never see. It started innocently, a touch there, a hug that lasted a bit too long, her touching me and then pretending it was an accident, but it didn't stop there.

Long story short, the sexual abuse went on for quite a while, my parents didn't understand why I cried every time they said they were going out and that my cousin was coming to babysit. After a while she said she was getting to old to babysit and my parents found someone else. I never stopped crying when they left, and I never told them why.

She was family, and I did trust her. She was only 13, in her mind perhaps she was just experimenting, playing around, nothing harmful. That abuse affected me for the rest of my life, still affects me today. If everyone else was doing what she did would it be okay?

I know that to you it's different, you aren't playing around with younger kids, but ultimately it has the same potential to turn into something bad, something ugly, something that will affect you or someone else in a negative way.

To you this is a game, and that's what scares me, because if it's just a game then there aren't any big stakes, and that's when bad things happen.

Like I said before, it's your life, I can talk until I'm blue in the face, but ultimately it's your discission, I'd just hate to see you make the wrong one.


I don't feel any attraction to my friends, and they'd never EVER ask me to do something that I don't want to do, and I them!

Then why are you asking if you are gay or bi? Also, they haven't ever asked you to do something you don't want to, yet.

Just think about it, that's all I can ask.

I'm out. Good luck.

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 04:03 PM
Im sorry to hear what happened to you.
I hear these things but I'm even more sorry for this, but I cannot accept what happened to you to have the same result to me.

If my friends get too friendly in a way I don't like, I tell them straight away and forcibly remove myself from them, I talk about anything I don't like, I'm an attention seeker (very bad I know) and would announce to the whole world if anything like that happened to me.

You said I was molested when I was 9, believe it or not, I told my other friends about it a few weeks after it happened, and I wasn't conscious that it was bad until they told me so and I never agreed to it again.
I know I'm a teenager and still young and don't know the difference between what's right to do and what isn't, but I have a rough idea and I am smart enough to do something if I don't like it, I'm not impressionable unless I want to be and can't be forced to do things I don't want to.

I once got angry at my grandma when she patted my bottom and front bit (sometime last year I think) she didn't mean anythign by it, she was doing it like a grandmother to a child while I was walkign up the stairs and she was making a joke about something and I snapped at her and stormed upstairs and she never did it again.

Im mature for my age (im told) and I see these things as innocent because I want them to be, so I can go on enjoying my teenage years without a care, and when I'm older I can be serious about it, I won't do anything stupid, you've actually made me think about it a bit more (amazing!) but I'm not going to stop what I do, but I will look out for things a bit more carefully OK?

I asked if I was bi or gay because I had a conversation with a friend on msn and it made me think and I was a little worried, I completely forgot about it the next day after I posted this!

Alty
Aug 30, 2008, 04:09 PM
All I can ask is that you are careful, and know that I'm here if you ever need to talk about anything.

I know that it might be a bit scary to talk to people over the internet that you've never met, but I can honestly say, I wouldn't have a problem with my own kids coming on this site, because I know what kind of people are here, and I know that they'd give good advice to my kids.

As for being bi or gay, that's something only you can figure out, and not something you have to be worried about. If you are then you are, and you'll deal with it when the time comes.

I'm glad I made you think, and I'm glad that you'll be careful, I really am.

Take care, and keep us posted, okay? :)

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 04:13 PM
Its not scary at all!

I love talking to strangers! (a bad trait, right?) even off the internet I don't give people a chance to reject me if I want to be their friend!

That's the kind of person I am, I'm care-free I would say, I cut loose the unimportant things like being selfconsious, judgemental and sometimes caring when it isn't needed.

I read my zodiac thing just now, it says that virgo's don't see physical things (such as sex) as important, its only emotions and state of mind that matters, which is how I think a bit.

Tis bad, istn it? Oh well, I'll grow out of it or something!

Alty
Aug 30, 2008, 04:27 PM
Princess, I'm a virgo too, so that's no excuse. ;)

I know where you're coming from, I can almost feel what you are going through, because I was not very different than you. I didn't mess around with girls, not my thing, perhaps because I was molested by a girl, but boys, yup, and nothing stopped me.

Like I've said, I learned the hard way, and wish I could have a redo, but you only get one shot sweetie, so be careful, some lessons learned are your last.

As for growing out of it, I'm sure you will. My hope for you is that you never have any regrets.

Just hear my advice whenever you think about doing something risky, hopefully I can be the little angel on yor shoulder steering you in the right direction. :)

Princess-IMYM
Aug 30, 2008, 06:20 PM
Nyaha! Is all I say to your virgoness!

I haven't regretted anything I've done before because I've forgotten everything, I didn't remember the thing 7 years ago until a few months back, how weird is that?

And I'd rather not hear anymore voices if I can help it, the last two scared me! (<-- that actually happened!) And I'd also prefere if I didn't see angels on my shoulders as well! :)

Alty
Aug 30, 2008, 06:29 PM
You say that you didn't remember the incident that happened 7 years ago, perhaps because you blocked it out. Maybe it did have more of an effect on you than you want to admit, and the things you are doing now could be a direct result of that.

As for the angels on your shoulder, don't knock it, they can be helpful. ;)

Just be a kid, because believe it or not, that's what you are. Enjoy yourself, but be careful too. Don't be in too big a hurry to grow up, there's plenty of time for all that later.

I met my husband when we were both 19, and that was the first relationship I was in where I actually respected the other person and he respected me. He didn't care about the things I could do with or for him, he just wanted me.

So, take things slow, don't go around doing "stuff" with everyone, because sooner or later it will come back to bite you in the a$$. ;)

Go Virgos! :)

Princess-IMYM
Aug 31, 2008, 02:55 AM
Yay! Virgo's!

I don't think I blocked it, I just had nothing to remind me of it and I didn't care so I forgot, I don't think this is a result of my past, but a result of my pervert friends and all those rude jokes you see on some websites! :D

I won't do stuff with just anyone, I know that much! My dad would quite literally kill me, and I'm more afraid of him than anything else that could happen to me! (except spiders, those are top)

Alty
Aug 31, 2008, 09:39 AM
I love spiders, in fact they are my fav's. You have to really appreciate something that has eight legs but doesn't trip, can make silk come out of it's butt, and drinks blood. Yup, spiders are cool! :)

Have you ever talked to your mom and dad about how you feel, the fact that you're confused about your sexuality? They are the adults in your life, and I'm sure they love you and would do whatever they can to help you.

Being 16 is hard, you aren't really a kid anymore, but you aren't an adult either, you're between.

Remember, we're here if you need to talk, about anything. If you are ever confused, or need a sounding board, we're here. Like I said, I'd have to problems letting my own kids come on this site, because I know the people here are kind, caring people that won't steer you in the wrong direction.

Take care virgo girl, and enjoy your 16th birthday, that's a huge milestone. :)

Princess-IMYM
Aug 31, 2008, 10:50 AM
I will never talk to my parents about it, because I'm not even allowed to say "bloody hell" in front of them!
And my dad scares me so I don't like him :P

I can do this on my own, I'm not concerned anymore, I'll find out when I find out

I hate spiders, and I hate daddy long legs too, they're just flying death machines!

I know what the people on here are like, this isn't my first post, everyone is helpful (or tries to be) :)

goldenlox101
Aug 31, 2008, 02:06 PM
I think every teen goes through this, its just another step in finding out who you want to be.

hiyaparis
Aug 31, 2008, 08:31 PM
Ok, so im 15 (16 in 2 weeks! woo!) and i've always thought that i was completely straight. I read yaoi and things but i've never been attracted to a girl, but i've noticed while talking to a friend who is similar, i have a fascination about breasts!

My group of friends always pretend to be lesbian with each other and we grope whenever we feel like it because we're childish like that, but i like it so now im paranoid.
I can't visualize myself going out with a girl, but i can imagine a one night stand thing going on, I'm attracted to men, i definitely know that.

I was attracted to women at a stage when i was younger (around 9 ish) at that time i had a bi-curious best friend and she "used" me to test herself so we sort of had sex, i dont know if it counts though because neither of us knew what we were doing, we just went with the flow.
And now im confused and a little dreading of what i am. Can someone tell me?:confused:
Honey don't even worry about it. If you'e a lesbian that's what you are. If you're strait that's what you are. If you're bi guess what? THAT.IS.WHAT.YOU.ARE. I was the same way when I was 12. Take it from me that you should just do what feels rite. Eventually you will know for sure but for now just chill out a and don't stress

Alty
Aug 31, 2008, 09:29 PM
honey don't even worry about it. if you'e a lesbian that's what you are. if you're strait that's what you are. If you're bi guess what? THAT.IS.WHAT.YOU.ARE. I was the same way when i was 12. take it from me that you should just do what feels rite. eventually you will know for sure but for now just chill out a nd don't stress

Well, that's dangerous advice.

I do agree that whatever she is, that's what she is and that's who she should be. But, do what feels rite, not good advice to give to a girl just about to turn 16.

Princess-IMYM
Sep 1, 2008, 06:09 AM
How is it bad advice?

Actually, I think I know your point when I think of it, because of that thing with my boyfriend all those years back and I thought that was right...

Maybe I should "do what feels right after thinking it through properly" :)

talaniman
Sep 1, 2008, 07:57 AM
Maybe I should "do what feels right after thinking it through properly" :)
That is a great suggestion.

Princess-IMYM
Sep 1, 2008, 03:03 PM
Yay, I'm brilliant! :D

JennBi
Sep 14, 2008, 10:30 AM
Ok, so im 15 (16 in 2 weeks! woo!) and i've always thought that i was completely straight. I read yaoi and things but i've never been attracted to a girl, but i've noticed while talking to a friend who is similar, i have a fascination about breasts!

My group of friends always pretend to be lesbian with each other and we grope whenever we feel like it because we're childish like that, but i like it so now im paranoid.
I can't visualize myself going out with a girl, but i can imagine a one night stand thing going on, I'm attracted to men, i definitely know that.

I was attracted to women at a stage when i was younger (around 9 ish) at that time i had a bi-curious best friend and she "used" me to test herself so we sort of had sex, i dont know if it counts though because neither of us knew what we were doing, we just went with the flow.
And now im confused and a little dreading of what i am. Can someone tell me?:confused:
OK look I've been through the same thing your going through right now. OK I'm going to be 16 soon as well but I am certain that I'm a bisexual female. See I believe that you just have to experiment a little to figure out if that is what you want. You see its like buying a new pair of shoes you have to try them on to see if their the ones you want, right? Ya see it all boils down to what U want, (do you want to be with a guy? Do you want to be with a girl? Or do you want to be with both?) So in the end you will know what you want you just have to give it time.

~JeNn(im here for u)

Princess-IMYM
Sep 17, 2008, 08:50 AM
I think I have a preferral for guys actually, I can see when a girl is drop dead gorgeous or if she is very fit, but I can only imagine myself looking good with a guy.

Princess-IMYM
Sep 23, 2008, 12:41 PM
Um... Yesterday my best friend told me that she loved me more than a friend should, but she didn't fancy me, and she was embarrassed about it and said she'd probably get jealous if I went out with someone, but she's going out with my cousin.
I still love her as much as I did before she told me (in the friend way, I don't have romantic feelings for her) but I'm not entirely sure I understand what she meant.
She loves me more than a friend but not in a homosexual way, what does that mean?

Alty
Sep 23, 2008, 12:44 PM
Maybe she meant that she loves you like a sister. :)

Alty
Sep 23, 2008, 12:46 PM
ok look ive been through the same thing ur goin through right now. ok im going to be 16 soon as well but I am certain that im a bisexual female. See I believe that u just have to experiment a little to figure out if that is wat u want. U see its like buying a new pair of shoes u have to try them on to see if their the ones u want, right? Ya see it all boils down to wat U want, (do u wanna be with a guy? do u wanna be with a girl? or do u wanna be with both?) So in the end u will know wat u want u just have to give it time.

~JeNn(im here for u)


When I go shoe shopping I don't try on a pair unless I really like them, so you see, I don't have to try on every pair in the store. Do you understand where I'm going with this?

Experimenting with sex is never a good idea.

Time will tell, not experimentation needed. You are what you are and will be what you are meant to be, just give it time.

Princess-IMYM
Sep 23, 2008, 12:55 PM
She said she was embarrassed about it though, if she loved me like a sister she wouldn't start crying would she?
I thought it would be like how I love this boy but don't want to be in a relationship with him, its hard to explain the feeling but its like I want to marry him and have a family and live together, but I don't want to date him or anything.

And I would never experiment with sex, that's just stupid.
I have grown a brain over the years since I was 9 and impressionable.

Alty
Sep 23, 2008, 01:09 PM
The only thing I can tell you is to ask her what she meant. Unfortunately no one else will be able to tell you, only her.

Ask her, talk to her, find out why she said what she did and what she meant. :)

Princess-IMYM
Sep 23, 2008, 01:14 PM
I don't want to push her and she likes my cousin, I don't mind what she thinks about me because she's my bestie and I love everything that comes with her, So it doesn't really matter until she wants to talk about it again, I was just hoping for a little insight :)

Alty
Sep 23, 2008, 01:15 PM
Sorry, I wish I had some insight, but it's hard to figure out what's on someone else's mind, unless they tell you.

Good luck. :)

Princess-IMYM
Sep 23, 2008, 01:16 PM
It's all right, I accept her anyway :)

Alty
Sep 23, 2008, 01:18 PM
That's what friends are for, acceptance, love, no matter what. :)

You're on the right track. :)

Princess-IMYM
Sep 23, 2008, 01:20 PM
Well, she is my wife.
Last year we got married out side of the co-op in November, to prove how close we were and still are :D
She's like family anyway