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poopsie1957
Aug 5, 2008, 11:37 PM
My son got into a fight with my husband and was convicted of Domestic Violence. He had to go to jail for four months. Now he is having a hard time finding a job even though the conviction was a misdomeanor, since it was his first conviction.

He is also Bipolar, we just found out, because he tried to cut his wrist. So things are pretty ruff right now.

He has moved to the State of Washington and so far hasn't found any employment.

Does it ever get any better for someone who is trying to start again?

Clough
Aug 5, 2008, 11:40 PM
How old is your son, please?

Clough
Aug 5, 2008, 11:47 PM
Okay. I can see that you are looking around on the site for other things. I wanted to send you a private message to let you know that I have responded to your question. However, you don't have the private messaging function turned on in your profile, so I do hope that you know that I have responded.

poopsie1957
Aug 5, 2008, 11:50 PM
My son is now 28 years old. We just found out three weeks ago, that he is bipolar, although we always thought he was.

Clough
Aug 5, 2008, 11:52 PM
Thank you for returning! What kind of jobs has he held in the past?

poopsie1957
Aug 5, 2008, 11:55 PM
Golf Course Work and Landscaping
Cook (he is a really good cook) for an Italian Restaurant
Lighting Company
Alaska Fishing Processing Boat
Some Construction Work

He prefers to cook, but is looking for anything right now.

Clough
Aug 5, 2008, 11:58 PM
What might be some of the reasons that he left any of those jobs? Depending on the reasons, that could also be one of the reasons he might be having trouble finding employment.

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:01 AM
Golf Course, his dad works there and is the boss. He didn't like the work.
Lighting Company, there wasn't any work and he got paid very little.
Fishing Boat, seasonal work
Italian Restaurant, they wanted him to come back but he wanted to leave and go back to Seattle.

He's a really good worker and all his bosses have liked him.

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:03 AM
Since he was convicted of "Domestic Violence" for fighting with his Stepdad, it just puts more strain between them that he can't find a job now. Also, he was turned down in Tennessee when he went to rent an apartment. Seems really unfair that people are punished for the rest of their lives for one stupid act.

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:03 AM
I'm assuming that he graduated from high school. But, has he had any other education or training besides that which he might have received in high school? Also, would it be possible for some of the former employers to write some letters of recommendation for him?

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:06 AM
He could get the letters of recommendation easily. The only one I'm not sure of is the fishing boat. He jumped into the water and swam to shore (quit without notice). His father was the Superintendent at the golf course. His last boss didn't want him to quit and wished him well.

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:06 AM
Since he was convicted of "Domestic Violence" for fighting with his Stepdad, it just puts more strain between them that he can't find a job now. Also, he was turned down in Tennessee when he went to rent an apartment. Seems really unfair that people are punished for the rest of their lives for one stupid act.

Yes. It is a shame that people can too often be remembered for only the worst thing that they ever did and not for the good they did or might be able to do in the future.

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:07 AM
I would work on getting those recommendation letters then. How is he being supported now?

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:07 AM
He only graduated from high school. He was in the gifted children's program all the way through until the 10th grade. He failed the 9th, but he was a year ahead, so they put him in the 10th grade anyway. Then he failed the 12th and repeated it and still graduated at 18 years old.

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:09 AM
He is living with two friends. One works for a construction company and his boss is letting them both live in the upstairs of his home.

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:10 AM
I do apologize for all of the questions, but a period of discovery is often necessary here to truly know what a situation is in order for us to be able to help you the best!

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:11 AM
Graduated from High School. Only has had on the job training.

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:11 AM
What is/are the specific city or cities where he is trying to find employment, please? Also, does he have access to being on the Internet?

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:13 AM
Seattle Washington and he does have the internet.

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:15 AM
Okay, that's good! Please give me a few minutes as I'm going to do some searching for you.

Thanks!

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:32 AM
Below, are some links to searches that should be an aid to both you and he. He could also use a local temp agency to help him to find employment. Might not get exactly the job that he would want, but some good reputation does need to be built. It would be important that he be "straight up" about his conviction to any potential employer in an interview as to what he did, how sorry he is and what he has learned in positive ways because of the help that he has gotten since committing the offense.

Also, if it asks on any job applications about former convictions of any kind, then he needs to be completely honest on them. I have also never seen it on a job application where the applicant couldn't attach an additional document concerning any crime(s) that he or she has committed and also explaining the same way as I have already mentioned in my first paragraph above when having an interview.

Cook Wanted Seattle, Washington - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Cook+Wanted+Seattle%2C+Washington)

Seattle, Washington Cooking Jobs - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Seattle%2C+Washington+Cooking+Jobs)

Help Wanted Seattle, Washington - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Help+Wanted+Seattle%2C+Washington)

Seattle, Washington Online Classifieds, Jobs, Cooking - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Seattle%2C+Washington+Online+Classifieds%2C+Jobs %2C+Cooking&btnG=Search)

Seattle, Washington Newspapers - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Seattle%2C+Washington+Newspapers&btnG=Search)

Seattle, Washington Newspapers Classifieds - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Seattle%2C+Washington+Newspapers+Classifieds)

Seattle, Washington Jobs - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Seattle%2C+Washington+Jobs)

Seattle, Washington Employment - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Seattle%2C+Washington+Employment)

Seattle, Washington Job Service - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Seattle%2C+Washington+Job+Service)

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:35 AM
Just found a bunch of jobs concerning cooks, etc. on the following link.

seattle-tacoma food/beverage/hospitality jobs classifieds - craigslist (http://seattle.craigslist.org/fbh/)

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:38 AM
I hope you don't mind, but I am going to sleep. Got to get up in three hours. I will check my email first thing in the morning and thanks for all your help.

poopsie1957
Aug 6, 2008, 12:40 AM
Thanks for the post! I will call him first thing tomorrow and give him the info.

Thanks again. I like talking to someone who understands.

:)

Clough
Aug 6, 2008, 12:45 AM
You're welcome and thank you, too! This has been a most pleasant discussion about not so pleasant a situation.

Just a few other things that I would like to mention. If by chance he doesn't have a resume or cover letter formatted, I would suggest getting those kinds of documents ready in case he might need them. It's also important, that whenever he goes to even pick up an application and when going for an interview, that he looks his best. The first impressions one makes on potential employers are very important!

I wish you a good sleep! :)

jrebel7
Aug 7, 2008, 01:27 AM
Hi there Poopsie1957! WOW, Clough has really gotten some great information for you to share with your son. I am so glad you found this site. There are so many warm and caring people here.

I have two friends who have sons who have been diagnosed as having a bi-polar disorder. Thankfully, there is quite a bit of information out there on the net regarding this disorder. The more you and your son can learn about the disorder the better . I am sure you are striving to learn as much about the disorder as possible. Is he under a doctors care as there are medications that help level this out so that the individual is not so impacted by the disorder? (I hope I am not repeating any questions asked earlier. It is late and I might have missed them. I apologize if I did.)

My heart goes out to you and to your son. I am so proud of you for seeking information to help him get a much needed boost at this time. Your son has something going for him that many people in his situation do not, a mother who loves and supports him.

In answer to your last question asked on your original post - A resounding YES! :) My belief is that "Every End Is A New Beginning". That is not "pie in the sky by and by" belief! I believe in new beginnings. The diagnosis has been made, that is progress. He is looking for work, that is progress even though he has not yet found that job, it will come. There are so many people whose goal in life is to help those who have had difficulties in their lives. I will do some checking tomorrow and see what I can find out as far as some organizations that might help him with job placement which would at least get him started in the area he is living to begin his life fresh.

When we make mistakes, we all tend to put ourselves down and are harder on ourselves than others think about being. Your son has paid the debt by doing his time. He can hold his head up, knowing a negative thing happened, he paid for it with his time, that part is over and if he can project this positive attitude when he approaches people in interviews, it will go a long way in helping him obtain the best job possible. Best to you both!

jrebel7
Aug 7, 2008, 07:13 PM
Hi there, as promised, I am researching a bit for you regarding new beginnings and help with jobs. The following link is just the beginning. I didn't read it in it's entirety but if you type in "2nd chance act" in Google Search it gives several links with even more details.

President Bush Signs H.R. 1593, the Second Chance Act of 2007 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/04/20080409-2.html)

This second link addresses resources in the area of the state of Washington.

I looked up "Charles Colson" on Google to find links. He began a "Prison Fellowship" ministry which minsters to the physical, spiritual and emotional needs of prisoners, their families and reentry after release. It is one ministry that I do send an offering to as I can because I know it reaches those who it is striving to reach. I have read his book "Born Again" several years back. He does have an amazing ministry to prisoners and their families. He served time in prison.

Also, I am wondering if there was any mention when your son was released from prison of a program where, if there was no violence, after being released for six months, a prisoner's record can be expunged? I know you stated "Domestic Violence" however, because it was a misdemeanor rather than a felony, I am wondering if this might apply to your son which would help him as he job searches and give him a little more confidence since he wouldn't feel he was always facing answering questions about the misdemeanor. I am working on trying to find out more about that and where you can obtain information regarding this. I will get back with you as soon as I find out anything on this.

http://www.restorativejusticecommunity.org/ResourceDirectory/dirDisplay_MapDir.asp?OrigScript=&activity=&statef=WA&txt_map_county_name=&stylesheet=0&DoAction=ShowList&ref=939&MF=fmap_000099.gif&MB=bmap_CECFFF.gif&TMF=&TMB=

These may not address issues of the type of charges your son served time for but if you find that these two links are not helpful to you, if you will let me know, I will be happy to try to find something else.

Clough
Aug 9, 2008, 11:22 PM
Excellent posts by jrebel7 above addressing the other issues as well as possibilities! :)

jrebel7
Aug 9, 2008, 11:29 PM
Thank you kind Sir! I hope the links might get Poopsie in touch with some one that can direct her to a specific office for help. I was unaware of the Second Chance Act. I know I heard about it when the President signed it but had forgotten. Poopsie hasn't been back on the site lately??

jrebel7
Aug 9, 2008, 11:37 PM
The following thread is in regards to the Expungement Law. There is a short questionnaire to fill out, a "yes" or "no" selection. It mentions California so I am not sure if it is only available to those who live in California but might be worth looking at.

California Criminal Convictions Expunged. We can expunge your criminal record anywhere in California (http://www.convictionfree.com/newexp2/index.html?_kk=expunge&_kt=47d9018a-d23f-4e5d-90a3-67640e015b96&gclid=COez_9bTgpUCFQOaFQodZCG4rA)

I read the FAQ section and it reads as if you would need to live in California but perhaps if you submit the test and an e-mail address, you could find out more details. Best to you and your family.