You guys just got screwed!

Check the housing bill video on the right on Ron Paul's site: Congressman Ron Paul (http://www.house.gov/paul/index.shtml)

Unlimited printed money to bail out Freddie and Fannie, Raise the National debt by $800,000,000,000. Finger printing of all MORTGAGE brokers, and now ALL credit card purchases reported to the IRS! All in one VOTE... IT PASSED!

The wheels of Democrat/fascism just keep a rolling.

Yeah that is why my $40.00 EU money and my $5.00 Canadian money has worth more than my the American money that I have. Our $$$'s have been worth less ever since this began and they have been printing way more money than they are suppose to.

Why the hell did you guys not support Ron Paul? He seems to be the voice of reason.

Because everybody says that a third party will never get enough votes because the majority of the people will always vote Dem or Rep
So it would end up something like this

(Example)Way it is not going third party
54% of all votes
40% of all votes
R Paul 06%

But if everybody felt that a third party REALLY had any chance it would be more like
43% of all votes
31% of all votes
R Paul 26% of all votes

and so people are more afraid THEIR party would be the one that might lose the more votes to the third party giving their party less of a chance to win.

Americans tend to be creatures of habits to a point that is not good!

But he was running as a republican not a third party.

People still see him as the third party and he will not shake that
Because American's are creatures of habit that go with 1st impression and
It is like the saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
McCain is the main Rep candidate and nobody believes there is a chance that R Paul would
Ever really get a fair chance.

Geez, you're losing your privacy and your dollar's power... and no one seems to care.

Like dogs, they'd rather keep licking up their own vomit. Dumb sheep that are following the corporate magnets. Mushrooms in the dark that are fed BS... and they like it. It's the American way. I did support Ron Paul until he didn't receive the nomination. I'm one of the very few on this site that's registered as an Independent.

Mushrooms in the dark that are fed BS...and they like it. It's the American way. I did support Ron Paul until he didn't receive the nomination.

Exactly what I'm talkin' about!
I would vote for R Paul or anybody else but I don't even feel like it is even worth voting!

Obama is in no matter how much he gets things wrong.
I will be totally surprised if he isn't the next Pres

We need to encouarge our Senators to join in filibustering this bill .

This is a bill to protect the banks from the effects of Sen. Shumer opening his big fat mouth and causing a run on the banks.

Jamie Gorelick screws up anything she is involved in.
Franklin Delano Raines, Gorelick, and a slew of other Clintonitoids made a fortune looting Fannie and Freddie, and now the taxpayers are going to bail them out so a new bunch of DNC cronies can earn their fortunes.

[based on George's correction relevant section deleted ]

In the 1980s 250 S&L's went bust without bailouts and we survived.

Say what? "The savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s (commonly referred to as the S&L crisis) was the failure of 747 savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the United States. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around USD$160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. government -- that is, the U.S. taxpayer, either directly or through charges on their savings and loan accounts-- [1], which contributed to the large budget deficits of the early 1990s. The resulting taxpayer bailout ended up being even larger than it would have been because moral hazard and adverse-selection incentives compounded the system’s losses. [2]"
Savings and loan crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_Loan_crisis)
The Democrats were running the Congress at this time; yes, there is a group of liberal Republicans as well, always drinking from the public trough. The costs associated with the bailout caused deficits for Bush I, which was ammo used by Clinton and Perot to demoralize rank and file voters, and, along with breaking the 'no tax increase' pledge, caused the loss of the White House in 1992 from Bush to Clinton.

Want to see some ammo that Ron Paul (and right-thinking Americans) can use? See: Savings and Loan Bailouts (http://economics.about.com/od/governmenttheeconomy/a/savings_loan.htm)

Exactly what I'm talkin' about!
I would vote for R Paul or anybody else but I don't even feel like it is even worth voting!

Obama is in no matter how much he gets things wrong.
I will be totally surprised if he isn't the next Pres
Go back and review election returns and you will see that Clinton never received 50% of the popular vote. The last two elections were equally close. The point is that the U.S. electorate is very evenly split. This is why I posted Hillary would not win the general election, and Obama's chances are even smaller, to the extent that his outlook and philosophy are made known. He, like Jimmy Carter, is a stealth candidate. Even if he is successful this year, he is destined to one term. The buck must stop, somewhere.

Speaking of the Dollar not being worth SH*T this might not mean anything to anyone on this site but The NBA just lost a young star named Josh Childress he didn't die and he didn't retire. He was a restricted free agent who could try to get a better deal from another NBA team but the team he is on now could match it and he would have to stay with them.

Well A team did make him an offer and he signed it and the team he was originally with couldn't do anything to stop him and the reason is The team is in GREECE. They asked Josh why did he sign with a team in Greece and he said simply the Euro is worth more then the dollar.

This is unheard of. Sure some Americans play over in Europe but that's only cause they couldn't get in the NBA. But now a star an American Star left the NBA for Europe. To me that is scary.

The entire NBA can go to Europe for all I care. Would never miss it.

George Regardless if you like watching the NBA or not it speaks volumes of how Sh*tty the dollar really is. Besides George I really didn't think someone with a drawing of Hitler under his name likes to watch the NBA.

He can join that Serb Miladin Kovacevic

Those of you telling us how stupid we are for getting the short end of the bail outs seem to be forgetting that the Democratic led Congress now has a 9% approval rating. That's a lot worse than President Bush's. I live in Texas, and we have 2 conservative senators, and my district has a young, smart conservative representative. If the Northeast part of the country would wise up, we would be a lot better off.

Those of you telling us how stupid we are for getting the short end of the bail outs seem to be forgetting that the Democratic led Congress now has a 9% approval rating. That's a lot worse than President Bush's. I live in Texas, and we have 2 conservative senators, and my district has a young, smart conservative representative. If the Northeast part of the country would wise up, we would be a lot better off.
The Northeast part of the party needs to go to Greece and they can take George W. with them. He's a decent guy, but I'm ready for someone with principles.

If the Northeast part of the country would wise up, we would be a lot better off.

Really I'm trying but I fear our region is hopeless. For some reason the people here not onlty like high taxes ;but beg for more.

Texans pay property tax out the nose. It's not just in the NE part of the country. Fortunately here in Nevada our property taxes are not as bad, due to tourism revenue.

Well, my property taxes aren't terrible here. I live in an unincorporated area. We pay 8.25% sales tax on non edible goods. (6.25% in the county)
As the original post about Ron Paul. I voted for him in his unsuccessful bid for the Senate. I think the thing that ruined his candidacy were his statements on foreign policy.
Voters just couldn't feel that he would be a competent cinc. I know I really like his views on the economy and strict adherence to the Constitution.
Is the Constitution party still alive? If the grassroots would begin to build the Constitution Party at local and state levels, there might come a time when it could be a real force at the federal level.

Consider yourself fortunate as opposed to the majority of Texans. I've heard from a few clients in similar situations. I have a couple of questions: where you live who has the jurisdiction or responsibility for health emergencies or police response?. And how much do you save on property taxes by living in an unincorporated area? BTW my mother's retired and is moving back from the Austin area, the State of Texas Capital, once again to Las Vegas in September. I like the Westlake (http://www.westlake-tx.org/en/) area just outside of Austin, but it's too expensive.

The Democrats were running the Congress at this time; yes, there is a group of liberal Republicans as well, always drinking from the public trough. Hello George:

It's interesting that you bring up the S&L disaster... The BIGGEST crook of all was one Charles Keating. He's an Arizona fellow who swindled millions upon millions when his S&L went bust. He did a long time in the federal slam, too...

But, one of his major DEFENDERS at that time was one JOHN McCAIN. He was one of what became known as the Keating Five.. I wonder how much he contributed to McCain's campaigns over the years...

It IS relative to THIS campaign. Thanks George.

excon

Exactly what I'm talkin' about!
I would vote for R Paul or anybody else but I don't even feel like it is even worth voting!

Obama is in no matter how much he gets things wrong.
I will be totally surprised if he isn't the next Pres

You say "Obama is in no matter how much he gets things wrong" You are wrong in your thinking, no one is in until all of the votes are counted, But above you say" I don't even feel like it is even worth voting"

Well you are the one that might make the difference in who is our next president, so go use the only real right that you have and that is the right to vote.

Hello George:

It's interesting that you bring up the S&L disaster.... The BIGGEST crook of all was one Charles Keating. He's an Arizona fellow who swindled millions upon millions when his S&L went bust. He did a long time in the federal slam, too...

But, one of his major DEFENDERS at that time was one JOHN McCAIN. He was one of what became known as the Keating Five.. I wonder how much he contributed to McCain's campaigns over the years.....

It IS relative to THIS campaign. Thanks George.

excon
That's all old news, as you know; now we are into change.

Consider yourself fortunate as opposed to the majority of Texans. I've heard from a few clients in similar situations. I have a couple of questions: where you live who has the jurisdiction or responsibilty for health emergencies or police response?...And how much do you save on property taxes by living in an unincorporated area? BTW my mother's retired and is moving back from the Austin area, the State of Texas Capital, once again to Las Vegas in September. I like the Westlake (http://www.westlake-tx.org/en/) area just outside of Austin, but it's too expensive.

Yeah, Westlake IS nice. I lived in and near Austin until I married. As to your 2 questions: The county is responsible, we have a volunteer fire dept. Sheriff, local constable, and ambulances run to either Athens or Tyler. Of course, every wide spot in the road has its own police force, even if it's one car running a speed trap.

Not sure how much exactly I save on property taxes, but I know it is substantially lower than in, say, Dallas. Plus, I don't have to fight that traffic, a REAL plus.

Thanks. I'm trying to get an idea if I ever choose to buy property down there. I've heard the Austin traffic is no fun either, even with all newer overpasses. When I would traveled through Houston I hated it. It reminded me of Los Angeles. In LA if you live ten miles out, you have to get up two to three hours early to get to work by eight. Vegas is bad during peak hours.

May I suggest E.Tex, or the Ozarks. Neither is overcrowded and some areas are really beautiful. Check your mailbox, I tried to send this to you there, but it is full.

OK. See if it works this time. I cleaned out my private message inbox. Thanks.

But he was running as a republican not a third party.


He wouldn't pay the media what they wanted to broadcast his candidacy so few people even know who he is. He was a Republican turned Libertarian and came back to his Republican roots this year with the intent to take the party back to it's original purpose. I think he gave up too soon. He had a large support base on the internet, but without media exposure, there is no hope.

He would have been a wonderful President.

He would have been a wonderful President.I so agree with you.

For some reason the people here not onlty like high taxes ;but beg for more.
Apparently, they want more government services and are willing to tax themselves to pay for those services. If you disagree with them, you could always move to New Hampshire or Alaska (http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/taxesbystate2005/index.html).


As the the original post about Ron Paul. I voted for him in his unsuccessful bid for the Senate. I think the thing that ruined his candidacy were his statements on foreign policy.I'd say it was a tossup between his foreign policy ideas and his gold standard fetish, either of which would disqualify him, IMO.

Nah I'll stick around and do my best to help reform their ways... at least until I am ready to retire . Then I will not be able to afford their lust for gvt. Services.