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xavier2007
Jul 14, 2008, 06:17 PM
Most fruits and vegetables you get from the supermarket are the product of what
Fr_Chuck
Jul 14, 2008, 06:23 PM
?? Large mega farms
Capuchin
Jul 15, 2008, 01:36 AM
Artificial selection (that goes for meat, too)
jem02081
Jul 16, 2008, 08:38 PM
Photosynthesis
ms williams
Jul 16, 2008, 10:17 PM
Shop at my store- they are all products of small local organic farms. Its good to know who grows your food and where it comes from. Those are important ties we have all almost lost.
Millydogz
Jul 25, 2008, 12:42 AM
Most products from the supermarket that are fruits and vegetables are transgenic, meaning that they have had other genes genetically engineered into them to make them more disease resistant, ripen faster, and are more resistant to pests. For example, most of the tomatoes that you buy (unless they are organic) would have a gene from salmon (the fish) which makes them redder, and takes them longer to rot.
ms williams
Jul 28, 2008, 05:38 PM
This is true. Unless they are labeled "organic" or GMO free they are all genetically modified food (franken foods). GMO food can not be properly digested by the body and end up being carciagenic and stored in your fat cells. There's a lot more to it than that but that is the gist. GMOs create more problems than there solve and are a huge danger to people and the environment.
Capuchin
Jul 29, 2008, 01:47 AM
this is true. unless they are labeled "organic" or GMO free they are all genetically modified food (franken foods). GMO food can not be properly digested by the body and end up being carciagenic and stored in your fat cells. theres alot more to it than that but that is the gist. GMOs create more problems than there solve and are a huge danger to people and the environment.
Source please.
asking
Jul 30, 2008, 07:04 PM
GMOs present some problems, but each genetically modified organism introduces a different gene or set of genes into a plant or animal, so it's unlikely that you would find the same problem (such as cancer or digestibility) in all of them. More likely some would be harmless or good, others bad in different ways. Some problems could include genes for antibiotic resistance introduced as markers (not sure if they still even do that) or for genes jumping from the GMO to wild plants or animals. For many people, objections to GMOs are more economic than biological. Companies like Monsanto restrict farmers from using their own seed to replant, insisting they purchase seed each year from the GMO manufacturer, instead of using the seeds produced by the plants. I know this has lead to conflicts with farmers.
Would like to see a reference for the tomato with the salmon gene too. Someone tried to introduce an arctic flounder gene into a tomato so it could be frozen and not lose its texture, but it didn't work. And of course the CDC recently announced that tomatoes may have caused an outbreak of salmonella (bacteria), but that is unrelated to GMOs and unrelated to salmon (fish), and also, the last I heard, unconfirmed. (And I don't work for the tomato industry. :))
ms williams
Jul 30, 2008, 11:17 PM
Mansanto is a whole issue in itself. It is not just that they are trying to patten seeds (which is ridiculous) but the seeds that they market bare products that can not produce fertile seeds. This is a huge issue because gmo pollen contaminates other farms such as organic farms making their crops unable to be sold by organic standards. Also once these plants that are not able to reduce cross pollinate they alter the dna of more plants to become unfertile. You risk losing the ability to have natural occurring plants, plants that bare fertile seed and you become dependent on a company "monsanto" to provide you with your food. A genetical modified seed with toxic pesticides built right in and altered in many other ways. And the bees... monarch butterflys and many others are dying off due to heavily gmo farmed crops such as corn.if any of you are in CA may I suggest checking out the ECO farm conference that happens yearly in January. You will hear and learn amazing things. I really could go on forever about GMOs, organics and sustainability. Its what I do .
As far as listing my source as requested above, I have a great book back at my office on gmos. I will get the title and author for you Friday when I return to work.
ms williams
Jul 31, 2008, 11:49 PM
Source please.
You asked, you got it. "Genetic Roulette the DOCUMENTED HEALTH RISK of GENETICALLY ENGINEERED FOODS". By Jeffrey Smith
This is the best source. A kind of all in one. I actually had a chance to see him speak about this book. I hope you find it helpful and insightful.