It's over.

So you do not want an affair for love
You want a sugar daddy that you feel should pay?

My take on this is he wants the first scenario and
You feel the other
You press the issue and he could just go looking for a professional hooker.

So you do not want an affair for love
you want a sugar daddy that you feel should pay?

My take on this is he wants the first scenario and
you feel the other
you press the issue and he could just go looking for a professional hooker.



I'm not sure where the distinction between having an affair and asking for money/being a hooker is - I think maybe if "financial issues" cause a person to have an affair and ask to be paid for the pleasure of your company you're walking toward that line.

Don't the majority of married men having affairs claim the sex is bad at home - or non existent - ?

Where ever the line of distinction is
He is the owner of the wallet in his pocket.
No obligation to giving her a dime.

The commitment, the responsibility falls on your husband. That is who you said vows to. Not this other person. He has no financial responsibilities to you. To expect money for services rendered, well, you stop being a lover and start being a prostitute.

If you need money that badly, get a second job. You are wrecking your entire life because of a dollar. One day you will look back and realize that it was not worth it.

If I were a single woman, perhaps the answers would be different. Married men are usually expected to "pay to play"... nothing is free. I'm not a hooker, but at the end of the day, I want something to show for the intimacy I provide. If I am still in the same situation financially afterwards, is it really worth my time ? Why should he be the only one benefiting from the affair ? Let's keep in mind why I even decided to do this. I like the nice places he takes me and the attention he gives to me, but I want more. He's getting what he wants... why can't I ?

Yeah if you are in it for the money and he keeps his money in his pocket then it is not worth it.
If you don't get the satisfaction from the intimacy and he don't pay then you are with the wrong business/affair.

If I were a single woman, perhaps the answers would be different. Married men are usually expected to "pay to play"...nothing is free. I'm not a hooker, but at the end of the day, I want something to show for the intimacy I provide. If I am still in the same situation financially afterwards, is it really worth my time ? Why should he be the only one benefiting from the affair ? Let's keep in mind why I even decided to do this. I like the nice places he takes me and the attention he gives to me, but I want more. He's getting what he wants...why can't I ?



Well, starting with sex for money is illegal and working backwards - only you know if it's worth your time to have sex with this guy without being paid for it.

I also think cheaters cheat so I trust you are getting tested regularly for sexually transmitted diseases and he is, also - people are dying out there. I would also be prepared for the wife - he may not be as dumb as rocks - to catch on, catch him, catch you and name you in Court. On the other hand, she may know and be very happy someone else is servicing him.

So tell him you want to get paid; that he is getting sex and you think you should get something. It's as simple as that. At the moment for purposes of negotiation - and I'm in and out of Court, do some pretrial interviews - oral woman to man is $20; intercourse is in the area of $40; anal is closer to $50. You don't have a pimp so you have more room to negotiate.

Now if you're going to work off the streets, have the looks, education, clothes and bearing to be high class call girl and out of the hooker/street walker category the prices are much, much higher. So ask him what sex with you is worth on the open market.

And, presto, your problem is solved -

Get your life together and stop breaking hearts. Everybody will eventually find out and you will be alone. You messed up and for what? Temptation? A few fun scandalous nights with a married man. Married men don't usually leave their wives. So u messed up.put an end to it before he puts an end to you.

[QUOTE=Comments on this post: N0help4u agrees: one problem being if he doesn't pay up she can't sue :-[/QUOTE]


Likewise if he agrees, pays up front and isn't satisfied, he would have an action against her. Food for thought!

I guarantee if word got out the Courtroom would be packed! And I'd be in the front row.

I wonder if this would be retroactive? I wonder how much my husband owes me?

If I were a single woman, perhaps the answers would be different. Married men are usually expected to "pay to play"...nothing is free. I'm not a hooker, but at the end of the day, I want something to show for the intimacy I provide. If I am still in the same situation financially afterwards, is it really worth my time ? Why should he be the only one benefiting from the affair ? Let's keep in mind why I even decided to do this. I like the nice places he takes me and the attention he gives to me, but I want more. He's getting what he wants...why can't I ?


If you were single - sure the answers would be different. They might not be as pleasant.

You are married, he's married and you both have innocent spouses at home. Thinking their life is wonderful. Have you given any thought at all of what you are doing to your husband? Are you ready to lose him at any moment? Is it worth it?

Selfish is the word that keeps coming to mind.

Sexually, he expects certain things from me that his wife should be doing. I think this is a fair argument. I need advice.

If your going to be a ho, you should get paid. Charge by the hour, not the mile though. Don't forget your husband gets half, that's fair.

I think he should charge for being her gigolo

After all that's fair.

I have trouble even believing this post is legit and not a troll. Nevertheless, Carmen Jones, on the outside chance that you really are as crass as you seem, I offer this bit of advice: If you want to get paid for providing sex, you have to learn the business. Freelance amateurs seldom last long enough to make a living at it.

Hello Carman:

I think selling sex for money is just fine. I think calling it something else is lying. I'd rather be an honest hooker than any kind of liar.

excon

Oh My GOD!!

Honey, I'm really sorry to tell you this, but have you ever heard the old saying "why buy the cow when you get the milk for free"? Well, you're the cow. Sex is the milk, and he's been sucking at the teats long enough that if you try to start charging he may just go back out to pasture.

This is a farce. I can not believe what I am reading. Your so full of sh--. I can smell it from my computer. You have a loving husband and your excuse for having an affair is because you want financial support that your not getting. Even if you were single the answers would be no different. Your demanding money for services you're a hooker. Plain and simple.

Do yourself and your husband a favour if this is actually a legit question. Get a divorce now. End the marriage and go on your marry way.

Cut ties with hubby, as a hooker you can make much more money without him holding you down.

Just when I thought I'd heard it all, along comes a troll that spins this yarn. Jeesh, get a life! :(

Yes... but how is the SEX!!

(sorry, I got that stuck in my head from a previous thread and now I want to ask it everywhere)

The sex is good, the cash is better! :):)

Or maybe the sex wasn't worth the pay off!?

Obviously it isn't, she's not getting paid for her services, time to find another John. ;)

10062

It's over.

Don't like what you heard, sometimes the truth hurts. It's time to get your life in order, stop screwing around, stop hooking, work on yourself, and your marriage, be a better person. We all make mistakes, but it isn't worth it if you don't learn something. It's time to learn.

You provided the info, we based our answers on that. Time to look in the mirror and realize that what you are doing is wrong, on many different levels.

Good luck.

or maybe the sex wasn't worth the pay off!???



Or maybe when presented with the chart listing the various prices he decided he could do better elsewhere. Gee, imagine being in the throes of an affair, suggesting that he start paying and having him walk away - that could damage a person's ego.

I've looked into enough of these relationships to know that in a certain percent of them if HE broke it off she will now be looking at ways to get even, get revenge, teach him a lesson - harass him, embarrass him, contact his wife, contact his wife anonymously, call his friends, contact his family, particularly if her husband has noticed she's been coming home with someone else's fingerprints on her, has been biding his time and confronts her. Then she becomes the innocent party and he's the big, bad older man who took advantage -

Lots of times the wife who gets the letter out of the blue doesn't ask the husband - she just hires someone to check things out.

So keep watching the boards for Part 2.

Thanks for your feedback. I didn't expect such harshness, but like you all said... the truth really does hurt. Good to know I have a bunch of "experts" such as yourselves taking the time to judge me when your lives are probably just as "perfect". In fact, this is the first an only time I've ever attempted to post anything. Many of you have made this site your home instead of the pathetic little lives you should be living. So keep judging harshly and throwing those stones while looking out of those glass houses. A stone will be thrown your way soon enough. Smooches... Einsteins.

And for the record, the sex was extremely great. Never had any complaints on his part. My life is fine, work on getting yours together.

Thanks for your feedback. I didn't expect such harshness, but like you all said...the truth really does hurt. Good to know I have a bunch of "experts" such as yourselves taking the time to judge me when your lives are probably just as "perfect". In fact, this is the first an only time I've ever attempted to post anything. Many of you have made this site your home instead of the pathetic little lives you should be living. So keep judging harshly and throwing those stones while looking out of those glass houses. A stone will be thrown your way soon enough. Smooches...Einsteins.


Bitter much?

Not at all... I appreciate the feedback. Except, you all are a bunch of smartass know-it-alls without half a clue of what's really going on.

And for the record, the sex was extremely great. Never had any complaints on his part. My life is fine, work on getting yours together.

I love my life , and I don't need or would ever contemplate screwing around behind my partners back to fulfill it.

The truth hurts Carmen, and a ho is a ho, and that's what you are.

Not surprised, so many people come here, ask their question, and then get mad when they aren't told what they want to hear.

There are many good people on this site, and because we're good people, none of us can or will condone what you do. You are cheating on your husband, with a married man, for the sake of financial gains, you are a hooker. Look it up in the dictionary dear.

And if someone throws a rock at my glass house, at least I won't have to go to my John to get the money to fix it. Think about it.

Good luck.

Yeah what is really going on
Husband being cheated on
Wife being cheated on
AND you are not in their bedroom to see what wife does and doesn't do for him so he can claim anything he wants.

Perhaps my tone has confused you all... I'm far from angry or being a whore for that matter. You "good people" just simply amaze me at how you pass judgement so easily. I don't know you, but I bet you're far from perfect yourself. We all make mistakes... I can admit that. I think you all deliberately says foolish things in hopes of evoking emotion of out others for entertainment. And that's truly sad, which is why I withdrew the question. But, it's cool... at least I know the type of people I've been dealing with. Speaking the truth is one thing, but attempting to hurt the feelings of others seeking advice for entertainment is pure ignorance. Over and out.

We see a unsuspecting wife and an unsuspecting husband and know how it feels to be in their shoes even though they do not know it is not fair to them.

Crap, I came into this thread a little late.

... what'd I miss?

From what I can gather...

Carmen's married. She's cheating on her hubby with another married man. She wants... money... of some sort?

Well say that... not what you've been saying. You have no right to be s about this. It's not your wife or husband.

crap, I came into this thread a little late.

...what'd I miss?

from what I can gather...

Carmen's married. She's cheating on her hubby with another married man. She wants...money...of some sort?

That's about it sneezy , but she wants one more thing , SYMPATHY

... and there are some extenuating circumstances to justify cheating...

So often the person coming here looking for help is already too far gone, and we've scored another one. This little lady had nothing wrong with her that good old common sense wouldn't take care of. Us wasting time saying it out loud for her just gives her someone else to snipe at instead of looking in the mirror and declaring "you will do better with your life."

Not going to happen, and now she can look down her nose at the people here... good thing since her "lovely" little tryst has gone so well.

Carmen, tell me it ain't so.

... why do you want money?. why do you want sympathy?. why are you cheating?

OK... well, I'll entertain you boring folks for one last session. Wasn't looking for sympathy at all. Just got a little more than what I bargained for and that's OK too. No harm no foul. I can take the heat... remember it was I who entered the kitchen in the first place.

But... I don't even know what's going on.

... I didn't give you no heat.

This is where I get off. And poor sneezy, this was definitely pure entertainment for him. Sorry your life isn't more exciting. Take care folks, thanks for the advice.

Sneezy, she feels that her sexual services are worth some financial compensation. She doesn't enjoy having sex with the married man she's cheating with, she does it because he takes her to nice places and buys her things. It's no longer enough, she wants cold hard cash too, after all, she is providing a service, right?

Carmen, yes, we see a spade, we call it a spade, we see a sky, we call it a sky, we see a ho, we call it a ho. What is it that you expected? Sympathy. You made your bed, now lay in it. JB is right, you are beyond help.

And dear, this is not entertainment, it's my worst nightmare, just when I think that human beings can't sink any lower, you prove me wrong. So thank you, my rose colored glasses are off!

Maybe we'll catch series II when the wife takes them to Jerry Springer.

Wow, No Help, now that would be entertainment. This, not so much. ;)

Ah, got it.

... well, I can see the whole "taking her to nice places" idea... I mean, why not, right? You only live once... plus, dignity can be regained in the morning, as long as you wash it.

As far as you wanting money, now that's just greedy. Tell me, how good are you in bed that you deserve money?. and how much are you asking for? Around $50... 100? Anything more than that and you're in vain... girls on the corner of 5th and main are around that price and they're pretty good at what they do. I mean really. They're good.

I'll admit, a ho sleeps around... you're sleeping with only one guy, so I wouldn't go as far as calling you a ho... but an entrepreneur. I understand. The market's doing poorly... we got to make due. A couple of weeks ago, I saw a couple arguing in a parking lot, so I did the girl a service by dismembering the guy's body... and will you know it? She didn't pay me!! I did HER a service, and she got mad at ME. Ridiculous, some people these days. Well, that's what I get for trying to make a buck.

And Carmen, yes. This is entertainment for me. You're right... my life's kind of boring... you know, studying and whatnot... trying to get a better future so I don't have to resort to sleeping with someone for money.. . sometimes, we blame our parents, but a lot of the times.. we just got to blame you.

Pce homie.

I guess she is right about being us no better and all. I could have easily went for the ho thang IF I had wanted to; but I decided I'd rather cut corners and live on less, and with less, and have less,.
I guess I should have thought of the bigger picture and then I would have been better off with more.

Carmen, It is the gold digging, money hungry, cheap women like you, that lack any sense of morality that gives the rest us self respecting, dignified, trustworthy women a really bad name. I pity your husband for having to put up with your lack of respect and immorality!

I'm sure all of the screwed up kids in the world will also thank you for the advice you are likely to give them too, when they follow in your footsteps!

::applause... applause! ::

By the way Carmen, why did you remove your original post? A little embarrassed honey? It really doesn't matter though, we all know what you originally wrote to begin with. You are now saying that we are being mean, but all gave their opinions on your original question, which is what you were asking for! What gives?

She gone starbs. She gone.

... hope she comes back. I'm actually intrigued by her.

Yeah like Marilyn Monroe and JFK or something like that.

Of course she left, she probably has a "date".

Now wouldn't it be sad if hubby somehow found her post and all the responses? I feel sorry for him, he has no idea what he married in to.

... and it doesn't sound like he (hubby) is getting rich off the deal either!! :( :( :( :eek:

Did it ever occur to you all the real reason people come here. I've said it before, real advice, not criticism. I asked for your help, yes. But, I didn't ask you to personalize MY problems. An objective view on things was all I asked. That is why I withdrew the question. It will now be the responsible of you all to keep this ridiculous forum going--not me. So what, you know what I said originally. It's your pathetic life, waste it trying to explain mine to everyone else. Where did I go, no idiot I didn't have a date tonight. It was actually last night and we went to, yet, another "nice place". None of you know, none of you can judge me. By the way, you all confirmed my suspicions. I looked at some of the other postings and this is all you pathetic, simple people do. Read, judge, and criticize others truly looking for objectives views and opinions. Yes, your names are all over this site saying some of the same stupid things. Again, no harm no foul. You dummies are on your own.

Nope, it's lose, lose for hubby.

Now I have some advice for her. Leave hubby, find a rich man, marry him, then you can stop this behavior.

I still don't understand what advice she was seeking for..

If she could/should get money out of the dude for her services,

Did it ever occur to you all the real reason people come here. I've said it before, real advice, not criticism. I asked for your help, yes. But, I didn't ask you to personalize MY problems. An objective view on things was all I asked. That is why I withdrew the question. It will now be the responsible of you all to keep this ridiculous forum going--not me. So what, you know what I said originally. It's your pathetic life, waste it trying to explain mine to everyone else. Where did I go, no idiot I didn't have a date tonight. It was actually last night and we went to, yet, another "nice place". None of you know, none of you can judge me. By the way, you all confirmed my suspicions. I looked at some of the other postings and this is all you pathetic, simple people do. Read, judge, and criticize others truly looking for objectives views and opinions. Yes, your names are all over this site saying some of the same stupid things. Again, no harm no foul. You dummies are on your own.


I did give you real advice. Leave your poor husband, poor in so many ways. Let him go, let him find someone else, someone who loves him. After you leave, and get a divorce, go find a rich guy, preferably old, maybe he'll die soon and leave you everything, then you won't have to "work" for a living anymore.

No date tonight, that was last night, another nice place, well kudos to you. You have your life all figured out, don't you? You are in denial.

You didn't come here to ask how to stop having an affair, you didn't come here to ask if this was hurting your husband, or your lovers wife, you didn't come her to tell us that you love him so much, in fact, you said the opposite, don't really care for him, the sex isn't great, but he takes you out to nice places etc. Why did you come here? For advice on how to be a hooker, that's exactly what you wanted to know. How can I get my lover to pay me for my services? Well, I should have said this in the beginning. Read the rules and regulations, we can not give you info on illegal practices, last time I checked, prostitution is illegal!

As for me and my fellow dummies, I happen to know they're good people, we just get really angry when unscrupulous people, people with no morals, come into our midst. So yes, we were harsh, and you deserved nothing less.

Good luck.

OH!

In that case, I can give unbiased advice:

I'm sure you can. Why not try? Start with "I'm not in the mood today...I just got hit with a HUGE credit card bill..." then sweetly look into his eyes... see what happens.

Should you? Why not? It's a bear market! Hey, anything to make a buck right? Remember, though... dismembering does NOT earn you any dough.

... now that I've read over altenweg's post... her advice seems a bit better.

... but you pick.

Option doesn't seem leave hubby and find rich single available man.
I always wondered if the two that get cheated on ever end up hooking up!?
Talk about a modern day fairy tale

Can me, altenweg and the OP have the copyrights to this post :D

Can me, altenweg and the OP have the copyrights to this post :D


We could charge for transcripts of this thread. :)

Then use the -earned- money for the book deal and movie rights.

What would we call it? Hmmm, has to be a catchy name.

Want to talk about possibilites? Meet me in the castle;

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/lounge/castle-doom-2-new-improved-235749.html

Was that entertaining enough for you Carmen? So sorry you didn't have a date tonight. He may have over extended his credit card privileges, and his wife confiscated it and went out shopping at Saks today! Or... he is out spending his bucks on the next sucker!. no pun intended!

I think maybe she gets it now? What do you guys think? I hope that the husband finds the thread or somebody will tell him the truth.

We are being a bit mean guys, but really, this is ridiculous. I've never believed in sugar coating things, I call it like I see it, and this one was so easy to call.

Believe that she doesn't understand why we said the things we did. I can't believe that she thinks what she's doing is okay. It's mind boggling.

I'm no angel, I admit that, but this story, jeesh, wouldn't ever occur to me, not in a million years, and she's so nochalant about it. Should he pay for my services?

Carmen, really, look up prostitute or hooker in the dictionary.

I think maybe she gets it now? What do you guys think? I hope that the husband finds the thread or somebody will tell him the truth.

I hope so too Joe, and I'm sure he'll find out sooner or later, especially if her "boyfriend" starts paying her.

I know, we should stop now, it's just so hard to accept that this is how some people live their lives. It makes me so angry.

It's time to let it go everyone. It was a bad situation, we said our peace, she's gone, having learned absolutely nothing, and that's her problem. Nothing we can do or say to make her see the light.

Remember, what comes around, goes around, so in the end, she'll learn, one way or the other.

I'm out. :)

Tal had it right. We all called it what it is, but now she has reacted to everybody. She has got many reddies, one by me. I just wished there was somehow the original question could be reposted again. Thank you Alty.

Thank you Joe, you're so right, it's time to call it quits. :)

We did our best, and our worst, now it's time to end it. :)

Chow everyone! :)

THE END

P00R HUBBY!