I recently received this in an email. Any comments?

If this isn't disgusting, then I don't know what is!! To give this kind of an explanation tells me he thinks most Americans can't read, see, or comprehend what this man is about.
The comment really nails it!

'LTG Bill Ginn' USAF retired forwarded:

Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171,
"During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart."

'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, 'Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. ' I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial.. ' - Barack Obama.

Comment:
If someone had told me 64 years ago, as I was roaring down the runway in the most beautiful airplane in the world, that I would see our country subjected to one of the most disgusting Presidential elections imaginable, I would have told them they were crazy as hell...
What in the world have we come to? And, Obama wants to be the leader of the
American Military?! Commander in Chief??

HOW DID HE GET THIS FAR??

If you agree , forward to everyone you know.

It is inconceivable that he be our next President.

Kerry was inconceivable too that is how we ended up with Bush

Now McCain being inconceivable is going to get Obama in

Our entire political party is inconceivable and just keeps on conceiving worse bad apples.

Yes believe every spam email I bet you believe you won that 10,000 from africa also??

Of course I don't believe those. This one I got from someone I know, and I was just wondering if anyone had any evidence to verify it or otherwise. So far just opinions, no evidence one way or the other, but opinions are welcome too. =)

yes beleive every spam email I bet you beleive you won that 10,000 from africa also ????

I didn't 'win 10,000 from Africa. I got a proposal from Nigeria that if I sent him money he would send me money back to put into a business venture with him and then he would come marry me. LOL

I didn't 'win 10,000 from Africa. I got a proposal from Nigeria that if I sent him money he would send me money back to put into a business venture with him and then he would come marry me. LOL

Send me enough money and I can arrange a marriage with one of my sons. LOL,

You know, I get those all the time. You don't think it's the same person do you? Don't take this personally N0help4u, but I just couldn't share a man with anyone. Nor do business with my husbands "other" wife. Haha.

Smoke here you go Fight the Smears | Fight the Smears Home (http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/)

Since there are so many Fake smears going around the internet and EMAIL about Obama he created this web site. I am sure if you went on this site all of year fears will be squashed.

Anonymous propagandists sitting around love to mythologize the military services and war, and, boy, do fat guys sitting behind a computer eat it all up!!

If you want to see what war is really like... watch HBO's new series on the Iraq War beginning Sunday.

Who produced the HBO series?

Generation Kill (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Kill_%28TV_series%29)

Generation Kill is a television miniseries based on Evan Wright's book of the same name. The series will air on HBO on July 13, 2008 and span seven hours. It is produced by David Simon, Ed Burns, Nina K. Noble, Andrea Calderwood, George Faber, and Charles Pattinson.



Production

The cable channel HBO has greenlighted a seven-hour miniseries, based on Evan Wright's book about his experiences as an embedded reporter with the 1st Reconnaissance Battalion during the Iraq war's first phase in 2003.



Crew

David Simon and Ed Burns (The Wire) have come aboard to co-write and executive produce the project alongside Company Pictures' George Faber and Charles Pattinson (Elizabeth I). The pair will take over for Adi Hasak, who was originally attached to pen the project. The miniseries will reportedly be shot as seven one-hour installments with production on the six-month shoot set to begin in Summer 2007 in Namibia, Mozambique, and South Africa. Andrea Calderwood (The Last King of Scotland) is producing; Nina Noble (The Wire) will serve as a co-executive producer.

Susanna White and Simon Cellan Jones will direct episodes of the series.



Cast

The starring cast will include Alexander Skarsgard, James Ransone, Lee Tergesen, Billy Lush, Rey Valentin, Jon Huertas, Kellan Lutz, Pawel Szajda, Stephan Otto, Sal Alvarez, Stark Sands, Marc Menchaca, Wilson Bethel, Daniel Fox, Chris Martins and Rudy Reyes.



Episodes

Episode 1: Get Some - July 13, 2008
Episode 2: The Cradle of Civilization - July 20, 2008
Episode 3: Screwby - July 27, 2008
Episode 4: Combat Jack - August 3, 2008
Episode 5: A Burning Dog - August 10, 2008
Episode 6: Stay Frosty - August 17, 2008
Episode 7: Pending - August 24, 2008

snopes.com: Obama Explains National Anthem Stance (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp)

This is false.

That 's pretty sad that people are taking satirical writing as fact. Maybe the 'Onion ' can replace the old grey lady The NY Slimes as the paper of record (the again the Slimes is more than half way there themselves ) .

Already Jon Stewart's and Steve Colbert's show pass as serious news reporting and commentary. That is why fact checking is critical .

I keep on advising Obama opponents that there is plenty to work with and not sink to these smears . It won't work ;and neither will Democrat's trying to disaparage McCain's military service.However ;I encourage them to continue along that line because it will surely backfire.

Re : Generation Kill Guess I'm just one of them fat guys behind the keyboard.

I like this line from the Washington Post Review of the book:

In Wright's view, this sample of the front line of the American military "would be virtually unrecognizable to their forebears in 'The Greatest Generation.'

They are soldiers who's thinking is that they have a job to do . Wright details the generation's transformation from " not a whole lot was expected of this generation other than the hope that those in it would squeak through high school without pulling too many more mass shootings in the manner of Columbine" ..... to a great generation of Americans . Wright reports many of them since his report have re-signed . This past 4th of July weekend there were hundreds who re-upped in Iraq.

They are not the murderers that people like Jack Murtha portray them to be.

Tom, but the smear in this post was against Obama, not McCain. McCain's military record stands excellent, at least in my book. However his being prisoner in Vietnam is not a selective criteria for presidency. We had many valued American soldiers that stood in the face of adversity, that's not a knock against John McCain. Take the military record history out of the McCain presidency equation and we're close to having a G.W. Bush clone.

Bobby

There is a concerted effort by Democrats to diminish his record. Clark's garbage was but one example. Jay Rockafeller made cracks about McCain's heroism by using high altitude bombing . Tom Harkin simularily made disparaging comments about McCain's service. Bill Clinton suggested the other day that McCain's temper could be the results of "flashbacks"
This has been picked up by the Democrat blog sites and I will not even bother posting what they have said .

Smoke here you go Fight the Smears | Fight the Smears Home (http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/)

Since there are so many Fake smears going around the internet and EMAIL about Obama he created this web site. I am sure if you went on this site all of year fears will be squashed.

Fight the Smears huh?

"I am not a Muslim"!!

Wonder what the American Muslim population thinks about this candidate who believes that being called a Muslim, is a smear?

Progunr- Being painted a closet Muslim extremist via email chains is a smear and lie. The guy is not a follower of Islam period.

Tom- Good points. I've been so busy with the family and work lately that I haven't watched much news. I finally cracked a peek at CNN and FOX about 11 o'clock last night. I do know that McCain's military record is excellent. Going after McCain for his military service would not be my approach, but then again I'm not a paid campaign advisor.

Progunr you know as well as I do that most of America would not vote for some who is Muslim. So if you call him a Muslim over and over and over again people will believe he is a muslim and not vote for him. Kind of like G W did with Saddam, he said over and over and over again that Saddam has weapons of mass destructions. He said it so much it must be true. Low and behold 5 years later no WMD's and 2800 of our soldiers dead and countless more injured ALL BECAUSE OF A LIE!!
That is why He has to say he is not muslim. I really thought you were smarter then that Progunr.

A week before the US Congressional elections of 2006 The New York Times published a front-page story which all but admitted that Iraq's nuclear program had been active until March 2003.
Documents seized by the US forces contained the truth about Iraq's ongoing nuclear program.
The documents in question contained Iraqi nuclear bomb designs that could be useful to rogue states like Iran which are currently working to build a nuclear arsenal.
Late 2004 Syria began developing a nuclear program near its border with Turkey.This is the site that Israel bombed out of existence in Sept. of last year. The Syrian program relied "on equipment and materials that the sons of the deposed Iraqi leader, Uday and Qusai… transfer[red] to Syria by using dozens of civilian trucks and trains, before and after the US-British invasion in March 2003." The Syrian nuclear program was supported by the Iranians together with Iraqi nuclear scientists .

Ariel Sharon in the months leading up to the US-led invasion of Iraq warned of convoys of trucks traveling from Iraq to Syria. Sharon's warnings were later supported by statements from former IDF chief of staff Lt. Gen. Moshe Ya'alon, who said last year that Iraq had moved its unconventional arsenals to Syria in the lead-up to the invasion.

ACCORDING TO the US Senate's Prewar Intelligence Review Phase II, which studied the prewar intelligence on Iraq's nuclear weapons program, in 2002, the US had learned from the Iraqi foreign minister that while Iraq had not yet acquired a nuclear arsenal, "Iraq was aggressively and covertly developing" nuclear weapons. The Senate report concluded that Saddam was told by his own weapons specialists that Iraq would achieve nuclear weapons capabilities "within 18-24 months of acquiring fissile material."

In the weeks and months after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the US, President Bush repeatedly stated that America's primary security challenge was to prevent the world's most dangerous regimes from acquiring nonconventional, and particularly nuclear weapons. When Bush's statements are assessed against information that has been aacquired since the invasion, it becomes clear that the invasion successfully prevented Saddam Hussein from acquiring nuclear weapons.

This week we transported the last of 500 tons of yellow cake uranium out of Iraq.

I believe that to be the case. There were lots of articles early on that suggested suspicious things being moved by train just before we invaded. I'll bet one day the whole truth will emerge.

Progunr you know as well as I do that most of America would not vote for some who is Muslim. So if you call him a Muslim over and over and over again people will believe he is a muslim and not vote for him. Kind of like G W did with Saddam, he said over and over and over again that Saddam has weapons of mass destructions. He said it so much it must be true. Low and behold 5 years later no WMD's and 2800 of our soliders dead and countless more injured ALL BECAUSE OF A LIE!!!!!!!
That is why He has to say he is not muslim. I really thought you were smarter then that Progunr.
I'm plenty smart enough to understand "why" he's doing it, that was not my question.

My question was, what does it say about all the Muslim's in America, and how do they feel about him calling it a "smear".

I suppose you believe that it was not a good thing, to have removed Saddam from power, and put an end to his murder of his own people, as well as others?

You think America, or Iraq for that matter, would be in a better position right now, if he were still running things in Iraq?

I think not.

Well I personally don't see a reason we maybe should not redo the national anthem. I would see God Bless America as a much better choice

I'm sorry, but you don't just "change" our National Anthem.

It IS our National Anthem.

I am Proud of it!

"rockets red glare, bombs bursting in air"

Yeah, ALL of it.

I don't know... Toby Keith's Courtesy of the red white and blue has my vote for back up Anthem. :D

Of course for African americans there is a "black national anthem"

Black National Anthem (http://www.black-network.com/anthem.htm)

But the US national anthem was not even official till 1931. And because of the relations between the US and England we have stopped using the 3rd verse to the national anthem all together, so we have already made changes to what we use for political reasons.

History of the US National Anthem (http://www.gbjann.com/anthem/history.htm)

I like "My Country tis of thee" It is easy to sing and has a lot of meaning.

I used to think ' America the Beautiful ' but now there is no sub for the 'Star Spangled Banner'... even the extra verse Sandi Patty added to it .

The web site has been up for a while now and I haven't heard any reports of an uproar from the Muslim population in America. And the fact is like BABRAM already stated they are trying to paint him as this extreme closet Muslim who once he gets in to office will make everyone pray 5 times a day. I think the Muslims in America recognize that and are not offended. But maybe I am wrong.

I don't remember anyone saying Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 so I can't say we are more or less safe with him dead. Did Saddam have to be dealt with yes. But it just seems wrong to remove some one from power, from a country that is not your own, with out the rest of the world behind you. We are not the worlds swat team.

As for the National Anthem (since this is what this post is about) I like it. All the other songs are great to although I don't listen to Toby Keith so I never heard his song.

By saying the rest of the world you mean Germany ,France ,and Russia. Do you ignore the information about their involvement in the Oil for Food Scandal and how that might have been their motivation for their opposition to taking out Saddam ?

The truth is that besides the UN sanctions that were being violated there was also the matter of the cease-fire from the 1990 Desert Storm that he routinely violated also .

Now you say We are not the worlds swat team ; but you ignore that the world had no problem with the idea of the United States and Great Britain keeping a permanent presence in the Gulf and charged us with the mission of enforcing no-fly zones that were set up after Saddam massacred Shia and Kurd populations after the Gulf War .You don't mention that the US and Britain acted as points of the spear in the enfocement of the sanctions. You neglect to mention that Iraqi defenses were firing on US and British planes patrolling the zones.

For those reasons alone we were justified in taking him out.

Tom you are telling me Canada, Chile, China, Greece, Croatia, Mexico, India, Russia, Argentina, Vietnam, Austria, New Zeland, Norway just to name a few don't count as countries against the war?

Since us GB and France setup the no fly zone who else would protect it? And planes getting shot at in a country that doesn't want us there (yes I know the Gulf war was needed) really justifies another war? A plane getting shot at really justifies the BILLIONS of dollars in debt this country is in now. That really justifies over 2800 soldiers dead and countless more missing limbs.

LOL Political season is in full swing and so are the... lively exchanges. In a way I want to cry that we must resort to such arguments and in a way it's quite hilarious to watch.

Instead of going to a Pro McCain site, or Obama's personal website (what do you THINK those sites will say? ) try going here:

Truthorfiction.com

FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/)

Their object is to find the truth, not to endorse a candidate, which makes them much more believable in my book.

FactCheck.org: Did Obama say the National Anthem conveys a "war-like message" and should be swapped for something such as "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing"? (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_say_the_national_anthem_conveys.html)

Yes, the e-mail is false. Full explanation of how it got started given on the above web page.

You think America, or Iraq for that matter, would be in a better position right now, if he were still running things in Iraq?Hello Prog:

Lets see... About 600,000 dead Iraqi's might think things are worse. Plus, spending trillions of $$$'s on a war of choice, didn't make US better off either..

Are we safer?? No, not by a long shot. In the first place, we weren't in danger when he WAS running Iraq. Plus, Iran is much stronger as a direct result of the dufus in chief.

Nope. I think we are in a much worse position because of the war in Iraq.

excon

I'm very disappointed in obama. I don't know if I'll ever vote again, unless I check someone out so thoroughly it becomes an obsession. Shame on you obama. Gee, I wonder what GOD thinks about this, or is that politicly incorrect!! :mad:yes I am!!

I wonder what GOD thinks about this, Hello renee:

I think you're uninformed and a bigot.

God