Ive always had these really dark blue veins under my eyes. I went to the dermatologist today to see about getting laser treatment done to get rid of them. The doctor told me as with all procedures there is risks but that since its so close to my eye there's serious risks. I was just wondering if there's anyone that has had this procedure done under the eyes or that knows how likely it is that something could go wrong?

Lptphp2, there are many reasons the veins beneath the eyes become more prominent. Exposure to the sun and age often cause the delicate under eye skin to become even thinner and so the veins are more apparent.

Sclerotherapy is standard in the treatment of veins but it should not be performed near the eye, unless the dermatologist or surgeon is highly skilled. Sclerotherapy was found to be effective in permanently removing veins around the eyes. Perhaps you should look for a dermatologist that does sclerotherapy beneath the eyes. Also, there's another procedure that requires excision or ligation (tying off) of the veins. This could be performed through an inconspicuous incision and would give you the best result with minimal risk of scarring. Talk to another dermatologist, they may be able to help you get rid of the veins.

Ive always had these really dark blue veins under my eyes. I went to the dermatologist today to see about getting laser treatment done to get rid of them. The doctor told me as with all procedures there is risks but that since its so close to my eye theres serious risks. I was just wondering if theres anyone that has had this procedure done under the eyes or that knows how likely it is that something could go wrong?
I have the same problem too. Just like you I want those veins gone for good, they make me look old and tired.Did your dermatologist tell you that it's laser treatment that can help you rid of those veins?I can't remember the type/name of laser treatment used but I thought that treatment doesn't have any side effects and I'm thinking of undergoing it.Just don't know the cost, could you please tell me the ballpark of the cost for the procedure.Thanks.

My dermatologist had told me that since the veins are so close to my eye that the laser treatment would be the safest but that there would still be risks since the laser was being used so close to my eyes. The price varies depending on the Doctor doing it but ballpark is roughly $100-$350 per 15 minute session. Some people require multiple sessions whereas some see results after only one treatment. I think price also depends on the extent of the vein and how many your having treated. I waitng to hear back from the doctor today to find out when I'm going to be able to go in. She had said that its just an in and out procedure no post treatment besides staying out of the sun for a while but that's pretty much it. Ill make sure to let you know what happens and how it goes.

[QUOTE=lptphp2]My dermatologist had told me that since the veins are so close to my eye that the laser treatment would be the safest but that there would still be risks since the laser was being used so close to my eyes. The price varies depending on the Doctor doing it but ballpark is roughly $100-$350 per 15 minute session. Some people require multiple sessions whereas some see results after only one treatment. I think price also depends on the extent of the vein and how many your having treated. I waitng to hear back from the doctor today to find out when I'm going to be able to go in. She had said that its just an in and out procedure no post treatment besides staying out of the sun for a while but that's pretty much it. Ill make sure to let you know what happens and how it goes.[/QUOTE

Thanks for the info.Hopefully everything goes well for you.Are you going to undergo the so called "coolglide excel laser treatment"? I've been hearing about it, not sure if that's what your procedure is.
The laser treatment you mentioned is quite pricey for a 15 min session.Wow.
But hey, if it's going to rid those unsightly veins, why not go for it. Just have to find a reputable doctor around my area.
Anyway, good luck to you and please let me know the results.

You mentioned about the side effects, how serious are they? Will the procedure affect the vision?Thanks for the reply.

I'm actually going in for the procedure on Thursday. Like with any procedure dealing with your eyes there's always a risk but they use a metal like cover over you eyes to shield them from the laser and angel it away from your eyes. There is plenty of precautions they take to protect your eyes but there's always a chance that something could still happen.

Thanks for the info.Is the procedure you're going through called "Cool glide excel laser treatment"? That's what I read they say will hopefully "eliminate" those veins.
Anyway, hope everythings goes well for U.Keep me posted.

Hi. I have dark veins under my eyes and it really bothers me. I use concealer to cover them but you can still see them. They are there all the time and if I had one wish it would for them to disappear! I've been researching and have heard about CoolGlide Laser Treatment. I was just wondering if anybody could tell me if it works for this problem? I will be booking an appointment in the next month and I really hope that it is an option. I've had enough of these dark under eye circles that have been on my face since I was a child. I would really appreciate it if somebody replied a response to me because I am looking for answers.

All those with blue veins under eyes - depending on where under the eye, they can be super easy to treat. I tried the injections they do on leg veins, but it left injection mark scars and took forever to get rid of the scar. Then I went to a laser place in Tempe, AZ and for $300 bucks total, he zapped them on both eyes and they were gone forever. It didn't even hurt that bad either.

I have same problem 2 blue vein and several small red veins. I decided to do something went to a center in oc and she applied a laser around eyes. Scion laser; It has been 2 weeks no change at all. She also applied higher frequensy on the back of my legs... right away they disappeared; so I wondered is it ever going to go away?? those ugly veins around my eyes..? plllleaaaaaaase any one any answers
I am going back in 6 weeks I wonder is my $300 bucks was down to tube? lol---I am hoping the nice lady that listed the questions in the first place---IPtphp2 will come to my rescue-------yaaaaaahooooooooo and tell me what kind of laser was it--mine was scion and she used same thing back of my legs but different feeling... around eyes she put a glass and then a cooling gel and I honestly felt cool ice creamy sensation... I prayed and prayed and came out ----no difference---I wanted to cry and she gave me a vaseline looking gel and went home all the back of foot had disappeared but not the ugly ones under my eyes... I hope you read this message and tell me what laser she used in ARIZONA if you know.. tnx and cheers

Okay, I don't know what laser my guy in AZ used but maybe your gal used the wrong kind of laser.

The guy's name is Dr. Bergmeier and I think the place is called Perfect skin and Laser... he's in Tempe, AZ and just do a Google search for his name and the city and you will come across him - the website has a red background... he's super knowledgeable and always on the cutting edge - you can just call and ask what laser they would use for veins under your eyes - and if they tell you they need to see you first, just ask what they would normally use for blue veins... also maybe it gives that info on their website - then you can call some laser places around LA who will do it with that laser. I would make that lady give your 300 bucks back or try it again at no cost. I do think my guy may have said that it might take more than once, but for me it didn't. I am telling you, he zapped each side and the veins that had bugged me for two years were gone forever!! Lasers are the best!!

:) thank you so much. You are a doll. Xoxox

I will start searching for his name and website. Thanks so much
God bless

I stumbled across this forum after another morning waking up, looking at my large blue vein under my left eye and getting upset it hadn't 'miraculously' disappeared over night.
I hate my vein under my eye, I cover it up but still see it or know it's there. I don't have to use cover up for anything else so it's obvious. I absolutely hate it!
I was really excited when I read this Question but upset the person who asked it has never come back to report her news.
Has anyone had any luck getting rid of their under eye veins? I live in the UK, so can't make it to Tempe, but if it works I might one day have to book a flight over there!
Any help/results/ names of good treatments that might be accessible in the UK would be much appreicated.

Thanks

Hi guys I'm so glad that there are people out there wiv the same problem as me(dnt mean it in a bad way) Im sooooo deppressed about the veins under my eye. I get people come up to me and ask if I'm OK n if I've been punched in the eye. I look like a zombie sometimes. I SOO BADLY Want to GET RID OF THEM. Anyone tried anyfin? Please post!! Thank you huns

I'm SO glad to see all you people who understand and have this problem too!

I've had two dark purple veins under my eyes, which look like bruises, for 7 years. Every morning I wake up, looking in the mirror and feel depressed for the whole day! They make me look tired, old and ugly and I'm only 20!

I can't leave the house without concealer, I have to put this thick concealer under my eyes every single day to hide the dark veins under my eyes. It takes forever to apply too and if I don't get it right, it looks caked on and obvious, so then I have to take it off and start again. During the day I can't touch my eye area at all in case I accidentally rub off the concealer! ARGH. It's SO frustrating, I've become really depressed by it. :(

I don't even show anyone, they stand out so much on my face, it's unbelievable! I've got clear light-ish skin, with two thick dark purple veins circling under my eyes.

I've been looking online for ages but nobody seems to have the same thing, and quite honestly, I'm SO sick to death of people saying to sleep more, drink more water etc or, possibly the most annoying: "it's just your bone structure making your under eye area look dark"... No it's not! It's these dark blue/purple veins and red broken capillaries that are doing it!

I've tried every cream I can get my hands on too, does nothing.

I've got an appointment with the dermatologist on Thursday, I'm so nervous of showing them and taking off my concealer in front of them but I know it has to be done. I'm also SO scared that they might say they can't do anything (but thankfully this thread has given me some hope).

I'm so desperate to get rid of them, this concealer is drying out my eye area and the more I keep rubbing this concealer on, every-single-day, my eyes are going to look old before I hit 40.

I'm in the UK by the way

Hi depressed girl

I know how you feel. I don't wear makeup except to cover those nasty veins under my eyes. I hate it sooooooooooooooooo much that sum days I don't go out when its really obvious. I use so much concealer myself that I feel I'm just draggin my eye skin down. I wudnt dream of going out wivout my concealer!! Im also in the uk PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ LET ME KNOW HOW IT GOES WIV DERMATOLOGIST AND WHAT THEY Recommend!! Thanks hun and good luck :)

Hi all,
I'm back from the dermatologist.

I've been dreading this day for months, I had to show them my eyes, the one thing I'm so horribly self-conscious of that I won't even let my boyfriend stay over because he might see my eyes without concealer.

I went, showed them, and guess what? They said "That is quite bad but there's nothing we can do, lasers etc won't work", "Maybe you're anemic."

And that's it. My final result, and what can I do? CRAP ALL.

I'm so heart broken right now, I finally thought I could get rid of this and be normal like everyone else but no, I'm going to be stuck with this all my life, and the doctor's confirmed that.

So I've got to get blood tests done now =[ Even if I am anemic, will these thick bruises under my eyes ever go away with meds? I've lost all hope now.

Hey depressed girl,
Believe me I know how you feel, I have exactly the same problems as you including the veins, broken vessels and having to use concealer and guess what I'm a man!

Ive seen so many people regarding this problem and have traveled to the states (im from UK). Ive researched a lot on the subject and it seems that there doesn't seem to be a true effective treatment out there, crazy in this age.

However Im still hopeful that something soon will help. I hope it does because it affects my life on a big scale. I have found a few options which I'm considering. Get in touch

Hi cjfox!

It amazes me just how little anyone can do about it right now, too. The dermatologist took just a few seconds to tell me there's nothing they can do and that laser won't work either, I really want to see another dermatologist to at least get a second opinion but I'm starting to wonder if this is it, that they're all going to tell me the same thing.

I've tried changing my diet and sleeping habits again, though, just in case it might help (though I'm doubtful, these are broken vessels and thick veins, but I'm desperate)

Which options are you considering?

Hey,

I'm speaking to variety of doctors, all of whom seem to be top of their game. One is Dr Seckel, type his name in Google. He has a great site and a section where he has answered a lot of questions regarding dark circles. I went to see him in Boston last year, a very nice man with a lot of experience, he actually specializes in dark circles. I have just emailed him today with some questions that could shed a lot of light.

Its seems though that my dark cirlces are the hardest to treat. Thin skin, visible veins etc.

Where under your eye are the veins you want to remove. I ask because I saw a sclerotherapist in London few weeks back who has had success removing these veins by injection.

Its still a fairly new treatment to inject around the eyes but in the states it seems more widely available. Hva e alook at the before and after pics on this site...

Laserderm.net (http://www.laserderm.net/sclerotherapy.html)

Ive also spoken to other doctors on possibly using lasers to close the blue veins and a doctor in England who treats the broken veins on the skin with anew treatment.

Are you on Facebook? I'm on there, its easier to chat on there. Ithink I might have some good options for you. Don't give up hope just yet!

Hey everyone,

I never thought someone would have the same problem as me. I am happy (not in a bad way lol), but sincerely disappointed to know that no one has fund the solution yet.

Like you guys, I suffer every single day with my dark veins under both eyes. I tried all kinds of concealers but they really don't work.. Everyone says to me that I look tiered. I'm really sick of hearing "look at your dark circles, you must rest!".. Please please someone help me!

I am sorry for my english lol I'm portuguese.

In Portugal there is nothing to help me, so I am thinking of going to Uk or maybe even USA to make something about this.. yes I'm completely desperate :(

Good luck everyone, Kiss

Ps: se alguém them Portugal conhecer uma clínica que faça este tipo de tratamentos por favor responda a este post.

I'm in the same boat; large blue vein under my right eye. I just got back from the dermatologist and she said she can't help, but suggested an ocular surgeon. Eye surgery? Great, so now Im stuck like the rest of you... I bought a concealer today, but it doesn't do anything. Im going to resort to folk remedies like apple cider vinegar... a lot of good that will do, eh? I contacted that place in Arizona through email several times, but they never reply.

Hello my friend you well know that everything is risky.But life is not stopped depend on one thing.So you really remove dark blue veins under your eyes then must take the risk.you consult a proper famous dermatologist.

Had the same problem and don't fret there is a cure! You have to choices you can have them Laser therapy which I had done and it worked on some and also you can have Sclerotherapy done which is an injection of the vein. I had both done and my eyes look great! Dr Edward Zimmerman (702) 360-0128 does both or Dr M.H. Bashy (702)838-0444 only does Sclerotherapy.. Dr Zimmerman is the better choice. By the way they are in Las Vegas, Nevada.. So your dematologist lied to you... good luck

Hi Everyone on here-

There is help available. Have you ever heard of fat grafting? It's a procedure that takes fat from a donor sight in your body, and it used to fill parts of your face. It works for dark circles, and to cover up under eye veins. I understand what it feels like to be depressed about under eye problems. I used to cry all the time, and some days couldn't go to work. I was about 23 when they appeared (veins and dark circles), and now I'm 29.

There is a doctor, his name is Steven Svehlak, and he practices in LA. He is flat out amazing. He is completely honest, and is down-to-earth, and incredibly talented. It took four procedures for me to look the way I do now, but I look WAY better than I used to. NOT perfect, but about 70% better.

The fat grafting costs 500-2000 bucks based on what you need. But check out sunset cosmetic surgery's website. I researched him, and found him after seeing about 15 other doctors. I've had tons of laser treatments, tried dozens of creams, restalyne, and have been all over the country trying to find a solution to this problem. Trust me, this is as best as it gets!
I feel so much for all of you! My heart goes out to
You, don't give up! Much love, Maya

Be careful people about treatments with laser around the eye area it might leave with serious permanent scars...

Hi everyone. I'm really surprised to find out that so many people suffer from this. I thought I was some kind of a freak! The veins under my eyes appeared when I was 13. Don't know what brought them on, one minute they weren't there, next minute they were. Since that day, I never leave the house without foundation, concealer and powder under my eyes. I'm starting to really hate it as I feel I can't do all the things I want to, i.e camping etc because I always worry about my make-up coming off and not being apply to re-apply properly.

When I was about 19, I had laser treatment. When the consultant saw the veins, he said 'yes, they are very bad' and that he wasn't sure if the laser would work. I had it anyway and it did absolutely nothing. Then earlier this year, I went for Veinwave which is a new form of laser. The woman doing the treatment was absolutely lovely but said that the veins looked too deep to treat. She tried but once again, it did nothing (she actually gave me the treatment for free!)

Basically, I've now learnt that laser treatment ONLY works for spider or thread veins, i.e.. Red veins which are close to the surface. If your veins are blue this means they are deeper and the laser won't work.

So I am now considering sclerotherapy. Only thing is most places in the UK will not use this for the face, as they say it is too risky. That's why it was nice to read your info cjfox! That place looks really good and even has pics of a woman with blue undereye veins! I think your suggestion Maya79 is also good about the fat grafting but that seems like more of a serious procedure. The only prob with sclerotherapy is that I've read it can close the vein but that other ones will them open around the same area. Also, the thing that worries me is that the vein is supposed to bulge out for a few weeks-month afterwards before it vanishes so that's going to be a bit awkward at work.

I really want to try it because I hate having to cover them up every single morning (it takes ages! ) but I'm going to do more research and maybe travel to USA for it if I can't find anyone in the UK. Has anyone had this done in the UK? If so, what was the name of the place you went to?

Thanks! Don't give up, there's so many diff types of surgery nowadays, there's got to be sth that works on even the most unsightly under eye veins!

Blue and purple color on the lower eyelids is most commonly caused by small blood vessels. I have had really good luck with IPL or Photo-facial treatments recently. Sclerotherapy is OK for large veins but the smaller matted ones are most responsible for eyelid skin color.

I have written an article about the IPL for blue under eyes (http://saveyourface.com/whatsnew/2008/12/27/blue-under-eyes-caused-by-broken-blood-vessels/).

Dr Seckel

Hi .
I am seriously relieved that I am not the only person alive with blue hideous veins.
I am 15 and have been applying, re applying, and once again, applying foundation, and powder under my eyes for 2 years straight now. Every single day. Not ONE day I will go out without my make-up. Even when somebody comes to the door I rush to put a quick layer which looks cakey and un-natural.

I do think I will some laser treatment done within the next few years. Hopefully during or before college. I do not want to have to struggle any more with the burden of having to have a mask under my eyes where nobody can see the real me.
I need to get it done before college/ during college because I am going to be having interviews to become a pharmacist and a model.

Maybe, with my luck I can find a drug to remove blue veins from everyone's under eyes and save the world!! :) hehe can you people wait maybe 5 years for another solution? Ha. You never know. I could be holding our future in my hands. I doubt it though.

For now these few solutions are all we have to "replenish" our face and we will have to live with these options until a more new, more advanced, and more trusted solution comes out.

I think the scipfajoidaofisdy(spelling. Haha) thingy sounds like the best option to me. I await to hear the results of many of you previous answerers.

I do believe once we all get laser/ some different treatment done, we will be gorgeous people.. not like we aren't anyway.

Thanks for the information and I wish you all good luck with either procedure you choose.


"clean linen" :) p.s. I'm in the US

Hi .
I am seriously relieved that I am not the only person alive with blue hideous veins.
I am 15 and have been applying, re applying, and once again, applying foundation, and powder under my eyes for 2 years straight now. Every single day. Not ONE day I will go out without my make-up. Even when somebody comes to the door I rush to put a quick layer which looks cakey and un-natural.

I do think I will get some laser treatment done within the next few years. Hopefully during or before college. I do not want to have to struggle any more with the burden of having to have a mask under my eyes where nobody can see the real me.
I need to get it done before college/ during college because I am going to be having interviews to become a pharmacist and a model.

Maybe, with my luck I can find a drug to remove blue veins from everyone's under eyes and save the world!! :) hehe can you people wait maybe 5 years for another solution? Ha. You never know. I could be holding our future in my hands. I doubt it though.

For now these few solutions are all we have to "replenish" our face and we will have to live with these options until a more new, more advanced, and more trusted solution comes out.

I think the scipfajoidaofisdy(spelling. Haha) thingy sounds like the best option to me. I await to hear the results of many of you previous answerers.

I do believe once we all get laser/ some different treatment done, we will be gorgeous people.. not like we aren't anyway.

Thanks for the information and I wish you all good luck with either procedure you choose.


"clean linen" :) p.s. I'm in the US

Before having surgery try bathing in Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate). Soak +/-30minutes each time, don't add anything else, just 2 cups of Epsom salts. Also wash your eyes daily with the salts (morning & night). You can also put some on your eye area and put a hot towel over it, creating a mask and leaving it on for some time.
It could be that you are getting too little sulfates in your diet (most people do and don't know) and this is causing a build-up of toxins (probably phenol) around the eye/nostrils area. Preventing a proper evacuation through the veins.
I can't assure you that this will help for you, but it's worth a try, isn't it? Epsom salt are available at your drugstore and are very cheap. I pay around €2.5 per kilo.


Hope it helps!

Ok I have been asked for the last time... Hey who gave you the black eye. I am ready to be done with these at 43! I have had them since I can remember. I am going to try the epsom salts... but really running around getting ready for work I can't see soaking for 30 min is going to fit in my schedule! The veins are large these are not spider veins! They are real veins just as large as the one in my wrist. Some days are better than others. I am going to see a doctor about cutting them out. I believe they make two small incisions and then cauterize them and take the vein out. I would rather have two small scars that I can lather cocoa butter on than two black eyes constantly. I have to admit they are less noticeable with lots of sleep, which I don't have the luxury of right now! I will post what luck I have, but the laser is for SPIDER veins only.

Seriously, try it! What have you got to lose? :cool:
Also, if you want to try taking it internally. 1 TEAspoon a day in a glass of water will be sufficient, more might give you diarrhea :s
If you don't have the time to soak for 30 minutes... try making a cream with the Epsom salts.
Epsom Salt Recipies (http://adopttwoboys.blogspot.com/2007/07/epsom-salt-recipies.html)
This worked for me! I had BLACK circles and a double fold under my eyes which made me look extremely tired and probably older than I really am (24 yrs). I had them forever since I was a kid and wondered why I had them as every blood test I had done came out with a "normal" result only showing an allergy to dairy which I didn't consume anyway. Well apparently my liver didn't absorb everything correctly and taking epsom salt daily has been of great benefit. After taking epsom I can eat / drink whatever I want and nothing happens. I can eat normal ice cream now and don't have to limit myself to sorbets or Popsicles!:D
Note that it took me about 2 months to get rid of them completely, but they started fading after a 2-3 weeks or so which was very encouraging.;) I only bathe once a week in it as I am somewhat obsessive compulsive and the thought of sitting in the water is just... :mad: I did shower every day with it and put on the cream all over my body because the salts dry me out. Now I just shower with it when I remember, but I keep using the cream and take it orally every day for the benefits it has.
I'm not assuring that this is also your case, 'cause I don't know you and don't know what you look like, but maybe you have the same problem as me and just don't know, considering that there are no symptoms!!

If after trying this, you see no results, there's still one thing you can try!!
A friend of mine (22 yrs) who had purple / blue / red-looking raccoon eyes with big visible veins got rid of them by taking 2 TABLEspoons of Black Strap Molasses daily. 1 First thing in the morning and 1 at night. She had read about it on earthclinic I think, but I'm not sure. Apparently Black Strap Molasses has a lot of good things in it which are ready to be absorbed by the body and don't need to be converted first as most vitamins do. Expect results after 3 weeks of taking it religiously. There is however a "negative" side to this. 1 Tablespoon of BSM contains around 50-60 calories and has a lot of sugar in it.
My friend hasn't stopped taking it for she is afraid if she stops, the raccoon eyes might return. So I can not say whether they do or don't come back if you stop taking it.


Hope it helps you!!

Xoxoxoxoxo

Well I am all for cheap and healthy alternatives! :) So I will try it. I think magnesium may be the reason epson salts work. So I'll check out the ingredients. Maybe I will try both, I am not concerned about calories it's not a double cheeseburger!:D Although they are definitely veins it certainly doesn't hurt to try! Thanks and I will keep you posted on the results.

Okay an update from me, my name is Carlos , 32 and I live in Bristol, UK.

As mentioned before I've been talking to several doctors including DR Brooke Seckel, Boston.USA
DR Nick Lowe in London and also sclerotherapist in London called Phillip coleridge smith.

I have very thin skin with red purple showing through, also reticular veins are apparent, really adding to the darkness, and I have tear trough deformity.Basically I have a triple hitter! Very hard to treat. Here's what I'm up to...

I went to Boston in 2007 and saw Dr Seckel and he was very helpful (yes a long way to travel, but I want to solve the tired look) and had many suggestions, just wished I lived there and I wouldn't hesitate to use his services.

He suggested possible arcus marginalis release and fat transfer to solve the hollow/ shadow look and also IPL etc. Its just very difficult and expensive to travel there every 6 weeks or so to have the laser treatments.

I also went to see dr smith in london but regarding sclerotherapy for the veins under the eyes (dark blue veins not the red spider veins). He said he could remove the veins coming in from the temples and under the eye, but wasn't so sure about the inner corner of the eye, my main problem!), although he was willing to try. I haven't done it yet just because I'm scared of thrombosis of the cavernous sinus. But the option is there.

At the moment I am having expensive treatments with DR Lowe in London (although IO would have rather seen DR seckel as he specializes in Dark circles). So far I have had one cynosure treatment under one eye as a test and I'm going again next week.

The first treatment wasn't that painful and I had bruising for 3 weeks. It seemed to help a little with the spider veins and I think a slight improvement on collagen. The idea being if the collagen is stimulated enough it will thicken the skin and hide all dark colours and veins. I will keep you posted on what happens next.

One day I will sort this hopefully sooner than later as I just want to live my life and enjoy it.

Peace to everyone

I have the same problems. Blue veins, broken capillaries, dark circles... after reading tons and tons of info I've come to the conclusion that IPL, intense pulsed light is the way to go, at least for me.

I would recommend that all of you Google search "IPL dark circles" and go from there. Dr. Seckel highly recommends IPL and it is definitely safer than laser procedures. Lasers can be pretty dangerous. I've read some HORROR stories.

IPL baby! I get my IPL started in a couple of days. I'll post results later. Chau!

Hi everyone -

I've had the same affliction - hideous veins under one eye.

I'd never thought anyone else had this curse.

WELL, about a month ago I got fed up and did research. Tomorrow I have a treatment at the Berman Skin Institute.

I hope so much that the coolglide laser will help. Go to the website, the pictures are AMAZING!

I have a lot of hope that this is the way. They have all the cutting edge equipment.

I'll let you know guys and if it works, I'll give you ALLLLL the details!

Perhaps there is a cure for us after all!

Can you even imagine being free of this??

I HOPE I HOPE!

Hi,

Any news regarding your appointment with Mr. Berman?
Did the CoolGlide Excel Laser help to remove your vein under your eye?

Please please please let me know because I have ugly veins under both eyes
And I would do everything to get rid of it!

Thank you :-)

Hi everyone!

It worked. It totally totally worked!

A ten second treatment and now I have the face I was always meant to have!

Completely healed!

Go to the Berman Skin Institute website, select treatments and look at the BEFORE and AFTERS for the CoolGlide Laser.

I'm telling you - DO THIS! This is the cure.

It's costly, but worth every penny because now I feel so pretty and this has changed my whole life.

The treatment cost $850. Going out to CA cost $227. The hotel and car cost $200.

Having my face back? PRICELESS.

It hurts a little but it's totally bearable. Seriously guys, check into this, this is the answer to all our problems!

If you have any questions, let me know. Take the initiative into your own hands and you can just END this problem. I am SOOOO happy I can't even tell you!

Oops - Click on Before and After on the site and then select CoolGlide to see the amazingness!

Hello!

Thank you so much for your reply. I´m so so so happy that it worked for you and I can´t wait to set an appointment with the Berman Skin institute.

I´m from Germany (Frankfurt) but I would travel to every place in the world just to get rid of these ugly veins under my eyes...

Where´re you from and in which hotel in CA did you stay? Also, at which of the Berman Skin Institute have you been (Palo Alto, San Francisco or Walnut Creek) and did you deal with Mr. Berman in person?

Would be great if you could let me know. I can´t wait to meet Mr. Berman and really hope that this will also work for me...

Hi! I know, I want to spread the gospel because it's so amazing.

They've had people come from France to do this. I took digital pictures beforehand and emailed them to assess whether they thought they could help me.

Dr. Berman treated me himself. He runs the whole thing. If you look on the FAQ (frequently asked questions), you'll see they have a section on out-of-town visitors. They even mention a travel subsidy to help alleviate the cost of travel - you should def. look into that considering where you're coming from.

They often schedule the appointment that very same day (obviously they would do that for you) and if it works you're instantly cured!

I went to Palo Alto, but I think they do it at every facility. They have a list of hotels under the Out of Town here: Berman Skin Institute - Out-of-Town Patients (http://www.bermanmd.com/info-center/outoftownpatients.asp)

I stayed at the Motel 8 cause it's the cheapest - but it's nothing special.

I called them up and asked them a million questions. They're very nice.

You can send your questions from the email addresses listed on this page:
Berman Skin Institute - Contact Information (http://www.bermanmd.com/contact/)

If you have more questions, let me know. I want to help other people get cured!

Keep us updated!

PS - I'm from Chicago, so it wasn't as big of an ordeal as it would be for you. But like you, I would have paid almost any price to be rid of this problem!

Hello again!

Just had another look at the Before & After pictures at the Berman web site and WOW... it is absolutely just so amazing! I kept searching for sooo long and I still almost can´t believe that there is really a cure for this...

I have not yet looked at the FAQ so I was actually not aware that they have a section on out-of-town visitors. That´s very very helpful so thank you very much for this information.
Also, it is good to know that they are very nice even if you ask a million questions :-)

I will now start as a first step to take some digital pictures which I will forward on to them and if they think that they can help me I will definitely go for it. Since I´m from Germany it may will take some time but of course, I will definitely keep you all updated on the result...

Thank you so so much once again for all of your time and help on this. That´s just so lovely :-)))

It is amazing! I can't stop sneaking looks at my brand new face!

It's because of their advance laser technology. I'm not sure if other places have this, so you may want to Google that exact laser name - I think it's called CoolGlide Excel - to see if there are any other places (perhaps in Germany?) that have it. My research turned up nothing. I don't think many places have the capability to do face veins. I think it's a pretty new form of technology.

That's what started me on this. My mom told me once that the doctor saud there was nothing that could be done because it was too close to my eye. Than I realized that that was 20 whole years ago and they might have come up with something new in the meantime. Turns out they did! Best of luck!

Hi!

Actually I already did Google on the exact laser name and indeed found only one institute in Germany (I guess Europe is a bit behind on this new type of laser) who are using the CoolGlide laser, however on their web site they do not say that they do face veins. I will give them a call and try to find out but even if they are familiar with using the CoolGlide laser for other areas of the body (e.g. legs) it does not mean that they have the experience to remove blue veins around the eyes. So at the end, I guess there is no way around for me to fly to California to see Mr. Berman. But again, if I look at the amazing before & after pictures I think only Mr. Berman should be the one who should treat me. I have big trust in him and I think the chances of getting rid of these ugly blue veins are not too bad :-)

Let´s hope for the best... I´ll definitely keep you updated!

:-)))

Totally - FYI, my picture is the 6th one!

That's why I chose to fly all the way out to California. I saw those pics and did the research and this seemed to be the only thing that exactly matched what I was looking for.

I very much thought that the 6th picture must be you and when I saw it I was even more convinced to have the treatment done by Dr. Berman only. I´m so amazed by the result and can imagine how happy you must feel now after the vein is not there anymore. I will send some pictures to the Berman institute within the next days. Let´s hope that they will
Come back with some positive answers... :-)

That's why I chose to fly all the way out to California. I saw those pics and did the research and this seemed to be the only thing that exactly matched what I was looking for.

OMG, I'm sooo happy for you! I have the same problem for 10 years now and I'm just so happy to hear that there's something out there that works so well. Thank you for finding that site. The only problem now is setting aside the money for it =T I don't care, as long as it works.

You know, on second thought this guy has pretty bad reviews.

From my experience, I was treated with nothing but the most exemplary and professional care. I urge you to take those reviews with a grain of salt, if my experience can change your opinion. That is precisley why I'm making such an effort to inform people about the treatment! This has totally flipped my whole life around! They were SO helpful. They gave me the doctor's direct line. He treated me personally, was so professional...

I actually mentioned that I had read the reviews and he said he couldn't believe what was being written. He felt it might be competitors badmouthing him. I recommend them 150%!

Ho do we know that you are not working on behalf of dr berman. I am considering this treatment. But have heard little about it apart from this website. No offence intened just need to know. Thanks

Hey,

I'm glad you asked, I wanted to give an update. So if you look at my pic, which you can find with the directions I wrote above, there was some residual blue that's the cord that's left over after they zap it and the blood stops flowing through it (many people have it instantly go away, so says the website)

Dr. Berman said it would fade over time as the body absorbed it. Well, I was getting a little worried, because it went like this: First day=pretty much gone. 2nd-1 week=It almost seemed to be coming back!

I was thinking= OMG it failed! Why me! And I was upset about having to come to the board and say it didn't work. I knew I'd have to warn the girl from Germany so that she didn't spend all her money to come, it this thing wasn't going to pan out after all. Imagine spending $850 to have it look pretty much like it does after you apply cover up= faded, but still flippin there).

I was getting really depressed, but I did some internet research on the cord absorbing and it said that sometimes it will get darker as it comes to the surface and flakes off as skin (gross, I know)... So I decided to have faith because what else could I do (and I'm not talking religious faith, I'm not religious, just hope really). I was thiking: GOD, I would be the only one that this wouldn't work for, why won't this thing DIE already?

Well, about 4 days ago (cause I inspect every morning) I notiecd that it had seemed to have made progress in the middle and sure enough over the last several days I can SEE it going away for good. I can see a tan pigment where the iron is getting dispersed into the skin as the vein cord breaks down and goes away. It's on it's way out, but I know it will take a couple more weeks to fully go away. It's undeniably fading and I'm ecstatic. I feel like a butterfly coming out of the cacoon.

So, I had to come back and update you all any way that even if it doesn't 100% respond right away, don't despair. It's still working!

On your question, CFOX. Look, we're on the internet, so there's only so much I can do to show I'm being real. But, 1) I told you how to find my picture, which means I gave up anonymity to spread the word to my fellow sufferers that a cure exists. 2) I don't have to tell you how it feels to be us. I've lived with the same awful problem my whole life and now I'm about to be totally okay soon for the first time. I came here to tell you that, MIRACULOUSLY, there is an answer for us and we can live life as confident human beings FINALLY.

You can choose to not believe me, but you'd be losing out. I'[m so glad I just did it because now I'm on the way to being completely cured and I just want to let others know!

Hey cleanbreak

Thanks for the quick reply. I have actually booked to see him in April and naturally just worried. Its going to cost me £2000 for the whole trip so just wanted to be sure. Ive been let down so many times before. And on speaking to other experts they have told me that other lasers are more up to date and better at the job. Is it definitely the coolglide excel?

I just want to be 100% on this. Ending up looking worse would be a disaster!

Maybe I'm being stupid but where can I see your pictures, can't seem to find them.Thanks again

I totally understand. I just went through it myself. I definitely wanted to get that information to you guys about my ongoing healing process.

Like I said, we're all in the same boat, so I know how you feel.

Go to Berman Skin Institute-->Before & After--> Select CoolGlide Laser from the drop down menu-->Mine is pic #6.

Like I said, I think most people have it go away instantly - like that lady in pic 4 or 5 that had ones faaaar more prominent than mine. But, mine is particularly evil I spose and is making a final stand - like some hideous monster that has to thrash around and wail before dying. But it is on the way out and I can tell now that it's going to be gone completely in a few months.

Here's my advice, just in case: Mine didn't go away 100% right away, like I said. Dr. Berman said that the question for huim was whether we'd gotten the blood to stop going through it, which meant that is had been successfully damaged and only the remaining cord had to be reabsorbed by the body.

So, he told me to come back in a few hours (since I had a bunch of time before my flight) to let the skin cool off and he'd look again and see if he felt I needed more treatment. He said overtreating it can be bad for the skin. So, I came back and he felt he could zap it again just to make sure.

So, I'd book my flight if I were you so that you have a little time to hang around that day, just in case.

That's part of what made me like Dr. Berman so much, because he's a really bust guy and it was nice of him to make time to look at me again that day. He also said he'd touch it up for free in a month if it looked like it hadn't worked. But, I'm not going to go back because it got taken care of.

I'm very grateful to Dr. Berman because as you'll see from my pic, mine came veeeeryy close to the eye and I was so worried that it was too close to treat safely with the laser (my parents had been told that it could never be fixed because of this) but he was able to do it!

If you are really worried, I suggest sending some digital photos to them (the address is on the site), then they will tell you if they think it looks treatable. This is exactly what I did because I was so woorried about the location of the vein and I was also worried about spending that much money (though less than you!). So do that if it will ease your mind, I certainly would if I had to mount an international flight to seek treatment.

Best of luck, I'm very confident that this will solve your problem and free you!

And yes, it is definitely the CoolGlide Excel laser. I was really worried because my skin scars extremely easily, but it sends light waves only to the vein and not the surrounding skin. I had no scarring or anything like that. It does hurt a little, but totally bearable. If you're like me, you're like DIE VEIN, BURN IN HELL! :P

Thanks again, well I'm going to be there for a few days after the treatment,might as well see san fran whilst I'm there,coming from the uk so it makes sense. Just another question, I have prominent veins near the corner under the eye nearer the nose does he treat those too?

So you think its definitely fading. I'm on holiday in July and would like it to be gone by then. Im a man and have to wear cover, very embarrassing. But it works so hey!

Fingers crossed it will work x

Yeah for sure. It's rapidly going away. It's as if it's collapsing into my body. It started in the middle and now the ends are just going away. Every morning it's noticeably better. I had one on the other side too and that went away instantly.

Yeah, I think they can pretty much do it anywhere on the face, and he was able to do mine even though it came riiihghht near my eye, like within a quarter inch.

I can't say 100%, but send a pic if you want to make sure. I was very nervous when I sent mine because I'd already booked flights and spent money that couldn't be refunded but the nurse was like, "I wouldn't be nervous, it looks very treatable" and then Dr. Berman confirmed in an email.

I looked into it (bot not too extensively) and from my research I concluded that Dr. Berman is one of the only people to do face veins like ours.

Let us know what happens. Believe me, I spent years (whole life) with this unhappiness so I can't believe the technology exists to just fix it. That's why I say, just do it and we can all start living our lives as the people we were meant to be!

I think it'll be good later in life because we understand how it is to feel like a monster and we also get the joy of a fresh new life. That's why I want so much to spread the word because it doesn't have to be this way for us any longer.

I feel more assured now.really appreciate your help. I will keep everyone posted. Take care for now x

I feel more assured now.really appreciate your help. I will keep everyone posted. take care for now x

How did the treatment go? Please let us know... would you recommend it? Thanks

Hi everyone,

Thanks for inquiring Max111.

I've been meaning to give an update. When I last posted, I said the residual vein was breaking up and that it still was fading.

I'm ecstatic to report that I am completely healed now!

I haven't worn cover up in two weeks, and will not need to again.

I go out showing my face proudly, no more dangling a lock of hair to hide the hideous vein.

I have a completely new face and I have a fresh lease on life. Every time I look in the mirror, I laugh giddily.

Everyone around me has noticed my new confidence and commented on it (although no one really knows why, even though they've looked at my face for years!)

I'm much more confident with man and I've been totally enjoying the dating game more.

I actually want to take care of myself and care about keeping my body healthy. Before, I only loathed myself and only now do I realize how down that got me. Hey, we all learn to live with it.

So, in answer to your questionL YES!

I totally recommend it. Don't wait another day. I'm SO glad I just went and did it because now I have that much longer to enjoy life with the face I was always meant to have. This is 100% the answer to our problems. I repeat: Go for it and do not wait!!

Thank you CLEANBREAK but my question was directed to cjfox who followed your advice.

If you can take a picture of yourself now and post it to see how you actually look now, that would be really helpful! Thanks very much.

And cjfox please give us an update! Thanks

Hey!

Yeah, how did it go CJFox, was it successful or haven't you flown out there yet?

I tried schlerotherapy under one eye last week. I couldn't tell if it had worked at first because was quite swollen. However, the swelling and bruising has now totally gone but the veins have not :(

I thought I would at least see some difference but nada so far. I don't know whether to go back or not for a second session. I've emailed him and am waiting to see what he says.

Will keep you posted.

Hi

Okay update...

The veins I had treated have gone. Its been over a week now and still looks good. The veins I had treated were down from the temple toward under neath the eye, but the outside area of the eye. I did want to treat some veins right under the eye on the inside corners near the nose but the coolglide won't get in there.

I hope they develop a smaller head to do this in the future.

However all the results you see on before and after on DR Beramans site are 100% accurate. After a 2 min procedure the vein was gone, and the slight pain was worth it, just clench your teeth!

Dr Berman is a very nice man indeed.

My dark circle haven't gone because I have other problems near the inside of the under eye area such as thin skin, red/blue colour and som smaller blue veins. But for the large veins I discussed earlier this treatment does work.

Now its just a case of getting the rest done. Good luck. I recommend 100%!

I'm so happy for you Cjfox!

Wow, that's great CJFox! I'm really pleased for you! So what does the treatment actually involve? It's a laser yes, not an injection? I can't work out what the difference is because I've had two lots of laser treatment and neither of them worked?

I'm going back for a second session of schlerotherapy so will see what happens then...

I seriously hope it works because I can't stand these veins for much longer.

Last month I went to a cosmetic surgeon to see if anything could be done for a large blue vein under my eye. I was told that the procedure I need does not fall under their expertise and I was referred to two different doctors. One was Tina Alster (in DC) whose office specializes in advanced laser surgical and cosmetic techniques. I told them my problem and they said it is very difficult to address but they could probably do something. The catch was that the consultation would cost $500... pretty steep for someone to just look at you and examine whether they can help you or not.

The other doctor I was referred was Dr. David Greene in Bethesda, MD. His office specializes in the treatments of vein and I had a long consultation with him a couple of days ago (cost was $150). And he told me the following:

-The MOST current effective treatment of blue veins around the facial area is SCLEROTHERAPY. I told him what about the cool glide excel and he said what lasers do is very temporary. Meaning with blue veins, they hide the problem but do not resolve it. I told him I've seen pictures of it on a website of patients cured and he said basically (and I'm paraphrasing here), "trust me, it is a temporary fix. What they do is take a picture right after the procedure and weeks later when the vein returns, they say your situation is rare and another treatment needs to performed. You spend more money but a few weeks later you end up in the same situation again."

'KeepTrying', don't feel discouraged. Dr. Greene told me after the procedure you swell up pretty bad for a week or so and then it'll take a few weeks for the vein to die away. It'll first turn from bluish to greenish and then slowly fade away. He said for most, typically only one treatment is needed and results last about 10 years.

He told me that Scleortheraphy would solve my problem and I have a big thick blue vein circling one of my eyes. The procedure essentially kills the vein... the procedure itself only takes a few minutes but one will have to wait several weeks to see full results as the vein slowly dies. His site if anyone is interested is Botox Bethesda Maryland | Facial | Cosmetic Skin Care | Wrinkles | Laser Hair Removal | MD (http://www.laserderm.net).

I'm scheduled for the procedure in two weeks. I will provide update afterwards.

Hi fx33, very interesting news. Good luck for the procedure in two weeks and
Yes please advise us of the result.

To all others who have been treated with the CoolGlide Excel Laser, did the vein really come back after a few weeks?

Hello everyone. I have the same problem. I have 2 big veins under both of my eyes. I went to a clinic at London to do a CoolGlide Excel Laser this morning. The veins was gone directly after the laser. I was soooo happy about the result. However, roughly after 1 hour, the vein under the left eye came back :confused::confused: I am so upset now. I decide to wait for a few weeks. If it is still there, maybe I will go for one more time.:mad:

May I ask the procedure of CoolGlide Excel Laser you guys did in the States? What my Dr did for me is apply on the cool gel first , and put on the eye mask, then begun to do the laser. It took about 5 mins. Is this the right process?

Thank you !!

Hi gigiufy,

Don't depsair. THe same thing happened to me. If you're like me, the cord is still thee but will die and dissapate. Mione is completely gone. It took about three weeks to fade and it looked even worse at first! But it is totally gone. I'm really paranoid that it will come back after what that other person said a few posts back, but so far, so good.

After I frst got it done, I could literally feel that cord still there, but now all racea re gone. It's true that veins naturally want to regrow, but I think the beast is dead. Good luck and be patient!

~Cleanbreak

Hello cleanbreak,

Thank you for your answer. I am so happy for you. I hope I will be like you. Finger crossed :p

Hi fx33, have you already had the treatment done using Scleortheraphy by Dr. David Greene and if yes, how did it go?

Charlize, I actually had it done today. The procedure from start to finish took about 15 min. The injection itself took about a minute.

Going in and obviously still my biggest concerns were blindness and stroke. A lot of doctors out there don't do this procedure because they fear that if the substance used to inject the vein reaches the veins near the eye it can paralyze them and in turn cause blindness. Dr. Green confidently said that the ocular veins that drain from the temple are not connected to any veins that feed the eyes. He said if there was a 1 in a million chance someone could lose their vision he would not perform this procedure and he has been doing this for over 10 years. Nevertheless one can't help but worry what the side effects may be. I'll let you all know what happens, assuming I don't drop dead from a stroke or something :) By the way, none of talk of stroke and blindness has actually occurred but rather just theorized. But one never knows. The bottom line is though if you are not going to trust a specialist then who are you going to trust?

Dr. Green apparently lectures around the country on this procedure and he said a lot of doctors don't do it because they don't have the training. He also said he is one of two doctors who does this. Below are some links referencing what he has to say. The oldest lecture I found is from 2001. So I know he has been doing this since at least then.

Reconsider sclerotherapy to treat facial veins.(Disease/Disorder overview) | Article from Skin & Allergy News | HighBeam Research (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-149266203.html)

Reconsider sclerotherapy to treat facial veins. (01-OCT-05) Skin & Allergy News (http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-16350585_ITM)

Medical Spa Network :: Sclerotherapy Effective In Removing Facial Veins (http://www.medicalspanetwork.com/Article.aspx?Id=10)

During my procedure, he took before pictures and had an assistant help him. He also had some other doctor present to watch how the procedure is done.

I felt a little nauseous and light headed when the procedure was over. I'm not sure if it was because of my own thinking or from the actual injection. It lasted about a couple of minutes but I was shortly able to walk out and drive home. The staff and especially dr. green were very nice, encouraging, and polite. Dr. Green talked with we through the entire process, answered all my questions, and they brought me water and offered me some food when I felt light headed.

So now, it's been about 5 hours since the injection. The injection area right now is very pronounced meaning it is swollen... so swollen that not much of the vein is present. No bruising yet but Dr. Green said tomorrow morning I will be the worst because of the lying flat down while sleeping. Not a lot of discomfort so far yet. I'll keep everyone updated. I'm supposed to have a follow-up with Dr. Green once a month for three months. He does not charge for the follow-up. The procedure was $750. Next month I will find out if I need another injection but he believes it is unlikely. Most people only need one.

One last thing... I know there are laser's out there that remove veins. Keep in mind that the procedure you select depends on what type of vein you have. Mine is a thick blue one and apparently a laser would put me at risk for burning because a really high intensity is needed to eliminate blue veins and the skin near the eye is thin and obviously more prone to burning.

Sorry this was so long but hope this was helpful. I know the pain of dealing with these veins and hopefully this works for me as it has apparently for others. Let me know if you would like to know anything else.

Oh My Lord! Its so comforting to know that I'm not alone in this and someone else feels exactly the same. :) Im 15 and have these gross blue and purple veins all around my eyes to.

Both of these procedures sound pretty good but I'm horribly afraid of needles :( For the laser one and the needle one do they heal quick enough that I would be able to go out in public, like to school soon after? I was thinking I could go get it done on summer break or something but that's only 2 months.

And do the treatments have to be continual? I live in Canada and I don't think I could stay in another country for 3 months :p

Im so happy there's something I can do about it instead of sitting around feeling like a freak. Please keep us updated on whether the veins come back at all.

Thanks so much!! :)

Hey fx33, thank you so much for all the information and great to hear that you actually had the treatment already done by Dr. Green. I´m from Germany and so far I have not found any doctor in Germany who would be willing to treat veins under the eyes because they either worry too much or just do not have the experience. I also do have a thick blue vein under my right eye so maybe treatment using sclerotherapy would be also right for me...

How do you feel today? Is the injection area still swollen and if not is there already a
Possibility to see if the vein is really gone?

Yes, please keep me updated on the progress of this - I have these ugly veins
Since I was a little girl and I want to get rid of it NOW! If Dr. Green or
Dr. Berman is the answer to this I would fly all the way from Germany to the US to have the treatment done.

Thanks again for all the detailed information which is indeed very very helpful.

Great thread. For us few people out there that suffer with this problem, it's reassuring to read that we are not alone, and are looking for solutions. I live in Newfoundland, and have been reading up on this situation for a couple years now, I am 22. From information I have gathered, the intense pulsed light and YAG lasers are the way to go. UNLESS you are willing to have surgery performed. I am not one of those people, surgery below the eye is a terrifying thought. The aforementioned procedures have enough possible side effects, without having to make incisions.

There is no sure way to know which is the best route. I would say I've been reading up about this as long as anyone has, and it seems there has been an exponential explosion of solutions posted on the internet in the past few months. As good as this is, internet info is not extremely reliable and cosmetologists are out to make money. They are facts. I don't think there is 100% truth to anything anyone tells you. It's up to us to decipher the truth from the bull, and make an educated decision on the route to take with regards to procedure, doctor, price range, etc.

Regardless, this problem is not the end of the world. IT SUCKS. I know if I could get rid of the problem, it would probably make everyday 100 times easier to get through, but I am very self conscious physically, no matter what other people tell me. Is it worth the risks? For me, yes. I'm fed up with it, thinking about those veins when you look people in they eyes is no way to go about a day.

Anyway, enough of my rambling, there has recently been a aesthetics clinic opened up in my city, the only one open in Atlantic Canada that treats blue veins under the eyes. I would say I have 2 very prominent veins under each eye. I have a consultation next Friday. They use a YAG 1064 laser to treat it, and on the site they say they treat blue veins under the eyes. Best case scenario, I pay 300 bucks and it totally goes away. Anything contrary will be rough for my situation as I am a student. I'll keep you updated, PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL. KEEP STRONG, BY THE END OF THIS THREAD ALL WHO HAVE POSTED SHOULD HAVE THIS PROBLEM REMEDIED, THIS IS OUR GOAL!

CleanBreak... Reading your thread has given me the motivation to get in contact with Dr.Berman. I have had extremely prominent veins under my eyes my whole life, as time has gone on they have got worse now concealer and foundation no longer covers them, Im sick of being asked if I have black eyes, Being 21 I should have confidence and should not want to hide away. My only concern is living in the UK and having to travel so far for this treatment.I am at the point where I am willing to try anything, CleanBreak if you see this I would appreciate any info you have on travelling hotels etc and the results you have now! As I'm 99 % certain I will be seeing D Berman soon. Thanks LittleLaydee xx

So... one week since my sclerotherapy with Dr. Green. Day 2 I had some slight swelling but nothing major or really noticeable. Day 3, some discoloration at bottom portion of vein in the morning but gone by night and hasn't come back since. Day 4 all swelling was gone. No bruising and no scars. As big and blue as the vein was, about 70% of it has faded in this week. I'm hoping by the time I go in for my follow up in three weeks it is all gone. Everyday the vein has visibly faded.

MinnieShutzie - to answer your question, typically only one treatment is necessary but I don't know how you can do the follow-ups with the dr. each month. The follow-ups determine if you need another treatment or not.

charlize242 - so far the treatment results have been amazing. I thought it would take weeks for the vein to go away, but after day 2 and each day after, the vein has become less visible.

I'll update again next week. Good luck to you all.

Hello everyone. I have the same problem. I have 2 big veins under both of my eyes. I went to a clinic at London to do a CoolGlide Excel Laser this morning. The veins was gone directly after the laser. I was soooo happy about the result. However, roughly after 1 hour, the vein under the left eye came back :confused::confused: I am so upset now. I decide to wait for a few weeks. If it is still there, maybe I will go for one more time.:mad:

May I ask the procedure of CoolGlide Excel Laser you guys did in the States? What my Dr did for me is apply on the cool gel first , and put on the eye mask, then begun to do the laser. It took about 5 mins. Is this the right process?

Thank you !!

Hey Gigixufy
Thanks for the post. I hope it continues to disappear :)

I live in London and I'm thinking of getting the CoolGlide Excel Laser.
Could you please tell me where you got it down, how much it cost and how many sessions did they say u needed?

Thank you

Could Cleanbreak and CJFox weigh in on their current situation with the CoolGlide results now that a little more time has passed?

I'm really worried about what this Dr. Green said about it being temporary. And I'm starting to seriously doubt the efficacy of Berman's treatment.

I've been reading this thread for a few months and this is my first post. I've had very noticeable blue veins under my eyes for several years now, and I may be older than most of the posters here (I'm 54). They definitely look worse than years ago, and I think they'e gotten worse due to the skin under my eyes being very pale and thin, stress, being on the computer, lack of sleep. I'd do anything to get rid of the veins - two are very large and raised above the skin. I'm in sales, and I have to wear my eyeglasses when meeting with clients as a cosmetic aid to cover the veins. I don't feel confident when speaking with people. I always feel like they are looking at the veins and I wear 3 concealers that don't work. People say I'm an attractive woman despite the veins, but I don't feel good about the way I look.

I read about Dr. Green, Dr. Berman and I've seen a number of plastic surgeons and dermatologists in NYC. I also recently saw an ocular plastic surgeon. In my case, sclerotherapy could be a big problem because I have a tendency to bruise very easily, and I have a blood clotting problem related to lupus. The doctors said I had 3 choices: Laser, which they feel is safe but may not remove the large veins. Doing a surgical procedure where the doctor cuts the veins out under the skin. That's a safe procedure but could leave scarring. Finally, there's a procedure where they leave the veins, but inject Restylene (don't know if that's the right spelling) to fill in the hollow areas of thin skin around the veins. This would fill out the skin and make the veins less noticeable. It would last about a year, and then you go back and have it done. Eventually, the skin gets filled out so the veins don't show. Of all these options, I'm still tending toward laser which seems the safest.

There's another doctor in Maryland, Dr. Robert A. Weiss, of the Maryland Laser, Skin and Vein Institute. I don't remember his website, but I'll have to Google it. I think Dr. Weiss also offers a number of procedures to treat these types of veins and he has excellent credentials. So there are doctors out there, it's a matter of which doctor has the best answer. Also, which procedure would work for me. The large raised blue veins are under my right eye but the veins under my left eye are flat against the skin. I hope laser is still an options for me. Does the Cool Glide laser work on raised blue veins?

I'm sorry we all have to live with this problem, but I guess it's good to know I'm not the only person who has these veins. I only want to do something if I feel confident that it will work, and be safe. It's good to know some people have had a variety of treatments that worked. That's encouraging!

The site for Dr. Weiss is Maryland Laser Skin and Vein Institute, Drs. Weiss and Beasley (http://www.mdlsv.com). He uses a number of Cool Glide procedures and his office is in Maryland, which is easier for anyone on the East Coast.

Hi, I am so glad I have found this thread.. I have a really bad blue vein under one eye and thought I would have to put up with it forever.. As my name suggests I am a guy in Scotland UK . Could any of the previous posters who have had the CoolGlide Excel Laser procedure done in the UK please advise me where.

Many Thanks

Hi,

I've had prominent blue veins for as long as I can remember. Mine ran from my left temple down to under my left eye. I first thought I'd have to live with this awful problem but recently found that it could be treated.
I recently travelled to London to try the coolglide laser to treat these big blue veins that have caused me so much grief.

I was really nervous before the treatment but the doc was really reassuring. About 5-10 minutes later it was over and the pain wasn't bad at all. Slight pinching feeling.

The result: We decided to treat the vein under my eye first and see how that responded and later work on my temple vein. He told me I may need 2-3 sessions because of the size of the vein.
It's been a week since I had it done. Straight after I'd had it done it was as good as disappeared. Now I can see the thread of the blue vein though it is much less prominent than before. I was told it would take up to 4 weeks to see full result so I'm hopeful. Either way I will be going back for a second treatment in the hope of eliminating it for good.

I had my treatment at the private clinic on harley st in London (they have a websit). Treatments start from £250 and depend on the type and size of vein. My treatment cost was £250.

I was told that in some cases that the veins can return but I'm hopeful and praying that mine won't.

Hi,

I've had prominent blue veins for as long as I can remember. Mine ran from my left temple down to under my left eye. I first thought I'd have to live with this awful problem but recently found that it could be treated.
I recently travelled to London to try the coolglide laser to treat these big blue veins that have caused me so much grief.

I was really nervous before the treatment but the doc was really reassuring. About 5-10 mins later it was over and the pain wasn't bad at all. Slight pinching feeling.

The result: We decided to treat the vein under my eye first and see how that responded and later work on my temple vein. He told me I may need 2-3 sessions because of the size of the vein.
It's been a week since I had it done. Straight after I'd had it done it was as good as disappeared. Now I can see the thread of the blue vein though it is much less prominent than before. I was told it would take upto 4 weeks to see full result so I'm hopeful. Either way I will be going back for a second treatment in the hope of eliminating it for good.

I had my treatment at the private clinic on harley st in London (they have a websit). Treatments start from £250 and depend on the type and size of vein. My treatment cost was £250.

I was told that in some cases that the veins can return but I'm hopeful and praying that mine won't.

That's awsome, lets hope it does not come back.

What was the clinic's name?

Thanks

Thats awsome, lets hope it does not come back.

What was the clinic's name?

Thanks

Hi CDL111,

I really hope it disappears completely! I'm looking at it everyday to see if it's changing and hoping the blue thread I see is not the vein coming back.
It's affected my confidence for so many years that I was even willing to fly to the US after seeing the procedure done on a website in a clinic there!

I had it done at The Private Clinic, they have various clinics and you can have a consultation for free. I had one in manchester but was told the coolglide treatment was only offered in the London clinic. Desperate to sort this problem I went there and after a consultation got told it could be dealt with.

I'm going to be patient and give it a month like I was told and depending on the result I'm going to go for a second in July and will let you know how it goes.

I've never realised just how many people had this similar problem, I hope the treatments everyone tries is successful and we can finally be free of these nasty veins!:)

Hi.
I have had green veins under my eyes since around 2 years. Started small and only 1 appeared, then more appeared. The most worrying one is getting longer.

I'm definitely going to try the suppliment remedies to see if they help.

Can cleanBreak and other members who had treatment report on their situation now please?
I'm thinking the scelotherapy or the coolglide laser are the best options.
One of the members mentioned they were treated by the private clinic on harley street, London, UK.
I actually called them few days ago and the man I spoke to(very professional) said he really needs to see the veins to comment on treatment. He also said be very careful about who you get it treated by because it's under the eyes which is risky.
I live in West Midlands, UK so I think harley street is the best and most reputed to visit.
I shall be arranging a consultation very soon(free).

Thanks to all the members who have posted their comments. Hopefully we shall be successful in our war against these horrible facial veins!

Take care.

Hi Cleanbreak, How are you? Could you tell us if the vein is still completely gone? Could you still recommend treatment by the Berman skin institute with the GoolGlide Exel Laser?
I´m wondering if you still happy about the result so thank you for letting us have an update...
:o

Hi fx33, Could you also give us an update on your treatment? Is the vein still visible or has it disappeared completely by now? I have actually found a doctor in Germany who is willing to treat (unfortunately not during the summer time) the veins under my eyes using sclerotherapy but I´m not sure if I should go for it since he is not very experienced in treating eye veins. Also, I´m still not sure if I should get treatment with the Cool Glide Exel Laser or sclerotherapy so it would be very helpful if you could update us on your treatment with Dr. Green. Thanks so much!

Hi abr_bly, could you also give an update on your treatment with the CoolGlide Excel Laser? Do you have to go for another treatment or has the vein completely disappeared in the meantime? Thank you so much for letting me know. I really want to get rid of these ugly veins under my eyes as fast as possible!

Hi abr_bly, could you also give an update on your treatment with the CoolGlide Excel Laser? Do you have to go for another treatment or has the vein completely disappeared in the meantime? Thank you so much for letting me know. I really want to get rid of these ugly veins under my eyes as fast as possible!

HI, I am new at this. Did you ever find out more info on CoolGlide Excel Laser?

PLease ler me know any info you find out.

Thank you, L.E. FL

Hi abr_bly, could you also give an update on your treatment with the CoolGlide Excel Laser? Do you have to go for another treatment or has the vein completely disappeared in the meantime? Thank you so much for letting me know. I really want to get rid of these ugly veins under my eyes as fast as possible!

Hi everyone,

It's been three weeks since my treatment with the coolglide and the vein is still there. Over the last week or so it looks the same as it did before the treatment, :confused:

Sometimes it looks less visible but on the whole it is still there. I've been asking my husband to give me a second opinion and though he says yeah it's there, he reminds me that the doc did say give it 6 weeks to see the result and that I may need 2-3 sessions. I guess I was hoping just the single treatment would have done the trick.

I can't tell if what I see is just the coagulated blood that my body is supposed to reabsorb or whether it is still a live vein? So many questions.

I have my second appointment booked for the 11th of July when I will fire all these questions to him and hopefully see if the second treatment does the trick. I'm not ready to lose hope yet!

He did say sometimes veins can come back, I just hope that is not the case. Plus I have a vein down my temple which was not treated and I'm not sure if that has affected the outcome of the one under my eye.

It would be good to hear from cleanbreak who stated seeing an improvement after 3 weeks of treatment and if the result is still good.

I will of course keep you guys posted, as I know just how it feels to want to find a solution. For some reasons.

Fingers crossed...

I can't tell you how comforting this site is. I'm an actress in London, mostly television, and both the dark circles under my eyes and the large blue veins have been THE biggest problems (and caused many a squabble with the make up artists) throughout my career. The cakeyness that ensues from all the darn cover up and powder has been the bane of my life since my teens. I can't think of anything better than being able to go into castings without the obligatory four layers of make up as I keep trying to hide the darn bags. Let's hope the CoolGlide guys get back to us soon as I'm THIS close to Cool Gliding it to Harley Street!

Incidentally, as a momentary fix, using the colour ORANGE, preferably a cream, over the blue areas actually counteracts the blueness. Seems odd as orange is a dark colour but it genuinely works. Try it! Thanks you lot x

I looked at Dr. Berman's website and tend to think he's a scam. Sort of like Dr. Tattoff when you Google "tattoo removal."

I've been to different dermatologists and it's amazing that some of these doctors really don't know how to work their lasers.

There's many different types of lasers and settings on the laser. It all depends on if the doctor knows how to set it just right. Many times the doctor has rented this new laser but really doesn't know how to use it.

I just want to warn you all to please check out these plastic surgeons and dermatologists out very carefully prior. Find out what their reputation in the community is and how skilled they are. There are a lot of botched procedures and many doctors just care about the $$, not about their patients.

I have been following this thread for awhile and thought it was time to contribute my two cents.

I am 22, black female. I have a noticeable vein under both eyes. Today, I went to get sclerotherapy due on both veins. Prior to the procedure, I went in for a consultation to enquire about the Coolglide laser. I was told that, because I have darker skin, the laser might not be effective. Bare in mind, I am fairly light-skinned and I am often mistake for hispanic (just to give a frame of reference of my skin color and if the laser will be ineffective for you as well).

It took about 15 minutes tops and it did burn. It has been about 2 hours since I have gotten it done and it doesn't burn as bad but there is still a noticeable discomfort, more like a throbbing. It is also swollen. I have yet to bruise but I'm sure its coming. I was told that the vein should disappear within 4-6 weeks. I was also informed that new veins come appear. Right now, I can not see the vein but that's because I'm so swollen.

The cost of the procedure was a merger $125. I live in AL, so I'm sure this procedure will be more expense elsewhere.

I will update my progress and periodically check this thread to answer any questions that might be asked.

Hi, I'm also plagued by these friggin blue veins under my eyes. I did try to remove them by laser 7 years ago (hurt like hell). For the first month they appeared to be gone... but they came back 100% to what they used to be. There are probably newer lasers today, but I doubt they'll work. They'll just grow back. I wish there was a treatment to make thin skin thicker somehow... the only thing that would work I think. Damnit.

Hi everyone,

I wanted to give an update. It's been since the end of Feb 2009 and the vein is still gone. Not a trace.

For those that are worried about the re-absorption of the cord, that took several weeks, perhaps near a month to go away. The vein had a sort of last stand where it seemed to get worse and darker, and then looked like a bruise going away. I saw it dispurse in bits.

I was really worried that it hadn't worked but it totally totally did. I am so happy. Truly a second chance at life and a brand new face.

That's why I'm taking the time to tell you to go to Dr. Berman of the Berman Skin Institute for the CoolGlide Excel Laser treatment.

It's hard to trust because this is the internet, but I was in the same position as you guys. The vein ruined my life for 27 years and now I'm free and happy and you can be too!

I urge you to do it and do it as soon as you can cause than you can start living the life you were meant to have!

Some other person said the veins would come back with this treatment, and I've been really nervous since then but a,most four months out the thing is still gone.

Sometimes horrible problems really can be solved easily (though not necessarily cheaply)

Let me know any questions and I'll answer them as best I can.

Has anyone used the Cynergy laser for removing blue veins ? Is it better or worse than the CoolGlide Excel ?

I used to have those, but my Doctor told me that it is because I was anemic (Don't eat enough foods with iron) and I don't have them as much anymore. That was my expierience, everybody's different, you might have a different case.

Hey guys and gals! So I've been reading this thread I'm 21 and have blue veins under my eyes I will be trying the coolglide laser for blue vains under my eyes with dr. berman at the berman skin institute he has tons of credentials and has people travel all over the world to have him do this very treatment. So I was very impressed and lucky for me I am in the area. It's kind of pricey $850 WOW! But I sure as hell hope this is worth it. I'm going to change my appt to this Friday, I'll let you guys know how it goes... wish me luck and any info and or results of the coolglide laser treatment is greatly appreciated I'm kind of nervous!

Hi everyone!

It worked. It totally totally worked!

A ten second treatment and now I have the face I was always meant to have!

Completely healed!

Go to the Berman Skin Institute website, select treatments and look at the BEFORE and AFTERS for the CoolGlide Laser.

I'm telling you - DO THIS! This is the cure.

It's costly, but worth every penny because now I feel so pretty and this has changed my whole life.

The treatment cost $850. Going out to CA cost $227. The hotel and car cost $200.

Having my face back? PRICELESS.

It hurts a little but it's totally bearable. Seriously guys, check into this, this is the answer to all our problems!

If you have any questions, let me know. Take the initiative into your own hands and you can just END this problem. I am SOOOO happy I can't even tell you!

Hi cleanbreak, I also have an upcoming appointment with Dr. Berman on the 21st of this month but want to move it to this Friday, I'm excited but really nervous at the same time. Was he kind of rushed during the consultation? He didn't really address all my needs but his assistant was really helpful, it was the end of the day so maybe that's why he was rushed. Anyway I don't know if there's inboxing on here but do you mind emailing me real fast and could I send you a pic of my eyes to see if he could fix them or what you think in comparism to yours since you've had the treatment and all? Thank you so much and I'm so happy for your good results:) here is my nonpersonal email [email protected] ttyl

Okay people I'm changing my appointment to today I am EXTREMELEY NERVOUS... any bad experiences with this please share I've never had anything done like this before but I will keep you all informed after my apointment TONIGHT! Yeah Friday couldn't work, I feel like I'm rushing into this...

Not much point in an update just a few days after the "procedure". Please make an update after 6 months when they grow back.

Hmm why all the negativity? I'm just updating everyone because this is info that hopefully someone out there will appreciate, maybe they could relate to it if not oh well that's just my two cents. I'm sorry it didn't work out for you that sucks. Your veins must have been really bad mine you could barely see, but if the lighting was right or I was crying they were very visible, and rather disgusting my boyfriend pointed them out to me how horrible LOL! But now so far I don't have to worry... they're pretty much gone yep I can't stop looking in the mirror, it's almost like majic:) At first though I was really disapointed, the video on Dr. BErmans site of the procedure does not depict at all what actually happens he didn't use protective eyewear and the veins do no vanish instantly! It takes some time, and your eyes will be red and puffy and the veins will be more visible then ever. How ever by the time I got to my car the redness had gone down, then by the time I got to my house an hour later I compared the before and after pictures and it looked like my veins were even more visible after so I was kind of disapointed then I checked later in the evening and things were getting better, by the time I went to sleep and woke up this morning the veins were gone. Seriously, Dr. Berman is the best, not the best listener lol but his staff is great they will answer all questions Dr. Berman is kind of rushed, but he knows his stuff and is very straight to the point and did an amazing job. I don't think he was aware of how amazing my results would be, cause he told me to come back in 3 weeks for a touch up at no additional cost, which was really nice but I don't think I will even need it. If they come back in 6 months I'll let you know! Dr. Berman is the best!

Hey Nova I just read your previous posts... I hope mine don't come back:( Did you try the cool gel laser? How bad were your veins? I hope you find something that works ttyl

Hi

Thanks you guys for your comments. I decided to go on the internet to see if there was a solution. I have the same problem. Veins, dark circles under eyes, makes you look a lot older (I believe). I customer came in where I worked the other day and asked if I was feeling all right. I said yes, why? And she said I had dark circles under my eyes. The funny thing is, I thought I looked a lot better that day. Oh well, it's awful... pam

Hi Ebbblondie88!

I'm so happy for you and I'm sorry I didn't get to your post before your apt. Dr. Berman is a miracle worker and I am so glad you got good results!

Six months out and mine is still gone and life is great. Congrats!

~Cleanbreak

Hey Nova I just read your previous posts.....I hope mine don't come back:( Did you try the cool gel laser? How bad were your veins? I hope you find something that works ttyl

Hello ebblondie88, Wonderful to hear that your treatment at the Berman Skin Institute went very well. Just wondering why there is no photo in the before and after pictures under gool glide laser on Dr. Bermans site? I´m seeing a photo of cleanbreak and cjfox but no photo of yourself?

Nevertheless, is the vein still gone and are you still happy with the result?

Charlize242

[QUOTE=abr_bly;1808796]Hi everyone,

It's been three weeks since my treatment with the coolglide and the vein is still there. Over the last week or so it looks the same as it did before the treatment, :confused:

I have my second appointment booked for the 11th of july when I will fire all these questions to him and hopefully see if the second treatment does the trick. I'm not ready to lose hope yet!!


Hey abr_bly, could you please give an update about your second appointment you had booked for the 11th of July? Is the vein still there or has the second treatment killed the vein completely now?

So...one week since my sclerotherapy with Dr. Green. Day 2 I had some slight swelling but nothing major or really noticeable. Day 3, some discoloration at bottom portion of vein in the morning but gone by night and hasn't come back since. Day 4 all swelling was gone. No bruising and no scars. As big and blue as the vein was, about 70% of it has faded in this week. I'm hoping by the time I go in for my follow up in three weeks it is all gone. Everyday the vein has visibly faded.

MinnieShutzie - to answer your question, typically only one treatment is necessary but I don't know how you can do the follow-ups with the dr. each month. The follow-ups determine if you need another treatment or not.

charlize242 - so far the treatment results have been amazing. I thought it would take weeks for the vein to go away, but after day 2 and each day after, the vein has become less visible.

I'll update again next week. Good luck to you all.


Hello fx33, could you also update us on the result of your sclerotherapy with Dr. Green? Has the vein disappeared completely by now or did it maybe come back?

Hello fx33, could you also update us on the result of your sclerotherapy with Dr. Green? Has the vein disappeared completely by now or did it maybe come back?

I have been following this conversation about blue temple/under-eye veins with much interest as I am plaqued with this condition. I called both Dr. Robert Weiss's office at MD Laser, Skin, and Vein Institute as well as Dr. Greene's office in Bethesda and made appts. For consultations. I have already been to 2 ocular plastic surgeons in the Harrisburg area who advised against treating the vein due to various risks including blindness ( if the laser is misdirected ) or developing a worse problem such as the lower lid becoming permanently swollen or another vein developing and looking even worse. I'm not giving up easily because this thing is so unsightly, and I tend to think that the doctors advised against it partly because they themselves don't treat such veins. I would love to hear more from fx33 and anyone else who has been treated and some time has passed.