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N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 08:24 AM
What happens when it is established for a fact that his birth certificate is fake?
Is it like Clinton being impeached but still President?
Does Hillary get another shot?
tomder55
Jul 2, 2008, 08:27 AM
Remember all those people who were questioning McCain's eligibility to run to President based on where he was born??
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 08:29 AM
Yeah the old democrat double standards.
There are allegedly at least 5 or 6 things that suggest it is a total fake.
spitvenom
Jul 2, 2008, 08:30 AM
You are really reaching on this one No. So here you go
Fight the Smears | The truth about Barack's birth certificate (http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert)
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 08:41 AM
They say
Embossed seal of the State of Hawaii absent from the purported "birth certificate" of Barack Obama
Type and font from computer NOT typewriter
Upper-left corner of frame shows uneven "paste" of vertical rectangle, unaligned with horizontal border
Seal of the state of Hawaii appears in a low-resolution, second-generation black and white image inconsistent with the rest of the document
June 6, 2007 appears at the bottom of the image, just right of center, as a backward facing stamp. Where does this come from, and what does it mean? And where is the official seal and signatures that one would expect on an official document of this kind?
excon
Jul 2, 2008, 08:48 AM
Hello:
I'm not surprised at the dirtiness of things... Some people just can't stomach a black man leading our country. If you think it's dirty NOW, just wait.
I just heard from a right wing friend that they KNOW Obama is Al Quaida.
My liberal side is surprised at the venom of the attacks... My conservative side KNOWS how much some people HATE blacks, and KNOWS that they'll do ANYTHING to stop it... And, I mean ANYTHING.
excon
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 08:50 AM
I don't care if a black man runs the country and seems to me that he was doing fairly well with some Republicans until about Feb when too many ?'s started arising.
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 08:52 AM
To generalize the question what would happen if it ever was a problem with any future candidate at this point?
excon
Jul 2, 2008, 08:54 AM
Hello N0:
I'm not saying YOU, N0. You're a sweetheart.. I'm talking about THOSE people who are making the accusations.
excon
spitvenom
Jul 2, 2008, 08:56 AM
If it was fake I would Imagine he would be impeached Then wouldn't the VP became president (not sure how it works)? I'm impressed No that you are already considering him President and thinking of ways to get rid of him.
smokedetector
Jul 2, 2008, 08:57 AM
Eh who cares if he's black... I'd choose Morgan Freeman over Barack any day... and be glad to do it. To be honest, I'm not gungho about either candidate, though I'd like to see who they pick for running mates. It will be more important in the McCain campaign, as he is getting up there in age. It's the kind of thing that makes me want to close my eyes for four years until I can vote in the NEXT election... lol.
Wondergirl
Jul 2, 2008, 08:59 AM
I'm sure candidates' birth certificates were checked out and approved long ago. If you think there's a problem with this, you don't know how government operates. I work for a government entity. ID gets checked both ways and backwards and all sorts of ways in between.
And "they say" is rather elusive, doncha think?
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 08:59 AM
Eh who cares if he's black...I'd choose Morgan Freeman over Barack any day...and be glad to do it. To be honest, I'm not gungho about either candidate, though I'd like to see who they pick for running mates.
Exactly and that is how many Republicans AND Democrats feel.
I heard Romney IS going to be McCain's running mate.
NeedKarma
Jul 2, 2008, 09:01 AM
Wow, this is pathetic.
Wondergirl
Jul 2, 2008, 09:01 AM
"I heard"? Who said?
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 09:11 AM
Who said?
Many websites and talk shows.
tomder55
Jul 2, 2008, 09:21 AM
I'm more interested in him releasing the records of his 8 years in the Ill. State Senate . As You recall ;Tim Russert tried to get his to fess up :
MR. RUSSERT: You talked about Senator Clinton having records released from the Clinton Library regarding her experience as first lady, and yet when you were asked about, “What about eight years in the state senate of Illinois,” you said, “I don't know.” Where, where are the—where are your records?
SEN. OBAMA: Tim, we did not keep those records. I...
MR. RUSSERT: Are they gone?
SEN. OBAMA: Well, let's be clear. In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois.* The, the stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule. I didn't have a schedule. I was a state senator. I wasn't intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library. I didn't have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues. So...
MR. RUSSERT: But your meetings with lobbyists and so forth, there's no record of that?
SEN. OBAMA: I did not have a scheduler, but, as I said, every document related to my interactions with government is available right now. And, as I said, news outlets have already looked at them.
MR. RUSSERT: Is your schedule available anywhere? Are—the records exist?
SEN. OBAMA: I—Tim, I kept my own schedule. I didn't have a scheduler
8 years and there are no records of who he met with /when and why. Is that credible ?
btw : his birth cert. has been obtained through independent media and is real.
excon
Jul 2, 2008, 09:26 AM
Hello again, tom:
And you think REAL will disuade the bigots and liars?? Not in a pigs eye?
excon
Choux
Jul 2, 2008, 09:29 AM
Go to *Fight the Smears dot com* to see a repudiation of this smear compaign and a copy of Obama's birth certificate.
What a bunch of pathetic crap!!
smokedetector
Jul 2, 2008, 09:41 AM
Can't we all just get along?
Haha... sorry I just couldn't resist.
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 09:43 AM
As I said in general what would happen at this stage if ANY (future) candidate did have a fake birth certificate would it go to the candidate they ran against? The one they chose as their running mate? Have to start the process over with other candidates? Nothing they would go on with the one with the fake certificate?
NeedKarma
Jul 2, 2008, 09:44 AM
If they had a fake certificate they wouldn't even get to the candidate stage.
tomder55
Jul 2, 2008, 09:44 AM
At this stage the parties would drop the candidate and select a replacement at the convention.
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 09:45 AM
Oh, thank you
Choux
Jul 2, 2008, 09:51 AM
smokedetector: LOL!
ScottGem
Jul 2, 2008, 10:26 AM
To generalize the question what would happen if it ever was a problem with any future candidate at this point?
At this point BOTH McCain and Obama are the apparent candidates. They are NOT officially candidates until a vote is taken at the respective conventions. Delegates to the convention could change their pledges right up to the last moment.
Once the convention votes in a candidate that person is the assigned party nominee. Even if that person was to withdraw, another candidate would have to run as in independent or as a write-in.
N0help4u
Jul 2, 2008, 10:29 AM
Okay thanks I never followed campaigns much other than Kerry and now so I don't know how a lot of it works.