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bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jun 19, 2008, 01:35 PM
This what my taxes go to?
FOXNews.com - Massachusetts High School Faces Pregnancy Boom - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369103,00.html)
progunr
Jun 19, 2008, 01:47 PM
Yep. And that is just for starters!
IF any of these single baby factories do get a job, chances are they won't earn enough to even have to pay any taxes.
Thanks to you and me and everyone else who works hard, not only will they not have to pay any taxes, the government will be sending them a check, a so called "tax credit" in the form of an "earned income credit" so not only do they keep all the money they made, but they get some of the money we made too.
The Socialistic redistribution of wealth.
That IS the PROBLEM in America today.
N0help4u
Jun 19, 2008, 01:50 PM
Yeah but remember anything goes
Its all about what you 'feel'
It doesn't matter the outcome as long as YOU got what you want
No matter
Who are we to tell others what to do
Don't worry be happy
firmbeliever
Jun 19, 2008, 01:53 PM
Did anyone read the other headlines on the link of the OP?
Australian twin toddlers being starved to death and they have many more children who are being looked after by the grandmother.
inthebox
Jun 19, 2008, 01:58 PM
This what my taxes go to?
FOXNews.com - Massachusetts High School Faces Pregnancy Boom - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369103,00.html)
The funny thing is that the NP wants to distribute birth control WITHOUT parental consent.
The problem is that some of these teenagers WANT TO GET PREGNANT, so will they really take birth control?
N0help4u
Jun 19, 2008, 02:01 PM
People say that welfare people get Earned income credit but when I was on welfare I was only eligible for EIC IF I had income from a job and it went according to how much I made at my job and not welfare.
Welfare was not included and I could not collect if I had no job income. I don't know if it has changed in the past few years but I do not think it has.
Many of these kids get bored with their kids and do pawn them off on their parents to raise.
Birth Control HAS been being given to our kids without our knowledge for quite a few years now
Schools even get the kids abortions without parents knowing they were ever pregnant.
bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jun 19, 2008, 02:13 PM
I remember walking in the mall and right in front of me were two girls about 13 or 14 and they both chanted 'Yea, I want to get pregnant!'. I wanted to turn them around, slap them silly and talk some sense into them. Maybe those young girls look up to Brittany Spear's little siter Jamie. She's a great example plus a movie star so of course her fans think whatever she does is okay.
I have never even had kids but know that having them young (as a teenager) takes away youth. I don't know ANYONE that would want to do that.
N0help4u
Jun 19, 2008, 02:20 PM
Where I live MANY girls are on their 3rd baby by the time they turn 18
It has been that way for at least the past 10 years.
They are obsessed with having a baby and then as I said they get bored and want their freedom so then the kids are raised by the babies grandparents.
Often they put father unknown on the birth certificate so that the dad doesn't have to pay support.
(often they don't even know who daddy is)
I call it the who'surdaddy generation.
progunr
Jun 19, 2008, 02:24 PM
Do you suppose that so many young girls would want to get pregnant, if they knew without a doubt, that NO ONE, would help them with these children.
No welfare, no WIC, no food stamps, no help, including the parents?
Granted, unplanned pregnancy is going to happen, no matter what we do.
I have to say that if the government programs were not in place to make it easy for them to handle raising a child or children on their own, they would think a lot harder about "WANTING" to be pregnant.
bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jun 19, 2008, 02:24 PM
Haha!!
Funny! I like that one!
bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jun 19, 2008, 02:25 PM
Do you suppose that so many young girls would want to get pregnant, if they knew without a doubt, that NO ONE, would help them with these children.
No welfare, no WIC, no food stamps, no help, including the parents?
Granted, unplanned pregnancy is going to happen, no matter what we do.
I have to say that if the government programs were not in place to make it easy for them to handle raising a child or children on their own, they would think a lot harder about "WANTING" to be pregnant.
Very good point.
happyprincess
Jun 19, 2008, 02:26 PM
I think this is just example of how our society is going to collapse form the inside out.I think that if this happening now , I can't wait to see the teens of 2020. It's bad enough that more babies are born out of wedlock, at alone teen purposely trying to have a baby.
Why are teens so immature in a era of information?
inthebox
Jun 19, 2008, 02:26 PM
Exactly , the boys / sperm donors won't step up and act like men / fathers.
With medicaid, wic, hud, what does a single teenage mother need a man for? Why would she marry the father or marry at all if she loses these benefits?
All you have to do is look at the census bureau statistics on poverty to know that the best way to avoid it is
Education
Not becoming a parent till > 20 and
Marriage
But the appeal in modern culture / media is to hormones, emotions, instant gratification, irresponsibility NOT
Personal responsibility or intellectual achievement.
progunr
Jun 19, 2008, 02:29 PM
Exactly , the boys / sperm donors won't step up and act like men / fathers.
With medicaid, wic, hud, what does a single teenage mother need a man for? Why would she marry the father or marry at all if she loses these benefits?
All you have to do is look at the census bureau statistics on poverty to know that the best way to avoid it is
education
not becoming a parent till > 20 and
marriage
but the appeal in modern culture / media is to hormones, emotions, instant gratification, irresponsibility NOT
personal responsibility or intellectual achievement.
Yep!!
Personal Responsibility.
That is the first and most important thing that gets thrown out the window under a Socialistic/Communistic form of government.
Do not worry about taking care of yourself, your government has that under control.
N0help4u
Jun 19, 2008, 02:29 PM
Prog I agree 100% that we make it too easy in many ways
Sex education that doesn't cover the reality of raising a baby, Hollywood glamorizing it,
Government hand out programs,
I still think some would still be obsessed with wanting a baby
Just like back in the day when we watched the shows where the hero always won and
We had a feeling of being invincible, these teens think they can handle having a baby without any problems.
BUT they need to do something because it is out of control
progunr
Jun 19, 2008, 02:37 PM
Got to add this thought.
Do you realize that the people who get all these benefits, actually BELIEVE that the money comes from the government!
Seriously, that is why they don't understand why anyone should be upset that "the government" is giving them money, why should anyone else be concerned about that, after all, the government has plenty of money, why shouldn't they get some of it?
I started working at 14, in the 37 years since then, I have yet to receive a single thank you card from any of these babies mommas, for helping them support their children.
Has anyone else gotten any thank you cards?
N0help4u
Jun 19, 2008, 02:51 PM
Sadly what really gets me too is that most of them have a you owe me attitude
They will knock at my door and in a demanding way say TAKE ME TO THE STORE like I am their mother
And I don't even know them other than that they are the single mom down the street.
Many of them are soooo wasteful too, like somebody gives them clothes and then the kid outgrows them and rather than giving them to somebody else they throw them away.
They sell their food stamps for drugs and then use their cute kids to make others feel sorry for them and feed them.
They order cable and get Rent a Center big screen TV that they can not afford and then their utilities get shut off and the Rent a Center is taking back what they delivered a couple months ago. Then they have to go to energy crisis and have them turn the utilities back on.
progunr
Jun 19, 2008, 02:56 PM
So very true!
It's hard to blame them though, if you don't have to earn what you get, why should you take any pride in having it, or care too much if you loose it.
The socialistic policies take away every chance an individual has at ever having any pride or dignity, or sense of self worth.
Why can't the liberals see this?
BABRAM
Jun 19, 2008, 08:24 PM
i think this is just example of how our society is going to collapse form the inside out.I think that if this happening now , I can't wait to see the teens of 2020. It's bad enough that more babies are born out of wedlock, at alone teen purposely trying to have a baby.
Why are teens so immature in a era of information?
It's been happening for the past fifty years plus, it just more in the open today. Dr. Laura Schlessinger addresses the individual failed responsibilities, immaturity and the society aspect, in several of her books.
tomder55
Jun 20, 2008, 04:18 AM
Role models
Britney Spear's sister Jamie Lynn Spears has healthy baby girl - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2160758/Britney-Spear's-sister-Jamie-Lynn-Spears-has-healthy-baby-girl.html)
"Juno" Wins Top Spirit Award, Comedy Named Best Feature, Star Ellen Page Best Actress - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/23/entertainment/main3868821.shtml)
NeedKarma
Jun 20, 2008, 04:54 AM
role models
Britney Spear's sister Jamie Lynn Spears has healthy baby girl - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2160758/Britney-Spear%27s-sister-Jamie-Lynn-Spears-has-healthy-baby-girl.html)
"Juno" Wins Top Spirit Award, Comedy Named Best Feature, Star Ellen Page Best Actress - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/23/entertainment/main3868821.shtml)American girls must be really stupid if they base their behaviour on movies. Did the success of The Graduate start a generation of young men/older women sexual relationships? LOL!
NeedKarma
Jun 20, 2008, 04:58 AM
Here is another article about it:
Pregnancy Boom at Gloucester High - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1815845,00.html)
"They're so excited to finally have someone to love them unconditionally,
And Digg's discussion of it:
Digg - Dozens of high school girls make pact to get pregnant (http://digg.com/people/Dozens_of_high_school_girls_make_pact_to_get_pregn ant)
It has nothing to do with the system but more to do with sh*tty, neglectful parenting. Parents too busy chasing the almighty dollar usually.
bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jun 20, 2008, 05:56 AM
role models
Britney Spear's sister Jamie Lynn Spears has healthy baby girl - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2160758/Britney-Spear's-sister-Jamie-Lynn-Spears-has-healthy-baby-girl.html)
"Juno" Wins Top Spirit Award, Comedy Named Best Feature, Star Ellen Page Best Actress - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/23/entertainment/main3868821.shtml)
In the movie 'Juno' pregnancy is portrayed as something that could be shrugged off. A no-big-deal. Let's have un-protected sex and if I get pregnant, it's okay, some loveing couple will want to adopt my baby...
... NOT!
I hate hollwood for that. Maybe in the glamorized life of a celebrity it wouldn't be hard at all to have a child and actually support it with their millions of dollars. Unlike them, 'lower-class' citizens don't have the dough to invest 1 million dollars into a nursery. Golly, if I had a million dollars... the possibilities.
Does hollywood think that teenage pregnancies are that easy?
Lets make a movie about middle to lower class teenage girls getting pregnant and trying to survive. That's real life.
bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jun 20, 2008, 05:58 AM
American girls must be really stupid if they base their behaviour on movies. Did the success of The Graduate start a generation of young men/older women sexual relationships? LOL!
I loved that movie!
I'm sure that there are young men/older women sexual relationships going around (infact we hear it every so often) but it isn't an epidemic.
NeedKarma
Jun 20, 2008, 05:59 AM
Movies don't influence people as much as you think they do. Did Trainspotting reduce the number of heroin users? I don't think it did.
bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
Jun 20, 2008, 06:02 AM
Movies don't influence people as much as you think they do. Did Trainspotting reduce the number of heroin users? I don't think it did.
Also liked that movie as well...
It was really freaky.
There are still heroin users unfortunately.
There is a fine line between hollywood and reality.
Synnen
Jun 20, 2008, 06:40 AM
i think this is just example of how our society is going to collapse form the inside out.I think that if this happening now , I can't wait to see the teens of 2020. It's bad enough that more babies are born out of wedlock, at alone teen purposely trying to have a baby.
Why are teens so immature in a era of information?
Because their parents don't hold them to any sense of personal responsibility--and part of THAT is because society (and even the kids themselves!) will call CPS if a parent tries to discipline a child.
I've been advocating the idea that in order to get Welfare, you must have a job and a high school diploma or GED for years.