We are opening a bar and there is no drainage at the bar itself. We need to be able to drain an ice bin. We are going to tie into the drain in the kitchen that is 80 ft away. There will have to be two 90 degree turns on the way there. Is this possible?

You will need at least 20" of fall (1/4 " per foot ) The 90 degree bends are problematic as the curve must be wide enough to allow a snake to pass through easily, but I think you can do it. You are draining water from the ice bin to a floor catch basin in the kitchen ? If you install a trap at the ice bin, the only problem is that you still need to have a vent pipe.

Hey Mcdermott:

It certainly is possible....

As stated by westnlas... need at least 20" of pitch to the pipe.

The 90s will need to be LONG SWEEP 90s if you can fit them in the wall (can also connect a street 45 degree fitting into a regular 45 degree fitting to make a long sweep 90).

And how are you planning to VENT this sink.. You must have some kind of vent... either an individual 1.5" vent at the bar sink to an upstairs vent in bathroom or attic or a mechanical vent under the bar sink (see pictures... they are available at all home supply stores).

Mechanical vents may not be allowed in your area so you should check with local plumbing inspector to see if they can be used.

I would also install a 1.5" dandy clean out (see pic.) 1) under bar sink, 2) at every 25 foot distance, and 3) under the kitchen sink. If the 2 90s are installed near each other or together I would also install a cleanout at this point, too!

I would also prefer to see you drop this bar sink drain below the kitchen and into the basement to connect the drain if possible... but sounds like a SLAB home with no basement..?

Further, if this is only for bar sink you may want to consider a bar sink pump (or also called a laundry tray pump... see pic.) such as one made by zoeller (click on link: http://search.aol.com/aol/imageDetails?invocationType=imageDetails&query=laundry+tray+pump&img=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.nextag.com%2Fimage%2FZoeller-105-Drain-Pump%2F1%2F000%2F000%2F631%2F132%2F63113285.jpg&site=&host=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nextag.com%2Fwet-bar-sink-pump%2Fsearch-html&width=82&height=82&thumbUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages-partners-tbn.google.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AXvk-_xX_pNrQIM%3Aimg.nextag.com%2Fimage%2FZoeller-105-Drain-Pump%2F1%2F000%2F000%2F631%2F132%2F63113285.jpg&b=image%3FinvocationType%3Daolcomimage%26query%3Dl aundry%2520tray%2520pump). Here, can discharge into small pit which then has pump to pump water/beverages, etc. UP to a CLOSER waste line... if one is closer, but just too high up to connect into normally! Just another thought is all!

And FINALLY! You may also want to consider an INSTANT HOT WATER dispenser (see pic.) to be installed directly under the bar sink... will save having to run hot water pipe over to sink and will save money by you not having to wait for hot water to arrive every time you want it!

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There you go...let us know what you think or if you have any more questions...

MARK

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