Is masturbation a sin? My mom found out I have a vibrator and gave me a speech about it being a sin. Ive read the story in the bible abut the guy God killed for spilling his seed but all I got from that was he got killed because he disobeyed God and him spilling his seed was pretty much saying f u God. I mean if God didn't want us to do it why didn't he make our bodies where we could only get pleasure from another human and not from ourselves

What do you guys think?

Oh yeah I'm single and unmarried and I get the urge just like everyone else but I'm trying to wait until I'm in a committed relationship(guys call me a prude lol)

I think that you should never "Kiss and tell". Even if there is no one else involved. I think that your private actions should stay private, period. Biblically, you cannot take the word of today's bible as the word of God. The Bible has been written so many times and embellished each time by a church for political reasons. In fact Mary Magdaline was first portrayed as a prostitute in 800bc by Pope Gregory. There is an order of sisters who research every know edition of the Bible and monitor the changes that were made. Once in history the Catholic church needed to increase the birth rate of its followers in order to have enough soldiers to fight the Protestants and Muslims. Also for added revenue.

No it's not a sin. Tell no one of anything sexual except you doctor. Keep people from going through your personal items.

....I mean if God didnt want us to do it why didnt he make our bodies where we could only get pleasure from another human and not from ourselves. What do you guys think?

Dear TwinkletOes26

Well, yes, uuuuhhhh, when you take the Bible literally...

It all comes down to : is the Bible really Gods own instruction to humanity, or is it a collection of well intended books that - taken together - guide people through life ?

Your question could be answered better on another board , as for instance "other religion".
Here on the Christianity board I assume your only guide is the Bible and lot's of belief...

:rolleyes:

From what I've read, it is a sin to spill your seed. But as you're a woman you can't. :P
In all honesty I haven't read enough to have a very valuable opinion.
But Westnlas has a point. Although a lot of people might think it's overly convenient and inappropriate to pick which parts of the bible to take literally, it HAS been reinterpreted quite a number of times. And prior to that, it was only written by men. And prophets or not, they're perfectly capable of human error.
So I guess it comes down to the overall message. What do you think is important? Do you feel that it's a sin?
The main reason people might see masturbation as sinful is because it's giving into pleasure that was intended for a specific purpose. But... well, in my opinion, these people are taking it too far.

In my opinion, the only evils in the world are those that harm others. This one doesn't. Go nuts!

Kal

Kalfour hit it right on the head!! If one doesn't harm anyone else, what sin could there be ? I know this can be carried over into other areas such as drug use, etc. However many of those actions do harm others even if not intended. Certainly masturbation is such a private thing that harms no one, except the feelings of your mother in this case. I think her beliefs are hers and she is entitled, we just don't happen to agree.

The thing is She's the one with a conviction about masturbation I don't see what the big deal is... but then again she is crazy(read y knife wieldin mama post) and a MAJOR prude (she thinks oral sex with her husband is bad)

I grew up in an evangelical Christian home where masturbation and oral sex were considered sinful, but have disavowed myself of that notion, i.e. grown in grace. As long as those two practices don't harm you or anyone else and aren't done to excess (and that includes eating, drinking alcohol, jogging, talking on the phone, etc. -- where mental/physical harm to self or others can occur), there is no reason why they cannot be done. The OT (rules and regs) has been superceded by the NT (agape).

I don't it's a sin. I mean doing it execivly is probably not agood idea. But I see no reason why it would be a sin. I suggest you do some reserch into it, read your bible tell me what you find.

Why is my mom surprised that her 26 yr old daughter has sexual urges I'm a human being am I not..?

No it's not a sin. Tell no one of anything sexual except you doctor. Keep people from going through your personal items.[/QUOTE]

I hid my vibrator in the bottom of my drawer but when I go out with friends I think her way of getting back at me for having fun is to rumage through my things. I inform her that she is being rude and she responds "its her house" she even opens my mail when I'm not there she's lucky I don't call the cops

she even opens my mail when im not there shes lucky i dont call the cops

I may be wrong, but I think opening someone else's mail is actually a federal offense. My husband does not open mine, not I his.

sounds like it is time for some grown adult women to move out??
And/or put her own locks on her own bedroom door ( that I would also say she should be paying rent for) And I would get my mail at a mail box, one of those UPS stores or other mail box store.

With knowing I will go against some denomination teachings, it is not a sin unless it becomes an problem, addiction. We get that more here with men, esp where ti can lead to funtional problems latter. But to be honest at 26 I would be much more concerned about you if you did not.

[QUOTE=Fr_Chuck]sounds like it is time for some grown adult women to move out??
And/or put her own locks on her own bedroom door ( that I would also say she should be paying rent for) And I would get my mail at a mail box, one of those UPS stores or other mail box store.

I would move(or pay rent) but I have no car ,live in the rural south with no access to public transportation, and since my mom won't let me drive her car without her in it I have to job hunt around my mamas schedule(so if she's "too angry with my stepdad" or "too tired from staying up untl 3 on the computer" she won't take me job hunting)

If I got a mail box the post office is 10 min away from my house(like I said we live in the country) and shed have to drive me to it (which would be whenever she "felt" like it). There is a lock on my door but SHE has all the room keys and refuses to relinquish any of them to me or my stepdad(shes VERY controlling).

All my friends live 2 or 3 hours away and they are trying to find jobs themselves and live with their parents as well(one of my friends has a 10 pm curfew and she's 24)
But I'm putting my resume together for the online job fair in my state so wish me luck.

My mom has always been like this... do you know I didn't get my official drivers license until I was 18 because she wanted me to get driving lessons which is fine BUT she for 2 yrs would have me set up times to take the lessons then she would refuse to take me to them. All throughout my teen years when I would be in my room looking for my shoes and she would swear I was looking for something I had hidden(ie drugs condoms etc and no I didn't have any of these things) so she would always be in my room rumaging through my things looking for things that were not there. I once went to the movies with HER friend's daughters(only because her friend begged her to let me go out with her daughters to the movies) while I was gone she overturned my mattress looking for drugs because why else would I want to get out of the house. Not because I never got t go anywhere but I went to the movies because I was "looking fo drugs":rolleyes:

Sounds like time to move to even a women's shelter, since to be honest this is sounding more like a unhealthy control.

I agree with FrChuck. Call a shelter hotline and get out of there. They'll send someone to pick you up.

Is masturbation a sin?

Yes.


My mom found out i have a vibrator and gave me a speech about it being a sin. Ive read the story in the bible abut the guy God killed for spilling his seed but all i got from that was he got killed because he disobeyed God and him spilling his seed was pretty much saying f u God. I mean if God didn't want us to do it why didn't he make our bodies where we could only get pleasure from another human and not from ourselves

What do you guys think?

The Bible says that the Church is the Pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15). Therefore as a Catholic, I rely on Church teaching on the matter of sin.

The Church teaches that any sexual behaviour outside of holy matrimony is a sin because it does not leave open the possibility of conceiving life. We believe that sexual activity is so important that it is set aside for only people who have sworn to be faithful to each other and to God.


oh yeah I'm single and unmarried and i get the urge just like everyone else but I'm trying to wait until I'm in a committed relationship(guys call me a prude lol)

That is wonderful!

Sincerely,

De Maria

The Church teaches that any sexual behaviour outside of holy matrimony is a sin because it does not leave open the possibility of conceiving life.

So post-menopausal women cannot have sex? Couples deemed infertile cannot have sex?

The Bible says that the Church is the Pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15). Therefore as a Catholic, I rely on Church teaching on the matter of sin.

The Church teaches that any sexual behaviour outside of holy matrimony is a sin because it does not leave open the possibility of conceiving life. We believe that sexual activity is so important that it is set aside for only people who have sworn to be faithful to each other and to God.

but I'm not catholic I'm a methodist

my mom is southern baptist lol

I agree with FrChuck. Call a shelter hotline and get out of there. They'll send someone to pick you up.

I called all the shelters I found in my state (they were all in the city nearest to me that are 4 hours away) and they all said I lived too far away to come get me... all my friends are too afraid of my mama (crazy gets you a badd reputation) to even come near the yard (shes threaatened to shoot a couple of my friends) my boyfriend well ex now(my moms only allowing one date a week and 12 curfew rule got to be too much this is the millionth time that has happened) def isn't coming on my property :( .

So post-menopausal women cannot have sex? Couples deemed infertile cannot have sex?

If this was true, then Sarah would have never been permitted or ordained to bare Isaac..

So is sexual acts a sin? Not unless you are hurting someone directly in your actions. The word says that it is unclean to spill the seed... Yet it does not say repent... God tells us to wash... Whether the spill is on something, or on the person, the order of command is wash.

Perhaps a child's mind would understand this better..

So post-menopausal women cannot have sex? Couples deemed infertile cannot have sex?

Did I say that?

There have been cases of women who have been post menopausal for 40 years who have conceived. And many couples deemed infertile have had children.

The marital embrace, sexual intercourse, is a physical renewal of our vows of love which we proclaim in our marriage ceremony. This physical union is an exchange of life giving love between husband and wife. That is why, in the Catholic Church, sex is between husband and wife and it must be open to life.

but im not catholic im a methodist

my mom is southern baptist lol

That is why I was careful to clarify my background. I know that there are different interpretations out there.

I don't believe that God intended sex solely for bringing children into the world. He wants us to engage in sex with our spouse to bond and nurture the relationship. God wants sex to be pleasurable and to be fun and I think he's OK with using birth control. Why do you think there are so many emotional feelings you feel when you're done having sex, because it's an emotional and spiritual connection that God allows us to have with our spouse..

As for Twinklets post. No I don't think it's a sin to masterbate.. you're a healthy 26 year old and you're not engaging in permiscious sex with strangers.. you're Mom is psycho.. sorry to say that.. but maybe she is bipolar or something.. all I have to say is I feel bad for you.. pay someone to drive you to the shelter.. do anything you can to get out! She likes the control she has on you.. and you can't let her have it anymore.

The Church teaches that any sexual behaviour outside of holy matrimony is a sin because it does not leave open the possibility of conceiving life. We believe that sexual activity is so important that it is set aside for only people who have sworn to be faithful to each other and to God.
Indeed the RCC does. But the Bible doesn't mention anything that supports that view. Nor does the Bible mention vibrators and their applications, which may be because dry cells still had to be invented at that time !

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The Church teaches that any sexual behaviour outside of holy matrimony is a sin because it does not leave open the possibility of conceiving life. We believe that sexual activity is so important that it is set aside for only people who have sworn to be faithful to each other and to God.

I trust this would be Does leave open the possibility.


Indeed the RCC does. But the Bible doesn't mention anything that supports that view. Nor does the Bible mention vibrators and their applications, which may be due to the fact that dry cells still had to be invented at that time !



"I am not Cathotic"
I trust anyone should be causioned when participating in sexual behaviour for the same reason the RCC enforced their guidelines, in the protection against people hurting one anothers.. . Needless to say, those that are taken advantage of in the result should a child be conceived outside of holy matrimony, can indeed hurt both persons, and the child. And this would indeed be God's written word and commandment which is supporting the viewpoint made by De Maria . (this is not the topic)

The topic of discussion:
Sexual action with one's self, in my opinion God knew the urge and desire would be as it is.. God created us, and God instituted the necessary cleaning and said to wash. .

God gave us the choice to obey him or not. That is mentioned in the very first book of the bible, where adam and eve were given the choice to obey Him or not. The sin leads to consequences.

So what is the consequence of occasional masturbation?

The consequence is her mother's punishment but may vary among different people. Don't forget that God forgives if a proper 'apologize' is given and efforts to never do that sin again.

The OP is a woman and she's 26 i.e.. An adult.

Ok. Sory sory sory. It's a she, I'll change that. LOL was an error

The bible doesn't actually directly say that masturbation is a sin. But the bible does say that sexual fantasies are forbidden. And a sexual fantasy is significantly linked to masturbation, it says so in Matt 5:28-29 Giv.

But the bible does say that sexual fantasies are forbidden.
Where does it say that?

The bible doesn't actually directly say that masturbation is a sin. But the bible does say that sexual fantasies are forbidden. And a sexual fantasy is significantly linked to masturbation, it says so in Matt 5:28-29 Giv.

Matthew 5:28-29 Is directly speaking of adultery, that is the sin. Which I will add, does hurt another, which also is a sin. Sexual desire is not a sin..

Subject introduced: Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

KJV Matthew 5-58-29 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.

In other words, if you even think of taking what is your neighbor's or hurting, harming, or causing trouble unto another person with your actions. You will be hurting yourself for it is a sin punishable in hell.

Note: Masturbation refers to sexual stimulation, especially of one's own genitals. And animal masturbation has been observed in many species, both in the wild and in captivity

my mom is an uptight prude... she thinks that it's a sin to wear a thong.

That's one of the problems living with your family. Lack of privacy. I have a grown son, single man living with us. He's 33, good job, etc. He pays rent to my wife every 2 weeks on his payday. He helps with the cleaning and repairs that are hard for us to do. I would never invade his privacy. If I saw something that was private, I certainly would never comment on it. I think your mother has a hard time with the fact that you are an adult and should get the same respect any other adult in the home is afforded. I wish you well,

Bandit

Quote:I trust this would be Does leave open the possibility.

Sorry about that. I can see where that answer was confusing. I guess I was referring to masturbation. It is considered sinful, along with contraceptive sex, because it does not leave open the possibility of life.

Sex outside of marriage is sinful because it is against the will of God.


"I am not Cathotic"
I trust anyone should be causioned when participating in sexual behaviour for the same reason the RCC enforced their guidelines, in the protection against people hurting one anothers.. . Needless to say, those that are taken advantage of in the result should a child be conceived outside of holy matrimony, can indeed hurt both persons, and the child. And this would indeed be God's written word and commandment which is supporting the viewpoint made by De Maria . (this is not the topic)

Ok.

[/quote]The topic of discussion:
Sexual action with one's self, in my opinion God knew the urge and desire would be as it is.. God created us, and God instituted the necessary cleaning and said to wash. . [/QUOTE]

I hope I have explained my Catholic perspective adequately above. To summarise, according to Catholic teaching, it is wrong because it is sex outside of marriage and because it is not open to life.

Sincerely,

De Maria

I guess I was referring to masturbation. It is considered sinful, along with contraceptive sex, because it does not leave open the possibility of life.

Sex outside of marriage is sinful because it is against the will of God.


The verse in Hebrews 13:4 says that marriage is honourable in all, and the undefiled bed. But what will be judged is the soil bed, meaning sexual intercourse whether lawful or unlawful defiled and soiled. And the whoremongers meaning a man who prostitutes his body, and the adulterers... So lawful would be married, but could that include premarital sex to a couple that would be getting married. I don't think we can judge this ourselves.. Yet casual sex would be unlawful, as the soiled bed. That would be my opinion.

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

The topic of discussion : Is masturbation a sin?
Sexual action with one's self, in my opinion God knew the urge and desire would be as it is.. God created us, and God instituted the necessary cleaning and said to wash. Also again it is known that animals have been seen during masturbation.


I hope I have explained my Catholic perspective adequately above. To summarise, according to Catholic teaching, it is wrong because it is sex outside of marriage and because it is not open to life.
Sincerely, De Maria

Yes you have explained it well, and shown that it is the church law that you will follow. It is my opinion, masturbation has not been instituted as God's Law, that would or could be judge in any way as being a soiled bed. And too, I do not believe God has counterdicted His teachings on the spilling of seed (masturbation), and the necessary washing to clean the unclean.

~In Christ... Mark 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

Here are a few paragraphs from the CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH that helps give light to understanding the sin of masturbation.

2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action. The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose. For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved.
To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety, or other psychological or social factors that lessen or even extenuate moral culpability.

2519 The "pure in heart" are promised that they will see God face to face and be like him. Purity of heart is the precondition of the vision of God. Even now it enables us to see according to God, to accept others as "neighbors"; it lets us perceive the human body - ours and our neighbor's - as a temple of the Holy Spirit, a manifestation of divine beauty.

What about those Christians who are not Catholic?

Here are a few paragraphs from the CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH that helps give light to understanding the sin of masturbation..

Please understand I will respect the Catholic Church for their Love in Christ. But I do not worship the church, I worship God. The church can set forth their laws, and God would say to do as your authority tells you to do. But the Catholic church is not my authority.. Christ Jesus is my authority. Man made traditions and laws should be veiwed carefully not to hurt those they have pressed them onto. We should all obey and not judge others. And we should obey and love one another.



2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes. .

There are 9 different meaning of the word lust in the Word of God. How does one isolate their teaching to just one meaning? Romans 1:27 [3715] Romans 7:7 [1939] 1 Cr 10:6 [2556] 1 Th 4:5 [3806 Mat 5:28 [1937] Pro 6:25 [02530] Psa 78:30 [03878] Psa 78:18 [05315]

KJV 1 John 2:15 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world




2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action. The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose. For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved.
To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety, or other psychological or social factors that lessen or even extenuate moral culpability..

The pastoral action will be that which is set by the Catholic Church. No referance of scripture that clearly could voice the Truth as God has stated in the scriptures concerning the washing of spilled seed... Do You somehow think God didn't say enough?



2519 The "pure in heart" are promised that they will see God face to face and be like him. Purity of heart is the precondition of the vision of God. Even now it enables us to see according to God, to accept others as "neighbors"; it lets us perceive the human body - ours and our neighbor's - as a temple of the Holy Spirit, a manifestation of divine beauty.


KJV Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

KJV 1 Peter1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently.

Obey the truth through the Holy Spirit in unfeigned love meaning sincere love of "God Truth" in Love for one another.

~In Christ

Please understand I will respect the Catholic Church for their Love in Christ. But I do not worship the church, I worship God. The church can set forth their laws, and God would say to do as your authority tells you to do. But the Catholic church is not my authority.. Christ Jesus is my authority. Man made traditions and laws should be veiwed carefully not to hurt those they have pressed them onto. We should all obey and not judge others. And we should obey and love one another.



There are 9 different meaning of the word lust in the Word of God. How does one isolate their teaching to just one meaning? Romans 1:27 [3715] Romans 7:7 [1939] 1 Cr 10:6 [2556] 1 Th 4:5 [3806 Mat 5:28 [1937] Pro 6:25 [02530] Psa 78:30 [03878] Psa 78:18 [05315]

KJV 1 John 2:15 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world




The pastoral action will be that which is set by the Catholic Church. No referance of scripture that clearly could voice the Truth as God has stated in the scriptures concerning the washing of spilled seed... Do You somehow think God didn't say enough?




KJV Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

KJV 1 Peter1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently.

Obey the truth through the Holy Spirit in unfeigned love meaning sincere love of "God Truth" in Love for one another.

~In Christ

I enjoy reading your responses. I think your answers are forceful yet polite and thought provoking. Perhaps when I return from my sojourn, God willing in about a week, we can enter into a discussion/debate on what is the authority which God instituted for us to follow.

Sincerely,

De Maria

I enjoy reading your responses. I think your answers are forceful yet polite and thought provoking. Perhaps when I return from my sojourn, God willing in about a week, we can enter into a discussion/debate on what is the authority which God instituted for us to follow.

Sincerely,

De Maria

That would be a good discussion and teaching when kept to the scriptures. Still remembering that when such discussion are done, there are conflicting points of scripture that are taught within the churches. Such as the beginning with Adam and Eve eating an apple.. Such an important teaching as this attempt by satan to change the out come of Christ's birth, that is hidden behind a bite from a apple or a forbidden tree.. The Bible is not so much about us, as [it is] about Christ..

That would be a good discussion and teaching when kept to the scriptures. Such as the beginning with Adam and Eve eating an apple. The Bible is not so much about us, as [it is] about Christ..

We don't know if it was an apple. The Bible doesn't say. Like you said, let's keep to the Scriptures.

The Bible is very much about us, from all the stories in the OT to what Jesus did for us in the NT!

Please understand I will respect the Catholic Church for their Love in Christ. But I do not worship the church, I worship God. The church can set forth their laws, and God would say to do as your authority tells you to do. But the Catholic church is not my authority.. Christ Jesus is my authority. Man made traditions and laws should be veiwed carefully not to hurt those they have pressed them onto. We should all obey and not judge others. And we should obey and love one another.



There are 9 different meaning of the word lust in the Word of God. How does one isolate their teaching to just one meaning? Romans 1:27 [3715] Romans 7:7 [1939] 1 Cr 10:6 [2556] 1 Th 4:5 [3806 Mat 5:28 [1937] Pro 6:25 [02530] Psa 78:30 [03878] Psa 78:18 [05315]

KJV 1 John 2:15 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world




The pastoral action will be that which is set by the Catholic Church. No referance of scripture that clearly could voice the Truth as God has stated in the scriptures concerning the washing of spilled seed... Do You somehow think God didn't say enough?




KJV Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

KJV 1 Peter1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently.

Obey the truth through the Holy Spirit in unfeigned love meaning sincere love of "God Truth" in Love for one another.

~In Christ

I do not worship the Church either. I do recognize the authority that she has been given by Christ through the Apostles. For that reason I am Catholic. However, one does not need be Catholic to understand her teachings on morality.

We don't know if it was an apple. The Bible doesn't say. Like you said, let's keep to the Scriptures.


Wondergirl you are correct the scripture does not say apple, and that was why I exampled the teaching as I had. I am sorry if that was not clear in my reply to a discussion that was suggested for a future time.. Following the authority of The Word of God in my opinion is the answer to every question.. .



The Bible is very much about us, from all the stories in the OT to what Jesus did for us in the NT!

It would be mans pride that puts himself as the important subject.. My remark was that it is not as much about us... as it is about Christ.

I do not worship the Church either. I do recognize the authority that she has been given by Christ through the Apostles. For that reason I am Catholic. However, one does not need be Catholic to understand her teachings on morality.

I have offered nothing more then scripture verses for the authority and faith I hold in my heart. The Word Of God...

Romans 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way
Romans 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

It would be mans pride that puts himself as the important subject.. My remark was that it is not as much about us... as it is about Christ.

All the stories in the Bible are teaching stories -- about how people mess up and about how God shows his love and forgives them time after time after time. Finally, in the NT God sends His Son to give His life so that we no longer have to worry that God won't forgive us.

Of course, the Bible is about us and about how God loves us so much!

Of course, the Bible is about us and about how God loves us so much!

That He gave His only begotten Son to die for us... Christ Our Savior John 3:16

That He gave His only begotten Son to die for us... Christ Our Savior John 3:16

For US. Jesus wouldn't have had to die if mankind wouldn't have messed up. The Bible is all about how we mess up and how God rescues us. If it weren't for our sins, there would be no need for a Bible or a Jesus.

For US. Jesus wouldn't have had to die if mankind wouldn't have messed up. The Bible is all about how we mess up and how God rescues us. If it weren't for our sins, there would be no need for a Bible or a Jesus.

These words unlined that you have suggested should never be spoken... For Jesus is Emmanuel = God with us! Would you say there is no need for God? And the Bible is God's Word = Jesus..

I apologize for this is not the topic IS IT A SIN: but rather has become a debt on the written word. But I must insist on the Truth being known when someone questions the need for Christ...

WondergirlWe have failed to listen to God as it is written. But long before us, it was satan who first revolted against God, and 1/3 of the angels. These who were known as sons of God.

It was through Adam and Eve which the devil attempted to stop, by the deception done in the garden, was the key of David. ( The birth line of Jesus) That is why it is written in scripture Genesis 3:20 Eve is the mother of all living. For we would remain dead without Christ our Savior. The generations shown are the connection leading you to Christ's birth to the Virgin Mary. This is not about us, but about Jesus.

Don't be as those in old time who thought the temple that would fall and rise was a building.. It was Christ who dead and rose from the dead. God speaks in parables and His sheep hear His Word of Truth.

Eve was a target of satan's.. And Cain was the son of satan who was the first murderer and again wanted to kill the birth line of Christ which was Abel.. That is why God found favor in Abel. Genesis 3: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Thy head is satan.. his heel is Christ

Read the Word of God... ~In Chirst

These words unlined that you have suggested should never be spoken... For Jesus is Emmanuel = God with us!

Yes! US - and thank God that He still loved us enough to send His Son to suffer and die in our place. Like I had said, the Bible is full of stories of how mankind is its own worst enemy and yet how God loves and forgives. The Bible is the story of US as sinners and God's love for US even at our worst.


Would you say there is no need for God?
Read above. I can't imagine how you can even think this after everything I've written.


And the Bible is God's Word = Jesus
See above. Read Gen. 3:16. There would be no need for Jesus if there were no US as sinners.

See above. Read Gen. 3:16. There would be no need for Jesus if there were no US as sinners.

This is Genesis 3:16
KJV Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Better showing the meaning of Genesis 3:16 would be: KJV 1 Timothy 2:14-15 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Satan the enemy.. Jesus the Savior.. We will always need Jesus.. Emmanuel= God with us

No more discussion or debating off the subject will be added from me..

Satan the enemy.. Jesus the Savior..We will always need Jesus .. Emmanuel= God with us

Gee, that's exactly what I said.

It took the cunning of Satan to tempt the woman, but it took only the invitation of a woman to tempt the man.

As for the question originally asked, God gave us our sexual urges including masturbation. Just like anything else, it can be used for good or for ill.

Like a choice you mean? Just like the fruit in the eden garden. It was placed there so that Adam and Eve could choose to obey God or not...

Is masturbation a sin?

Levitcus 15:16 And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even.

If you can accept Word of Truth as easily as a child would... Matthew 18:3

Note: God created us and all the functions within. And in my opinion God took our health into consideration. Facts on old sperm might help your free will decision on this question.

You may be surprised to hear that the female has manufactures her
Lifelong quota of eggs before born (in some later point in embryogenesis). Around menarche, those eggs mature one by one, once a month, until menopause, when ovulation gradually subsides. The late-life eggs of a woman are indeed old eggs, and more prone to certain kinds of problems.

With sperms it is different. The male gonad is a sperm factory that only
Begins to work around puberty. Spermiogenesis is an active process
That is driven by (1) the amount of sperm that has been manufactured and
Stored in the seminal vesicles, and (2) the recency of ejaculation.
Ejaculation empties most of the sperm from the vesicles (it will
Vary with circumstances. The low levels of the vesicles and the cue from ejaculation sets spermiogenesis in motion. If there is no ejaculation for over a
Month, some of the old sperm are digested and some new sperm is
Manufactured, but in general, old ejaculate means old sperm. (Sperm
Can live in the vesicles for a few weeks, and in utero for about 8 days.)

So is new sperm healthier then old sperm? Yes

Thanks for the little info sndbay!

As I pointed out before. The bible was written and re-written several times and each author or church adaptation of a new version reflected the political and religious positions at the time. Original versions do not reflect Mary Magdaline as a Whore for instance. Each Pope, King, or group in power at the time desired people to be bound by teachings that benefited those power structures. Population enhancement greatly aided power structures by providing labor and military forces. Bibles were written reflecting the desire for power gained by controlling huge numbers of people through the church. Priests were required to remain unmarried as it was less of an economic burden than having the church provide for their families. Wealth and power quests that shaped modern religions are certainly the same motivators of leaders today. However, one certainly cannot call masturbation a sin any more than eating ice cream.

Oh yeah I'm single and unmarried and I get the urge just like everyone else but I'm trying to wait until I'm in a committed relationship(guys call me a prude lol)

That's great. I hope you mean marriage.

Would it be possible to slip out of the house and meet your friends somewhere safe? You do need to get out. What is step dad like? Would he help you? Or is he afraid of her too?

I hope things work out for you, I understand what you are going through to some point, my dad was the same way about dating, all my bfs were scared of him and I had to be home at a certain time, and then he would come out and wait for me to get out of the car. Like no good-night kiss. As if...

As for the Scripture, he wasn't killed for just "spilling his seed", read on, get the whole story.

As to your question... I really don't know. But it's no worse than going through someone's things even if it is 'their' house.